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#351 BloodSeeker1337
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[QUOTE="Pices"] Your point? You talked about good games and I gave you some of them, I didn't have to bring AAA. If you only care about AAA, then thats....being a loser, if you ask mePices

Good Games Are Suppose To Be AAA. If they're not; then it's only your opinion. And you're opinion is moot to me :D

No, good games are A and AA as well. Trolling again, come back when you know how to debate ;)

PC, 360, PS3 have Much Better Games Than Wii Though ;)
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#352 Pices
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]

Good Games Are Suppose To Be AAA. If they're not; then it's only your opinion. And you're opinion is moot to me :D

BloodSeeker1337

No, good games are A and AA as well. Trolling again, come back when you know how to debate ;)

PC, 360, PS3 have Much Better Games Than Wii Though ;)

Thats what you THINK and feel ;)

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#353 Phacet
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[QUOTE="Phacet"]

[QUOTE="Pices"] Those ratings are old. Fine, don't believe me ;) , I'm an adult and don't need to prove it. I think you're a spoiled kid. Sure, games like metroid and madworld are for kids? LOLPices

Metroid and madworld. bought by as many wiiners as Wii Generic right?

the fact games like that dont sell, despite being the best quality games on the console, only enforces my point. LOLOL next?

Metroid prime 3, cod waw, RE 4, RE UC , COD WAW etc. sold a million The others didn't sell well because of marketing. Come with a better argument you 12 year old kid

and 1 mill is not impressive for a console owned by 60million children. thats 59 million kids taht aren't old enuff to play adult games.

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#354 Pices
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[QUOTE="Phacet"]

[QUOTE="bf2nutta"][QUOTE="Phacet"]

Ur right! about the 360 users. They are only just a little bit above wiiLOL owners- They have barely any clue about games, especially the ones who buy the ARCADE version. But only slightly just ahead of wiiners.

I see your a wii girl, so i'll try not to talk about games much kk.

and as i said, wii owners can not afford a real console. unfortuantely, when mommy still buys your consoles, she looks at price tags and picks up the $2 store equivalent of a real console. Sad for u guys :'(

When you can buy your own console, ya know like when ya grow up and work n stuff, you pick the best one, not what mommy decides. By this time ones preferences develop into maturity, and shallow lifeless stick-figure cartoon games just dun hit teh spot anymores.

I think we found another one to be removed the Worlds gene pool......... not only are you being offensive... your elitist fan boy... how old are you 12, your Mummy and Daddy brought you a "real" console as an early Holiday present........... Your talking about Maturity lol you haven't really shown any in your post...

LOLOL now three wiiboys have tried to attack me using my own arguement. I know it's great, but if your gonna steal it at least use on someone else.

but since your all so curious -

my parents dont buy me stuff, they havent for years.

I have someone else to buy all my stuff. A woman i keep happy, but that's adult stuff so we won't go in detail kk.

Sorry but since a little 12 year old like you who got an hd console as a birthday present and judging from your immature comments, you're not mature
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#355 Pices
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[QUOTE="Phacet"]

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="Phacet"]

Metroid and madworld. bought by as many wiiners as Wii Generic right?

the fact games like that dont sell, despite being the best quality games on the console, only enforces my point. LOLOL next?

Metroid prime 3, cod waw, RE 4, RE UC , COD WAW etc. sold a million The others didn't sell well because of marketing. Come with a better argument you 12 year old kid

and 1 mill is not impressive for a console owned by 60million children. thats 59 million kids taht aren't old enuff to play adult games.

First of all, its 58 million wiis sold. And sorry, you don't have proof that ALL of them are kids
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#356 bf2nutta
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[QUOTE="bf2nutta"][QUOTE="Phacet"]

Ur right! about the 360 users. They are only just a little bit above wiiLOL owners- They have barely any clue about games, especially the ones who buy the ARCADE version. But only slightly just ahead of wiiners.

I see your a wii girl, so i'll try not to talk about games much kk.

and as i said, wii owners can not afford a real console. unfortuantely, when mommy still buys your consoles, she looks at price tags and picks up the $2 store equivalent of a real console. Sad for u guys :'(

When you can buy your own console, ya know like when ya grow up and work n stuff, you pick the best one, not what mommy decides. By this time ones preferences develop into maturity, and shallow lifeless stick-figure cartoon games just dun hit teh spot anymores.

Phacet

I think we found another one to be removed the Worlds gene pool......... not only are you being offensive... your elitist fan boy... how old are you 12, your Mummy and Daddy brought you a "real" console as an early Holiday present........... Your talking about Maturity lol you haven't really shown any in your post...

LOLOL now three wiiboys have tried to attack me using my own arguement. I know it's great, but if your gonna steal it at least use on someone else.

but since your all so curious -

my parents dont buy me stuff, they havent for years.

I have someone else to buy all my stuff. A woman i keep happy, but that's adult stuff so we won't go in detail kk.

Lol Wii-boy? so what your a Gigolo?
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#357 BloodSeeker1337
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[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"][QUOTE="Pices"] No, good games are A and AA as well. Trolling again, come back when you know how to debate ;)Pices

PC, 360, PS3 have Much Better Games Than Wii Though ;)

Thats what you THINK and feel ;)

It's all Preference ;)
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#358 Pices
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[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"][QUOTE="Pices"]

PC, 360, PS3 have Much Better Games Than Wii Though ;)BloodSeeker1337

Thats what you THINK and feel ;)

It's all Preference ;)

Yup
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#359 Phacet
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[QUOTE="Phacet"]

[QUOTE="Pices"] Metroid prime 3, cod waw, RE 4, RE UC , COD WAW etc. sold a million The others didn't sell well because of marketing. Come with a better argument you 12 year old kidPices

and 1 mill is not impressive for a console owned by 60million children. thats 59 million kids taht aren't old enuff to play adult games.

First of all, its 58 million wiis sold. And sorry, you don't have proof that ALL of them are kids

actually, I do have proof.

I will happily facsimile to you if required.

And other guy, no im not a gigolo.

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#360 BloodSeeker1337
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[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"][QUOTE="Pices"] I meant Wii games, which is pretty obvious that you didn't play because you're an ignorant fanboy ;)Pices
I Did play Wii Games

Uh..sure

Fine, don't believe me. I own a Wii and don't need to prove it. I don't have to give proof because you're inferior and don't matter to me at all. :P
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#361 bf2nutta
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="Phacet"]

and 1 mill is not impressive for a console owned by 60million children. thats 59 million kids taht aren't old enuff to play adult games.

Phacet

First of all, its 58 million wiis sold. And sorry, you don't have proof that ALL of them are kids

actually, I do have proof.

I will happily facsimile to you if required.

And other guy, no im not a gigolo.

u sure I'm not sure you know what a Gigolo is... you pleasure a women who pays with gifts/money?.. unless you just leech of your partner and you don't pay your way. Or does does a female relative by you your games and consoles
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#362 Pices
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"] I Did play Wii GamesBloodSeeker1337
Uh..sure

Fine, don't believe me. I own a Wii and don't need to prove it. I don't have to give proof because you're inferior and don't matter to me at all. :P

Wow, using my own words, typical response of a person who can't do one
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#363 Pices
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[QUOTE="Phacet"]

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="Phacet"]

and 1 mill is not impressive for a console owned by 60million children. thats 59 million kids taht aren't old enuff to play adult games.

First of all, its 58 million wiis sold. And sorry, you don't have proof that ALL of them are kids

actually, I do have proof.

I will happily facsimile to you if required.

And other guy, no im not a gigolo.

Please go ahead. I know the majority of Wii owners are casual gamers but that does not mean that there are no core ones
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#364 dkrustyklown
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/snip

...all these things are NOT present in the wii, making the console unable to comepete with its competitors.chopperdave447

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Keep sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the fact that the Wii is DOMINATING marketshare this generation.

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#365 BloodSeeker1337
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[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"][QUOTE="Pices"] Uh..surePices
Fine, don't believe me. I own a Wii and don't need to prove it. I don't have to give proof because you're inferior and don't matter to me at all. :P

Wow, using my own words, typical response of a person who can't do one

:lol: Your Funny :lol:
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#366 Pices
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"] Fine, don't believe me. I own a Wii and don't need to prove it. I don't have to give proof because you're inferior and don't matter to me at all. :PBloodSeeker1337
Wow, using my own words, typical response of a person who can't do one

:lol: Your Funny :lol:

Thanks ;)
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#367 BloodSeeker1337
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Honestly Speaking, Pokemon: Battle Revolution is only Wii game i like :P
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#368 Pices
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Honestly Speaking, Pokemon: Battle Revolution is only Wii game i like :PBloodSeeker1337
Well, thats your preference
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#369 BloodSeeker1337
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[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]Honestly Speaking, Pokemon: Battle Revolution is only Wii game i like :PPices
Well, thats your preference

Sure :)
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#370 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Hey Pices, let it be, no use arguing with this guy... there's a limit to how reasonable you are willing to be with someone who's clearly wasting your time away, laughing while he types out the next response to infuriate you.

To you Bloodseeker1337, and Phacet (somewhat), thanks a bunch. You ensured this thread would stay alive and at the front page, and that consequently, more people would be able to read the OP and hence find out via a WELL REASONED ARGUEMENT (something that you guys are clearly incapable of, but what the heck) why the Wii is a great console to have.

I can only hope, though, that they didn't read on several pages until YOU started posting. I doubt anybody can emerge unscathed from the experience. Heck, I feel as if my IQ's been lowered by a lot, simply by reading your posts.

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#371 Pices
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Hey Pices, let it be, no use arguing with this guy... there's a limit to how reasonable you are willing to be with someone who's clearly wasting your time away, laughing while he types out the next response to infuriate you.

To you Bloodseeker1337, and Phacet (somewhat), thanks a bunch. You ensured this thread would stay alive and at the front page, and that consequently, more people would be able to read the OP and hence find out via a WELL REASONED ARGUEMENT (something that you guys are clearly incapable of, but what the heck) why the Wii is a great console to have.

I can only hope, though, that they didn't read on several pages until YOU started posting. I doubt anybody can emerge unscathed from the experience. Heck, I feel as if my IQ's been lowered by a lot, simply by reading your posts.

Guess you're right, this'll give me a break
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#372 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]

Good Games Are Suppose To Be AAA. If they're not; then it's only your opinion. And you're opinion is moot to me :D

BloodSeeker1337

No, good games are A and AA as well. Trolling again, come back when you know how to debate ;)

PC, 360, PS3 have Much Better Games Than Wii Though ;)

Damn right it does.:)

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#373 jessesalinas
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i have to agree.the Wii is amazing. :) Now all i have to do is get Silent Hill and not leave my house until i beat the game. :P
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#374 mitu123
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I actually kinda liked Narc. It was unique and the settings were nice.

Pixel-Pirate

The shooting controls were awful, finicky targeting system, inconsistent A.I., repetitive music, a bit short for a sandbox game, some odd mission desing choices, bad graphics, awful final boss. It's bad IMO, but I can see why you would like it if you can handle those problems.

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#375 jessesalinas
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I actually kinda liked Narc. It was unique and the settings were nice.

mitu123

The shooting controls were awful, finicky targeting system, inconsistent A.I., repetitive music, a bit short for a sandbox game, some odd mission desing choices, bad graphics, awful final boss. It's bad IMO, but I can see why you would like it if you can handle those problems.

are you talking about NARC(1988 Arcade) or the ps2/xbox console update?

because NARC(Arcade) was absolutely amazing when it was released.i remember wasting hundreds of dollars playing that and Double Dragon.

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#376 Pixel-Pirate
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The last 4 or so pages of this thread are pretty face palm worthy.

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#377 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I actually kinda liked Narc. It was unique and the settings were nice.

jessesalinas

The shooting controls were awful, finicky targeting system, inconsistent A.I., repetitive music, a bit short for a sandbox game, some odd mission desing choices, bad graphics, awful final boss. It's bad IMO, but I can see why you would like it if you can handle those problems.

are you talking about NARC(1988 Arcade) or the ps2/xbox console update?

because NARC(Arcade) was absolutely amazing when it was released.i remember wasting hundreds of dollars playing that and Double Dragon.

I'm talking about the PS2/Xbox update, I loved the arcade game.
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#378 jessesalinas
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] The shooting controls were awful, finicky targeting system, inconsistent A.I., repetitive music, a bit short for a sandbox game, some odd mission desing choices, bad graphics, awful final boss. It's bad IMO, but I can see why you would like it if you can handle those problems.

are you talking about NARC(1988 Arcade) or the ps2/xbox console update?

because NARC(Arcade) was absolutely amazing when it was released.i remember wasting hundreds of dollars playing that and Double Dragon.

I'm talking about the PS2/Xbox update, I loved the arcade game.

ya i never played that so i'll take your word for it when you say its Horrible.
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#379 sonicthemegaman
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The last 4 or so pages of this thread are pretty face palm worthy.

Pixel-Pirate
You're telling me :P
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#380 Jamisonia
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The Wii is awesome in so many ways. That's why its so popular.

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The last 4 or so pages of this thread are pretty face palm worthy.

Pixel-Pirate
You gotta give em credit, though, they kept the topic alive ;)
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#382 dragonfly110
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I believe System Wars seems to have a special problem with the Wii. Their hatred for the system seems to transcend any dislike or indifference they might have for any of the other consoles, and the trouble is, I have no idea exactly why System Wars hates the Wii so much.

I've been here for over a year now, and in that period, I've picked up quite a few of the 'reasons' System Wars hates the Wii. I shall now attempt to demonstrate now not only all those reasons are invalid, but also the result of needless preconceived notions and prejudice:

1)THE WII DOES NOT HAVE GOOD GRAPHICS/DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH PROCESSING POWER/IS JUST A RESOUPED GAMECUBE:

This is absolutely incorrect, on all three counts. As I am assuming everybody here knows by now, the Wii is 2 times as powerful as the original Xbox, which, in turn was the most powerful system last generation. This not only lends the Wii with adequate processing power- surely we don't need the raw, supercomputer strength that the 360 and the PS3 bring to the table as a necessity, do we? I mean, we did have excellent looking games before the advent of the HD era as well, didn't we?- but also means that the Wii is capable of churning out beautiful visuals, if only developers would work on it. Cases in point: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Dead Space Extraction and Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles. While the graphics are certainly nowhere near as good as they are on the HD consoles, they certainly are more than good enough to go along with.

That many games do not look good can be attributed to two reasons: that most of the 'games' System Wars picks as examples are usually hastily put together minigame compilations or movie tie ins: the very definition of 'shovelware.' Using the worst title a system has as an example of what the system is capable of is certainly not a good idea now, is it?

2) THE WII DOES NOT HAVE GOOD GAMES/ITS LIBRARY IS ONLY SHOVELWARE

While this point becomes a bit harder to defend objectively, due to the subjective nature of opinions that enters the equation whenever statements pertaining to choice or taste in anything arise, I believe that the general misconception that the Wii has no good games to speak of, or very few to care about, should be immediately dispelled.

The Wii not only has a lot to offer to the 'core' gamer accustomed to mainstream titles, it also has the support of Nintendo's first party support- indisputably the best first party backing, which I am sure all cows and lemming will also agree to- with classic franchises like Zelda and Mario. To add to all that, the Wii has loads of niche titles, like Muramasa and Little King's Story, and it also has the Virtual COnsole and WiiWare, two online gaming services loaded to the brim with old school and addictive titles. In other words, every true hardcore gamer's wildest fantasy.

To add to the above mentioned, the Wii also has great party titles (Wii Play and Wii Sports Resort spring to mind) as well as a lot of 'alternative' games, like Wii Fit, which offer new ways of interaction and interfacing within the medium.

Playing the Wii is a scintillating experience, if only gamers would be willing to offer it the chance.

It is true, the Wii has a LOT of shovelware, mote than any platform should have, but it also has a great many excellent titles, if people would only bother to look.

3) THE WII IS KIDDY/NINTENDO IS KIDDY

This one is actually the worst of the tlo, because not only is it absolutely unfounded on any basis, it also smacks of ignorance, insecurity and narrow mindedness on the accuser's part.

The reason that is usually quoted for calling the Wii 'kiddy' is the presence of Nintendo games like Mario on the platform, which are always bright, with a colorful palette, and a quirky storyline. The perception is also rooted in the early '90's period, when Nintendo was reluctant to admit really 'mature' games on the platform.

Now, while Nintendo and their games may be 'kiddy-' I do not deny that, whatever it is supposed to mean- my question is, what does it matter? So what if we play a game with a ridiculous storyline, or a happy theme for once, instead of the usual dreary and depressing fare that modern games have now become? What does it even matter if the game is good? A game's fundamental premise is its gameplay, and as long as that is sound, it does not matter at all.

But for those who insist on having a mature game, well then, on the Wii, you are spoilt for choice. Great games like Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles, Dead Space Extraction, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, House of the Dead: Overkill, MadWorld, Manhunt 2, No More Heroes, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Reflex, The Godfather: Blackhand Edition and Call of Duty: World at War, to name a few, should really be enough 'mature experiences' to satiate anybody.

It's time we all learn to be a bit more broad minded, and a bit more willing to let go of our initial prejudices, if only to avoid stupid accusations like these.

4) THE WII IS DUMB BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE GOOD ONLINE

I accept unconditionally that the Wii's online leaves a lot to be desired (though Mario Kart Wii totally nailed it in that department). However, why does that imply that the console sucks? Or that a game sucks? Or that the game has no multiplayer modes to speak of?

Addressing the first two points (and the third, in part), I would like to say that great games and consoles existed even before online, if anybody cares to remember. Those that don't are most probably those who started gaming this generation, and so are unaware that games were usually better back then- the single player mode was longer, meatier and more fulfilling, instead of being rushed to accommodate an online mode that is usually the same in all games of the genre (primarily happens in shooters, where the online mode of one shooter game is equivalent to the online mode of all shooter games). The fact that the Wii games do not have an online mode, or that if they do, it isn't as good as the HD consoles', is a bummer, yes. But gamers would do well to acknowledge the Wii games' own strengths then- they're usually long, and have a fulfilling and compelling single player mode (instead of the single player mode lasting barely five hours. You all know which game I speak of).

As for the third, ALL Wii games still have excellent multiplayer. Don't forget, that it was Nintendo after all who introduced us all to meaningful multiplayer gaming in the first place. Wii games usually have an excellent local multiplayer component, and perhaps it would be the best for today's increasingly cynical and disillusioned society to actually take the time to spend some time (playing games) with their family and friends, as opposed to playing with some nameless person at the opposite end of the world.

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That's it, really. That's all I have to say, for the moment.

I do not for an instance believe that the Wii is perfect- in my opinion, no console is- however, I believe that it gets a lot of unwarranted and undeserved hate, here in System Wars, when the HD fanboys usually gang up on it? Why? Because it dared to do something different? Or because its leading in sales? As I've already explained above,most of the reasons cited for the Wii being a 'failure' as a system are invaild. You are, of course, free to your own personal opinion.

I don't think my post shall make much of a difference- but hey, at least I can try, and I can claim nowthat I've done my bit to reason with everybody.

Before I sign off, I'd like to state that I own all three consoles, and love them equally. It's just that, I can;t stand it when what is so obviously a wonderful console gets so much hate that usually stems from narrow minded prejudices.

Please chip in with your thoughts, I look forward to hearing your points of view.

EDIT: I edited this topic on 3rd December 2009 to correct some minor grammar errors, and to change the topic title.

charizard1605

1. In comparison to every single other console this gen yes the wii does have terrible graphics. ANd yes it is practicallyjsut a reworked gamcube, I was under the impression that it shared similar hardware to gamecube but just clocked at higher settings. (who knows, I may be wrong.

2. while its library is not ONLY shovelware, the shovelware to good game ratio on the wii si BY FAR much higher then it is on the other consoles, so truthfuly when shopping for wii games, yes shovelware is going bot be a LOT more common, however this is not only nintendos fault, this is more just due to the fact that the wqii is the best selling system this gen, the PS2 was also clogged with shovelware last gen.

3/ this one is based on opinion, I mean if you consider games like Mario Zelda and Mario Kart kiddy, then yes it is. If you dont, then no it isnt. Simple as that.

4. true that this is not the ONLY factor in determining whether or not a console is good, but this added in with all the other negatives of the wii sis what make fanboys say that it is not a good system.