The Wii is doing amazing.. yet so many of you try to MINIMIZE its success

I havent been on this site for very long, and it boggles my mind how critical most people are towards the Wii. I'd say that breaking sales records, having the GOTY, improving third party relations, successfully offering a new way to play, and winning the console war is pretty damn good for a console that many people completely disregarded as a shoe in for last place this gen.

I hear how people say its a bad console, a fad, it's going to ruin the industry ect, yet all of that to me just smacks of the bitter tears of fanboys of other consoles who cant come to terms with the Wii's dominance)

There's too much truth in this post for most to reply to.geniusshawnc

what exactly do you want people to respond about?

yea it is very succesful but what do you expect? everyone kissing the ground it lays on? people will always hate it, including me

just like how there will always be people hating the 360 and the ps3

The industry as a whole is doing it. On the bonus round they talk about the wii dominating, but that nobody cares and no matter what the wii will lose.

Whatever. That's like watching a race and then ignoring the winner so you can cagradulate the second place guy. Makes no sense.

The industry as a whole is doing it. On the bonus round they talk about the wii dominating, but that nobody cares and no matter what the wii will lose.

Whatever. That's like watching a race and then ignoring the winner so you can cagradulate the second place guy. Makes no sense.

goblaa

i tihnk everyone bashes the wii because of your sig

The industry as a whole is doing it. On the bonus round they talk about the wii dominating, but that nobody cares and no matter what the wii will lose.

Whatever. That's like watching a race and then ignoring the winner so you can cagradulate the second place guy. Makes no sense.

goblaa

I think that its looked down at so much, because as a gamer you have to give up alot to pick the Wii as your main console,

Graphics: visually games are not anywhere near what today's standards are set at

Online: Theres only a very small selection of games to play online with the Wii and theres no headset or HDD to increase online functions

Mulitplats: Developers are focusing most if all mulitplats on the 360/PS3/PC, while the Wii is getting almost none of these games, and multiplats are the most common types of games.

For giving all this up your only really getting motion controls which at this time has only been really successfull on a few games, and a overall poor library which at this time only has 10 AA and up games rated at GameRankings, while most other systems have 2 or 3 times that amount already.

yea it is very succesful but what do you expect? everyone kissing the ground it lays on? people will always hate it, including me

just like how there will always be people hating the 360 and the ps3

mr_w25

what he said. I dont know. I dont see any improvement from gamecube to wii. Its turn off when a new console barely outperformers the older 1.

It is funny Wii seems to lead the war now but still i dont feel that my Wii is the best or most fun console.aroxx_ab

Right now, no. But mid way through 2008 you'll change your mind.

A success full of garbage and random ass old people and others... Yes pretty amazing how those crazy asians addicted more people to a fad just like they did with pokemon... :|

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]It is funny Wii seems to lead the war now but still i dont feel that my Wii is the best or most fun console.ssj_ken

Right now, no. But mid way through 2008 you'll change your mind.

When what? 1 more worthwhile game comes out meanwhile the proper consoles and PC all have 15 worthwhile?

I think that its looked down at so much, because as a gamer you have to give up alot to pick the Wii as your main console,

Graphics: visually games are not anywhere near what today's standards are set at

Online: Theres only a very small selection of games to play online with the Wii and theres no headset or HDD to increase online functions

Mulitplats: Developers are focusing most if all mulitplats on the 360/PS3/PC, while the Wii is getting almost none of these games, and multiplats are the most common types of games.

For giving all this up your only really getting motion controls which at this time has only been really successfull on a few games, and a overall poor library which at this time only has 10 AA and up games rated at GameRankings, while most other systems have 2 or 3 times that amount already.

jet052006

None of which ultimately matter to REAL gamers, as market evidence shows. For one thing, graphics have reached a plateau. Are games really better today than they were back in 2001-2005 because you can see wrinkles in someone's face now? Even enhanced physics has done virtually nothing for current gen console games yet. You can argue that the physics in Crysis did advance the gameplay, but that's on the PC. That's on a machine with power that console gamers will not see until five to ten years from now.

As for online, since when did online suddenly become the gold standard that EVERY game must have? All online does is encourage devs to skimp on gameplay depth in favor of extraneous features that people pay attention to only because it's shoved down their throats.

Multiplats are there to siphon your money. People only make a big deal about them with the PS3 and 360 because those two systems are actually within striking distance of one another, but when the time comes that the Wii has double the marketshare of the PS3 and 360, no one will care about multiplats the same way no one cared about the PS2 getting or not getting multiplats.

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[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]It is funny Wii seems to lead the war now but still i dont feel that my Wii is the best or most fun console.D3monchicken

Right now, no. But mid way through 2008 you'll change your mind.

When what? 1 more worthwhile game comes out meanwhile the proper consoles and PC all have 15 worthwhile?

Proper consoles...wtf, I'm not even gonna comment on this? 15 worthwhile games? What you mean the same old generic bs FPS we see every month?

I havent been on this site for very long, and it boggles my mind how critical most people are towards the Wii. I'd say that breaking sales records, having the GOTY, improving third party relations, successfully offering a new way to play, and winning the console war is pretty damn good for a console that many people completely disregarded as a shoe in for last place this gen.

I hear how people say its a bad console, a fad, it's going to ruin the industry ect, yet all of that to me just smacks of the bitter tears of fanboys of other consoles who cant come to terms with the Wii's dominance)

geniusshawnc

Wii is a joke for me, i have bought one, and never touched a single other game than Zelda TP, the horrible graphics and silly games just prevent me so far, i will probably buy Fire Emblem too, that would be ... 2 games for my Wii

I have 35+ for 360, and 4+ for my PS3, yes those consoles are like trillions of miles better in gaming thanmy crap Wii

I havent been on this site for very long, and it boggles my mind how critical most people are towards the Wii. I'd say that breaking sales records, having the GOTY, improving third party relations, successfully offering a new way to play, and winning the console war is pretty damn good for a console that many people completely disregarded as a shoe in for last place this gen.

I hear how people say its a bad console, a fad, it's going to ruin the industry ect, yet all of that to me just smacks of the bitter tears of fanboys of other consoles who cant come to terms with the Wii's dominance)

geniusshawnc

it hasn't won anything ans yes it is just a fad. SW is riddled with people who baught wii's play mario and haven't touched em since, myself included. i baught a wii pretty shortly after launch and ive got maybe 20 hours on the thing in total, 20 hours out of a year thats pretty saddening. its cheap so parents buy it for their kids.

also i've heard countless stories of moms going to ebgames and asking for a nintendo when they actually want a 360 or ps3. its just something with older parents, you say ps3 they hear nintendo, you say 360 they hear nintendo. the age barrier is a fact in this. the wii is not even just a fad, its unknowing people buying it because its cheap and unique. too bad the uniqueness wears off after about 5 min.

its gonna win this gen ... but i am not buying a system that has wii fit on it ... and caters more to the casuals than hardcore.humber_matus

I really believe this thinking is wrong. If anything the ps3 and the 360 are both for the casual gamer and the wii is for the hardcore. I mean like 90% of all 360 ps3 games areshort. Content has been cut down to add in online multiplayer. I loved halo 1 and halo 2 and 3multiplayer cut the crap out of the story mode. This trend seems to be happening in every game.

bitter fanboys, insecure or just plain afraid of new things... (or all three reasons combined)Always-Honest

And there are more tears flowing in this thread, gotta love it. Bitter fanboys are the norm around here.

The Wii isn't seen as the success it is because, on a software level, it's not a success at all.

The face that it's software sales don't come close to being as good as the hardware sales is testament to the kind of people who have purchased a Wii. Gamers are certainly not the majority of the Wii market.

[QUOTE="geniusshawnc"]

I havent been on this site for very long, and it boggles my mind how critical most people are towards the Wii. I'd say that breaking sales records, having the GOTY, improving third party relations, successfully offering a new way to play, and winning the console war is pretty damn good for a console that many people completely disregarded as a shoe in for last place this gen.

I hear how people say its a bad console, a fad, it's going to ruin the industry ect, yet all of that to me just smacks of the bitter tears of fanboys of other consoles who cant come to terms with the Wii's dominance)

enygma500

it hasn't won anything ans yes it is just a fad. SW is riddled with people who baught wii's play mario and haven't touched em since, myself included. i baught a wii pretty shortly after launch and ive got maybe 20 hours on the thing in total, 20 hours out of a year thats pretty saddening. its cheap so parents buy it for their kids.

also i've heard countless stories of moms going to ebgames and asking for a nintendo when they actually want a 360 or ps3. its just something with older parents, you say ps3 they hear nintendo, you say 360 they hear nintendo. the age barrier is a fact in this. the wii is not even just a fad, its unknowing people buying it because its cheap and unique. too bad the uniqueness wears off after about 5 min.

OMG did you really just type that??? LOL! Now the excuse is that people don't want a Wii, they meant to say Xbox 360 or Playstation 3?? LOL I love system wars.

[QUOTE="geniusshawnc"]

I havent been on this site for very long, and it boggles my mind how critical most people are towards the Wii. I'd say that breaking sales records, having the GOTY, improving third party relations, successfully offering a new way to play, and winning the console war is pretty damn good for a console that many people completely disregarded as a shoe in for last place this gen.

I hear how people say its a bad console, a fad, it's going to ruin the industry ect, yet all of that to me just smacks of the bitter tears of fanboys of other consoles who cant come to terms with the Wii's dominance)

enygma500

it hasn't won anything ans yes it is just a fad. SW is riddled with people who baught wii's play mario and haven't touched em since, myself included. i baught a wii pretty shortly after launch and ive got maybe 20 hours on the thing in total, 20 hours out of a year thats pretty saddening. its cheap so parents buy it for their kids.

also i've heard countless stories of moms going to ebgames and asking for a nintendo when they actually want a 360 or ps3. its just something with older parents, you say ps3 they hear nintendo, you say 360 they hear nintendo. the age barrier is a fact in this. the wii is not even just a fad, its unknowing people buying it because its cheap and unique. too bad the uniqueness wears off after about 5 min.

The Wii isn't seen as the success it is because, on a software level, it's not a success at all.

The face that it's software sales don't come close to being as good as the hardware sales is testament to the kind of people who have purchased a Wii. Gamers are certainly not the majority of the Wii market.

BambooBanger

The Wii isn't seen as the success it is because, on a software level, it's not a success at all.

The face that it's software sales don't come close to being as good as the hardware sales is testament to the kind of people who have purchased a Wii. Gamers are certainly not the majority of the Wii market.

BambooBanger

Wii has over 13 million sellers, with PLENTY of games on the half way mark.

If you compare the 360's first year you'll notice well wii has more million sellers. So I guess that makes the 360's software sales crap?

A contradiction too, if gamers arent the majority of the market(gamers are all) then what is????

[QUOTE="enygma500"][QUOTE="geniusshawnc"]

I havent been on this site for very long, and it boggles my mind how critical most people are towards the Wii. I'd say that breaking sales records, having the GOTY, improving third party relations, successfully offering a new way to play, and winning the console war is pretty damn good for a console that many people completely disregarded as a shoe in for last place this gen.

I hear how people say its a bad console, a fad, it's going to ruin the industry ect, yet all of that to me just smacks of the bitter tears of fanboys of other consoles who cant come to terms with the Wii's dominance)

geniusshawnc

it hasn't won anything ans yes it is just a fad. SW is riddled with people who baught wii's play mario and haven't touched em since, myself included. i baught a wii pretty shortly after launch and ive got maybe 20 hours on the thing in total, 20 hours out of a year thats pretty saddening. its cheap so parents buy it for their kids.

also i've heard countless stories of moms going to ebgames and asking for a nintendo when they actually want a 360 or ps3. its just something with older parents, you say ps3 they hear nintendo, you say 360 they hear nintendo. the age barrier is a fact in this. the wii is not even just a fad, its unknowing people buying it because its cheap and unique. too bad the uniqueness wears off after about 5 min.

Of course, people get up at 5 in the morning to stand in line for two hours and then get the Wii by mistake!! Oh the madness!!

also i've heard countless stories of moms going to ebgames and asking for a nintendo when they actually want a 360 or ps3. its just something with older parents, you say ps3 they hear nintendo, you say 360 they hear nintendo. the age barrier is a fact in this. the wii is not even just a fad, its unknowing people buying it because its cheap and unique. too bad the uniqueness wears off after about 5 min.

enygma500

Wow, that's ridiculous, but it's funny that you mention this because I was flicking through the 'Christmas Buyers Guide' for a national newspaper here and the videogame section had obviously been paid for by Nintendo, because everything from the "Nations top 10 selling games" to "Editors choice" were all Wii games and no other system was mentioned at all - on a 4 page spread about buying video games.

Oh no, they did mention Mass Effect in the "Editors Choice" section, and I forgot the mention the page soley devoted to SMG.

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

also i've heard countless stories of moms going to ebgames and asking for a nintendo when they actually want a 360 or ps3. its just something with older parents, you say ps3 they hear nintendo, you say 360 they hear nintendo. the age barrier is a fact in this. the wii is not even just a fad, its unknowing people buying it because its cheap and unique. too bad the uniqueness wears off after about 5 min.

BambooBanger

Wow, that's ridiculous, but it's funny that you mention this because I was flicking through the 'Christmas Buyers Guide' for a national newspaper here and the videogame section had obviously been paid for by Nintendo, because everything from the "Nations top 10 selling games" to "Editors choice" were all Wii games and no other system was mentioned at all - on a 4 page spread about buying video games.

Oh no, they did mention Mass Effect in the "Editors Choice" section, and I forgot the mention the page soley devoted to SMG.

more damage control.:roll:

[QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

The Wii isn't seen as the success it is because, on a software level, it's not a success at all.

The face that it's software sales don't come close to being as good as the hardware sales is testament to the kind of people who have purchased a Wii. Gamers are certainly not the majority of the Wii market.

Marth6781

Wii has over 13 million sellers, with PLENTY of game in the half way mark.

If you compare the 360's first year you'll notice well wii has more million sellers. So I guess that makes the 360's software sales crap?

13 million sellers ?

Link please.

[QUOTE="BambooBanger"][QUOTE="enygma500"]

also i've heard countless stories of moms going to ebgames and asking for a nintendo when they actually want a 360 or ps3. its just something with older parents, you say ps3 they hear nintendo, you say 360 they hear nintendo. the age barrier is a fact in this. the wii is not even just a fad, its unknowing people buying it because its cheap and unique. too bad the uniqueness wears off after about 5 min.

Marth6781

Wow, that's ridiculous, but it's funny that you mention this because I was flicking through the 'Christmas Buyers Guide' for a national newspaper here and the videogame section had obviously been paid for by Nintendo, because everything from the "Nations top 10 selling games" to "Editors choice" were all Wii games and no other system was mentioned at all - on a 4 page spread about buying video games.

Oh no, they did mention Mass Effect in the "Editors Choice" section, and I forgot the mention the page soley devoted to SMG.

more damage control.:roll:

Why would I damage control when I own one :roll:

You failed miserably.

Since its Christmas I'm giving away tissues to all the bitter fanboys to wipe away those tears. *sniff*

There, there, it will be ok.

[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

The Wii isn't seen as the success it is because, on a software level, it's not a success at all.

The face that it's software sales don't come close to being as good as the hardware sales is testament to the kind of people who have purchased a Wii. Gamers are certainly not the majority of the Wii market.

BambooBanger

Wii has over 13 million sellers, with PLENTY of game in the half way mark.

If you compare the 360's first year you'll notice well wii has more million sellers. So I guess that makes the 360's software sales crap?

13 million sellers ?

Link please.

vgc charts

people hate on it because it has horrible software line-up, filled with last-gen ports and bargain bin games. And yet it's the most sucessful console around. Bassicaly Wii is to gaming industry what Britney Spears was to music industryAdrianWerner

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]people hate on it because it has horrible software line-up, filled with last-gen ports and bargain bin games. And yet it's the most sucessful console around. Bassicaly Wii is to gaming industry what Britney Spears was to music industrygeniusshawnc

so its fantastic.

Brittney spears was incredible before she fell off.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]people hate on it because it has horrible software line-up, filled with last-gen ports and bargain bin games. And yet it's the most sucessful console around. Bassicaly Wii is to gaming industry what Britney Spears was to music industrygeniusshawnc

Doesn't matter. People see a console with crappy games that is selling insanely well, how can they NOT hate it? It's personifies everything that's wrong with this industry.

And Ninty games are hardly fantastic. SMG is the only "fantastic" game they made this gen

I havent been on this site for very long, and it boggles my mind how critical most people are towards the Wii. I'd say that breaking sales records, having the GOTY, improving third party relations, successfully offering a new way to play, and winning the console war is pretty damn good for a console that many people completely disregarded as a shoe in for last place this gen.

I hear how people say its a bad console, a fad, it's going to ruin the industry ect, yet all of that to me just smacks of the bitter tears of fanboys of other consoles who cant come to terms with the Wii's dominance)

geniusshawnc

That sir, is called damage control. It as futile tactic employed by lemmings and cows and hermits when they know full well that they are totally wrong.

[QUOTE="geniusshawnc"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]people hate on it because it has horrible software line-up, filled with last-gen ports and bargain bin games. And yet it's the most sucessful console around. Bassicaly Wii is to gaming industry what Britney Spears was to music industryAdrianWerner

Doesn't matter. People see consoke with games that is selling insanely well, how can they NOT hate it? It's personifies everything that's wrong with this industry.

And Ninty games are hardly fantastic. SMG is the only "fantastic" game they made this gen

1. Zelda TP
2. Super Paper Mario
3. Metroid Prime 3 Corruption

[QUOTE="geniusshawnc"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]people hate on it because it has horrible software line-up, filled with last-gen ports and bargain bin games. And yet it's the most sucessful console around. Bassicaly Wii is to gaming industry what Britney Spears was to music industryAdrianWerner

Doesn't matter. People see consoke with games that is selling insanely well, how can they NOT hate it? It's personifies everything that's wrong with this industry.

And Ninty games are hardly fantastic. SMG is the only "fantastic" game they made this gen

so you basically disgredited every other game company.

And btw plenty of fantastic games nintendo has created this gen.

[QUOTE="geniusshawnc"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]people hate on it because it has horrible software line-up, filled with last-gen ports and bargain bin games. And yet it's the most sucessful console around. Bassicaly Wii is to gaming industry what Britney Spears was to music industryAdrianWerner

Doesn't matter. People see consoke with games that is selling insanely well, how can they NOT hate it? It's personifies everything that's wrong with this industry.

And Ninty games are hardly fantastic. SMG is the only "fantastic" game they made this gen

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="geniusshawnc"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]people hate on it because it has horrible software line-up, filled with last-gen ports and bargain bin games. And yet it's the most sucessful console around. Bassicaly Wii is to gaming industry what Britney Spears was to music industryBlackbond

Doesn't matter. People see consoke with games that is selling insanely well, how can they NOT hate it? It's personifies everything that's wrong with this industry.

And Ninty games are hardly fantastic. SMG is the only "fantastic" game they made this gen

1. Zelda TP
2. Super Paper Mario
3. Metroid Prime 3 Corruption

But then again by your logic no company has made any fantastic games other then SMG.

This is SW, remember? MP3 and TP are flops here :)