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#51 eveileb-ekam
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[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="shawn7324"] So your saying that because I don't find the Wii's library appealing & hate motion controls I'm ignorant? shawn7324

He was being sarcastic, reading into what I was writing, even though he is wrong. Read the post above yours. I dont think your ignorant at all :)

I agree the bashing should end, but man you know it never will.

I know. It seems to be a necessary thing for the existance of a Nintendo console. I wish Nintendo could just resolve their third party issues, but Japan is in a bit of a slump, and Western devs hate the thing.
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#52 eveileb-ekam
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[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="locopatho"]Nice list, pretty screenshots. The problem is any 360 or PS3 owner could make a much longer and better list, and I say that as a Wii owner. And someof those games are pretty bad to be honest. Disaster? Really?locopatho
General opinion against games like Disaster would seem to indicate that it is bad, but it isnt. The general gaming population seems to hype things up to astronomical proportions, and then are disappointed when their lofty expectations arent met. It happened with Twilight Princess, and it happened with Disaster. It was by no means a bad game; its just that reviewers and consumers alike wanted something else. The game was sent out to die. I bought it; its a great game. 360 and PS3 owners can make longer lists, perhaps, but there are a lot of these games I would rather have on the Wii, because they are not anywhere else. Apart from Nintendo first party titles, you then have games with excellent controls like RE4 Wii edition, sports games, punch-out, arcade racers. You can have Burnout and stuff, but it is no Excite. Im happy playing both. I do not see these games as substitues for ones on the HD systems. And besides, the upcoming games really look to break away from the mentality of before - something that should have happened years ago.

No, I have Disaster. It's bloody terrible. Dirty graphics and bad gameplay. Got it for 12 euro and I feel ripped off. Twilight Princess was awesome though. There are some great games on Wii, but far less than the other consoles, and there's really very little that feels all awesomely different from the others, despite what all the lists say. I like the Wii but there's no way I'd call it excellent. It fits into it's niche as a secondary console, but gets crucified when compared to 360 and PS3 on it's own.

We will have to agree to disagree :D I got the game for about the same price, and feel like it was worth it. I liked the stop and start gameplay, I thought it worked as a good bridge title. This is true, of course. I just wanted to celebrate the Wii's library some, because it does have some truly fantastic titles. Ive used the argument before that I can roughly afford about five games a year on every one of my current gen consoles, including the ds. Thats a little more than 1 game a month. The library of the Wii far exceeds that so, even as a primary console, I would not be able to buy every single game that I wanted to. The HD twins offer more choice and a different styIe of game, but realistically, my collections are pretty even.
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#53 gdp72
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Though I have a Wii at home, Nintendo's line-up doesn't appeal to me anymore. My kid gets plenty of use out of the Wii so it's not a total loss.

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#54 Dystopian-X
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He was being sarcastic, reading into what I was writing, even though he is wrong. Read the post above yours. I dont think your ignorant at all :)eveileb-ekam
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No, I quite clearly wrote in the OP that people can dislike the Wii for valid reasons, and that the games available on the system are not necessarily to everyones taste. The list of games merely proves that there is a large quantity of games considerred good for people whos tastes suit them. Im not dense enough to actually think I can change people's opinions, like some other posters can. Im just tired of Wii hate threads where the reason is "the Wii is bad because it is, and none of the games appeal to me." If they can express their opinions, then so can I in a thread that celebrates the Wii's library, and looks forward to the things coming.eveileb-ekam
So you are making this list...for yourself then? Okay! It won't change much but at least now maybe sheep can't claim ppl don't like the Wii's library because they are "ignorant" about all the Amazing titles. ^_^

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#55 skrat_01
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So, my first reason to own a Wii: The resurrgence of 2D games that hark back to the NES era of simple but excellent gameplay and wonderful artistry.eveileb-ekam

You really... really should checkout the PC indie scene.

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#56 aroxx_ab
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Hah i will laugh when Ubisoft release Red steel2 in FULL HD for Playstation3 with the Magic-motion-control-wand, Wii owned :lol:

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#57 eveileb-ekam
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[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"] He was being sarcastic, reading into what I was writing, even though he is wrong. Read the post above yours. I dont think your ignorant at all :)Dystopian-X

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No, I quite clearly wrote in the OP that people can dislike the Wii for valid reasons, and that the games available on the system are not necessarily to everyones taste. The list of games merely proves that there is a large quantity of games considerred good for people whos tastes suit them. Im not dense enough to actually think I can change people's opinions, like some other posters can. Im just tired of Wii hate threads where the reason is "the Wii is bad because it is, and none of the games appeal to me." If they can express their opinions, then so can I in a thread that celebrates the Wii's library, and looks forward to the things coming.eveileb-ekam
So you are making this list...for yourself then? Okay! It won't change much but at least now maybe sheep can't claim ppl don't like the Wii's library because they are "ignorant" about all the Amazing titles. ^_^

Pretty much :D It wont change anything, I just felt like doing it. I dont think its fair to say people are ignorant. If you dont like a library, then you dont like it, for whatever reason. It helps to research before you make that conclusion, though.
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Hah i will laugh when Ubisoft release Red steel2 in FULL HD for Playstation3 with the Magic-motion-control-wand, Wii owned :lol:

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It's SO funny that a larger audience gets to enjoy the game! I just DIED when No More Heroes went multiplatform. /sarcasm. The more people that play the game the better. I dont care if every game in the Wii's library moves to other platforms.
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I didn't realize that mediocre could be spelled "excellent". :?

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People have different tastes. What might not interest you isn't simply mediocre because ... it doesn't interest you. Most of those games appeal to a specific audience. Some of that audience posts on here on GameSpot, a lot of that audience is a mainstream gamer, a different type of mainstream gamer than the PS3/360 have - which could be a lot of people that post here.
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#60 Thunderdrone
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Super Paper Mario is overrated,imo.MonsieurX
I love that game
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#61 Thunderdrone
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...some of those games are pretty bad to be honest. Disaster? Really?locopatho
I assume you played Disaster Day of Crisis?
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#62 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]...some of those games are pretty bad to be honest. Disaster? Really?Thunderdrone
I assume you played Disaster Day of Crisis?

You assume correctly :)
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#63 chaoz-king
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Yeah 2D and Mario games just don't do it for me anymore.
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#64 hiphops_savior
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Why gamers hate the Wii? It doesn't have a 60 million dollar budget and major advertising, no blood and it doesn't have guns.
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#65 Panosola
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

I didn't realize that mediocre could be spelled "excellent". :?

Haziqonfire

People have different tastes. What might not interest you isn't simply mediocre because ... it doesn't interest you. Most of those games appeal to a specific audience. Some of that audience posts on here on GameSpot, a lot of that audience is a mainstream gamer, a different type of mainstream gamer than the PS3/360 have - which could be a lot of people that post here.

Most of the Wii games look mediocre and worst than PS2/XBOX best games.Maybe it is a good console but not "excellent"...........you will never see a game on the Wii like AC2,Resident Evil 5,U2,Gears of War 2 on PS3/360.

Disaster Day of Crisis look very mediocre and it is just a Disaster for the Wii.

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#66 Thunderdrone
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"][QUOTE="locopatho"]...some of those games are pretty bad to be honest. Disaster? Really?locopatho
I assume you played Disaster Day of Crisis?

You assume correctly :)

You think Disaster is bad?

I know, i know...opinions and all. But i personaly LOVED every second of that game.

I pray for the sequel that will never hapen :(

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#67 topgunmv
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My ds already scratches my 2d itch at a fraction of the price.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

I didn't realize that mediocre could be spelled "excellent". :?

Panosola
People have different tastes. What might not interest you isn't simply mediocre because ... it doesn't interest you. Most of those games appeal to a specific audience. Some of that audience posts on here on GameSpot, a lot of that audience is a mainstream gamer, a different type of mainstream gamer than the PS3/360 have - which could be a lot of people that post here.

Most of the Wii games look mediocre and worst than PS2/XBOX best games.Maybe it is a good console but not "excellent"...........you will never see a game on the Wii like AC2,Resident Evil 5,U2,Gears of War 2 on PS3/360.

My point exactly, people don't like the Wii because it will never get the blockbuster games with a 60 million dollar budget, huge advertising, and it has guns, sex, and violence.
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#69 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Thunderdrone"] I assume you played Disaster Day of Crisis?Thunderdrone

You assume correctly :)

You think Disaster is bad?

I know, i know...opinions and all. But i personaly LOVED every second of that game.

I pray for the sequel that will never hapen :(

I loved the concept but just couldn't enjoy the gameplay, and the graphics were manky. But I'll echo your call for a (much improved) sequel :P
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Don't forget about Super Paper Mario Galaxy: Land of the Seven Stars, Legend of Zelda: A Link to Majora's Princess, Super Smash Brothers We Ran Out of Exciting Subtitles, Mario Football, Mario Basketball, Mario Table Tennis, Mario Foosball, Mario and Sonic Go on a Blind Date, etc., etc. Is there a point to this post? Yeah. I love Nintendo, but maybe they could try some new things? It worked when they decided to try Pikman, it could have worked with Geist. So please, Nintendo, try to get some new material.
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The only game that I am interested in -from your list- is: [Muramasa: The Demon Blade]. I don't care about the other Nintendo franchise such as Mario or Zelda and I don't care if they have high sales. I never liked them even in the first place that much even from the NES days (I had the console in the early 90s maybe 1992).

The other third party games on the Wii well... generally when I look at them I feel like the developer has been forced in integrating the motion device into the gameplay mechanism. Sure we could see some awesome ideas on inventing new way of controlling a game but the real question is, is it fun? For me, no, I tried the Zelda game, Resident Evil (forgot its title) and Wario at my friend's house and they were unique experience but not as fun as playing inFamous or Dragon Age.

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some of those games are truly outstanding but i still think wii is garbage and those games could have been done on gamecube rather then wii which is extremely overpriced and motion controller sucks. is it possible to play those games with gamecube controller?

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some of those games are truly outstanding but i still think wii is garbage and those games could have been done on gamecube rather then wii which is extremely overpriced and motion controller sucks. is it possible to play those games with gamecube controller?

sikanderahmed
Why do you hate the Wii so much? :|
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If I was about 8 years old I would want to play some of those games. Sadly I am long past that stage so Wii does not interest me one bit.
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#75 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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If I was about 8 years old I would want to play some of those games. Sadly I am long past that stage so Wii does not interest me one bit.Jamex1987
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#76 spinecaton
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The Wii has quickly moved its way into an excellent choice for me since re-buying it.

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"]Don't forget about Super Paper Mario Galaxy: Land of the Seven Stars, Legend of Zelda: A Link to Majora's Princess, Super Smash Brothers We Ran Out of Exciting Subtitles, Mario Football, Mario Basketball, Mario Table Tennis, Mario Foosball, Mario and Sonic Go on a Blind Date, etc., etc. Is there a point to this post? Yeah. I love Nintendo, but maybe they could try some new things? It worked when they decided to try Pikman, it could have worked with Geist. So please, Nintendo, try to get some new material.

The franchises spawn consistently good games, and thats what makes them so exciting. The thing is, I agree with you to some degree. It would have been nice for Nintendo to showcase new IP, or resurrect existing IP, but those will come with time. Nintendo already launched a massively successful IP on the Wii this gen, and Im sure we will see some more.
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#78 fueled-system
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i dont think anyone knocks the wiis 1st party games as they are usually superb most people knock it because of the junk 3rd party developers bring to it(kidz sports) though there are a few exceptions

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i dont think anyone knocks the wiis 1st party games as they are usually superb most people knock it because of the junk 3rd party developers bring to it(kidz sports) though there are a few exceptions

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Wii's first party often gets knocked for unoriginality. It seems some people are *really* hard to please.
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[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="jalexbrown"]Don't forget about Super Paper Mario Galaxy: Land of the Seven Stars, Legend of Zelda: A Link to Majora's Princess, Super Smash Brothers We Ran Out of Exciting Subtitles, Mario Football, Mario Basketball, Mario Table Tennis, Mario Foosball, Mario and Sonic Go on a Blind Date, etc., etc. Is there a point to this post? Yeah. I love Nintendo, but maybe they could try some new things? It worked when they decided to try Pikman, it could have worked with Geist. So please, Nintendo, try to get some new material.

The franchises spawn consistently good games, and thats what makes them so exciting. The thing is, I agree with you to some degree. It would have been nice for Nintendo to showcase new IP, or resurrect existing IP, but those will come with time. Nintendo already launched a massively successful IP on the Wii this gen, and Im sure we will see some more.

I might have a bad memory, but aside from Wii Sports, what massively successful IP did they launch on the Wii?
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

some of those games are truly outstanding but i still think wii is garbage and those games could have been done on gamecube rather then wii which is extremely overpriced and motion controller sucks. is it possible to play those games with gamecube controller?

charizard1605

Why do you hate the Wii so much? :|

He gave it in his answer, he thinks the wii is overpriced for what you get.

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[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="jalexbrown"]Don't forget about Super Paper Mario Galaxy: Land of the Seven Stars, Legend of Zelda: A Link to Majora's Princess, Super Smash Brothers We Ran Out of Exciting Subtitles, Mario Football, Mario Basketball, Mario Table Tennis, Mario Foosball, Mario and Sonic Go on a Blind Date, etc., etc. Is there a point to this post? Yeah. I love Nintendo, but maybe they could try some new things? It worked when they decided to try Pikman, it could have worked with Geist. So please, Nintendo, try to get some new material.jalexbrown
The franchises spawn consistently good games, and thats what makes them so exciting. The thing is, I agree with you to some degree. It would have been nice for Nintendo to showcase new IP, or resurrect existing IP, but those will come with time. Nintendo already launched a massively successful IP on the Wii this gen, and Im sure we will see some more.

I might have a bad memory, but aside from Wii Sports, what massively successful IP did they launch on the Wii?

Wii Fit :P

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

some of those games are truly outstanding but i still think wii is garbage and those games could have been done on gamecube rather then wii which is extremely overpriced and motion controller sucks. is it possible to play those games with gamecube controller?

topgunmv

Why do you hate the Wii so much? :|

He gave it in his answer, he thinks the wii is overpriced for what you get.

But shouldn't he actually, you know, give it a chance?
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some of those games are truly outstanding but i still think wii is garbage sikanderahmed
Thats not healthy dude.
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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"][QUOTE="jalexbrown"]Don't forget about Super Paper Mario Galaxy: Land of the Seven Stars, Legend of Zelda: A Link to Majora's Princess, Super Smash Brothers We Ran Out of Exciting Subtitles, Mario Football, Mario Basketball, Mario Table Tennis, Mario Foosball, Mario and Sonic Go on a Blind Date, etc., etc. Is there a point to this post? Yeah. I love Nintendo, but maybe they could try some new things? It worked when they decided to try Pikman, it could have worked with Geist. So please, Nintendo, try to get some new material.

The franchises spawn consistently good games, and thats what makes them so exciting. The thing is, I agree with you to some degree. It would have been nice for Nintendo to showcase new IP, or resurrect existing IP, but those will come with time. Nintendo already launched a massively successful IP on the Wii this gen, and Im sure we will see some more.

I might have a bad memory, but aside from Wii Sports, what massively successful IP did they launch on the Wii?

You nailed it. The Wii series is a new IP for Nintendo, they funnelled a lot of time, energy and money into it, and they have achieved their goals admirably. I see no reason to not include it when talking about new IP.
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#86 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Why do you hate the Wii so much? :|charizard1605

He gave it in his answer, he thinks the wii is overpriced for what you get.

But shouldn't he actually, you know, give it a chance?

You mean actually play it? I was assuming by his comments about the controller that he already had.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

He gave it in his answer, he thinks the wii is overpriced for what you get.

topgunmv

But shouldn't he actually, you know, give it a chance?

You mean actually play it? I was assuming by his comments about the controller that he already had.

i mean, there are some great new games, shouldnt he give those a chance?
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Paper Mario was a terrible game, you spent an hour of just characters talking and hardly any gameplay at all, it was soooo boring.

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#89 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] But shouldn't he actually, you know, give it a chance?charizard1605

You mean actually play it? I was assuming by his comments about the controller that he already had.

i mean, there are some great new games, shouldnt he give those a chance?

He already said they look great.

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#90 Thunderdrone
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Paper Mario was a terrible game, you spent an hour of just characters talking and hardly any gameplay at all, it was soooo boring.RedCat65
You forgot, of course, to mention that the writing in the Paper series is better then 90% of anything else currently available.
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#91 salxis
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[QUOTE="salxis"]Twilight Princess is not AAA sir :?Pices
It is, according to me

Fair enough can't argue with that
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#92 eveileb-ekam
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[QUOTE="RedCat65"]Paper Mario was a terrible game, you spent an hour of just characters talking and hardly any gameplay at all, it was soooo boring.Thunderdrone
You forgot, of course, to mention that the writing in the Paper series is better then 90% of anything else currently available.

This. I acknowledge that Super Paper Mario was perhaps a weak link in the chain of awesome so far provided by the series, but you must have known what you were getting yourself into. Why buy a Paper Mario game if you feel like dialogue is a chore? I hope you feel the same about a lot of cutscene / dialogue intensive games, rather than singling out this particular one.
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#93 haziqonfire
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

I didn't realize that mediocre could be spelled "excellent". :?

Panosola

People have different tastes. What might not interest you isn't simply mediocre because ... it doesn't interest you. Most of those games appeal to a specific audience. Some of that audience posts on here on GameSpot, a lot of that audience is a mainstream gamer, a different type of mainstream gamer than the PS3/360 have - which could be a lot of people that post here.

Most of the Wii games look mediocre and worst than PS2/XBOX best games.Maybe it is a good console but not "excellent"...........you will never see a game on the Wii like AC2,Resident Evil 5,U2,Gears of War 2 on PS3/360.

Disaster Day of Crisis look very mediocre and it is just a Disaster for the Wii.

I wasn't talking about looks. Its obvious no game is ever going to be like AC2/U2/RE5/etc on the Wii.

Thats not exactlywhat the console is about. Its a concept many gamers don't seem to understand. Both Wii fans and gamers in general.

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#94 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

You mean actually play it? I was assuming by his comments about the controller that he already had.

topgunmv

i mean, there are some great new games, shouldnt he give those a chance?

He already said they look great.

In which case, his hatred is quite inexplicable.
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#95 qewrewq
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and a list of screenshots is supposed to change who's opinion exactly? really, what's the point of this thread?

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#96 Silent-Hal
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and a list of screenshots is supposed to change who's opinion exactly? really, what's the point of this thread?

qewrewq
I dunno, but we sure seem to get a lot of them. Threads like these will never change anyone's mind, and that goes for all the systems.
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#97 jalexbrown
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[QUOTE="eveileb-ekam"] You nailed it. The Wii series is a new IP for Nintendo, they funnelled a lot of time, energy and money into it, and they have achieved their goals admirably. I see no reason to not include it when talking about new IP.

Fair enough, although I would like Nintendo to create a new IP for the core audience. The Wii franchise of games is a huge success, and Nintendo did accomplish what they set out to do, but it would be nice to see something along the lines of what Geist had the potential to be.
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#98 Kan0nF0dder
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There are some good games on the wii - and unique gameplay experiences. It really doesn't deserve all the hate it gets on this board. The other consoles claim innovation but really most of their ideas were inspired by what was already on the PC.

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#99 eveileb-ekam
Member since 2009 • 1578 Posts

and a list of screenshots is supposed to change who's opinion exactly? really, what's the point of this thread?

qewrewq
Not trying to change opinions at all, please read the thread rather than just look at the pictures. Thanks :)
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#100 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Super Paper Mario is overrated,imo.Thunderdrone
I love that game

I haven't said that I don't love it,I was expecting a lot more from it