The Wii may end up losing a big amount of its awesome exclusives

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#51 osan0
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hmm. its a very risky decision. alot of those games are love it/hate it games and they are very high risk due to them being a bit..well..out there. by going multiplat (especially going from the wii to HD consoles) the dev costs and resources needed are going to shoot up alot (were talking at least double the investment). it would be great if they did find a big audience on the other consoles.....but im not sure the customers they are lookiong for are on those platforms either and i think it could be a financial disaster for them. just out of interest, who here has a 360/ps3/PC but no wii (and have no intention to get one because they think its filth) would buy little kings story? assuming its just a HD version of the wii game..same content and graphical style.
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#52 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="_BlueDuck_"]

It just means its not necessarily their call here. For example Muramasa almost ended up publisherless here, which would have sucked. If these games failed to reach sales expectations (which is what the articles suggests) then other publishers might not be so keen on localizing them. Not saying that's the case one way or another, but its a possibility.

_BlueDuck_

I doubt that all publishers are going to refuse them. :roll:

Yeah I know that. I'm just saying that Marvelous porting these over doesn't comfirm that they will bereleased outside of Japan.

Thank god PS3 is region free. Of course, this is really only useful for those with some knowledge of Japanese, but ...

Oh, and its funny that it mentions Rainy Woods because I was actually hoping that it was canceled. It looks terrible.

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#53 bc1391
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Out of all their games, Muramasa makes the most sense to port up. The others...not so much. They are trying to put their games on the HD consoles so they can get more sales, but I doubt that strategy is going to work. They make niche games, they aren't going to sell many games regardless of platforms. This could hurt them more than it can benefit them.

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#54 hakanakumono
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Out of all their games, Muramasa makes the most sense to port up. The others...not so much. They are trying to put their games on the HD consoles so they can get more sales, but I doubt that strategy is going to work. They make niche games, they aren't going to sell many games regardless of platforms. This could hurt them more than it can benefit them.

bc1391

More sales are more sales are more sales.

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#55 surrealnumber5
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the "hd consoles" getting hand me downs from the wii? i wonder how the wii haters feel about this
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#56 Silenthps
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i doubt their games would sell well on the PS360 either.
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#57 Senor_Kami
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MEGATON COMETH!!!

If this eve happens, I wonder what would the sheep have left to brag about??

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The same/only thing Nintendo fans have been bragging about since the N64-era: Nintendo games. The day Nintendo loses Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Starfox, Pikmin, Mario Kart, Smash Brothers, etc, etc, ad nauseum etc, is the day Nintendo is in a bad spot.

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#59 flazzle
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[QUOTE="flazzle"]

Sometimes good games don't sell, even if you switch consoles. Take Okami for example. It had dissapointing sales on PS2, then the same on Wii.

hakanakumono

The wii ver. wasn't ported by Capcom and has graphical issues.

yeah ok.. that totally held back the sales. Otherwise it would have been sales success... /sarcasm

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#60 atarigrad
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Wii exclusives? Can you name one that has been really good? AAA?

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#61 BioShockOwnz
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Wii exclusives? Can you name one that has been really good? AAA?

atarigrad

No More Heroes was AAA. Beyond "very good". Beyond "great" even.

Little King's Story was also beyond "very good". It's "great".

^Using Gamespot reviews.

Muramasa, we'll have to see about when GS reviews it.

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#62 GodofBigMacs
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Wow... that would be EXTREMELY hefty of a loss.
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#63 ActicEdge
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Wow... that would be EXTREMELY hefty of a loss. GodofBigMacs

To be honest, would it? I actually looked into this and it seems that it most likely will only be muramasa which is fine since everyone could enjoy playing it lol.

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#64 kingkui
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Why would they sell better on any other console? They' loose money buffing it up to PS3/360 standards then having poor sales.

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#65 Filthybastrd
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So 2 years down the road We'll see troll threads titled "lol, wii version looks better than ps360lololol" containing massive amounts of Crysis pics.

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#66 CuDDKiDD
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[QUOTE="bc1391"]

Out of all their games, Muramasa makes the most sense to port up. The others...not so much. They are trying to put their games on the HD consoles so they can get more sales, but I doubt that strategy is going to work. They make niche games, they aren't going to sell many games regardless of platforms. This could hurt them more than it can benefit them.

hakanakumono

More sales are more sales are more sales.

More sales wouldn't really help them much if they lost more money.

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#67 atarigrad
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[QUOTE="atarigrad"]

Wii exclusives? Can you name one that has been really good? AAA?

BioShockOwnz

No More Heroes was AAA. Beyond "very good". Beyond "great" even.

Little King's Story was also beyond "very good". It's "great".

^Using Gamespot reviews.

Muramasa, we'll have to see about when GS reviews it.

Madworld is the only I could think of. No more heroes? Didn't know it reviewed that well. thought it was AA

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#68 DRAGONPIECEZ
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]

Exclusives yes, Quality? ha....

Quality and wii shouldn't be said in the same sentense.....

All_that_is_Man

That's great that you don't like the Wii -- I don't either, but really now?

Guess which lists are lonely on the exclusive front, here I'll tell you: Xbox 360 and PS3.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p8153E9FCqcu0vgSkkHQJWw&gid=1

I prefer quality over quantity

no it's ok. just man up and admit you're wrong and a fanboy and we'll be on our way. even stevo was big enough to admit Wii has exclusives

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#69 mixmax5
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O dear.

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#70 OldSkoolGamer04
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Nintendo's third party woes continue to be their biggest hurdle. It doesn't seem to matter now, but it might become a problem again toward the end of this generation or the beginning of the next.

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#71 shutdown_202
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I called it! I made a thread not too long ago stating the Wii may lose its existing 3rd party exclusives and that it would happen more when the other motion controllers drop.

Anyway according to the HDfanboys, all Wii 3rd party games are crap anyway and would never be considered on the other consoles. So i guess its not really a loss then.

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#72 hy4k
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it serves wii owners right
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#73 PS2_ROCKS
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I wonder, in several gens from now if Nintendo will even bother with 3rd party. It just doesn't seem to work out for them.
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#74 Brawl578
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I think the wii needs some awesome exclusives before it can lose them

All_that_is_Man

Somebody hasn't seen Wii's 2009 lineup. Punch-Out, NSMB Wii, Little King's Story, Muramasa, Rune Factory: Frontier, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Wii Sports Resort, The Conduit, I can go on forever buddy. Just because you don't see any good exclusives doesn't mean others don't.

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#75 Thunderdrone
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Marvelous Entertainment; one step closer to the grave
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#76 HarlockJC
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If they are not selling it does not seem like the public will care
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#77 HarlockJC
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Wii exclusives? Can you name one that has been really good? AAA?

atarigrad
No More Heros
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#78 Dycras
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]

Exclusives yes, Quality? ha....

Quality and wii shouldn't be said in the same sentense.....

All_that_is_Man

That's great that you don't like the Wii -- I don't either, but really now?

Guess which lists are lonely on the exclusive front, here I'll tell you: Xbox 360 and PS3.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p8153E9FCqcu0vgSkkHQJWw&gid=1

I prefer quality over quantity

and we prefer variety and quality then generic quality

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#79 deactivated-598fc45371265
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They should put Muramasa on PSN/XBl.

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#80 Thunderdrone
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They should put Muramasa on PSN/XBl.

Storm_Marine
Yup, thats smart. Sell it full price (as it should be, its a full game) on one console, and then release it for 20/30 bucks online on other systems
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#81 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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without the wii mote those games will be amazing, and no i'm not sarcastic

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#82 Thunderdrone
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without the wii mote those games will be amazing, and no i'm not sarcastic

da_illest101
It should be sarcasm. Muramasa uses traditional controls, Arc Rise Fantasia uses traditional controls, Little King Story uses traditional controls... so what the hell do you mean? Ah it was just fanboy drivel And lol at double standards, yeah i actually cant wait to see how well a Wii up-port will do. And how the "high-standard" princes of gaming look upon its presentation Its gonna be tragicaly hilarious.
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#83 KungfuKitten
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I wonder, in several gens from now if Nintendo will even bother with 3rd party. It just doesn't seem to work out for them.PS2_ROCKS
Yeah it's because gamers are all "durrrr faptech" and developers are all "durrrr nintendo makes more profit". And i am looking at this thinking "durrrr gamers = boring, developers = out of business".
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#84 Lionheart08
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I'll admit, a No More Heroes port to PS3/360 would be pretty sweet.

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#85 KungfuKitten
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I'll admit, a No More Heroes port to PS3/360 would be pretty sweet.

Lionheart08
Too bad it would probably be the end of suda >.> Orrrrr it would have to be a downloadable title. Could be.
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#86 deactivated-598fc45371265
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

They should put Muramasa on PSN/XBl.

Thunderdrone

Yup, thats smart. Sell it full price (as it should be, its a full game) on one console, and then release it for 20/30 bucks online on other systems

Except I didn't think it should be retail in the first place. I think it would do far better as a downloadable game.

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#87 Thunderdrone
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

They should put Muramasa on PSN/XBl.

Storm_Marine

Yup, thats smart. Sell it full price (as it should be, its a full game) on one console, and then release it for 20/30 bucks online on other systems

Except I didn't think it should be retail in the first place. I think it would do far better as a downloadable game.

Because its 2D? Cuz if so, i'm done here.
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1)Problem is that these games won't sell on PS3 or 360. They are too niche for the PS3 and 360 audiences. If they bombed on Wii, they will bomb on the HD consoles.They're not shooters or sandbox.

2)Also, I don't see them being released outside Japan because of most Marvelous games are not even published by Marvelous in NA. They are either from XSEED (Arc Rise Fantasia and Little King's Story) or Ignition Entertainment for Muramasa. BTW, XSEED is not affiliated to Marvelous. If they can't bring them on Wii, why would Marvelous release them on the HD consoles?

I'm still going to get Muramasa in September, Arc Rise Fantasia in November and Little King's Story this July.

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#89 deactivated-598fc45371265
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"] Yup, thats smart. Sell it full price (as it should be, its a full game) on one console, and then release it for 20/30 bucks online on other systemsThunderdrone

Except I didn't think it should be retail in the first place. I think it would do far better as a downloadable game.

Because its 2D? Cuz if so, i'm done here.

Yes. I think it'd be hard to compell the average consumer to pay full price for a 2D game. Regardless of it's quality.

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#90 -PuLse
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Yes. I think it'd be hard to compell the average consumer to pay full price for a 2D game. Regardless of it's quality.

Storm_Marine

What about BlazBlue?

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#91 deactivated-598fc45371265
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Yes. I think it'd be hard to compell the average consumer to pay full price for a 2D game. Regardless of it's quality.

-PuLse

What about BlazBlue?

I've seriously never heard of it. :?

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#92 PannicAtack
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I think the wii needs some awesome exclusives before it can lose them

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[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Yes. I think it'd be hard to compell the average consumer to pay full price for a 2D game. Regardless of it's quality.

Storm_Marine

What about BlazBlue?

I've seriously never heard of it. :?

Upon research. No, I don't imagine that being a big sales hit.

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#94 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]What about BlazBlue?

Storm_Marine

I've seriously never heard of it. :?

Upon research. No, I don't imagine that being a big sales hit.

Well, there was Braid. But that wasn't full retail price.
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#95 DeadEndPanda
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The Wii can't lose any of its awesome exclusives because they are all first party titles. Third party developers put their best stuff on the other two consoles.

sonicare

yup, nintendo can keep up with any other 3party with ease, they have always been holding their console with their bear hands

and besides only no more heroes and LKS are out o,o the rest isnt out outside of JP

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I've seriously never heard of it. :?

PannicAtack

Upon research. No, I don't imagine that being a big sales hit.

Well, there was Braid. But that wasn't full retail price.

Braid wasn't a physical retail title.

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#97 Boomarley
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If I dare ask, what exactly is the big deal with losing exclusives? All it means is that solo console owners get to enjoy more games. I wonder why everyone seems to be all "sour grapes" with exclusives and then claim ownage when those same exclusives get ported over.

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#98 Giancar
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Musarama in full hd *drools* :shock: those should be psn/live games...but I really doubt it will help the financial situation of Marvelous the ports of those games.... maybe the new upcoming games for ps3/360
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#99 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]

I think the wii needs some awesome exclusives before it can lose them

Stevo_the_gamer

The Wii already has more quality exclusives than the PS3 and X360 (combined) this year. :?

The Hellghast march on top of those Wii exclusives :P
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#100 Junior_AIN
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Muramasa Demon Blade is the ONLY game I'm looking forward for the Wii. This console is a joke.