the WII mote adds nothing positive to gameplay

seriously nintendo fans what does it add????

 its just a dumbed down controller for casuals

when you play complex control games you will need a ps3, or 360 controller.

You prove nothing.

It contains all the abilities of a normal gamepad plus one thing: variety.

Zelda has complex controls and it played great with the Wiimpte.web966

And it played BEST with the remote.

your still just using a controller though

 so whats the point of flailing your arms around????

the ps3 did it right they give us the standard controller we love, and threw in motion tilting as a side thing and we can even turn it off if we dont like it, with the WII the whole gimmick is the basis of the console..

[QUOTE="web966"]Zelda has complex controls and it played great with the Wiimpte.Willy105

And it played BEST with the remote.

Yea with the gamecube remote. Played it on wii, couldnt stand it. it's just so freaking stupid.

Wii sports, oh my i can wave one hand. thats he ENTIRE gameplay.

warioware. put own remote, pick up. jump up and down. hmm I sure had a blast just jumping up and down. /rolls eyes 

[QUOTE="web966"]Zelda has complex controls and it played great with the Wiimpte.Willy105

And it played BEST with the remote.

seriously nintendo fans what does it add????

its just a dumbed down controller for casuals

when you play complex control games you will need a ps3, or 360 controller.

 

 

tidus222

And FFX is a Final Fantasy dumbed down for casuals too right? 

Zelda has complex controls and it played great with the Wiimpte.web966

I completely disagree.

The controls felt tacked on. Especially during combat.

If it was such a gimmick, then why did the company that dominated for all of the past two gens throw it into there controller weeks before E3? Because they knew Nintendo had something with there pad.

[QUOTE="web966"]Zelda has complex controls and it played great with the Wiimpte.purplemidgets

I completely disagree.

The controls felt tacked on. Especially during combat.

You seem to be in the minority. Most people liked the controls.

If it was such a gimmick, then why did the company that dominated for all of the past two gens throw it into there controller weeks before E3? Because they knew Nintendo had something with there pad.

Yagami-Iori

hmm because they were in a law suit and couldn´t get rumble? 

I have more fun with the Wiimote.

You're entitled to your opinion too, though. 

[QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"]

If it was such a gimmick, then why did the company that dominated for all of the past two gens throw it into there controller weeks before E3? Because they knew Nintendo had something with there pad.

Eddie-Vedder

hmm because they were in a law suit and couldn´t get rumble?

That isn't any justification to try and do something similar to the competition.  

Zelda has complex controls and it played great with the Wiimpte.web966

Compared to MGS1? No.  Sad to see a PS1 game out-complex a current gen game. 

Ironically enough the Wiimote actually makes some games MORE complicated thus making it more of a hardcore console then some would think.

 (SSX Blur and Madden for example.)

[QUOTE="web966"]Zelda has complex controls and it played great with the Wiimpte.NobuoMusicMaker

Compared to MGS1? No.  Sad to see a PS1 game out-complex a current gen game. 

Im sure MGS could be played with the Wiimote.

allright imagine trying to play metal gear solid 3 subsistence with the wiimote

 the WII mote would fail so hard

It's funny how the Wiimote is so hyped yet about half of all GS reviewed Wii games suffer from control issues.

[QUOTE="web966"]Zelda has complex controls and it played great with the Wiimpte.NobuoMusicMaker

Compared to MGS1? No. Sad to see a PS1 game out-complex a current gen game.

WTF you again?Dencore

[QUOTE="web966"]Zelda has complex controls and it played great with the Wiimpte.NobuoMusicMaker

Compared to MGS1? No. Sad to see a PS1 game out-complex a current gen game.

I would describe MGS controls as "archaic" as opposed to "complex". Anyways, how complex is a game in which you cannot face a diagonal direction? 

[QUOTE="Willy105"]

[QUOTE="web966"]Zelda has complex controls and it played great with the Wiimpte.DoctorBunny

And it played BEST with the remote.

Yea with the gamecube remote. Played it on wii, couldnt stand it. it's just so freaking stupid.

Wii sports, oh my i can wave one hand. thats he ENTIRE gameplay.

warioware. put own remote, pick up. jump up and down. hmm I sure had a blast just jumping up and down. /rolls eyes

IMO Zelda for GC is better. Only thing better w/ the Wii one is 16:9 widescreen.

It's funny how the Wiimote is so hyped yet about half of all GS reviewed Wii games suffer from control issues.

Gamer556

the wii mote hasnt yet been utilised to its full potential. you do realize how hard it is for the devs to create games using the wii mote for the first time?

That's an opinion. Therefore this thread is worthless.ithilgore2006

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[QUOTE="web966"]Zelda has complex controls and it played great with the Wiimpte.DoctorBunny

And it played BEST with the remote.

Yea with the gamecube remote. Played it on wii, couldnt stand it. it's just so freaking stupid.

Wii sports, oh my i can wave one hand. thats he ENTIRE gameplay.

warioware. put own remote, pick up. jump up and down. hmm I sure had a blast just jumping up and down. /rolls eyes 

[QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"]

If it was such a gimmick, then why did the company that dominated for all of the past two gens throw it into there controller weeks before E3? Because they knew Nintendo had something with there pad.

Eddie-Vedder

hmm because they were in a law suit and couldn´t get rumble? 

By that logic, they could have thrown just about anything into the controller to replace the rumble. Why not just add some internal kittens for extra cuteness, then?

[QUOTE="web966"]Zelda has complex controls and it played great with the Wiimpte.NobuoMusicMaker

Compared to MGS1? No. Sad to see a PS1 game out-complex a current gen game.

Quiet fanboy, no one told you to talk. >:C

Also, this thread is really really lame.  

seriously nintendo fans what does it add????

 its just a dumbed down controller for casuals

when you play complex control games you will need a ps3, or 360 controller.

tidus222

PLease tell me what is NOT complex about using motion to interact with a game.  THEN tell me what you think is so complex about pushing buttons...which is all you do with other controllers.

Do you honestly think motion is less complex than pushing buttons?  Do you think being able to physically interact with games is more dumbed down than pushing buttons?

It's funny how the Wiimote is so hyped yet about half of all GS reviewed Wii games suffer from control issues.

Gamer556

Because it's a whole new way to control. The industry hasn't gotten a hang of it yet, especially the launch games. In time, you will be able to do some pretty awesome stuff with it. 

[QUOTE="tidus222"]

seriously nintendo fans what does it add????

 its just a dumbed down controller for casuals

when you play complex control games you will need a ps3, or 360 controller.

Rosencrantz

PLease tell me what is NOT complex about using motion to interact with a game.  THEN tell me what you think is so complex about pushing buttons...which is all you do with other controllers.

Do you honestly think motion is less complex than pushing buttons?  Do you think being able to physically interact with games is more dumbed down than pushing buttons?

tell me how to put pressure sensitivity into motion sensing

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"]

If it was such a gimmick, then why did the company that dominated for all of the past two gens throw it into there controller weeks before E3? Because they knew Nintendo had something with there pad.

Yagami-Iori

hmm because they were in a law suit and couldn´t get rumble?

By that logic, they could have thrown just about anything into the controller to replace the rumble. Why not just add some internal kittens for extra cuteness, then?

[QUOTE="Rosencrantz"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

seriously nintendo fans what does it add????

its just a dumbed down controller for casuals

when you play complex control games you will need a ps3, or 360 controller.

aaron6581230

PLease tell me what is NOT complex about using motion to interact with a game. THEN tell me what you think is so complex about pushing buttons...which is all you do with other controllers.

Do you honestly think motion is less complex than pushing buttons? Do you think being able to physically interact with games is more dumbed down than pushing buttons?

tell me how to put pressure sensitivity into motion sensing

[QUOTE="tidus222"]

seriously nintendo fans what does it add????

its just a dumbed down controller for casuals

when you play complex control games you will need a ps3, or 360 controller.

 

 

Blackbond

And FFX is a Final Fantasy dumbed down for casuals too right? 

Stay on topic This is about Controlers not Games...and FFX was still fun so shut it

the wiimote has much deeper controls than the other controllers:

360 controller: 10 buttons (4 shoulder buttons, 4 more, start, select), 2 sticks, dpad

sixaxis: 10 buttons (4 shoulder buttons, 4 buttons, start, select), 2 sticks, dpad, and tilt

wiimote/nunchuck: 8/9 buttons (z, c, a, b, 1, 2, +, -, not sure if home button counts), d-pad, stick, full screen pointer, 2 360 degree tilt motion sensing controllers

so basically the sixaxis is better than the the 360 controller by the tilt.

the wiimote has 2 fewer buttons and one less stick.  The 2 tilts are incredibly sensitive and can be used in many ways, and the cursor is such a wicked control method. it destroys sticks.  Wii wins this battle easily. 

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

It's funny how the Wiimote is so hyped yet about half of all GS reviewed Wii games suffer from control issues.

Homesrfan

Because it's a whole new way to control. The industry hasn't gotten a hang of it yet, especially the launch games. In time, you will be able to do some pretty awesome stuff with it. 

But it will never be as precise as a mouse, or even a joystick, because there is nothing to rest the device on. Developer experience is not going to fix that.

[QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

It's funny how the Wiimote is so hyped yet about half of all GS reviewed Wii games suffer from control issues.

Gamer556

Because it's a whole new way to control. The industry hasn't gotten a hang of it yet, especially the launch games. In time, you will be able to do some pretty awesome stuff with it.

But it will never be as precise as a mouse, or even a joystick, because there is nothing to rest the device on. Developer experience is not going to fix that.

You know the Wiimote isn't just a pointer right? 

[QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

It's funny how the Wiimote is so hyped yet about half of all GS reviewed Wii games suffer from control issues.

Gamer556

Because it's a whole new way to control. The industry hasn't gotten a hang of it yet, especially the launch games. In time, you will be able to do some pretty awesome stuff with it. 

But it will never be as precise as a mouse, or even a joystick, because there is nothing to rest the device on. Developer experience is not going to fix that.

You can rest your wrist on your knee.

[QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"]

If it was such a gimmick, then why did the company that dominated for all of the past two gens throw it into there controller weeks before E3? Because they knew Nintendo had something with there pad.

Darthmatt

hmm because they were in a law suit and couldn´t get rumble?

By that logic, they could have thrown just about anything into the controller to replace the rumble. Why not just add some internal kittens for extra cuteness, then?

I'm not arguing against them using rumble (I've known that Immersion thing since the news of the suits broke years ago), I'm arguing that saying that they added the tilt just to replace the rumble with anything is invalid.