The Wii takeover has to end! The true gaming machines need to be in charge!

[QUOTE="IAmRodyle"]You realize that half of the games you listed were sequels as well? Self-owned.Spartanx23

Oh, please go ahead and show me where I wrote sequel? Must have to do with a reading and comprehension level I suppose.:|

I said remakes and spinoffs!!!!!! None of the 360/PS3 games I listed are either, but if your still confused on the matter here's an example of each.:)

A spinoff would be Halo Wars, which comes from none other than Halo.

A remake would be RE4, which comes from the same exact game that was released on the Gamecube.

A sequel is, well, Halo 2, which comes from Halo.

Class dismissed!:)

Fine you listed Motorstorm as a great game. Self-owned. I can tell you it isn't without even playing it. You know why? ITS A FREAKING RACING GAME WITHOUT SPLIT SCREEN MULTIPLAYER. Thats like making the next Unreal Tournament without online multiplayer.

some gamers out there obviously think that the Wii is an inferior console because it lacks the power of PS3 & X360 & its only popular with casuals who havent realised it doesnt have many games.

but i say innovation is good for the industry.

Hey, I have all the money in the world for gaming but I bought a Wii because it offered something I wanted in gaming... SOMETHING NEW.

If you don't want the games for Wii, than tough, cuz with Wii on a selling spree... nobodies gonna want to develop for 360 or PS3. 

And what about games like No more heros? or Disaster? or Battalion Wars? or many of the other games you're simply glossing over? Some of the games you listed for PS3 or 360 are either unproven (example mass effect) or suck (example Motorstorm). So stop speaking like what you say is the gosple. 

TacoJelly

So you thought the Wii was going to give you something new in gaming.  Hum.  What has it given you so far, that the 360 and PS3 havn't?  For that matter.  What has the Wii given you that the older machines didn't.

Your answer I'm sure will be fun, fun, fun!  It's as if you thought you were never having fun with games to begin with.  You probably never thought to take the Wii-mote away from the Wii.:|

Do that, and you'll see right through your own argument.

Same games dude.  Same games.  Games were always fun, and they always will be.  You don't need gimmicks to change gaming for the better.  Those games you listed need to be pushed by the latest technology in order for them to be fully realized.

If anybody's games are getting the glossed over treatment, it's Nintendo's.

some gamers out there obviously think that the Wii is an inferior console because it lacks the power of PS3 & X360 & its only popular with casuals who havent realised it doesnt have many games.

but i say innovation is good for the industry.

CwlHeddwyn

Casuals dont give a system a 6.13 games/system attach rate. People like us do. Hardcores are buying the Wii. 

[QUOTE="TacoJelly"]

Hey, I have all the money in the world for gaming but I bought a Wii because it offered something I wanted in gaming... SOMETHING NEW.

If you don't want the games for Wii, than tough, cuz with Wii on a selling spree... nobodies gonna want to develop for 360 or PS3.

And what about games like No more heros? or Disaster? or Battalion Wars? or many of the other games you're simply glossing over? Some of the games you listed for PS3 or 360 are either unproven (example mass effect) or suck (example Motorstorm). So stop speaking like what you say is the gosple.

Spartanx23

So you thought the Wii was going to give you something new in gaming. Hum. What has it given you so far, that the 360 and PS3 havn't? For that matter. What has the Wii given you that the older machines didn't.

Your answer I'm sure will be fun, fun, fun! It's as if you thought you were never having fun with games to begin with. You probably never thought to take the Wii-mote away from the Wii.:|

Do that, and you'll see right through your own argument.

Same games dude. Same games. Games were always fun, and they always will be. You don't need gimmicks to change gaming for the better. Those games you listed need to be pushed by the latest technology in order for them to be fully realized.

If anybody's games are getting the glossed over treatment, it's Nintendo's.

Right back at you. Lets take the GPU out of the 360. We will see right through your argument. The Wii isn't a better way to play games, its just different, and different is good for the industry. 

[QUOTE="Spartanx23"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Spartanx23"]

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]They're all true gaming machines. The Wii happens to have something different to offer. And I find it very funny how people still use the "Wii has no games!" excuse. But I'm not going to post a long list of games to own you because you'll just ignore it anyway. Nobody says you have to buy a Wii. If you hate it so much, don't buy it. You're not going to sway anyone's judgement with a fanboy rant.Davis092

The Wii just happens to have something different to offer?????? What's different about a Gamecube slaping motion controls onto the same games we played last gen, or for that matter the gen before!

You can honestly tell me that the Wii has games! My brother got his Wii for Christmas and has 3 whole games! Zelda TP, Wii Sports, and Red Steel, because we simply had to see if a FPS could work on this system. Guess what? It doesn't! You can't make strides in gaming if you don't have better memory, and graphics horsepower! The memory leads to the all important A.I., and graphics lend a huge hand to the immersion factor!

I'll be the first to admit that Zelda TOOT was great and I was completely immersed and invovled in the story, but games ahve changed since mutliple generations ago, so wake up and smell the coffee!!!!

This Wii is nothing but garbage and the only other games that will ever be worth puchasing will once again come from Nintendo. That's roughly 6-8 more games I'm thinkingm before the Wii is totally useless.

Click on the Avatar.

I'm sorry but looking at your profile, did you just rate Sonic 360 AA?

It's supposed to be a joke.  I new I should have given it an even higher rating, but you have to read the review!:)  I guess my sense of humor was lost on that one.:|  Sorry.

That game, like all the others after Sonic Adventure are a total joke!

[QUOTE="Spartanx23"][QUOTE="TacoJelly"]

Hey, I have all the money in the world for gaming but I bought a Wii because it offered something I wanted in gaming... SOMETHING NEW.

If you don't want the games for Wii, than tough, cuz with Wii on a selling spree... nobodies gonna want to develop for 360 or PS3.

And what about games like No more heros? or Disaster? or Battalion Wars? or many of the other games you're simply glossing over? Some of the games you listed for PS3 or 360 are either unproven (example mass effect) or suck (example Motorstorm). So stop speaking like what you say is the gosple.

bloodychimp

So you thought the Wii was going to give you something new in gaming. Hum. What has it given you so far, that the 360 and PS3 havn't? For that matter. What has the Wii given you that the older machines didn't.

Your answer I'm sure will be fun, fun, fun! It's as if you thought you were never having fun with games to begin with. You probably never thought to take the Wii-mote away from the Wii.:|

Do that, and you'll see right through your own argument.

Same games dude. Same games. Games were always fun, and they always will be. You don't need gimmicks to change gaming for the better. Those games you listed need to be pushed by the latest technology in order for them to be fully realized.

If anybody's games are getting the glossed over treatment, it's Nintendo's.

Right back at you. Lets take the GPU out of the 360. We will see right through your argument. The Wii isn't a better way to play games, its just different, and different is good for the industry. 

Sticking up for Taco.  How nice.:)

If I take out the 360 GPU I'm left with a different console.  Correct.  If I take the Wii-mote away from the Wii, then I'm left with the same console.  True or false?

But I guess if that Wii-mote makes you feel more secure, that's cool.

[QUOTE="Davis092"][QUOTE="Spartanx23"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Spartanx23"]

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]They're all true gaming machines. The Wii happens to have something different to offer. And I find it very funny how people still use the "Wii has no games!" excuse. But I'm not going to post a long list of games to own you because you'll just ignore it anyway. Nobody says you have to buy a Wii. If you hate it so much, don't buy it. You're not going to sway anyone's judgement with a fanboy rant.Spartanx23

The Wii just happens to have something different to offer?????? What's different about a Gamecube slaping motion controls onto the same games we played last gen, or for that matter the gen before!

You can honestly tell me that the Wii has games! My brother got his Wii for Christmas and has 3 whole games! Zelda TP, Wii Sports, and Red Steel, because we simply had to see if a FPS could work on this system. Guess what? It doesn't! You can't make strides in gaming if you don't have better memory, and graphics horsepower! The memory leads to the all important A.I., and graphics lend a huge hand to the immersion factor!

I'll be the first to admit that Zelda TOOT was great and I was completely immersed and invovled in the story, but games ahve changed since mutliple generations ago, so wake up and smell the coffee!!!!

This Wii is nothing but garbage and the only other games that will ever be worth puchasing will once again come from Nintendo. That's roughly 6-8 more games I'm thinkingm before the Wii is totally useless.

Click on the Avatar.

I'm sorry but looking at your profile, did you just rate Sonic 360 AA?

It's supposed to be a joke. I new I should have given it an even higher rating, but you have to read the review!:) I guess my sense of humor was lost on that one.:| Sorry.

That game, like all the others after Sonic Adventure are a total joke!

Secret Rings? :o

And the Wii owners will keep saying Wii games are fun as if games on the other consoles aren't fun.

Well, not only are many of the games on the other consoles fun, they look better and in many cases play better. Why choose to have just "fun" with the Wii when you can have fun, good looking games on the other console?

With the wii-mote, all we have is a conventional controller split in half. That's the innovation for the most part. It's just different -- it hasn't added anything significant to gaming--nothing significant enough to compensate for the Wii's extraordinary weak specs compared to the other systems.

If Nintendo has added anything new to the gaming industry it is that console producers need to always have a gimmick up their sleeves at their console's launch. The console with the best gimmick wins the most casuals, the most sales, and potentially the most profits. Forget about the games--that's secondary. If the Xbox and Playstation survive into the next generation, I wouldn't be surprised if their successors had one or two gimmicks of their own. Lets just home they don't sacrifice anything else.

With a gimmick, you can overcharge causals and some hardcore gamers for your console and games. Casuals won't ask any questions because they don't know any better. The "hardcore" gamers (most of them at least), on the other hand, scare me. They should know better, especially those that have the Wii has their only (or primary) console.

Microsoft and Sony have invested significantly into their consoles to not only bring you fun games, but also epic games. Not only do they give you the consumer this, they are also willing to sell their consoles at a loss with reasonably-priced games. Nintendo, on the other hand, gives you a significantly weak systems, sells it at an unwarranted price and charges you so much for games that should cost way less. It claims that these prices are justified because of the wii-mote, a conventional controller split in half that doesn't add anything major to gaming. And then we get to the games, games that even you Wii owners complain about, games that everyone on here compare to last-gen games instead of next-gen games, games that shouldn't cost $50.

Anyways, you wii supporters claim that the reason people are buying the Wii is because the games are fun. Well, guess what? Games are fun on all consoles, in all gaming generations. Fun games are a common denominator between all consoles. They are a common denominator in the whole industry. What's not a common denominator between gaming generations is the epic-ness of games. To get this difference in epic-ness from generation to generation, you need some major improvements in hardware from all angels. A truely innovative controller could significantly add to this epic-ness. The Xbox 360 and PS3 have delivered this; the Wii not so much.

We already know that games would be fun across all systems. We get fun games every generation. The question we need to ask is the level of epic-ness that this generation offers over the previous generations. Are the games better looking? Are they larger? How involved am I in the game's environment? Is the AI better? Do the games play better? etc. A truely innovative contoller could greatly add to this epic-ness. With the Xbox 360 and PS3, most, if not all these question will be satisfied (there is no doubt). With the Wii, the degree of change is minuscule. Even the change brought about by the Wii-mote is minuscule.

For those who only own a Wii because they think it's better than the other consoles, I need to know, what exactly about the Wii makes it better? If you have $250 to spend on a Wii, why not save up an additional $50 to $100 to buy an Xbox 360. It will defiantly give you a better value for your money. I know you want fun games -- something you'll definitely get on the Xbox 360 -- but don't you want more epic games compared to the previous generation?

[QUOTE="bloodychimp"][QUOTE="Spartanx23"][QUOTE="TacoJelly"]

Hey, I have all the money in the world for gaming but I bought a Wii because it offered something I wanted in gaming... SOMETHING NEW.

If you don't want the games for Wii, than tough, cuz with Wii on a selling spree... nobodies gonna want to develop for 360 or PS3.

And what about games like No more heros? or Disaster? or Battalion Wars? or many of the other games you're simply glossing over? Some of the games you listed for PS3 or 360 are either unproven (example mass effect) or suck (example Motorstorm). So stop speaking like what you say is the gosple.

Spartanx23

So you thought the Wii was going to give you something new in gaming. Hum. What has it given you so far, that the 360 and PS3 havn't? For that matter. What has the Wii given you that the older machines didn't.

Your answer I'm sure will be fun, fun, fun! It's as if you thought you were never having fun with games to begin with. You probably never thought to take the Wii-mote away from the Wii.:|

Do that, and you'll see right through your own argument.

Same games dude. Same games. Games were always fun, and they always will be. You don't need gimmicks to change gaming for the better. Those games you listed need to be pushed by the latest technology in order for them to be fully realized.

If anybody's games are getting the glossed over treatment, it's Nintendo's.

Right back at you. Lets take the GPU out of the 360. We will see right through your argument. The Wii isn't a better way to play games, its just different, and different is good for the industry.

Sticking up for Taco. How nice.:)

If I take out the 360 GPU I'm left with a different console. Correct. If I take the Wii-mote away from the Wii, then I'm left with the same console. True or false?

But I guess if that Wii-mote makes you feel more secure, that's cool.

No, if you took the Wii-remote away from the Wii, you would be left with a shiny white paperweight. I find it hard to play games without some type of control mechanism, but who knows, maybe your psychic powers are just more advanced than mine. :( 

And the Wii owners will keep saying Wii games are fun as if games on the other consoles aren't fun.

Well, not only are many of the games on the other consoles fun, they look better and in many cases play better. Why choose to have just "fun" with the Wii when you can have fun, good looking games on the other console?

With the wii-mote, all we have is a conventional controller split in half. That's the innovation for the most part. It's just different -- it hasn't added anything significant to gaming--nothing significant enough to compensate for the Wii's extraordinary weak specs compared to the other systems.

If Nintendo has added anything new to the gaming industry it is that console producers need to always have a gimmick up their sleeves at their console's launch. The console with the best gimmick wins the most casuals, the most sales, and potentially the most profits. Forget about the games--that's secondary. If the Xbox and Playstation survive into the next generation, I wouldn't be surprised if their successors had one or two gimmicks of their own. Lets just hope they don't sacrifice anything else.

With a gimmick, you can overcharge causals and some hardcore gamers for your console and games. Casuals won't ask any questions because they don't know any better. The "hardcore" gamers (most of them at least), on the other hand, scare me. They should know better, especially those that have the Wii has their only (or primary) console.

Microsoft and Sony have invested significantly into their consoles to not only bring you fun games, but also epic games. Not only do they give you the consumer this, they are also willing to sell their consoles at a loss with reasonably-priced games. Nintendo, on the other hand, gives you a significantly weak systems, sells it at an unwarranted price and charges you so much for games that should cost way less. It claims that these prices are justified because of the wii-mote, a conventional controller split in half that doesn't add anything major to gaming. And then we get to the games, games that even you Wii owners complain about, games that everyone on here compare to last-gen games instead of next-gen games, games that shouldn't cost $50.

Anyways, you wii supporters claim that the reason people are buying the Wii is because the games are fun. Well, guess what? Games are fun on all consoles, in all gaming generations. Fun games are a common denominator between all consoles. They are a common denominator in the whole industry. What's not a common denominator between gaming generations is the epic-ness of games. To get this difference in epic-ness from generation to generation, you need some major improvements in hardware from all angels. The Xbox 360 and PS3 have mostly delivered this; the Wii not so much.

We already know that games would be fun across all systems. We get fun games every generation. The question we need to ask is the level of epic-ness that this generation offers over the previous generations. Are the games better looking? Are they larger? How involved am I in the game's environment? Is the AI better? Do the games play better? etc. A truely innovative contoller could greatly add to this epic-ness. With the Xbox 360 and PS3, most, if not all these question will be satisfied (there is no doubt). With the Wii, the degree of change is minuscule. Even the change brought about by the Wii-mote is minuscule.

For those who only own a Wii because they think it's better than the other consoles, I need to know, what exactly about the Wii makes it better? If you have $250 to spend on a Wii, why not save up an additional $50 to $100 to buy an Xbox 360. It will defiantly give you a better value for your money. I know you want fun games -- something you'll definitely get on the Xbox 360 -- but don't you want more epic games compared to the previous generation?

emawk

Ah nevermind...I'll just start a new thread with this.

[QUOTE="emawk"]

And the Wii owners will keep saying Wii games are fun as if games on the other consoles aren't fun.

Well, not only are many of the games on the other consoles fun, they look better and in many cases play better. Why choose to have just "fun" with the Wii when you can have fun, good looking games on the other console?

With the wii-mote, all we have is a conventional controller split in half. That's the innovation for the most part. It's just different -- it hasn't added anything significant to gaming--nothing significant enough to compensate for the Wii's extraordinary weak specs compared to the other systems.

If Nintendo has added anything new to the gaming industry it is that console producers need to always have a gimmick up their sleeves at their console's launch. The console with the best gimmick wins the most casuals, the most sales, and potentially the most profits. Forget about the games--that's secondary. If the Xbox and Playstation survive into the next generation, I wouldn't be surprised if their successors had one or two gimmicks of their own. Lets just home they don't sacrifice anything else.

With a gimmick, you can overcharge causals and some hardcore gamers for your console and games. Casuals won't ask any questions because they don't know any better. The "hardcore" gamers (most of them at least), on the other hand, scare me. They should know better, especially those that have the Wii has their only (or primary) console.

Microsoft and Sony have invested significantly into their consoles to not only bring you fun games, but also epic games. Not only do they give you the consumer this, they are also willing to sell their consoles at a loss with reasonably-priced games. Nintendo, on the other hand, gives you a significantly weak systems, sells it at an unwarranted price and charges you so much for games that should cost way less. It claims that these prices are justified because of the wii-mote, a conventional controller split in half that doesn't add anything major to gaming. And then we get to the games, games that even you Wii owners complain about, games that everyone on here compare to last-gen games instead of next-gen games, games that shouldn't cost $50.

Anyways, you wii supporters claim that the reason people are buying the Wii is because the games are fun. Well, guess what? Games are fun on all consoles, in all gaming generations. Fun games are a common denominator between all consoles. They are a common denominator in the whole industry. What's not a common denominator between gaming generations is the epic-ness of games. To get this difference in epic-ness from generation to generation, you need some major improvements in hardware from all angels. A truely innovative controller could significantly add to this epic-ness. The Xbox 360 and PS3 have delivered this; the Wii not so much.

We already know that games would be fun across all systems. We get fun games every generation. The question we need to ask is the level of epic-ness that this generation offers over the previous generations. Are the games better looking? Are they larger? How involved am I in the game's environment? Is the AI better? Do the games play better? etc. A truely innovative contoller could greatly add to this epic-ness. With the Xbox 360 and PS3, most, if not all these question will be satisfied (there is no doubt). With the Wii, the degree of change is minuscule. Even the change brought about by the Wii-mote is minuscule.

For those who only own a Wii because they think it's better than the other consoles, I need to know, what exactly about the Wii makes it better? If you have $250 to spend on a Wii, why not save up an additional $50 to $100 to buy an Xbox 360. It will defiantly give you a better value for your money. I know you want fun games -- something you'll definitely get on the Xbox 360 -- but don't you want more epic games compared to the previous generation?

emawk

Ah nevermind...I'll just start a new thread with this.

Oooh goody, more fanboy drivel. Just what we needed. 

[QUOTE="Spartanx23"][QUOTE="TacoJelly"]

Hey, I have all the money in the world for gaming but I bought a Wii because it offered something I wanted in gaming... SOMETHING NEW.

If you don't want the games for Wii, than tough, cuz with Wii on a selling spree... nobodies gonna want to develop for 360 or PS3.

And what about games like No more heros? or Disaster? or Battalion Wars? or many of the other games you're simply glossing over? Some of the games you listed for PS3 or 360 are either unproven (example mass effect) or suck (example Motorstorm). So stop speaking like what you say is the gosple.

bloodychimp

So you thought the Wii was going to give you something new in gaming. Hum. What has it given you so far, that the 360 and PS3 havn't? For that matter. What has the Wii given you that the older machines didn't.

Your answer I'm sure will be fun, fun, fun! It's as if you thought you were never having fun with games to begin with. You probably never thought to take the Wii-mote away from the Wii.:|

Do that, and you'll see right through your own argument.

Same games dude. Same games. Games were always fun, and they always will be. You don't need gimmicks to change gaming for the better. Those games you listed need to be pushed by the latest technology in order for them to be fully realized.

If anybody's games are getting the glossed over treatment, it's Nintendo's.

Right back at you. Lets take the GPU out of the 360. We will see right through your argument. The Wii isn't a better way to play games, its just different, and different is good for the industry. 

I'm not exactly finished. 

You played The Legend Of Zelda right?  The Legend Of Zelda TOOT was a completely amazing game.  It had mood, setting, gameplay, graphics, and it was able to draw you in.  Great game!  It was the raw horsepower of the N64 that made that happen!  The original Zelda will always be one of my favorite games, but games are supposed to evolve and there supposed to be able to draw us in further than before.

But I didn't need some Wii-mote to draw me in!!!!!  We needed better tech!!!

Do you think Mass Effect can be as immersive on the Wii,Gamecube, or Xbox?

You brought up Halo.  Sweet game indeed, but can Halo evolve into a better experience without the 360?

Halo and Zelda were great starts for there franchises, but they evolved and became better.

The Wii cannot take that step.  Mario Galaxy, Metroid 3, and SSBB won't be able to take that step.  The power simply isn't there.

Zelda TP didn't take a leap over ZeldaTOOT, but you can bet that Halo 3 will walk all over Halo when the time comes!

I'm not into gimmicks, and if Nintendo stays on this path, It might take 5 years before I truely experience the next Zelda.:(   

[QUOTE="Spartanx23"][QUOTE="bloodychimp"][QUOTE="Spartanx23"][QUOTE="TacoJelly"]

Hey, I have all the money in the world for gaming but I bought a Wii because it offered something I wanted in gaming... SOMETHING NEW.

If you don't want the games for Wii, than tough, cuz with Wii on a selling spree... nobodies gonna want to develop for 360 or PS3.

And what about games like No more heros? or Disaster? or Battalion Wars? or many of the other games you're simply glossing over? Some of the games you listed for PS3 or 360 are either unproven (example mass effect) or suck (example Motorstorm). So stop speaking like what you say is the gosple.

bloodychimp

So you thought the Wii was going to give you something new in gaming. Hum. What has it given you so far, that the 360 and PS3 havn't? For that matter. What has the Wii given you that the older machines didn't.

Your answer I'm sure will be fun, fun, fun! It's as if you thought you were never having fun with games to begin with. You probably never thought to take the Wii-mote away from the Wii.:|

Do that, and you'll see right through your own argument.

Same games dude. Same games. Games were always fun, and they always will be. You don't need gimmicks to change gaming for the better. Those games you listed need to be pushed by the latest technology in order for them to be fully realized.

If anybody's games are getting the glossed over treatment, it's Nintendo's.

Right back at you. Lets take the GPU out of the 360. We will see right through your argument. The Wii isn't a better way to play games, its just different, and different is good for the industry.

Sticking up for Taco. How nice.:)

If I take out the 360 GPU I'm left with a different console. Correct. If I take the Wii-mote away from the Wii, then I'm left with the same console. True or false?

But I guess if that Wii-mote makes you feel more secure, that's cool.

No, if you took the Wii-remote away from the Wii, you would be left with a shiny white paperweight. I find it hard to play games without some type of control mechanism, but who knows, maybe your psychic powers are just more advanced than mine. :( 

It doesn't surprise me at all that you didn't catch that one.:|

[QUOTE="Spartanx23"][QUOTE="Davis092"][QUOTE="Spartanx23"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Spartanx23"]

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]They're all true gaming machines. The Wii happens to have something different to offer. And I find it very funny how people still use the "Wii has no games!" excuse. But I'm not going to post a long list of games to own you because you'll just ignore it anyway. Nobody says you have to buy a Wii. If you hate it so much, don't buy it. You're not going to sway anyone's judgement with a fanboy rant.Davis092

The Wii just happens to have something different to offer?????? What's different about a Gamecube slaping motion controls onto the same games we played last gen, or for that matter the gen before!

You can honestly tell me that the Wii has games! My brother got his Wii for Christmas and has 3 whole games! Zelda TP, Wii Sports, and Red Steel, because we simply had to see if a FPS could work on this system. Guess what? It doesn't! You can't make strides in gaming if you don't have better memory, and graphics horsepower! The memory leads to the all important A.I., and graphics lend a huge hand to the immersion factor!

I'll be the first to admit that Zelda TOOT was great and I was completely immersed and invovled in the story, but games ahve changed since mutliple generations ago, so wake up and smell the coffee!!!!

This Wii is nothing but garbage and the only other games that will ever be worth puchasing will once again come from Nintendo. That's roughly 6-8 more games I'm thinkingm before the Wii is totally useless.

Click on the Avatar.

I'm sorry but looking at your profile, did you just rate Sonic 360 AA?

It's supposed to be a joke. I new I should have given it an even higher rating, but you have to read the review!:) I guess my sense of humor was lost on that one.:| Sorry.

That game, like all the others after Sonic Adventure are a total joke!

Secret Rings? :o

No! Wait.  Maybe.  On second thought.  No!  But it has nothing to do with the Wii.  Sega just blows lately.

[QUOTE="emawk"][QUOTE="emawk"]

And the Wii owners will keep saying Wii games are fun as if games on the other consoles aren't fun.

Well, not only are many of the games on the other consoles fun, they look better and in many cases play better. Why choose to have just "fun" with the Wii when you can have fun, good looking games on the other console?

With the wii-mote, all we have is a conventional controller split in half. That's the innovation for the most part. It's just different -- it hasn't added anything significant to gaming--nothing significant enough to compensate for the Wii's extraordinary weak specs compared to the other systems.

If Nintendo has added anything new to the gaming industry it is that console producers need to always have a gimmick up their sleeves at their console's launch. The console with the best gimmick wins the most casuals, the most sales, and potentially the most profits. Forget about the games--that's secondary. If the Xbox and Playstation survive into the next generation, I wouldn't be surprised if their successors had one or two gimmicks of their own. Lets just home they don't sacrifice anything else.

With a gimmick, you can overcharge causals and some hardcore gamers for your console and games. Casuals won't ask any questions because they don't know any better. The "hardcore" gamers (most of them at least), on the other hand, scare me. They should know better, especially those that have the Wii has their only (or primary) console.

Microsoft and Sony have invested significantly into their consoles to not only bring you fun games, but also epic games. Not only do they give you the consumer this, they are also willing to sell their consoles at a loss with reasonably-priced games. Nintendo, on the other hand, gives you a significantly weak systems, sells it at an unwarranted price and charges you so much for games that should cost way less. It claims that these prices are justified because of the wii-mote, a conventional controller split in half that doesn't add anything major to gaming. And then we get to the games, games that even you Wii owners complain about, games that everyone on here compare to last-gen games instead of next-gen games, games that shouldn't cost $50.

Anyways, you wii supporters claim that the reason people are buying the Wii is because the games are fun. Well, guess what? Games are fun on all consoles, in all gaming generations. Fun games are a common denominator between all consoles. They are a common denominator in the whole industry. What's not a common denominator between gaming generations is the epic-ness of games. To get this difference in epic-ness from generation to generation, you need some major improvements in hardware from all angels. A truely innovative controller could significantly add to this epic-ness. The Xbox 360 and PS3 have delivered this; the Wii not so much.

We already know that games would be fun across all systems. We get fun games every generation. The question we need to ask is the level of epic-ness that this generation offers over the previous generations. Are the games better looking? Are they larger? How involved am I in the game's environment? Is the AI better? Do the games play better? etc. A truely innovative contoller could greatly add to this epic-ness. With the Xbox 360 and PS3, most, if not all these question will be satisfied (there is no doubt). With the Wii, the degree of change is minuscule. Even the change brought about by the Wii-mote is minuscule.

For those who only own a Wii because they think it's better than the other consoles, I need to know, what exactly about the Wii makes it better? If you have $250 to spend on a Wii, why not save up an additional $50 to $100 to buy an Xbox 360. It will defiantly give you a better value for your money. I know you want fun games -- something you'll definitely get on the Xbox 360 -- but don't you want more epic games compared to the previous generation?

bloodychimp

Ah nevermind...I'll just start a new thread with this.

Oooh goody, more fanboy drivel. Just what we needed.

I guess I'll be seeing you in my thread, since you appear to have some very good counters to my arguments.  

[QUOTE="bloodychimp"][QUOTE="emawk"][QUOTE="emawk"]

And the Wii owners will keep saying Wii games are fun as if games on the other consoles aren't fun.

Well, not only are many of the games on the other consoles fun, they look better and in many cases play better. Why choose to have just "fun" with the Wii when you can have fun, good looking games on the other console?

With the wii-mote, all we have is a conventional controller split in half. That's the innovation for the most part. It's just different -- it hasn't added anything significant to gaming--nothing significant enough to compensate for the Wii's extraordinary weak specs compared to the other systems.

If Nintendo has added anything new to the gaming industry it is that console producers need to always have a gimmick up their sleeves at their console's launch. The console with the best gimmick wins the most casuals, the most sales, and potentially the most profits. Forget about the games--that's secondary. If the Xbox and Playstation survive into the next generation, I wouldn't be surprised if their successors had one or two gimmicks of their own. Lets just home they don't sacrifice anything else.

With a gimmick, you can overcharge causals and some hardcore gamers for your console and games. Casuals won't ask any questions because they don't know any better. The "hardcore" gamers (most of them at least), on the other hand, scare me. They should know better, especially those that have the Wii has their only (or primary) console.

Microsoft and Sony have invested significantly into their consoles to not only bring you fun games, but also epic games. Not only do they give you the consumer this, they are also willing to sell their consoles at a loss with reasonably-priced games. Nintendo, on the other hand, gives you a significantly weak systems, sells it at an unwarranted price and charges you so much for games that should cost way less. It claims that these prices are justified because of the wii-mote, a conventional controller split in half that doesn't add anything major to gaming. And then we get to the games, games that even you Wii owners complain about, games that everyone on here compare to last-gen games instead of next-gen games, games that shouldn't cost $50.

Anyways, you wii supporters claim that the reason people are buying the Wii is because the games are fun. Well, guess what? Games are fun on all consoles, in all gaming generations. Fun games are a common denominator between all consoles. They are a common denominator in the whole industry. What's not a common denominator between gaming generations is the epic-ness of games. To get this difference in epic-ness from generation to generation, you need some major improvements in hardware from all angels. A truely innovative controller could significantly add to this epic-ness. The Xbox 360 and PS3 have delivered this; the Wii not so much.

We already know that games would be fun across all systems. We get fun games every generation. The question we need to ask is the level of epic-ness that this generation offers over the previous generations. Are the games better looking? Are they larger? How involved am I in the game's environment? Is the AI better? Do the games play better? etc. A truely innovative contoller could greatly add to this epic-ness. With the Xbox 360 and PS3, most, if not all these question will be satisfied (there is no doubt). With the Wii, the degree of change is minuscule. Even the change brought about by the Wii-mote is minuscule.

For those who only own a Wii because they think it's better than the other consoles, I need to know, what exactly about the Wii makes it better? If you have $250 to spend on a Wii, why not save up an additional $50 to $100 to buy an Xbox 360. It will defiantly give you a better value for your money. I know you want fun games -- something you'll definitely get on the Xbox 360 -- but don't you want more epic games compared to the previous generation?

emawk

Ah nevermind...I'll just start a new thread with this.

Oooh goody, more fanboy drivel. Just what we needed.

I guess I'll be seeing you in my thread, since you appear to have some very good counters to my arguments.  

They'll just get owned over there, the same as they've been owned over here.:) 

Your reasons for hating the Wii are pathetic at best, it offers plenty which the other two do not where as in all honesty choosing between a PS and an Xbox is now not an easy task.  As you said the HD consoles will come into their own in 2008, they will also likely get price drops by then so using my common sense I have chosen to Wii for now and in the eventuality one HD console stands out above the other and has a fat price drop, in 2008 I may well buy one to go with my Wii. 

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Spartanx23

They'll just get owned over there, the same as they've been owned over here.:)

This Wii craze is making me sick.

Meanwhile nobody wants to pick up a PS3, because it's to expensive.:( Go get a job, and save gaming!

This is system wars, and the PS3 and 360 controll it.

Spartanx23

Believe me you're not owning anyone with these sad, pathetic, elementary school level rants.

I think Nintendo has slapped MS/Sony in the face with the Wii. When it comes down to it, i think consumers have shown tiime and time again that they don't want an all-in-one media center in their living rooms, everything that the 360/PS3 can do a computer can do better, That said...if the PS3 would run Windows, i'd buy it, that'd be a pretty sweet PC, for the price.

I think Nintendo has slapped MS/Sony in the face with the Wii. When it comes down to it, i think consumers have shown tiime and time again that they don't want an all-in-one media center in their living rooms, everything that the 360/PS3 can do a computer can do better, That said...if the PS3 would run Windows, i'd buy it, that'd be a pretty sweet PC, for the price.

VideoGameGuy

Its kinda stupid too how Microsoft makes its own games which nintendo doesnt do,

wergfwefwef

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