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Lol house of the dead 2? hahahahahahahahahahaa
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[QUOTE="Just_in"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Mitazaki

Not for no reason and I like MM more.

What are the Valid reasons TP gets hate?



Majora's mask had 3 transformations, and had a mask thing going on.

Ocarina of time was the first 3-d one.

Wind waker did the ocean sailing, cel-shaded graphics.

TP did nothing radical like that, it is not hard to understand.

plus it was really just the same link vs ganondorf at the end, it was nothing really different about it. sure it was told in a different way and had this and that but at the end is really the same hero and the same villian at it again. dont get me wrong i enjoyed tp alot but its not the best zelda or even in the top 5 but thats just imo

Tp was the most different zelda for the fact that midna was added. Tp is the best zelda followed by WW and the rest I could careless about.

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#153 JuarN18
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who will think that Nintendo doesn't have a big hitter for Xmas time?

o and btw i love when there is a civil war , in system wars

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#154 tramp
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I was a Wii hater untill i seen this post,nowim thinkingabout getting one. Theres some nice looking RPG's in that list, good job!

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#155 SmackMahPanda
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They won't have anything to worry about if all they like are low-quality games...

I betcha half, maybe more of those will get Middle AA at best... Im being generous.

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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Marth6781

Not for no reason and I like MM more.

What are the Valid reasons TP gets hate?

- Linear (Areas and gameplay) - Some delays in attacks - Bad sound from Wiimote speaker - Some easy bosses Great game but no game is perfect. And I don't list what a lot of reviewers do because I disagree but they mention the fact that it doesn't really break away from the main formula in any significant way besides the wolf.

How was TP linear?

I never had delays in attacks

All zeldas have easy bosses.

1. You are led down corridors a lot of the time. Not corridors in the literal sense but closed off tunnels if you will. And the story progression is pretty darn straight forward. 2. Maybe it was the Wii I had 3. And? It actually was a harder Zelda by comparison but still had easy bosses. And this isn't to say it's not a problem for all of them.
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#157 Marth6781
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who will think that Nintendo doesn't have a big hitter for Xmas time?

o and btw i love when there is a civil war , in system wars

JuarN18

lol, the sheep are divided on zelda, but united against the haters.

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#158 Just_in
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[QUOTE="Mitazaki"][QUOTE="Just_in"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Marth6781

Not for no reason and I like MM more.

What are the Valid reasons TP gets hate?



Majora's mask had 3 transformations, and had a mask thing going on.

Ocarina of time was the first 3-d one.

Wind waker did the ocean sailing, cel-shaded graphics.

TP did nothing radical like that, it is not hard to understand.

plus it was really just the same link vs ganondorf at the end, it was nothing really different about it. sure it was told in a different way and had this and that but at the end is really the same hero and the same villian at it again. dont get me wrong i enjoyed tp alot but its not the best zelda or even in the top 5 but thats just imo

Tp was the most different zelda for the fact that midna was added. Tp is the best zelda followed by WW and the rest I could careless about.




You gave crappy reasons for TP being the best, you lose.

You = "They added this character named Midna, I really like her so I think TP is the best Zelda game "

Please.

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#159 JB730
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[QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="V_Isle"][QUOTE="JB730"]

in terms of sales, yeah the wii's 08 software lineup has a good chance of outselling the ps3/360 lineup

but in terms of quality, i doubt it

V_Isle


Uh, no it doesn't. Have you seen even one NPD report lately? GTA IV alone will outsell any Wii title in 2008. Count on it.

wii's the number one selling console

that fact alone gives the wii software lineup a chance to outsell the competition

to deny that would be complete ignorance on your part


The 360 is dominating in software sales. The fact that Halo 3 sold better than 2 on a smaller install base completely invalidates your post, along with the fact that Madden 360 outsold the PS2 version, and we know how huge the PS2 install base is. GTA IV has insane mainstream appeal and a huge hardcore fanbase. It's going to be best selling game of 2008, I have a pretty good feeling about that.

360 does well software-wise when it has a 2-year old lineup and when its almost neck and neck with the wii....this was the case for the latter portion of 2007

but what happens when the wii's lead over the 360 widens worldwide (which we all know will happen)? i don't expect that trend to continue. rarely does the leading console's software lineup get outsold by the competition.

and sure GTA's a killer app software king. but so is wii sports. in fact wii sports has alread outsold EACH AND EVERY GTA game out there. and yes i know its packaged with the wii console. who cares? it still counts as software sold. and that (along with games like wii play and wii fit) are the reasons why i believe wii software will outsell 360 software in 2008. hey i'm trying to argue that this is fair.....i'm just predicting what the numbers on the charts will say at the end of 08.

and lets not forget that smash bros and mario kart are software giants......so yeah i'm pretty confident that the wii's software will outsell its competition in 08.

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#160 Marth6781
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Explain the corridors thing again are you talking about the fact that certain parts were closed off?
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#161 Pangster007
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Yowsers, Zenfolder sure knows how to irk the nerves of Wii haters.

I think Wii's lineup is really good but there could easily be worked up to be better. And i didn't know some of these games existed until now: Eternity's Child, Shiren the Wanderer, Brave, 100 Bullets, Castle of Shikigami III.

P.S. 100 Bullets looks pathetic to me with just that one screenshot.

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#162 Mitazaki
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[QUOTE="Mitazaki"][QUOTE="Just_in"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Marth6781

Not for no reason and I like MM more.

What are the Valid reasons TP gets hate?



Majora's mask had 3 transformations, and had a mask thing going on.

Ocarina of time was the first 3-d one.

Wind waker did the ocean sailing, cel-shaded graphics.

TP did nothing radical like that, it is not hard to understand.

plus it was really just the same link vs ganondorf at the end, it was nothing really different about it. sure it was told in a different way and had this and that but at the end is really the same hero and the same villian at it again. dont get me wrong i enjoyed tp alot but its not the best zelda or even in the top 5 but thats just imo

Tp was the most different zelda for the fact that midna was added. Tp is the best zelda followed by WW and the rest I could careless about.

what cos they added a new character that makes it different, no offence but thats just stupid. the most different zelda is mm. the fact that it has nothing to do with hyrule, the tri force, ganon/ganondorf or even saving prince zelda at all makes it more different that any other zelda game.

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#163 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="Mitazaki"][QUOTE="Just_in"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Just_in

Not for no reason and I like MM more.

What are the Valid reasons TP gets hate?



Majora's mask had 3 transformations, and had a mask thing going on.

Ocarina of time was the first 3-d one.

Wind waker did the ocean sailing, cel-shaded graphics.

TP did nothing radical like that, it is not hard to understand.

plus it was really just the same link vs ganondorf at the end, it was nothing really different about it. sure it was told in a different way and had this and that but at the end is really the same hero and the same villian at it again. dont get me wrong i enjoyed tp alot but its not the best zelda or even in the top 5 but thats just imo

Tp was the most different zelda for the fact that midna was added. Tp is the best zelda followed by WW and the rest I could careless about.




You gave crappy reasons for TP being the best, you lose.

You = "They added this character named Midna, I really like her so I think TP is the best Zelda game "

Please.

And they gave crappy reasons for TP being a bad game.

Fanboism always has two sides.

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MGS4 says other wise:|
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Explain the corridors thing again are you talking about the fact that certain parts were closed off?Marth6781
No, the fact that you would be walking through (example) a forest but only had about 10 feet of walking (side to side) room because of the trees (walls) on either side guiding you down a path. So not corridors in the literal sense but still in the same vein as games go.
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#166 ---OkeyDokey---
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I don't even know how we got into this tangent. Back to the main point: PS3, PC, and 360 have far more promising 2008 line-up's than the Wii. The Wii will lose it's steam(if you can even call it that) before Summer with the big "hitters" already out, meanwhile the PS3 and 360 will pop out AA's and AAA's at a steady rate well into 2009.

And that's the real /thread

V_Isle

regardless of the quality of the wii's 08 lineup, it cannot be denied how much SSBB, mario kart and wiifit are going to sell. the will NOT lose steam with games this big driving harware sales.

withthe 360'sbiggest exclusives next year being banjo kazooie, ninja gaiden 2, halo wars and too human, i'd be much more worried about microsofts console losing steam this year.

in my eyes, the 360 has BY FAR the weakest lineup for 2008.

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#167 Erebyssial
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Sheep fighting eachother over Zelda? Never seen that before o_o.

OoT: Was loved because of the impact it had on adventure games at the time.

WW: Great because it did something different especially the art style.

TP: My favourite because it was huge and had the classical feel of OoT. The wolf hing was pretty cool too.

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Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Marth6781

no it really wasn't a radical change, nor is it the best zelda out now to me. i'm sorry but thats my opinion.

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#169 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="Mitazaki"][QUOTE="Just_in"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Mitazaki

Not for no reason and I like MM more.

What are the Valid reasons TP gets hate?



Majora's mask had 3 transformations, and had a mask thing going on.

Ocarina of time was the first 3-d one.

Wind waker did the ocean sailing, cel-shaded graphics.

TP did nothing radical like that, it is not hard to understand.

plus it was really just the same link vs ganondorf at the end, it was nothing really different about it. sure it was told in a different way and had this and that but at the end is really the same hero and the same villian at it again. dont get me wrong i enjoyed tp alot but its not the best zelda or even in the top 5 but thats just imo

Tp was the most different zelda for the fact that midna was added. Tp is the best zelda followed by WW and the rest I could careless about.

what cos they added a new character that makes it different, no offence but thats just stupid. the most different zelda is mm. the fact that it has nothing to do with hyrule, the tri force, ganon/ganondorf or ever saving prince zelda at all makes it more different that any other zelda game.

Ok, ill give you that one. How does the addition of midna make it stupid? Midna completely changed the game, no Midna you have NO game.

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#170 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.JB730

no it really wasn't a radical change, nor is it the best zelda out now to me. i'm sorry but thats my opinion.

So because you have your opinion I cant have mine?

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[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Explain the corridors thing again are you talking about the fact that certain parts were closed off?Ibacai
No, the fact that you would be walking through (example) a forest but only had about 10 feet of walking (side to side) room because of the trees (walls) on either side guiding you down a path. So not corridors in the literal sense but still in the same vein as games go.

That seems more like personal preference, TP had alot of intresting areas. But as far as side quests go WW has all beat.

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#172 Mitazaki
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[QUOTE="Mitazaki"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="Mitazaki"][QUOTE="Just_in"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Marth6781

Not for no reason and I like MM more.

What are the Valid reasons TP gets hate?



Majora's mask had 3 transformations, and had a mask thing going on.

Ocarina of time was the first 3-d one.

Wind waker did the ocean sailing, cel-shaded graphics.

TP did nothing radical like that, it is not hard to understand.

plus it was really just the same link vs ganondorf at the end, it was nothing really different about it. sure it was told in a different way and had this and that but at the end is really the same hero and the same villian at it again. dont get me wrong i enjoyed tp alot but its not the best zelda or even in the top 5 but thats just imo

Tp was the most different zelda for the fact that midna was added. Tp is the best zelda followed by WW and the rest I could careless about.

what cos they added a new character that makes it different, no offence but thats just stupid. the most different zelda is mm. the fact that it has nothing to do with hyrule, the tri force, ganon/ganondorf or ever saving prince zelda at all makes it more different that any other zelda game.

Ok, ill give you that one. How does the addition of midna make it stupid? Midna completely changed the game, no Midna you have NO game.

no it doesnt make it stupid it makes what you said about it been the most different zelda game stupid:P

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#173 Just_in
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Sheep fighting eachother over Zelda? Never seen that before o_o.

OoT: Was loved because of the impact it had on adventure games at the time.

WW: Great because it did something different especially the art style.

TP: My favourite because it was huge and had the classical feel of OoT. The wolf hing was pretty cool too.

Erebyssial


You must have not played Majora's mask if you think the wolf transformation was impressive.
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#174 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"]

Sheep fighting eachother over Zelda? Never seen that before o_o.

OoT: Was loved because of the impact it had on adventure games at the time.

WW: Great because it did something different especially the art style.

TP: My favourite because it was huge and had the classical feel of OoT. The wolf hing was pretty cool too.

Just_in



You must have not played Majora's mask if you think the wolf transformation was impressive.

I played majoras mask and I thought the wolf transformation was impressive. I really didnt like the masks much, but its all preference.

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#175 JB730
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[QUOTE="JB730"]

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Marth6781

no it really wasn't a radical change, nor is it the best zelda out now to me. i'm sorry but thats my opinion.

So because you have your opinion I cant have mine?

your the one who came out of the wordworks and attacked my opinion first and stated yours as if it were fact.

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[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="Mitazaki"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="Mitazaki"][QUOTE="Just_in"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Mitazaki

Not for no reason and I like MM more.

What are the Valid reasons TP gets hate?



Majora's mask had 3 transformations, and had a mask thing going on.

Ocarina of time was the first 3-d one.

Wind waker did the ocean sailing, cel-shaded graphics.

TP did nothing radical like that, it is not hard to understand.

plus it was really just the same link vs ganondorf at the end, it was nothing really different about it. sure it was told in a different way and had this and that but at the end is really the same hero and the same villian at it again. dont get me wrong i enjoyed tp alot but its not the best zelda or even in the top 5 but thats just imo

Tp was the most different zelda for the fact that midna was added. Tp is the best zelda followed by WW and the rest I could careless about.

what cos they added a new character that makes it different, no offence but thats just stupid. the most different zelda is mm. the fact that it has nothing to do with hyrule, the tri force, ganon/ganondorf or ever saving prince zelda at all makes it more different that any other zelda game.

Ok, ill give you that one. How does the addition of midna make it stupid? Midna completely changed the game, no Midna you have NO game.

no it doesnt make it stupid it makes what you said about it been the most different zelda game stupid:P

Fine ill give you that one.

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#177 JuarN18
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"]

Sheep fighting eachother over Zelda? Never seen that before o_o.

OoT: Was loved because of the impact it had on adventure games at the time.

WW: Great because it did something different especially the art style.

TP: My favourite because it was huge and had the classical feel of OoT. The wolf hing was pretty cool too.

Just_in



You must have not played Majora's mask if you think the wolf transformation was impressive.

i don't like MM THAT much ,but it was a great game and yes it has better transformations than TP

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#178 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="JB730"]

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.JB730

no it really wasn't a radical change, nor is it the best zelda out now to me. i'm sorry but thats my opinion.

So because you have your opinion I cant have mine?

your the one who came out of the wordworks and attacked my opinion first and stated yours as if it were fact.

Umm, well you pretty much dissed TP based on your opinion and tried to state it as fact too.

fanboyism has two sides.

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#179 scoobiesnackarf
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Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law

LOL!!

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#180 wiretoss
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Dunno if anyone has said this but Project O and King's Story are the same game.
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#181 Mitazaki
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tp was a great game and i enjoyed every second of playing it but its the same basic zelda formula as before.

hyrule is in danger from ganon/ganondorf and at same point kidnaps zelda. link must travel to many places in hyrule and fix many problems and grow stronger if he hopes to defeat ganon/ganondorf. he collects new items and weapons on the way to help his quest and later he must use the master sword to defeat ganon/ganondorf and also the tri force also comes into play at some point.

yeah like other zelda games its told in a different way by adding in something new, oot with traveling through time, ww with the open sea etc.

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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"]

Sheep fighting eachother over Zelda? Never seen that before o_o.

OoT: Was loved because of the impact it had on adventure games at the time.

WW: Great because it did something different especially the art style.

TP: My favourite because it was huge and had the classical feel of OoT. The wolf hing was pretty cool too.

Just_in


You must have not played Majora's mask if you think the wolf transformation was impressive.

I played MM and I thought the Wolf transformation was impressive. The wolf was used far more than any of those were and it added tons of new elements to the puzzles. Not that MM didn't but I like the wolf transformation more because it was used the entire game rather than just a section of it. Also asides from OoT TP is my fav Zelda. Why? Because it was the true sequel to OoT. Everything in TP was an improvement, expansion of or entirely new OoT.
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#183 JuarN18
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tp was a great game and i enjoyed every second of playing it but its the same basic zelda formula as before.

hyrule is in danger from ganon/ganondorf and at same point kidnaps zelda. link must travel to many places in hyrule and fix many problems and grow stronger if he hopes to defeat ganon/ganondorf. he collects new items and weapons on the way to help his quest and later he must use the master sword to defeat ganon/ganondorf and also the tri force also comes into play at some point.

yeah like other zelda games its told in a different way by adding in something new, oot with traveling through time, ww with the open sea etc.

Mitazaki

Ganondorf doesn't kidnaps Zelda 0.o , was Zant

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#184 JB730
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[QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="JB730"]

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Marth6781

no it really wasn't a radical change, nor is it the best zelda out now to me. i'm sorry but thats my opinion.

So because you have your opinion I cant have mine?

your the one who came out of the wordworks and attacked my opinion first and stated yours as if it were fact.

Umm, well you pretty much dissed TP based on your opinion and tried to state it as fact too.

fanboyism has two sides.

yeah thats the thing, i stated my opinion

you then attempted to force your opinion on me by telling me that my opinion was wrong lol

seriously, do you really need to try and start an argument over zelda TP's greatness in a thread about the wii's 08 lineup? its off topic and redundant.

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#185 Marth6781
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tp was a great game and i enjoyed every second of playing it but its the same basic zelda formula as before.

hyrule is in danger from ganon/ganondorf and at same point kidnaps zelda. link must travel to many places in hyrule and fix many problems and grow stronger if he hopes to defeat ganon/ganondorf. he collects new items and weapons on the way to help his quest and later he must use the master sword to defeat ganon/ganondorf and also the tri force also comes into play at some point.

yeah like other zelda games its told in a different way by adding in something new, oot with traveling through time, ww with the open sea etc.

Mitazaki

You didnt know ganondorf was even in the game untill about more than half way through. Link traveled places well because midna basically forced him too.

Its a very different zelda, why cant people seem to grasp it.

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#186 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="JB730"]

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.JB730

no it really wasn't a radical change, nor is it the best zelda out now to me. i'm sorry but thats my opinion.

So because you have your opinion I cant have mine?

your the one who came out of the wordworks and attacked my opinion first and stated yours as if it were fact.

Umm, well you pretty much dissed TP based on your opinion and tried to state it as fact too.

fanboyism has two sides.

yeah thats the thing, i stated my opinion

you then attempted to force your opinion on me by telling me that my opinion was wrong lol

seriously, do you really need to try and start an argument over zelda TP's greatness in a thread about the wii's 08 lineup? its off topic and redundant.

but you still tried to state it as fact.

I proved my point that TP is no rehash and different from the other zeldas so I could careless now(unless some one disses it again.)

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#187 Mitazaki
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[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

tp was a great game and i enjoyed every second of playing it but its the same basic zelda formula as before.

hyrule is in danger from ganon/ganondorf and at same point kidnaps zelda. link must travel to many places in hyrule and fix many problems and grow stronger if he hopes to defeat ganon/ganondorf. he collects new items and weapons on the way to help his quest and later he must use the master sword to defeat ganon/ganondorf and also the tri force also comes into play at some point.

yeah like other zelda games its told in a different way by adding in something new, oot with traveling through time, ww with the open sea etc.

Marth6781

You didnt know ganondorf was even in the game untill about more than half way through. Link traveled places well because midna basically forced him too.

Its a very different zelda, why cant people seem to grasp it.

we may have not have known this till much later on but it still doesnt change the fact that it was ganondorf yet again pulling the strings

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#188 Marth6781
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If ganon was in it why is it so bad? I'll admit though that if Zant had been the real enemy that TP's story could have been phenominal.
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#189 Just_in
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[QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="JB730"]

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Marth6781

no it really wasn't a radical change, nor is it the best zelda out now to me. i'm sorry but thats my opinion.

So because you have your opinion I cant have mine?

your the one who came out of the wordworks and attacked my opinion first and stated yours as if it were fact.

Umm, well you pretty much dissed TP based on your opinion and tried to state it as fact too.

fanboyism has two sides.

yeah thats the thing, i stated my opinion

you then attempted to force your opinion on me by telling me that my opinion was wrong lol

seriously, do you really need to try and start an argument over zelda TP's greatness in a thread about the wii's 08 lineup? its off topic and redundant.

but you still tried to state it as fact.

I proved my point that TP is no rehash and different from the other zeldas so I could careless now(unless some one disses it again.)


You didn't prove anything.
"TP is different because of Midna."
"TP is different because they hid the fact that ganondorf was in the game"

Lame.

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#190 JB730
Member since 2004 • 3375 Posts

but you still tried to state it as fact.

I proved my point that TP is no rehash and different from the other zeldas so I could careless now(unless some one disses it again.)

Marth6781

allright i'll agree that zelda tp isn't a complete rehash....and it was a great game that i felt deserved to be AAA

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#191 Mitazaki
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If ganon was in it why is it so bad? I'll admit though that if Zant had been the real enemy that TP's story could have been phenominal.Marth6781

i never said it was bad, as i said before tp is a great game theres just no big differences between this zelda and any other, sure you got zant, midna and the wolf form but lets see. its set in hyrule, zelda gets kidnapped again, the tri force comes in to play at some point, the master sword is used again.

dont get me wrong its a great game but the zelda series needs something different now, no more tri force and zelda been captured. have it set in a different place other than hyrule and give ganondorf a break dont you think hes been beaten up enough already. lol

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#192 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="JB730"]

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Just_in

no it really wasn't a radical change, nor is it the best zelda out now to me. i'm sorry but thats my opinion.

So because you have your opinion I cant have mine?

your the one who came out of the wordworks and attacked my opinion first and stated yours as if it were fact.

Umm, well you pretty much dissed TP based on your opinion and tried to state it as fact too.

fanboyism has two sides.

yeah thats the thing, i stated my opinion

you then attempted to force your opinion on me by telling me that my opinion was wrong lol

seriously, do you really need to try and start an argument over zelda TP's greatness in a thread about the wii's 08 lineup? its off topic and redundant.

but you still tried to state it as fact.

I proved my point that TP is no rehash and different from the other zeldas so I could careless now(unless some one disses it again.)

How is it lame, its like saying Since MM uses masks thats a lame reason for it to be different, even though the masks(midna) were a central game piece. Take the sailing out of windwaker and what do you have? A cell shaded rehash?

take time out of OOT and you have a 5hr. game with a fairy boy.


You didn't prove anything.
"TP is different because of Midna."
"TP is different because they hid the fact that ganondorf was in the game"

Lame.

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#193 Just_in
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[QUOTE="Just_in"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="JB730"]

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Yea it was a "radical" change. Tp gets hate for no reason. TP is the best zelda as of now.Marth6781

no it really wasn't a radical change, nor is it the best zelda out now to me. i'm sorry but thats my opinion.

So because you have your opinion I cant have mine?

your the one who came out of the wordworks and attacked my opinion first and stated yours as if it were fact.

Umm, well you pretty much dissed TP based on your opinion and tried to state it as fact too.

fanboyism has two sides.

yeah thats the thing, i stated my opinion

you then attempted to force your opinion on me by telling me that my opinion was wrong lol

seriously, do you really need to try and start an argument over zelda TP's greatness in a thread about the wii's 08 lineup? its off topic and redundant.

but you still tried to state it as fact.

I proved my point that TP is no rehash and different from the other zeldas so I could careless now(unless some one disses it again.)

How is it lame, its like saying Since MM uses masks thats a lame reason for it to be different, even though the masks(midna) were a central game piece. Take the sailing out of windwaker and what do you have? A cell shaded rehash?

take time out of OOT and you have a 5hr. game with a fairy boy.


You didn't prove anything.
"TP is different because of Midna."
"TP is different because they hid the fact that ganondorf was in the game"

Lame.



Navi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Midna
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#194 Marth6781
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Just_in yor damage control is funny.

You're only saying Navi>>>>>>>>Midna cause I owned you, but its understandable.

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#195 S-lic-K
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.....................................

You are going to tell me that a game with the same story elements, similar gameplay, and overall the same "feel"(apart from WW and TP because of Wii controls...) the game has changed?

Here's the diffrence between why Nintendo rehashes are truly that, NEW versions of the same OLD stuff:

Mario: Mario has basically nothing story-wise, and that's probably for the better. Overall the game has always been the same, collect the stars/coins and fight the big baddies using mario's jump skills, fireballs, bunny ears making him fly, etc. etc. Overall each Mario game just feels the same to me, just with a few twists and possibly a change in gameplay. I have played LOTS of Mario games...

Zelda: Same story as Mario, but luckily this game has a hell of a lot more changes and has always been a good series to me.

Pokemon games: Don't even get me started.

Metriod: Once again this series follows a similar formula.

DO NOT MISTAKE CHANGE IN TECHNOLOGY AS AN ADVANCEMENT IN THE SERIES/ORIGINALITY.

The Wii has quite a few gems, but anything you say about these upcoming games is just speculation. It's funny that the original poster posts a comment similar to "all they can do is inject their opinions"(something like that, being lazy) Yet his original post is just that, an opinion....

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#196 Mitazaki
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well this has gotten way of topic so might aswell push it that bit further lol but Marth6781 thats some pretty cool amvs you got and naruto is such an awesome show cant wait for friday:D oh and i still think this is the best amv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2_A-g6ftrg
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#197 Just_in
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Just_in yor damage control is funny.

You're only saying Navi>>>>>>>>Midna cause I owned you, but its understandable.

Marth6781


I don't get owned by peope who contradicts themselves 50 times in one topic.

And you're obession with Midna is just plain creepy.
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#198 GamerForca
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LOL at the Zelda arguments. My turn:

TP was one of the very worst Zeldas imo. It was great, but not special. You weren't allowed to free roam until REALLY late in the game, unlike in OoT where you could freeroam almost wherever the hell you wanted after the first dungeon. Sure, you could go around a few fields or a town every once in a while after saving it from bugs (which was boring), but that's not fun. TP was easily the most linear Zelda. OoT and WW had epic stories and endings, while TP's was just too rehashed. Fighting on the remains of a giant castle over a pit of lava? Epic. Fighting on a platform with the oceans of the world falling around you? Epic. Fighting in a little circle in the middle of a field? Uhh... no. Sure, the wolf transformation was interesting, but MM transformations owned it. Fierce Diety Link anyone? And TP's music just wasn't as good for its time as the others. There were a few decent tunes (that not being orchestrated hurt), but none had anything on the OoT music. TP was too easy as well. Honestly, I could've gone to take a **** during any of the boss battles and had enough life left to kill it. Maybe some of you just aren't old enough to have played OoT and others when they came out, but OoT is the best imo and I've beaten every single one.

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#199 -sharp-shooter-
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Sorry but about 90% of those extra games you showed look like crap!!!
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#200 DSgamer64
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Spore is on the other consoles too......and PC.

I dont think Wii has the best 2008 AT ALL. In fact I think its worse than 2007....Wii Fit is meh....Brawl and Kart are cool...everything else is an uncertainty. Brawl and Kart certainly dont match up against Galaxy, Prime, RE4, BW2, Super Paper Mario, WW:SM, etc for 2007....

Uptown

GS only have Spore listed for the PC, DS and Wii.