The Witcher 3 Is The Greatest Open World Game Of All Time

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#101  Edited By Juub1990
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

It's actually one of the worst ones ever.

Are you freakin insane? One of the worst ever? Who cares you wrote a shitty 8 pages rant about it. You don't get game of the year awards and universal acclaim by being one of the worst open-world games of all time. You can say it's not one of the best but WTF, one of the worst? 99% of open-world games are way worst than The Witcher 3. Get over yourself.

@charizard1605 How is Skyrim a sandbox?

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#102  Edited By MirkoS77
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@ultimateimp said:

There's a lot of misinformation in your post, the biggest one is that Witcher 3 is an open world game, it isn't. Witcher 3 is as much of an open world as Witcher 2 is. By definition, Witcher 3 is not an open world game, it's a game with multiple areas to explore, specifically 4-5 seperated entirely. It's not even a good game.

Talk about misinformation. There are two separate areas, and huge ones at that: the mainland which encompasses Velen and Novigrad, and the isles of Skelliege which you can freely sail between. But from what else you wrote and edited in, something tells me you already know this and facts aren't your highest priority.

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#103 Juub1990
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@ultimateimp Did you ever play The Witcher 2? If yes then you would know how silly you are for saying it is as opened as The Witcher 3.

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@MirkoS77 said:
@ultimateimp said:

There's a lot of misinformation in your post, the biggest one is that Witcher 3 is an open world game, it isn't. Witcher 3 is as much of an open world as Witcher 2 is. By definition, Witcher 3 is not an open world game, it's a game with multiple areas to explore, specifically 4-5 seperated entirely. It's not even a good game.

Talk about misinformation. There are two separate areas, and huge ones at that: the mainland which encompasses Velen and Novigrad, and the isles of Skelliege which you can freely sail between. But from what else you wrote and edited in, something tells me you already know this and facts aren't your highest priority.

You didn't even mention White Orchard, the beginning area, which leads me to believe you're either an idiot who talks about a game he hasn't played, or worse you're an idiotic blind CDPR fanboy who didn't play the game, but is trying to aggressively defend the game because he's a blind CDPR worshipper. Since I'm the kindest, friendlist and most generous person in this world, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's the former.

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#105  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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I thought Witcher 3 has loading screens where it had to load different zones. Not that it matters, Xenoblade Chronicles is 10 times better and has a way more creative world anyway.

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@Juub1990 said:
@mems_1224 said:

@bobrossperm: personally, I think all open world games are sandboxes but not all games with sandboxes have to be open world. Halo is fairly linear but it has sandbox areas where you can attack in various ways. I think the entire point of an open world game should be to give you a sandbox to play in. Otherwise, why make it open world?

You're wrong. Not all open-world games are sandboxes.

Semantics aside, my entire point is that open world games are about offering the player freedom. Witcher 3 is more Assassins Creed than Skyrim in that regard.

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#107  Edited By UltimateImp
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@mesome713: You were right, Witcher 3 has 5 seperate areas with loading screens inbetween. 2 big maps, 2 medium sized, and one really small map. Doesn't Xenoblade have loading screens? From what I remember there are loading screens when travelling one part of the giant robot to another.

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#108 Juub1990
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@mems_1224 said:

Semantics aside, my entire point is that open world games are about offering the player freedom. Witcher 3 is more Assassins Creed than Skyrim in that regard.

GTA is a sandbox. Just Cause is a sandbox. Crysis is a sandbox. Skyrim and The Witcher 3 are not. I would also argue Skyrim offers more freedom than The Witcher 3.

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#109  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@ultimateimp said:

@mesome713: You were right, Witcher 3 has 5 seperate areas with loading screens inbetween. 2 big maps, 2 medium sized, and one really small map. Doesn't Xenoblade have loading screens? From what I remember there are loading screens when travelling one part of the giant robot to another.

Yeah, Xenoblade feels very open, but its far from it. I guess Witcher 3 is just close enough to being open world.

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#110 UltimateImp
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@mesome713 said:
@ultimateimp said:

@mesome713: You were right, Witcher 3 has 5 seperate areas with loading screens inbetween. 2 big maps, 2 medium sized, and one really small map. Doesn't Xenoblade have loading screens? From what I remember there are loading screens when travelling one part of the giant robot to another.

Yeah, Xenoblade feels very open, but its far from it. I guess Witcher 3 is just close enough to being open world.

TC has a very loose definition and grasp of what open world means, but to my knowledge. The only open world games of 2015 are Fallout 4, and Xenoblade X. The best one is obviously going to be Xenoblade X.

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@ultimateimp: Yeah, i cant wait for Xenoblade Chronicles X, im still trying to talk my brother into getting it and playing with me, hes still playing MGSV, Super Mario Maker and Fallout 4.

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#112 sayyy-gaa
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can't really speak on TW3 as I haven't played it...the best open world game I've played thus far is RDR. Still haven't taken the plunge on next gen yet.

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#113  Edited By MirkoS77
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@ultimateimp said:
@MirkoS77 said:
@ultimateimp said:

There's a lot of misinformation in your post, the biggest one is that Witcher 3 is an open world game, it isn't. Witcher 3 is as much of an open world as Witcher 2 is. By definition, Witcher 3 is not an open world game, it's a game with multiple areas to explore, specifically 4-5 seperated entirely. It's not even a good game.

Talk about misinformation. There are two separate areas, and huge ones at that: the mainland which encompasses Velen and Novigrad, and the isles of Skelliege which you can freely sail between. But from what else you wrote and edited in, something tells me you already know this and facts aren't your highest priority.

You didn't even mention White Orchard, the beginning area, which leads me to believe you're either an idiot who talks about a game he hasn't played, or worse you're an idiotic blind CDPR fanboy who didn't play the game, but is trying to aggressively defend the game because he's a blind CDPR worshipper. Since I'm the kindest, friendlist and most generous person in this world, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's the former.

What, a tutorial area that you never need to go back to after you've left it? I'd hardly qualify that as part of the main game-world, as give me one single reason to go back to that area once completed in the early hours of play. But OK, you apparently being such a sweetheart, let my generous side come through in turn and grant you that third. I'm not sure what math you've taken, but that doesn't equate to 4-5. But something tells me you're going to cite, what.......Kaer Morhen and the Royal Palace? The funny thing is, you're obviously dumb enough to argue that areas such as these being separated by loading screens is enough to claim the rest of the game isn't open world. If you weren't going to mention these, then what makes 5? By your brilliant logic, Skyrim's not an open world either as many things (such as doors) necessitates loading screens.

What a crock of shit.

But let us get onto some of your other complaints (lest we remain misinformed) to see how true they really are: "The areas seem to be populated by the same copy pasted tree", and "bandits have all the same design".

Right, I rest my case. I'm not an idiotic blind fanboy, I'm just a person with little tolerance for people who spew flat-out bullshit.

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@ultimateimp said:

There's a lot of misinformation in your post, the biggest one is that Witcher 3 is an open world game, it isn't. Witcher 3 is as much of an open world as Witcher 2 or Halo 5 are. By definition, Witcher 3 is not an open world game, it's a game with multiple areas to explore, specifically 4-5 seperated entirely.

It's not even a good game. The areas seem to be populated by the same copy pasted tree, every moving object has the same running animations, no seperate animations for men and women, same 3-5 houses populating the cities, all bandits have the same design, same sex animation for all romance interests, embarrassing romantic relationships, 2D foilage in a 3D world, terrible combat and a single swing to win animation for attacks as well as floaty movements and much MUCH more including narrative inconsistencies and terrible story padding. The gameplay is specially bad, and universally panned, despite it being the component you'll spend 50+ hours doing, it's the worst of the entire package.

Geralt is not a legendary warrior, or hunter. He's everyone's bitch, he's the bitch everyone keeps on verbally abusing as he does their errands for. He's the Legendary Errand Boy.

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@MirkoS77 said:
@ultimateimp said:
@MirkoS77 said:
@ultimateimp said:

There's a lot of misinformation in your post, the biggest one is that Witcher 3 is an open world game, it isn't. Witcher 3 is as much of an open world as Witcher 2 is. By definition, Witcher 3 is not an open world game, it's a game with multiple areas to explore, specifically 4-5 seperated entirely. It's not even a good game.

Talk about misinformation. There are two separate areas, and huge ones at that: the mainland which encompasses Velen and Novigrad, and the isles of Skelliege which you can freely sail between. But from what else you wrote and edited in, something tells me you already know this and facts aren't your highest priority.

You didn't even mention White Orchard, the beginning area, which leads me to believe you're either an idiot who talks about a game he hasn't played, or worse you're an idiotic blind CDPR fanboy who didn't play the game, but is trying to aggressively defend the game because he's a blind CDPR worshipper. Since I'm the kindest, friendlist and most generous person in this world, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's the former.

What, a tutorial area that you never need to go back to after you've left it? I'd hardly qualify that as part of the main game-world, as give me one single reason to go back to that area once completed in the early hours of play. But OK, you apparently being such a sweetheart, let my generous side come through in turn and grant you that third. I'm not sure what math you've taken, but that doesn't equate to 4-5. But something tells me you're going to cite, what.......Kaer Morhen and the Royal Palace? The funny thing is, you're obviously dumb enough to argue that areas such as these being separated by loading screens is enough to claim the rest of the game isn't open world. If you weren't going to mention these, then what makes 5? By your brilliant logic, Skyrim's not an open world either as many things (such as doors) necessitates loading screens.

What a crock of shit.

But let us get onto some of your other complaints (lest we remain misinformed) to see how true they really are: "The areas seem to be populated by the same copy pasted tree", and "bandits have all the same design".

Right, I rest my case. I'm not an idiotic blind fanboy, I'm just a person with little tolerance for people who spew flat-out bullshit.

Just to throw you with some cheese.

The development budget for The Witcher 3 was $80 million. That's below average.

Only a very few other developers stand a chance to come relatively close to such an achievement.

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I actually agree and its made the list of RPG's I'll play more than once.

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@sts106mat said:
@mjorh said:

Hell yeah.

Majority of those who disagree just like to do random shit , spend their time killing ppl on the streets and walk through a shallow and hollow world like Skyrim , what's the point?! TW3 gives you purpose and story , CDPR is not a lazy dev like Bethesda.

to feel like you can escape to another world and feel immersed there. that is a lot harder to do with a fixed character and story. that is entirely the reason i play videogames.

not everyone needs a big drawn out story like TW3 in order to enjoy and get a lot out of the game.

The witchers world is restrictive in a lot of ways that worlds like skyrim and fallout are not.

I haven't played the witcher 3... yet. I kind of put it on hold since you can't sneak and because I really disliked the witcher 2 & 3.

From what I've seen up until now it looks good but i doubt it will top fallout 4 lol

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#118  Edited By UltimateImp
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@MirkoS77 said:
@ultimateimp said:
@MirkoS77 said:
@ultimateimp said:

There's a lot of misinformation in your post, the biggest one is that Witcher 3 is an open world game, it isn't. Witcher 3 is as much of an open world as Witcher 2 is. By definition, Witcher 3 is not an open world game, it's a game with multiple areas to explore, specifically 4-5 seperated entirely. It's not even a good game.

Talk about misinformation. There are two separate areas, and huge ones at that: the mainland which encompasses Velen and Novigrad, and the isles of Skelliege which you can freely sail between. But from what else you wrote and edited in, something tells me you already know this and facts aren't your highest priority.

You didn't even mention White Orchard, the beginning area, which leads me to believe you're either an idiot who talks about a game he hasn't played, or worse you're an idiotic blind CDPR fanboy who didn't play the game, but is trying to aggressively defend the game because he's a blind CDPR worshipper. Since I'm the kindest, friendlist and most generous person in this world, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's the former.

What, a tutorial area that you never need to go back to after you've left it? I'd hardly qualify that as part of the main game-world, as give me one single reason to go back to that area once completed in the early hours of play. But OK, you apparently being such a sweetheart, let my generous side come through in turn and grant you that third. I'm not sure what math you've taken, but that doesn't equate to 4-5. But something tells me you're going to cite, what.......Kaer Morhen and the Royal Palace? The funny thing is, you're obviously dumb enough to argue that areas such as these being separated by loading screens is enough to claim the rest of the game isn't open world. If you weren't going to mention these, then what makes 5? By your brilliant logic, Skyrim's not an open world either as many things (such as doors) necessitates loading screens.

What a crock of shit.

But let us get onto some of your other complaints (lest we remain misinformed) to see how true they really are: "The areas seem to be populated by the same copy pasted tree", and "bandits have all the same design".

Right, I rest my case. I'm not an idiotic blind fanboy, I'm just a person with little tolerance for people who spew flat-out bullshit.

I was wrong, it was neither. Not only are you a blind worshipper of CDPR, you're an idiot who has the intelligence that rivals that of a chimpanzee with down syndrome. Not only did you prove my points, by naming the maps individually, you also used PR shots to prove I was "wrong" without realizing that they prove my points.

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Objectively speaking, GTAV is the greatest one, content and quality wise. Even though I'm sick of it to death.

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I loved W3, it's crazy amount of content, and its memorable cast. I'm not going to belittle such an enjoyable game, but I'd take GTA V over it in a heartbeat and I'd bet Fallout 4 finishes ahead too, if my past experience with recent Bethesda games and my early impressions of FO4 are anything to go by. Great game, but I enjoy those more.

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#121 UltimateImp
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@commander said:
@sts106mat said:
@mjorh said:

Hell yeah.

Majority of those who disagree just like to do random shit , spend their time killing ppl on the streets and walk through a shallow and hollow world like Skyrim , what's the point?! TW3 gives you purpose and story , CDPR is not a lazy dev like Bethesda.

to feel like you can escape to another world and feel immersed there. that is a lot harder to do with a fixed character and story. that is entirely the reason i play videogames.

not everyone needs a big drawn out story like TW3 in order to enjoy and get a lot out of the game.

The witchers world is restrictive in a lot of ways that worlds like skyrim and fallout are not.

I haven't played the witcher 3... yet. I kind of put it on hold since you can't sneak and because I really disliked the witcher 2 & 3.

From what I've seen up until now it looks good but i doubt it will top fallout 4 lol

You're not missing anything, it's the same shit. But slightly bigger maps, and bigger problems.

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#122 Epak_
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Known this for a while now.

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@Orchid87 said:

Objectively speaking, GTAV is the greatest one, content and quality wise. Even though I'm sick of it to death.

  1. Objective
  2. Greatest

Pick one. I think you could learn something from this,

http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/factsopinions.html

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Mario 64 is the best open world game ever made. No game has incorporated open ended, player interpreted gameplay like Mario 64 has. All these recent open world games, when gameplay is at its core, are very stripped down, linear, and two dimensional.

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@Heirren said:

Mario 64 is the best open world game ever made. No game has incorporated open ended, player interpreted gameplay like Mario 64 has. All these recent open world games, when gameplay is at its core, are very stripped down, linear, and two dimensional.

Although I think your definition of an open world game is bullshit, I can see where you're coming from when talking about Mario 64's gameplay. Mechanically I think only Super Metroid compares.

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@ultimateimp: haters are gonna hate

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No. GTA5 and Skyrim are better. Fallout 4 is way better.

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@Juub1990 said:

You don't get game of the year awards and universal acclaim by being one of the worst open-world games of all time. You can say it's not one of the best but WTF, one of the worst?

Yes you do, yes you absolutely do lol

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Preaching to the choir dude

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#130 jg4xchamp
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@mems_1224 said:

@charizard1605: there is no such thing as open world games and sandbox games. They're the same thing.

Not true.


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@Juub1990: What would you call Skyrim, then?

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I don't have a problem with that statement

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I'd agree with the OP. I don't get people saying the exploration isn't that good in W3, i think you need to be more deliberate about exploring since the GPS will take you on certain routes but if you head off to random areas you will pretty much always find cool stuff. If you want emergent stuff, go playing Arma mods/Dayz (just not standalone, that version sucks).

I think one thing that makes direct comparisons to Skyrim a bit iffy is that Witcher 3 has you playing as a character with a pre-determine personality/backstory etc. so you don't have total freedom, since that wouldn't make sense from a narrative perspective.

I feel like Witcher 3 is in another league compared to Bethesda's last few games, only joined by Red Read Redemption and GTA V. I'm always amazed by the blind love that Skyrim gets, it is a very flawed game and imo Bethesda's weakest. Its world just feels hollow and dead to me, despite being pretty. Witcher 3's strong narrative gives the open world new context and gives further meaning to exploration, Skyrim's narrative is like a series of face palm moments one after the other. I never even found the exploration that rewarding (Fallout 4 fixed this thank god).

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@jg4xchamp: sure but what he's arguing is the same thing. Witcher 3 and skyrim are essentially the same type of game. He's not comparing Witcher to deus ex or blood money, hes comparing two open world rpgs and he's trying to create genres to fit his argument. Video game genres are stupid enough

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@mems_1224 said:

@jg4xchamp: sure but what he's arguing is the same thing. Witcher 3 and skyrim are essentially the same type of game. He's not comparing Witcher to deus ex or blood money, hes comparing two open world rpgs and he's trying to create genres to fit his argument. Video game genres are stupid enough

I mean, it's chaz.

The Witcher 3 is his new epiphany of the month game. Give it some time, the next one will be like Deus ex or Uncharted lol

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@jg4xchamp said:
@mems_1224 said:

@jg4xchamp: sure but what he's arguing is the same thing. Witcher 3 and skyrim are essentially the same type of game. He's not comparing Witcher to deus ex or blood money, hes comparing two open world rpgs and he's trying to create genres to fit his argument. Video game genres are stupid enough

I mean, it's chaz.

The Witcher 3 is his new epiphany of the month game. Give it some time, the next one will be like Deus ex or Uncharted lol

I have him on PSN, he plays Destiny more than he does Witcher 3.

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I agree with you here. This is the first time that i finished an open world game and i started a 2nd playthrough immediately ( in fact now i am doing my 3rd playthrough ). Believable world , excellent story and side quests, some of the most intriguing characters in a video game ( bloody baron is better than anything bioware or bathesda ever created ) , amazing OST and probably the best monsters on an RPG i have ever faced

The biggest problem with the game it is the lack of content and challenge ( even on the hardest difficulty ) after you reach level 30+ ( thankfully thanks to free DLC's it is somewhat fixed )

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#138  Edited By Maroxad
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@charizard1605 said:

@Juub1990: What would you call Skyrim, then?

Not him, but I am sure he will agree with what I say.

Open world. Some also would call games like Skyrim (and Fallout 4) Themeparks. With each dungeon being a ride for you to experience.

There is little to no emergent gameplay in Skyrim. Compare that to actual sandboxes such as X3, Dwarf Fortress, Crusader Kings, Europa Universalis, Mount and Blade, EVE Online, Rimworld, Minecraft.

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#139  Edited By jg4xchamp
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@ultimateimp said:
@jg4xchamp said:

I mean, it's chaz.

The Witcher 3 is his new epiphany of the month game. Give it some time, the next one will be like Deus ex or Uncharted lol

I have him on PSN, he plays Destiny more than he does Witcher 3.

scum of the earth that one.

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#140 Bigboi500
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You spelled New Vegas wrong.

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#141 MANd0n
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Alright let me clear the air here. *ahem*

The Witcher series is based off a well established series of books and it follows the lore and story of said books. So before you bitch about the Witcher 3 not giving you enough freedom - let me emphasize something for you. It isn't supposed to. You are Geralt of Rivia - you're continuing the story of a well established character in polish literature, not creating your own character and telling your own story. I swear every time a game has an open world everyone has to compare it to fucking Skyrim. Apples and oranges - completely different games entirely.

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#142 ReadingRainbow4
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@with_teeth26 said:

I'd agree with the OP. I don't get people saying the exploration isn't that good in W3, i think you need to be more deliberate about exploring since the GPS will take you on certain routes but if you head off to random areas you will pretty much always find cool stuff. If you want emergent stuff, go playing Arma mods/Dayz (just not standalone, that version sucks).

I think one thing that makes direct comparisons to Skyrim a bit iffy is that Witcher 3 has you playing as a character with a pre-determine personality/backstory etc. so you don't have total freedom, since that wouldn't make sense from a narrative perspective.

I feel like Witcher 3 is in another league compared to Bethesda's last few games, only joined by Red Read Redemption and GTA V. I'm always amazed by the blind love that Skyrim gets, it is a very flawed game and imo Bethesda's weakest. Its world just feels hollow and dead to me, despite being pretty. Witcher 3's strong narrative gives the open world new context and gives further meaning to exploration, Skyrim's narrative is like a series of face palm moments one after the other. I never even found the exploration that rewarding (Fallout 4 fixed this thank god).

Aye, Skyrim was awful. It's amazing there's a few in here that find it to have better writing and lore when that aspect of it was absolute trash.

I guess some people just love trash.

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#143  Edited By lastcoin
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Red dead redemption.

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#144 Thunderdrone
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Skyrim captured the feel of awe inspiring wilderness much, much better.

And to whoever said Witcher 3 has better lore than TES..... I want what you're smoking.

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#145 Thunderdrone
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I am sad to say that I am also dissapointed in W3's OST.

Skyrim shits all over it its not even funny. Streets of Whiterun alone injects more feels, atmosphere and immersion in that game than everything in W3 combined. Also Geralt's voice actor is GARBAGE!

W3 is a good game though.

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#146 texasgoldrush
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@Thunderdrone said:

I am sad to say that I am also dissapointed in W3's OST.

Skyrim shits all over it its not even funny. Streets of Whiterun alone injects more feels, atmosphere and immersion in that game than everything in W3 combined. Also Geralt's voice actor is GARBAGE!

W3 is a good game though.

But Witcher 3 shits all over Skyrim in storytelling and role playing.

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#147 Thunderdrone
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@texasgoldrush said:
@Thunderdrone said:

I am sad to say that I am also dissapointed in W3's OST.

Skyrim shits all over it its not even funny. Streets of Whiterun alone injects more feels, atmosphere and immersion in that game than everything in W3 combined. Also Geralt's voice actor is GARBAGE!

W3 is a good game though.

But Witcher 3 shits all over Skyrim in storytelling and role playing.

Which makes it even more sad when I'm not even half as immersed as I was when exploring the icy tundras or vampire castles in Skyrim.

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@acp_45 said:
@texasgoldrush said:
@acp_45 said:
@texasgoldrush said:

The Witcher has BETTER lore, lets put it that way.

Its not random setting shit, it builds the thematic nature of its universe. TES does not do that.

What are you saying?

Better lore. How?

Lore is a thematic build up of any universe.

TES lore has been building up since the late 90s. It's extremely interconnected.

It's so much richer than The Witcher 3. Simply because it has more. There is no such thing as better lore. And it's not random setting.....This proves that you don't know at all....

Skyrim held artifacts, daedric princes, aedric gods and so much more..... that you can read about in the previous games and that have recorded lore that date ages back in the TES history. It's ridiculously rich...too the point where it's funny to read your comment.

Whenever you explore the dwemer ruins you are busy with a part of the lore that already played out in one of the first games of the series. You are left with an entire race's ruins that vanished off the face of Tamriel...and if you read the lore...exploring those ruins will have more actual meaning and impact.

This isn't a competition here. Go read some of the lore. I'd recommend you read it if you like lore aspects of gaming. It's probably one of the best you'll get in gaming.

The Witcher 3 is a brilliant game don't get me wrong. It's story is so much more intriguing than Skyrim's without a doubt. I play The Witcher 3 for it's story. I play Skyrim for it's lore and how it stacks a bunch of more stories on to that foundation making it richer.

Very different focuses here.

Just because it has more doesn't mean its better. In fact TES lore is quite broad. TW lore is focused. That's the difference.

TW lore serves its story much better than TES's does.

TES lore is broad as it is focused. Look I don't want to argue with you about why TES's lore beats TW's. Just go read the damn stuff. You're just spouting a bunch of nonsense now.

TW lore doesn't serve it's story well at all. The Witcher 3's story is self maintained and would do absolutely fine without any lore at all.

The Witcher 3 never had a focus on it's lore. You're comparing a some pretty ridiculously outscaled things here. Go read TES lore to an idea.

Have you ever played the last 2 Witcher games, or even read the official books? The story for the Witcher is much greater! CD Projekt RED did a great job trying to keep the games feel like the sequel to the books and stayed true to the canon, even though the original Author doesn't consider them canon. Find me a plot of the ES series that is as engaging as the Bloody Baron quest. Because the ES lore is quite a forgettable story.

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#149 MirkoS77
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@acp_45: true. Amazing anyway you look at it.

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#150 chocolate1325
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Debate but Warcraft or Skyrim are in there too.