The Witcher 3 Sales : Xbox vs PS4 vs PC

@davillain-: It's alright. These things happen. We all have our days. :)

@tryit: I own an Xbox One but my PC is better than my Xbox One. That's why I buy multi-platform games for my PC.

I dont have a console.

I would think you should not either given your buying pattern. so why do you have a console?

@tryit: I bought the Xbox One first. My brother owned one and to play games online with him, I opted for it also. :P

I tried really hard to get him to go for PS4 instead but he wanted to stick with Microsoft systems as all his friends from 360 had a One. I enjoyed it for a while but it became increasingly limiting that more and more games I wanted to play weren't available on the platform like Street Fighter V, Nier Automata and Nioh. I had a choice to either purchase a PS4 or build a new PC. I decided to build a new PC since I had already amassed a library on Steam and GOG on my old, albeit dated PC. :)

The Xbox One still has some benefits, especially in backwards compatibility and the ability to play Xbox OG games. I rarely use it though. I pretty much only buy games for PC and Switch now.

ok fair enough.

in my mind console focused games are very easy to spot, they absoutly have a different play and a different feel from PC focused games.

people try to pretend like there isnt a difference but there is and its fairly obvious to those with experience.

which is why I dont understand playing console focused games on a PC. which is also why I am not remotely surprised that the sales figures would reflect that.

I think you might be an exception instead of the rule.

Some of us buy consoles to play exclusive games, have lots of friends on consoles then on PC, and there are people out there that aren't/don't want to game on PC.

My PS4 is the main console I have in the house, I use it for exclusive games, lots of friends on PSN, and I use it's Blu-Ray/media apps when I like to take a break from gaming and stuff like that. My PC is the true ultimate gaming experience. There are times I'll buy PC & console versions of a game and that depends on the game itself. My Switch is just a bonus to take when I'm on the road, so that's very helpful.

Edit: I like to point out I'm a gamer first & foremost, despite I'm more of a PC gamer.

@tryit: I mean PS4 has outsold the PC version by 1% so I'm not sure it is a glaring difference when we factor out the Xbox One version.

I understand what you are saying, but the reason why someone might choose The Witcher 3 on PC over PS4 is not that it is a console focused game, but that it simply plays better on PC regardless of this fact. It will run at a higher frame-rate with more improved visuals, and openness to modding features also. Regardless which platform the game was designed in mind for, the PC version is still a better option for those with a PC. There's no benefit to buying it on PS4 or Xbox One if you have a gaming PC.

actually I heard that is not the case.

I hear that it actually IS a console focused game and that the game play is actually better with a controller.

anyway, I dont know how I can express in ways that can be understood that console focused games play VERY different from PC focused games.

I guess I have too much experience for this conversation? i dont know

Wouldnt say the game plays better with controller to be honest, Ive played with both methods and ended up liking mouse and keyboard more because of faster sign/item use and more convenient menus

@tryit: I just plug my xbox one controller into my PC for games like Nioh and Witcher 3. :)

It''s the exact same. Xinput means that the prompts are all Xbox button prompts too.

sacrilege!!

@tryit: I think it works by magic transported through the cable or something! :O

Multi platform games for the win.

so basically you are trying to suggest you like console games but because consoles themselves are so crappy you play console games like a console on a PC.

I dont believe it, but I have to accept it as your answer

1. The jump from 60 to 30 fps is considerably far more jarring and noticeable than not having HDR. It isn't even close. Not having this hurts more than not having HDR. By far. Making Logan's initial theory false.

2. 4K, 60fps, better GFX settings > visuals than HDR. And lets not even get into gfx mods. DF only said XB1X version is best CONSOLE version. The PC version is the best version, like 95% of multiplatform titles (aka most video games).

"For our money, the 4K mode on Xbox One X gives the smoothest, best-looking take on The Witcher 3 outside of the PC space."

Again. This isn't even including mods. PC version is objectively better with or without them. But considering mods do exist, we'll just go ahead and use them and say there is zero question that this video game is factually far better on PC. Like nearly every video game in existence.

3. Console's limited hotkeys ruins combat. Constantly pausing the game, meh. This is just my opinion though.

They're baiting I think. I hope.

@tryit: That's basically it, and I also like PC games too. I loved Divinity: Original Sin 2.

@zaryia: All you have proven to me is you never played the game in HDR. Everything else you posted is an opinion.

Why don't Xbox gamers actually buy games?

The only thing that matters is the experience, and the experience of playing this game on PC blows all others away. Playing this game on consoles is an affront to the hard work that went into making it.

lol

Most of my gamer friends migrated to PC once they graduated from school and got stable incomes. I just patiently waited for them.

Modded Witcher 3 absolutely obliterates the consoles, even with your HDR.

No. The X1X version is the next best thing, and that's second only to max settings on a PC at 4K at 60 FPS or higher. I say that because X1X can do lower resolution @ 60 FPS.

As opposed to your contrarian opinion that HDR > 4k/highersettings/60fps? The 30 to 60 fps difference is not subjective. It's objectively superior and easily noticeable. As is resolution and graphics settings. Those 3 are overall a large difference compared to HDR. I've played and seen both, the PC version is leaps and bounds better.

Even DF said it clearly. It's only the best console version.

Oh and, mods exist. Your entire argument is null.

@zaryia: DF also said the technique used to achieve 4k is not much different then native. XB1X Actually hits native 4k and the PS4 pro isnt far from it either. So the IQ difference is minimal. Its doubtful you have seen the game on a HDR display.

I've played both. The PC version is the better experience, by far. You aren't overcoming 30 to 60 fps difference on top of 4k and several higher graphical settings with just one setting (HDR). That's stupid.

Which is why DF said it isn't better than PC.

Oh and mods kill any argument you may have potentially have.

Good for CDPR. Their games should sell well as they are one of the most respectable devs out there. Hope CP2077 performs the same or even better!

TW3 even officially supports DS4 on PC. If you plug in a DS4 controller, the in-game UI changes to match DS4 buttons.

The best Version for the price is the...... Xbox One X.

Oh and no HDR on the PC version.

I think the release of the enhanced patch for Pro and X1X in 2017 is another reason it sold more in 2017.

PS4 does better initially, while PC does better long term. Xbox hardly sells. The chart demonstrates what we already knew. PC and PS4 are the main platforms. XB1 is a failed console and an afterthought.

Naw, PC easily. 60+ FPS, higher settings, mods, none of the shitty input lag that the consoles have... It's the definitive version and therefore worth the money.

This is why I'll always say that Microsoft has an easier time when they flop over Nintendo (despite people thinking they are unfairly criticized). Even the Wii, best selling console of the gen, couldn't get half the support that the Xbox One, flopping, is getting. Even when Microsoft flops, they get decent third party support. Nintendo can be successful, yet their third party support is limited.

CD Projekt doesn't really have an excuse to gimp Cyberpunk 2077 on PC now like they did with the Witcher 3 believing console sales would absolutely dominate. Now that we see PC had the second most sales not too far behind the PS4 in its first year and then surpasses it the second year. Xbox One sales are pretty pathetic when you consider they had partnered with Microsoft to advertise the game for Xbox One.

They should make Cyberpunk 2077 as a appealing as possible on PC since they can easily make the most money there if it doesn't sell the most units initially since a lot of people bought The Witcher 3 through GOG at launch. About half the sales of it on PC were through GOG so about 700k copies at and I'm certain its at least 2 or 3 million copies sold on GOG by now.

PC gamers since at least the 80s have been using input devices other than a mouse and keyboard to play games. How else could we properly play things such as racing sims, flight sims, space sims and mech sims without steering wheels, joysticks and HOTAS.

I think it's more like this: " ****! Another new feature I'm supposed to put money on and I just bought this expensive 144Hz monitor with **** contrast! Better just belittle the technology until I can save up enough money to buy a HDR 144Hz monitor!"

@UssjTrunks: Really? I didn't know that. That's very cool.

It would be nice since the Switch Pro controller is also very easy to use with PC, that the same support appeared in future.

Whatever helps you sleep at night,

@MBirdy88: So I was right lul.

Console sales are front loaded. PC sales are long term.

Was you really though?

Colour becomes a non-issue incredibly fast, it has next to no effect on gameplay whatsoever. (I can argue this with resolutions like 4k as well, but plebs will pretend it matters all the same... when they are seated 6 feet infront of their sub 70inch tvs)

I listened to that Geoveiola guy, and tested the Gears of War side by side comparison ... I thought "oh the rays are abit brighter, and the fire is abit brighter" .... every single netflix HDR show looks "Alittle" brighter in the areas. gotta laugh at the Ironfist implementation "Oh look his hand glows abit more" WHOA.

It's not like I don't have the option already, which is always the hilarious point on this forum... god forbid someone has a 4K TV (HDR 1000, highly reviewed one) and a 2K Ultrawide Monitor at 120hz (IPS, pleanty damn colourful enough) with G-Sync (Because there is next to no advantage of having frigging 4k 2 feet infront of my face) and decide that the far smoother and wider FOV (and the ability for higher settings and mods) far outweighs "ooo slightly brighter areas on the Screen!! MMMMM"

It's funny when I use to have both PC and TV next to eachother, with every new itteration colour would become better on the next purchase.... and then that realisation sinks in and you think "Who f*cking cares? my eyes stop noticing this after 5 minutes unless they are side by side".

HDR and 4K - TV Manufacturers "We arn't really sure where to go next, so hears more increments.... advertised as something bigger!"

"Better just belittle the technology until..."

Either your set is crap, or you prefer crushed blacks and color banding for some odd reason, it's not just brightness you know... I've been gawking at HDR stuff since I upgraded my TV, even if I'd build a PC I would never hook it up to some crappy 8bit IPS panel with a 1500:1 native contrast.

"I bought this and only this, therefore I must justify this over every other alternative until...."

We can play this game all day, and you can pretend that suddenly 8 bit IPS panels are "horrid" (again, in an area where HDR content is incredibly limited currently AND colour is probably the most basic-b*tch incremental upgrade you can get, with the least overall effect... beyond insane resolution at close proximity) but lets be more practical about the situation difference here:

Consoles HDR

• HDR - 95-99% of games don't support it yet, it is not a requirement or a standard.
• HDR - Wildly different quality, many TV's just slapping it on to sell to you chumps
• Still capped at 60FPS
• Still standard FoV
• Sacrificed graphics and performance for 4k resolutiosn that barely anyone on this board REALLY benefits from, and they will probably argue blindly against any written research on the subject.
• no graphical enhancements through modifications
• no Free/Gsync availability

PC Gaming - Non HDR adoption (Which again, is only a temporary advantage.)

• Ultrawide - Who knows how many games are supported, but many are, more and more get patched all the time, and with a few exceptions most new games adopt it as a standard.
• supporting up to 120-240 FPS pending - works in all games
• supporting G-Sync-Freesynch - Works in all games
• Modifcations - Work in most games
• higher game settings - available for most higher end games.
• HDR - Borked on Windows OS - Not many games support it, but again, neither do consoles.

But but "mah brightness and blacks pop alittle more!!! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!"

After a decent VA panel (not to talk about OLED) IPS panels are pretty damn horrid, other than bad viewing angles VA panels destroy IPS panels in contrast. OLEDs really don't have issues with viewing angles + infinite contrast.

You obviously don't care about that stuff and I don't care about gaming on a small monitor, even if the games ran at a 200 fps.

Ignoring the VA comments because lol.

But anyway, "tiny Monitor" ... do you have any concept of field or vision? I gotta ask this... because I don't think you do.

I'm glad you understand this is subjective. But objectively, the multiple benefits of the PC version outweigh the minor HDR benefits, and that isn't even including mods. Which is why DF said it wasn't better than PC.

Add in mods, and it isn't even close.

Factually, Witcher 3 is better played on PC for the time being. Better gfx and better performance. Like a majority of video games.

@MBirdy88: Someone bought a 4k tv with an IPS panel and calls HDR a gimmick lol.

Haha, either you can't read or your blatantly out of things to complain about, my monitor is IPS.

I believe the TV is KS8000k something (EU)

Failed to answer my question too..... it almost as if your screen size and resolution only heavily depend on your distance from said device! who would of thought?

65 inch tv? nobody cares... a 35 inch ultrawide fills more of your vision and far better to concentrate on.

Same, I tried controller for a bit and thought keyboard and mouse was way more intuitive.

And, with The Witcher 3, you don't even need mods to increase graphical fidelity by a ton. You can just edit the .ini file for insane foliage improvement.

And then, there's this...

@DragonfireXZ95 said:

@MBirdy88 said:

@Epak_ said:

@MBirdy88 said:

@Epak_ said:

"Better just belittle the technology until..."

Either your set is crap, or you prefer crushed blacks and color banding for some odd reason, it's not just brightness you know... I've been gawking at HDR stuff since I upgraded my TV, even if I'd build a PC I would never hook it up to some crappy 8bit IPS panel with a 1500:1 native contrast.

"I bought this and only this, therefore I must justify this over every other alternative until...."

We can play this game all day, and you can pretend that suddenly 8 bit IPS panels are "horrid" (again, in an area where HDR content is incredibly limited currently AND colour is probably the most basic-b*tch incremental upgrade you can get, with the least overall effect... beyond insane resolution at close proximity) but lets be more practical about the situation difference here:

Consoles HDR

• HDR - 95-99% of games don't support it yet, it is not a requirement or a standard.
• Still capped at 60FPS
• Still standard FoV
• Sacrificed graphics and performance for 4k resolutiosn that barely anyone on this board REALLY benefits from, and they will probably argue blindly against any written research on the subject.
• no graphical enhancements through modifications
• no Free/Gsync availability

PC Gaming - Non HDR adoption (Which again, is only a temporary advantage.)

• Ultrawide - Who knows how many games are supported, but many are, more and more get patched all the time, and with a few exceptions most new games adopt it as a standard.
• supporting up to 120-240 FPS pending - works in all games
• supporting G-Sync-Freesynch - Works in all games
• Modifcations - Work in most games
• higher game settings - available for most higher end games.
• HDR - Borked on Windows OS - Not many games support it, but again, neither do consoles.

But but "mah brightness and blacks pop alittle more!!! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!"

After a decent VA panel (not to talk about OLED) IPS panels are pretty damn horrid, other than bad viewing angles VA panels destroy IPS panels in contrast. OLEDs really don't have issues with viewing angles + infinite contrast.

You obviously don't care about that stuff and I don't care about gaming on a small monitor, even if the games ran at a 200 fps.

Ignoring the VA comments because lol.

But anyway, "tiny Monitor" ... do you have any concept of field or vision? I gotta ask this... because I don't think you do.

And, with The Witcher 3, you don't even need mods to increase graphical fidelity by a ton. You can just edit the .ini file for insane foliage improvement.

And then, there's this...

But the sunlight and shadows on that foiliage, is it like 30% brighter/darker? IF not.... no deal sorry! /s