Did you just say a $399 console can make same awesome graphic as herms overpriced PC's with SLI Titan ?:o:lol:
PC gamers wasting money again :cry:
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="clyde46"] I just find it strange that Nvidia is letting AMD powered consoles use its GPU accelerated PhyX technology yet actively go out of their way to screw over AMD GPU owners on the PC.consoletrollIt'll run on the CPU. There is no fvcking way PhysX will be running on an AMD GPU. AMD GPU's don't support CUDA. BOOM!! HEADSHOT!!! jk :) - HAVOC is also CPU bound(owned by INTEL). The only ones that will run on all gpu are bullet and tressfx. Havok runs on GPU via OpenCL. Intel supports OpenCL
PS4 has minor advantages over X1 i.e. ~0.600 TFLOPS gap. 7970 GE has major advantages over PS4 i.e. ~2.46 TFLOPS gap. 7950 BE has major advantages over PS4 i.e.~1.47 TFLOPS gap.Same thing we hear from every developer ever. The reality is different story.
Ps4 will have significant advantages technically from the Xbox, then PC will still have advantages over the PS4 version.
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Did you just say a $399 console can make same awesome graphic as herms overpriced PC's with SLI Titan ?:o:lol:
PC gamers wasting money again :cry:
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yea cause most have titan right? :lol:
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PC gamers wasting money again :cry:
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This is what happens when you earn a decent wage. It's pretty awsome really. Not aure how that equals an insult.
You guys remember when they also said TW2 on the 360 was the best version?....don't let the PR talk fool you. what they're doing is telling console owners that the game wont look like a watered down port. lawlessx
Bingo! Saying "The console evrsions will look worse than the PC version" isn't good for business
[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]I just find it strange that Nvidia is letting AMD powered consoles use its GPU accelerated PhyX technology yet actively go out of their way to screw over AMD GPU owners on the PC. It'll run on the CPU. There is no fvcking way PhysX will be running on an AMD GPU. AMD GPU's don't support CUDA. They don't have to use CUDA, they could port it to OpenCL or something; it's not as if this technology is impossible to run on AMD hardware, it's just that NV doesn't like sharing.http://www.stuff.tv/playstation-4/update-nvidia-physx-and-apex-graphics-come-ps4/news
Thats because it scales the effects back on 7 year old hardware. The PS4 shouldnt have any problem
faizan_faizan
I'm sure NV would make more money licensing their software, than limiting it by hardware, and since the whole console market is AMD, they probably should consider trying to be relevant somehow.
I don't really see why NV's so obsessed with keeping their toys to them selves, I can't imagine "PhysX" really has much pull with the ignorant or fanboy consumers; the fanboys will just find something else to cling to, and the ignorant will just not know what the hell's going on. The more knowledgeable consumers aren't likely to pick up the GPU's for their gimmicks, there are some legitimate advantages and disadvantages to each brand.
It'll run on the CPU. There is no fvcking way PhysX will be running on an AMD GPU. AMD GPU's don't support CUDA. They don't have to use CUDA, they could port it to OpenCL or something; it's not as if this technology is impossible to run on AMD hardware, it's just that NV doesn't like sharing.[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="clyde46"] I just find it strange that Nvidia is letting AMD powered consoles use its GPU accelerated PhyX technology yet actively go out of their way to screw over AMD GPU owners on the PC.Inconsistancy
I'm sure NV would make more money licensing their software, than limiting it by hardware, and since the whole console market is AMD, they probably should consider trying to be relevant somehow.
The whole discussion is surrounded by this. How much of a possiblity is there that they will port it to OpenCL or DirectCompute?
So 1080p at 30FPS then?clyde46
Yeah, they said it will be 30fps on consoles, which we know will really be more like 20 to 30fps.
But, still, I'm sure there will be very few cutbacks to the core graphical elements. The PC version will surely have some visual advantages and definitely performance advantages, but the real advantage for me is being able to play all the mods that will be made with the toolset they are releasing alongside the game.
You guys remember when they also said TW2 on the 360 was the best version?....don't let the PR talk fool you. what they're doing is telling console owners that the game wont look like a watered down port. lawlessx
Yep. The Witcher 2 went through some real overhaul in order to have it looking semi-decent on the 360. CDPR put effort into their ports, but that doesn't mean they'll be identical.
well as i said on the previous generation developers make these games "better" on pc to make you loudmouth pc fans happy cause youll cry on the internet if they dont but all the while youll never be able to run killzone shadow fall or even killzone 2 and 3 or any other ps3/4 exclusive at a higher spec than ps3 and 4 so sad123Sippi
So what? Those games are pretty mediocre. You'll never be able to play The Witcher 2, Halo 4, Alan Wake, or Total War Shogun 2 Â on your PS3/PS4, and those are much better games. So sad.
[QUOTE="123Sippi"]well as i said on the previous generation developers make these games "better" on pc to make you loudmouth pc fans happy cause youll cry on the internet if they dont but all the while youll never be able to run killzone shadow fall or even killzone 2 and 3 or any other ps3/4 exclusive at a higher spec than ps3 and 4 so sadkalipekona
So what? Those games are pretty mediocre. You'll never be able to play The Witcher 2, Halo 4, Alan Wake, or Total War Shogun 2 Â on your PS3/PS4, and those are much better games. So sad.
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So true, the only reason Sony fanboys take any vested interest in Killzone is because they beleive it to be visually impressive. Take that away and you have Call Of Duty. That can't be said for actual good games like Crysis, Witcher 2 or Shogun 2, It's sad really. :<
It's funny people fall for this. Devs almost always say this. I remember when the Ghostbuster developers claimed all versions were identical and then we find there are significant differences.
Same goes for all the developers claiming that XB1, PS4 and PC versions of next gen games will all look the same. It's PR talk. There will be differences, both between the PS4 and XB1 versions and between console and PC.
When you consider that CDPR is a small developer looking to branch out to consoles, you shouldn't expect them to come out and say "The PC version will be the definitive version of TW3." They want their game to sell well across the XB1, PS4, and PC and thus the PR job is going to be about touting the console versions as much as possible.I love how we cherry pick when to believe and not believe what develoeprs are saying.Â
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Everyone knows that the PC versions will still be inherently better.Â
I love how we cherry pick when to believe and not believe what develoeprs are saying.Â
15strong
It's about having the critical thinking skills to know the kind of things developers will lie about and the kinds of things they normally can be trusted about.
Platform parity is one of those things they fudge on for PR reasons.
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[QUOTE="123Sippi"]well as i said on the previous generation developers make these games "better" on pc to make you loudmouth pc fans happy cause youll cry on the internet if they dont but all the while youll never be able to run killzone shadow fall or even killzone 2 and 3 or any other ps3/4 exclusive at a higher spec than ps3 and 4 so saduninspiredcup
So what? Those games are pretty mediocre. You'll never be able to play The Witcher 2, Halo 4, Alan Wake, or Total War Shogun 2 Â on your PS3/PS4, and those are much better games. So sad.
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So true, the only reason Sony fanboys take any vested interest in Killzone is because they beleive it to be visually impressive. Take that away and you have Call Of Duty. That can't be said for actual good games like Crysis, Witcher 2 or Shogun 2, It's sad really. :<
ive seen everything there is on pc and i still think killzone shadowfall is the best looking game[QUOTE="123Sippi"]i bet the internet would be a ghost town of pc fanboys if sony annouced at gamescom that ps4 is actually upgradeable it would be hillariouslundy86_4
I doubt it. It would be  drastically  less customizable. A huge advantage for the PC.
less customizable ok im sure you know this[QUOTE="lundy86_4"][QUOTE="123Sippi"]i bet the internet would be a ghost town of pc fanboys if sony annouced at gamescom that ps4 is actually upgradeable it would be hillarious123Sippi
I doubt it. It would be  drastically  less customizable. A huge advantage for the PC.
less customizable ok im sure you know thiswhy would they make it upgradeable?
[QUOTE="123Sippi"]less customizable ok im sure you know thislundy86_4
Are you saying the OS would  also  be more open than Windows? Can we all live in your fantasy world? Hell, you already made one hypothetical... What if Sony ended world hunger?
so whose alt is this? Â
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[QUOTE="123Sippi"]less customizable ok im sure you know thislostrib
Are you saying the OS would  also  be more open than Windows? Can we all live in your fantasy world? Hell, you already made one hypothetical... What if Sony ended world hunger?
so whose alt is this? Â
TBH, i'm drawing a blank :?
i bet the internet would be a ghost town of pc fanboys if sony annouced at gamescom that ps4 is actually upgradeable it would be hillarious123Sippiyeah because they are going to invest millions of dollars on a APU so you can upgraded it later :roll: get off the internet please.
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Are you saying the OS would  also  be more open than Windows? Can we all live in your fantasy world? Hell, you already made one hypothetical... What if Sony ended world hunger?
lundy86_4
so whose alt is this? Â
TBH, i'm drawing a blank :?
hmmm, a troll that isn't an (ban dodging) alt. Unheard of in these parts
30 fps =/= 60 fps, access to higher textures pack =/= console textures,better AF,better AA, 1080p =/= 1200, 1600 or above on PC..so it won't be equal.wow pc gamers are really mad that a game can be on equal footing as the pc version.
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Yes, it will be on par with the PC version, like Skyrim was, mods don't exist do they. 1080p @ 60 fps doesn't exist does it? Etc etc.
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Love how consolites don't care about graphics, then suddenly everytime they think there's a glimmer of hope for them to at last match PC graphics, they try to claim some sort of victory. You'd think that after getting owned generation after generation they'd learn...
30 fps =/= 60 fps, access to higher textures pack =/= console textures,better AF,better AA, 1080p =/= 1200, 1600 or above on PC..so it won't be equal. this guy is mad[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]
wow pc gamers are really mad that a game can be on equal footing as the pc version.
Tessellation
[QUOTE="Tessellation"]30 fps =/= 60 fps, access to higher textures pack =/= console textures,better AF,better AA, 1080p =/= 1200, 1600 or above on PC..so it won't be equal. this guy is mad[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]
wow pc gamers are really mad that a game can be on equal footing as the pc version.
Chris_Williams
nah, he didnt use any caps or curse words
tl;dr
watch dogs > witcher 3
Liquid_
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One third of watchdogs will be a tutorial, the rest of the game will have no challange what so ever. Exactly like Asshole Creed. and Splinter Cell: Use To Be Good.
[QUOTE="Tessellation"]30 fps =/= 60 fps, access to higher textures pack =/= console textures,better AF,better AA, 1080p =/= 1200, 1600 or above on PC..so it won't be equal. this guy is mad i think you're mad since you can't counter those facts :cool: now cry more.[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]
wow pc gamers are really mad that a game can be on equal footing as the pc version.
Chris_Williams
[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] 30 fps =/= 60 fps, access to higher textures pack =/= console textures,better AF,better AA, 1080p =/= 1200, 1600 or above on PC..so it won't be equal.Tessellationthis guy is mad i think you're mad since you can't counter those facts :cool: now cry more. i'm getting this on pc I just think its funny some people act like they are special because they game on pc
[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] this guy is madChris_Williamsi think you're mad since you can't counter those facts :cool: now cry more. i'm getting this on pc I just think its funny some people act like they are special because they game on pc
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You sound jelly.
i'm getting this on pc I just think its funny some people act like they are special because they game on pc[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] i think you're mad since you can't counter those facts :cool: now cry more.uninspiredcup
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You sound jelly.
hmmmmm jelly[QUOTE="Liquid_"]
tl;dr
watch dogs > witcher 3
uninspiredcup
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One third of watchdogs will be a tutorial, the rest of the game will have no challange what so ever. Exactly like Asshole Creed. and Splinter Cell: Use To Be Good.
worst assumption. not only will it have a kickass single player, but the multiplayer exceeds the replay value of anything witcher could provide with its stale, predictable single player storyline.[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"][QUOTE="Liquid_"]
tl;dr
watch dogs > witcher 3
Liquid_
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One third of watchdogs will be a tutorial, the rest of the game will have no challange what so ever. Exactly like Asshole Creed. and Splinter Cell: Use To Be Good.
worst assumption. not only will it have a kickass single player, but the multiplayer exceeds the replay value of anything witcher could provide with its stale, predictable single player storyline.you must not know much about the witcher series
[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"][QUOTE="Liquid_"]
tl;dr
watch dogs > witcher 3
Liquid_
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One third of watchdogs will be a tutorial, the rest of the game will have no challange what so ever. Exactly like Asshole Creed. and Splinter Cell: Use To Be Good.
worst assumption. not only will it have a kickass single player, but the multiplayer exceeds the replay value of anything witcher could provide with its stale, predictable single player storyline.So you guys have played these games?
worst assumption. not only will it have a kickass single player, but the multiplayer exceeds the replay value of anything witcher could provide with its stale, predictable single player storyline.[QUOTE="Liquid_"][QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]
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One third of watchdogs will be a tutorial, the rest of the game will have no challange what so ever. Exactly like Asshole Creed. and Splinter Cell: Use To Be Good.
lawlessx
you must not know much about the witcher series
you must know about the watch dog series...oh wait nvmPlease Log In to post.
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