The xboxone is trampling all over the ps4

@commander: I hate to burst your bubble here TC but we already knew about those games plus ark isn't exclusive. While I'm excited as much as the next person it wasn't a good show as they basically showed nothing new besides halo wars 2 which I have no interest in. KI season 3 interests me but that isn't till 2016. I can't believe you are boasting about the xbone cpu too when it's literally the same as the ps4 cpu with a slight clock bump that means nothing. It still has the weaker gpu. It seems the cycle will continue where Microsoft pumps out exclusives at the beginning of the gen then Sony pumps out exclusives at the second half of the gen. That's basically what happened with the PS3 and 360.

lol, dem edits

oh ok let me change that

Lol at all the butthurt cows in this thread.

Whenever your argument against better games is "bbut sales!!!", you've already lost the argument.

My phone presses enter b4 i want many times and sucks for this site.

I was discussing a system in system wars forums.

You discuss me in every post.

In terms of what? Games, yeah the Microsoft lineup for 2015-2016 looks better than Sony's but if Microsoft could switch places, have the Xbox One outselling the PS4 and the PS4 have a better game lineup, they would in a heart beat, because sales is really what matters to these 2 more than anything else, just not to the consumer

So you're saying i should go and flag all your fanboy posts? I'm still not clear on that part

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....

So what they have on and what are they offering.?

They have been a drought of games if it wasn't for rare collections it would be 10 months without an actual 80+ exclusive,is quite pathetic.

For the 100 time Phill Spencer was part of that screw up in fact he was on that conference saying TV TV TV as well,Matrick was just the victim who took the force of the blow and they use the less abuse face of Phill to try to make seen like he was saving everything,this was known inside MS and those decisions were no Mattick alone to make i am sure higher than him approve it.

The only victim here is you, getting run over by the Xbox hype train.

@lostrib:

so, again, what upcoming game are you excited about?

@delta3074: Yes it was ore popukar ecenter lat gen. Xbox 360 had already sold 10 million units when the PS3 released. That means PS3 outsold the 360 during the time they competed against each other. And that was with PS3 being a disaster when it launched.

Xbox having a bad launch has led to a total ass whipping globally despire launching almost simultaneously.

PlayStation is so far ahead of Xbox worldwide as brand it's laughable. Xbox is a regional product.

Well they tried to make a solid effort last gen to get popular in Japan by overloading the 360 with JRPG's including 2 from Sakaguchi and getting Star Ocean exclusive for a while, and still little success, I don't blame MS for writing Japan off as a lost cause, there's literally nothing they can do outside of giving the damn thing away for free to a foothold in that region.

Okay, leaving aside the stupid fanboy rhetoric and difference in opinion, this one is actually, quantifiably wrong.

Yet the Ps3 took 8 years to catch up and they still ended up neck and Neck at the end of the last gen and they still are now so it's obvious that neither was preferred over the other, hence, the Playstation is NOT always preferred over the Xbox.

You basically called the other guy an idiot for not believing something that wasn't true in the first place.

Bottom line, you are wrong,the Playstation has not ALWAYS been more preferred than the Xbox

MS 2016 lineup doesnt look better than Sonys. You have games from established Top Devs coming exclusively to PS4 in 2016, what makes you think that MS 2016 lineup is better?

Because Sony's 2016 lineup includes Uncahrted (which as stale as shit) Horizon (made by a developer that's batting 1-5) and....that's all I can think of right now unless you have some other games, there's SFV which is the only thing noteworthy in their 2016 lineup.

what makes gears of war, forza and Halo games less stale than Uncharted? You also have new IPs like Dreams, you have the Last Guardian, Ratchet and Clank and Horizon which looks interesting. Not to mention all the exclusive Japanese games ps4 will have. MS has Halo wars2, gears of war, crackdown 3(which plays the same like the other titles in the franchise btw) so I dont know why you dont use the same argument against that

Those games are stale (any long running series is inevitably going to become stale regardless of what changes are being made) at the very least Halo 5 is actually adding new mechanics and modes to the game, increasing the player count by 50% for Warzone, squad based co op just like Republic Commando (which is IMO the best Star Wars along Jedi Academy) huge sandbox levels (which Halo 4 was devoid of) , multiple routes, destructible environments. There's also incentive to replay the game because character interactions and story bits change depending on how you play it. Not going to lie, 343 doesn't exactly scream confidence at this point (although Halo 4 was still a damn good game but not Halo quality we had for so many years) but at the very least it sounds promising ,and Halo 5 is most likely do or die for them if they ever want Halo to be taken seriously again or if it'll fall into the same league as COD or even below like Halo 4 was.

On the other hand Uncharted is adding a grappling hook which looks situational, and a Jeep which according to Bruce Strayley is a set piece, probably use to fool people into thinking it's an open world game. I can kind of respect the fact that 343 is at least making the effort to push Halo forward (weather it excels of crashes and burns, will see) but Naughty Dog seems to put more effort into their presentation than actually making Uncharted...a fun game? Can't speak for Gears 4 since we've barely seen any of it, although the E3 presentation was kind of meh, same with Forza although racing games usually add new cars, tracks and features, there's really nothing else to add to them, I actually enjoyed Forza Horizon 2 better than main Forza since they added a zombie/infection mode which was fun as hell, and the game had amazing presentation, it's kind of silly to compare it to an action game.

Ratchet and Clank, looks fun, I'll probably get it since R/C is one of the few Playstation franchises I still enjoy, it'll probably be a budget title just like Into the Nexus was, but it's still more of the same and nothing to write home about, I have no idea what Dreams is, Media Molecule is pretty hit and miss, Little Big Planet was garbage but Teraway was excellent so will see how that turns out. Last Guardian, if you're into that thing, game looks boring to me but I know people love Ico and Shadow of the Colossus, nice that they finally have a release date but will see if it actually comes out and doesn't get delayed.

Horizon, yeah....I really want to look at this game in a positive light but it's hard to be excited when you see "Guerrilla Games" under it, and their less than stellar track record, n their 10+ years as a developer they've made one really good game, one decent game and a bunch of mediocre one's.

Yeah sorry, nothing here screams "amazing lineup" I understand it's subjective and some people may pop an erection for the PS4's lineup, Good for them

What has been your favorite XBone exclusive this year so far?

Nice careful choice of words lol.

ok, i'll bite.. Yes, the Xbox One has had a "sparse" 2015 so far..

But lets not forget what came before Spring 2015.. Holiday 2014.. And in terms of well-reviewed flagship titles that couldn't be played on the competing console, the Xbox One had two huge titles with tons of replay value and online play in Forza Horizon 2 and Sunset Overdrive while the PS4 had two huge flops in Driveclub and LittleBigPlanet 3.. So please forgive Xbox One gamers if they weren't staring at their calendar, marking off the days until Spring 2015 like you were.. And even then, PS4 gamers still had to endure one more flop out of the Sony first-party camp in The Order 1886 before they finally got their hands on Bloodborne.

So in the past year, the score is 2-0 for Xbox One in Holiday 2014 and 1-0 for PS4 in Spring 2015.. Not exactly a landslide victory there bud.. As a matter of fact, all mathematical principles would call that a loss..

So, now what?.. You still going to cling to this tired argument all the way up until Forza Motorsports 6 launches?.. Followed up by Halo 5, Fable Legends, and Rise of the Tomb Raider?.. because once you're done beating that dead horse, it looks like it's gonna be another Holiday season of you staring at your calendar, marking off the days until Spring 2016.. Only this time, Microsoft has huge exclusive titles in that time frame as well..

@Antwan3K: That's basically it in a nutshell. I've been playing FH2 off and on all year, as it's a game with good enough replay value to last that long, unlike DC.

I've spent more time than I probably should doing speed runs on Ori and the blind Forest, Played some MCC, along with some State of Decay. Lately I've been playing quite a bit of Elite Dangerous.

While not all of those are strictly exclusive to the XB1, that's ok... That's the great thing about it. It has something for everyone, even if some of those are on pc, none of them are on the PS4.

A the moment i'm playing fifa ultimate team with legends (exclusive xbox), world of tanks (xbox/pc), magic duels (xbox/pc/ios)

None of this can be played on the ps4.

Is that it? I wouldn't mind buying the console, but it's gonna take more than that...

Wonder how many 360s ended up replacing RRoD 360s....that inflates sales. And yes...that did happen.

'Inflates sales'

to a very small degree,yes, but it was a small degree, most people had there consoles replaced under the 3 year warranty Because in Sept 2008 Xbox released the Jasper model 360 and Failure rates plummeted to below 5% Even if you bought on day of launch you would have had a jasper replacement under your 3 year warranty which mean s that very few people would have actually gone out and Re bought a 360 unless there launch console failed outside of the 3 years.

'Fortunately, SquareTrade found that Xbox 360 quality has improved dramatically since the third quarter of 2008, shortly before the 65nm CPU/GPU "Jasper" model was introduced. Since then, first-year failure rates have plummeted to below the 4 percent the company projected. Looking at 500 units purchased in 2009, SquareTrade found that less than 1 percent had suffered the Red Ring of Death.'

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-360-failure-rate-237-ps3-10-wii-27-study/1100-6216691/

Nice joke thread.

@commander said:

Yes after what we've seen today we can only conclude one thing, the ps4 isn't nowhere near the value that the xboxone has to offer.

- more promising exclusives (scalebound, quantum break, crackdown 3, forza 6, fifa legends)

- more innovation with pheriperals like hololens and kinect.

- backwards compatiblity for all free games with gold and more.

- better framerates and smoother gameplay than the powerpoint station 4 because of the faster cpu and more cpu resources.

- better controller

- windows 10

A little word of advice, if you use the car to go to your work or go on holiday, be carefull that you don't drive into them... car damages can be expensive.

PS4 10.7 million ahead of X1 in sales. PS4 is trampling over the X1. All your stuff you brag about is meaningless. The PS4 is a better console! PS4 23.8 million sold. X1 13.1 million sold.

Also Ori and the Blind Forest expansion got announced, it just keeps getting better and better :D

Thank you Uncle Phil

If they get a few more exclusives under their belt, then they will be trampling. So far, things are looking much better for them. I really want to try out that elite controller.

As a lover of jrpgs Sony got them beat. But if they could get Lost Odyssey 2 or an exclusive Valkyria Chronicles from sega.....