These BULLSHOTS are sickening!

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[QUOTE="delta3074"]"Cinema mode also includes a photo option, which is again, extremely cool. You can freeze the scene, adjust the camera to wherever you want, push the button and a high quality JPEG is dumped onto the photos area of the PS3 XMB, where you can view it later, copy it off to flash drive, and upload it to the internet. Various post-processing effects can be added if that's your bag, but you can also get a plain and simple framebuffer dump too, which allows us to finally resolve an age-old debate... " http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-uncharted-article?page=2 as you can clearly see, the problem with uncharted 2 is that the people that play it can create there own bullshots and post them to the internet, so pictures uploaded using UC2's photo option should be taken with a pinch of salt UC2 is a fantastic looking game, but it is not as good looking as some of the insane bullshots i have seen posted on the internet. there is also another factor, unlike the 360 with it's hardware upscaler, the Ps3 uses a software upscaler, it's not very good at upscaling to 1080p, so if you force 1080p the game can look worse than it is supposed to be in my opinion killzone 2 is the console graphics king, but we all know which game is the real graphics king don't we?

They really wouldn't be bullshots though because its still all running realtime and its nothing extreme just camera adjustments or lighting which could be if dev wanted it that way. here is a default pic i just took only turned the cam and maybe zoomed a bit.
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]"Cinema mode also includes a photo option, which is again, extremely cool. You can freeze the scene, adjust the camera to wherever you want, push the button and a high quality JPEG is dumped onto the photos area of the PS3 XMB, where you can view it later, copy it off to flash drive, and upload it to the internet. Various post-processing effects can be added if that's your bag, but you can also get a plain and simple framebuffer dump too, which allows us to finally resolve an age-old debate... " http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-uncharted-article?page=2 as you can clearly see, the problem with uncharted 2 is that the people that play it can create there own bullshots and post them to the internet, so pictures uploaded using UC2's photo option should be taken with a pinch of salt UC2 is a fantastic looking game, but it is not as good looking as some of the insane bullshots i have seen posted on the internet. there is also another factor, unlike the 360 with it's hardware upscaler, the Ps3 uses a software upscaler, it's not very good at upscaling to 1080p, so if you force 1080p the game can look worse than it is supposed to be in my opinion killzone 2 is the console graphics king, but we all know which game is the real graphics king don't we?theseekar

Crysis ? And Alan Wake 2ond ?

crysis, killzone 2 and gears 2 would be my top 3, bu thats cos i am a sci-fi nut and i lean more towards artstyle than technical, which is why i chose the 360 in the first place, it's very heavy on Sci-fi exclusives.
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#153 delta3074
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="delta3074"]"Cinema mode also includes a photo option, which is again, extremely cool. You can freeze the scene, adjust the camera to wherever you want, push the button and a high quality JPEG is dumped onto the photos area of the PS3 XMB, where you can view it later, copy it off to flash drive, and upload it to the internet. Various post-processing effects can be added if that's your bag, but you can also get a plain and simple framebuffer dump too, which allows us to finally resolve an age-old debate... " http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-uncharted-article?page=2 as you can clearly see, the problem with uncharted 2 is that the people that play it can create there own bullshots and post them to the internet, so pictures uploaded using UC2's photo option should be taken with a pinch of salt UC2 is a fantastic looking game, but it is not as good looking as some of the insane bullshots i have seen posted on the internet. there is also another factor, unlike the 360 with it's hardware upscaler, the Ps3 uses a software upscaler, it's not very good at upscaling to 1080p, so if you force 1080p the game can look worse than it is supposed to be in my opinion killzone 2 is the console graphics king, but we all know which game is the real graphics king don't we?

They really wouldn't be bullshots though because its still all running realtime and its nothing extreme just camera adjustments or lighting which could be if dev wanted it that way. here is a default pic i just took only turned the cam and maybe zoomed a bit.

looks awesome, you can clearly see aliasing in the gun and the shirt collar, but it's minimal, they should update UC2 using the MLAA they used in GOW 3.
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#154 IgorAntunov
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The bullshots comes from pre-rendered cutscenes using in-game assets, blu-ray games use them often because there is so much space. All the cutscenes in god of war 3 and uncharted 2 are pre-rendered. No aliasing in them. but the gameplay looks jaggy indeed. Having finished both games on a 50 inch lcd screen, believe me i can tell cutscene from gameplay graphics.

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[QUOTE="delta3074"]"Cinema mode also includes a photo option, which is again, extremely cool. You can freeze the scene, adjust the camera to wherever you want, push the button and a high quality JPEG is dumped onto the photos area of the PS3 XMB, where you can view it later, copy it off to flash drive, and upload it to the internet. Various post-processing effects can be added if that's your bag, but you can also get a plain and simple framebuffer dump too, which allows us to finally resolve an age-old debate... " http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-uncharted-article?page=2 as you can clearly see, the problem with uncharted 2 is that the people that play it can create there own bullshots and post them to the internet, so pictures uploaded using UC2's photo option should be taken with a pinch of salt UC2 is a fantastic looking game, but it is not as good looking as some of the insane bullshots i have seen posted on the internet. there is also another factor, unlike the 360 with it's hardware upscaler, the Ps3 uses a software upscaler, it's not very good at upscaling to 1080p, so if you force 1080p the game can look worse than it is supposed to be in my opinion killzone 2 is the console graphics king, but we all know which game is the real graphics king don't we?killzowned24
They really wouldn't be bullshots though because its still all running realtime and its nothing extreme just camera adjustments or lighting which could be if dev wanted it that way. here is a default pic i just took only turned the cam and maybe zoomed a bit.

No offense but if you scroll to the right on that pic the rocks are very blurry and low textured. This game doesn't use anisotropic filtering. It's using either bilinear or trilinear, a very old form of filtering. This saddens me even more.

Also the cave edges have plenty of aliasing, more than I would expect with 2xAA. Although the game is running at a very low resolution, 1280x720.

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#156 R3FURBISHED
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QuitoFOOL

Check out the dudes hair, not Nate's the other guys. That kinda screams "not bullshot" to me, but this is just me.

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#158 nhh18
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Have you seen gears of war 3 bullshots. That game makes these bullshots look last generation.

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#160 QuitoFOOL
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Have you seen gears of war 3 bullshots. That game makes these bullshots look last generation.

nhh18

Look at this s**t. Don't think I'm just ripping on Sony for using bullshots.

BULLSHOTS people, try to use you're brain to tell the difference.

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#161 R3FURBISHED
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Jesus, if you don't know anything about graphics please just don't post people!

QuitoFOOL

Graphics are the least important part of any video game, their tike.

And what are you going to do to keep me out of this thread?

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#162 coolguy735
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Let me help make things clear...

The first screen is from Uncharted 2. Full game.

The second screen is from an early Uncharted 1.

Please...don't try to bullsh*t us with bullshot claims when you aren't even using screens from the same game. The two games are 2-3 years apart. Thanks.

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Hahaha, that was a good one mate. The second one is obviously Uncharted 2, look at his jacket.

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#163 QuitoFOOL
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Man people are just not smart, but that doesn't surprise me.

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#164 convicted_94
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[QUOTE="IgorAntunov"]

The bullshots comes from pre-rendered cutscenes using in-game assets, blu-ray games use them often because there is so much space. All the cutscenes in god of war 3 and uncharted 2 are pre-rendered. No aliasing in them. but the gameplay looks jaggy indeed. Having finished both games on a 50 inch lcd screen, believe me i can tell cutscene from gameplay graphics.

QuitoFOOL

DEFINITELY. You're a moron if you can't tell the difference.

or uninformed bit harsh to say to someone that there a moron for thinking what they see is real. btw is that punching scene the first image in the topic a cut scene or where drake punches someone(melee) ?

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[QUOTE="Omnisystem"]

Let me help make things clear...

The first screen is from Uncharted 2. Full game.

The second screen is from an early Uncharted 1.

Please...don't try to bullsh*t us with bullshot claims when you aren't even using screens from the same game. The two games are 2-3 years apart. Thanks.

coolguy735

Hahaha, that was a good one mate. The second one is obviously Uncharted 2, look at his jacket.

not sure but i think he means the second SET of images not the second one. The second set are obviously UC1.

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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

[QUOTE="QuitoFOOL"]

Jesus, if you don't know anything about graphics please just don't post people!

QuitoFOOL

Graphics are the least important part of any video game, their tike.

And what are you going to do to keep me out of this thread?

You misspelled "there" so you're obviously younger than me or just an idiot.

Graphics have always been important, and to they're are the LEAST important part makes you ignorant, possibly not even a real gamer.

Name a few games that haven't based a good portion of their success on them having nice visuals at the time.

grammar police. There is something wrong here. Are you younger than yourself or just an idiot. They're are. Basic error here. They are are.

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#169 QuitoFOOL
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[QUOTE="QuitoFOOL"]

[QUOTE="IgorAntunov"]

The bullshots comes from pre-rendered cutscenes using in-game assets, blu-ray games use them often because there is so much space. All the cutscenes in god of war 3 and uncharted 2 are pre-rendered. No aliasing in them. but the gameplay looks jaggy indeed. Having finished both games on a 50 inch lcd screen, believe me i can tell cutscene from gameplay graphics.

convicted_94

DEFINITELY. You're a moron if you can't tell the difference.

or uninformed bit harsh to say to someone that there a moron for thinking what they see is real. btw is that punching scene the first image in the topic a cut scene or where drake punches someone(melee) ?

And yes it is a cut scene, not real gameplay graphics.

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So what exactly are you trying to say?UC2 looks great.Possibly the best looking console game to date but its no Crysis.End of story.
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#171 QuitoFOOL
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[QUOTE="QuitoFOOL"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

Graphics are the least important part of any video game, their tike.

And what are you going to do to keep me out of this thread?

nhh18

You misspelled "there" so you're obviously younger than me or just an idiot.

Graphics have always been important, and to they're are the LEAST important part makes you ignorant, possibly not even a real gamer.

Name a few games that haven't based a good portion of their success on them having nice visuals at the time.

grammar police. There is something wrong here. Are you younger than yourself or just an idiot. They're are. Basic error here. They are are.

It should actually say "and to say they're the LEAST important part". I was typing too fast.

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#172 convicted_94
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[QUOTE="convicted_94"]

[QUOTE="QuitoFOOL"]

DEFINITELY. You're a moron if you can't tell the difference.

QuitoFOOL

or uninformed bit harsh to say to someone that there a moron for thinking what they see is real. btw is that punching scene the first image in the topic a cut scene or where drake punches someone(melee) ?

Lacking the intelligence to tell if something is real or not is highly representative of a moron.

A game is FAKE youre talking about bullshots, AA and filtering. How is everyone supposed to know everything that is happening in the image. some people aka gamers just game that dont give a crap about graphics and just play the damn game but now all of a sudden there "morons" cause they dont care and are better off for it.

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The bullshots comes from pre-rendered cutscenes using in-game assets, blu-ray games use them often because there is so much space. All the cutscenes in god of war 3 and uncharted 2 are pre-rendered. No aliasing in them. but the gameplay looks jaggy indeed. Having finished both games on a 50 inch lcd screen, believe me i can tell cutscene from gameplay graphics.

IgorAntunov
You fail so hard, as GOW3 doesnt use pre-rendered cinematics and it uses MLAA (Which gives the effect of 16xAA), so there is virtually no jaggies whatsoever present in the game...Its well known on SW that you hate Sony and the PS3, so you probably dont have a PS3 anyways :roll:
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#175 QuitoFOOL
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So what exactly are you trying to say?UC2 looks great.Possibly the best looking console game to date but its no Crysis.End of story.conistant

My thoughts exactly.

What I'm trying to say, and I don't know why it's so hard to figure out, is that the shots are fake and enhanced, like in the Gears of War picture I posted earlier.

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#176 conistant
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[QUOTE="conistant"]So what exactly are you trying to say?UC2 looks great.Possibly the best looking console game to date but its no Crysis.End of story.QuitoFOOL

My thoughts exactly.

What I'm trying to say, and I don't know why it's so hard to figure out, is that the shots are fake and enhanced, like in the Gears of War picture I posted earlier.

Bullshots are made to fool people.The kids here just can't understand that.They need some serious education.
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#177 QuitoFOOL
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[QUOTE="QuitoFOOL"]

[QUOTE="convicted_94"]

or uninformed bit harsh to say to someone that there a moron for thinking what they see is real. btw is that punching scene the first image in the topic a cut scene or where drake punches someone(melee) ?

convicted_94

Lacking the intelligence to tell if something is real or not is highly representative of a moron.

A game is FAKE youre talking about bullshots, AA and filtering. How is everyone supposed to know everything that is happening in the image. some people aka gamers just game that dont give a crap about graphics and just play the damn game but now all of a sudden there "morons" cause they dont care and are better off for it.

You're a moron if you see jagged-edges in a game, and a screenshot that doesn't, say you can't tell the difference. That or just a fanboy. It's like saying you can't tell the difference between a straight line and a jagged line.

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#178 QuitoFOOL
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[QUOTE="QuitoFOOL"]

[QUOTE="conistant"]So what exactly are you trying to say?UC2 looks great.Possibly the best looking console game to date but its no Crysis.End of story.conistant

My thoughts exactly.

What I'm trying to say, and I don't know why it's so hard to figure out, is that the shots are fake and enhanced, like in the Gears of War picture I posted earlier.

Bullshots are made to fool people.The kids here just can't understand that.They need some serious education.

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#179 Tessellation
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Look at this s**t. Don't think I'm just ripping on Sony for using bullshots.BULLSHOTS people, try to use you're brain to tell the difference.QuitoFOOL
Thats actually a target render.
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#180 QuitoFOOL
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[QUOTE="QuitoFOOL"]Look at this s**t. Don't think I'm just ripping on Sony for using bullshots.BULLSHOTS people, try to use you're brain to tell the difference.Tessellation
Thats actually a target render.

Still misleading and not what the game looks like. There's no textbook definition for bullshots and I'm sure that GOW shot has turned up in a graphics war thread.

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#181 Santesyu
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Ah another thread about uncharted 2, and the awesomeness it truly is some people in SW still wont recongnize what a surprise really.

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Are fanboys really so blind they can't even tell when a picture is a complete bullshot?

Really? Uncharted 2 runs with movie-like anti-aliasing? (jagged edge smoothing) for the retards who really shouldn't even be in system wars

ps3 games run with barely any anti-aliasing and a lot the time not any at all.

I guess I have to edit this since people are that stupid.

This is Uncharted 2, which obviously runs with 0 anti-aliasing, unlike the first pic.

Game companies purposely release bullshots of their games to promote them graphically and fanboys try to use them as legitimate excuses in graphics threads. It proves how little they know.

Take a good look at the edges of the cement, that's called aliasing, for those of you who know nothing about graphics.

QuitoFOOL

Well, its rather sickening how you are harsh towards people who say that those "Bullshots" are the quality of actual game-play, as its factual...Though you probably wouldnt know since youre a lemming/Hermit and do not have a PS3...

Thank for confirming that these "Bullshots" look so amazing

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Wall of resized bullshots above.
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[QUOTE="convicted_94"]

[QUOTE="QuitoFOOL"]

Lacking the intelligence to tell if something is real or not is highly representative of a moron.

QuitoFOOL

A game is FAKE youre talking about bullshots, AA and filtering. How is everyone supposed to know everything that is happening in the image. some people aka gamers just game that dont give a crap about graphics and just play the damn game but now all of a sudden there "morons" cause they dont care and are better off for it.

You're a moron if you see jagged-edges in a game, and a screenshot that doesn't, say you can't tell the difference. That or just a fanboy. It's like saying you can't tell the difference between a straight line and a jagged line.

so everyone who looks at an image of a game they played, didnt analyze everything in the image for a line that is straight and trying to remember where the lines arent straight in the game is a moron. hmm maybe they dont give a rats ass about the whether or not a line is straight like 99.5% of the world aka "you're morons". Man you must be happy u have a gaming pc i dont think you'll be able to play any game on consoles esp the wii. just look past the graphics and focus on the fun.

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Wall of resized bullshots above.Tessellation
Statement of a hardcore Lem...:roll:
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#186 QuitoFOOL
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[QUOTE="QuitoFOOL"]

Are fanboys really so blind they can't even tell when a picture is a complete bullshot?

Really? Uncharted 2 runs with movie-like anti-aliasing? (jagged edge smoothing) for the retards who really shouldn't even be in system wars

ps3 games run with barely any anti-aliasing and a lot the time not any at all.

I guess I have to edit this since people are that stupid.

This is Uncharted 2, which obviously runs with 0 anti-aliasing, unlike the first pic.

Game companies purposely release bullshots of their games to promote them graphically and fanboys try to use them as legitimate excuses in graphics threads. It proves how little they know.

Take a good look at the edges of the cement, that's called aliasing, for those of you who know nothing about graphics.

hamzah1235

Well, its rather sickening how you are harsh towards people who say that those "Bullshots" are the quality of actual game-play, as its factual...Though you probably wouldnt know since youre a lemming/Hermit and do not have a PS3...

Thank for confirming that these "Bullshots" look so amazing

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Every single one of those shots is a bullshot lol.

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#187 QuitoFOOL
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[QUOTE="QuitoFOOL"]

[QUOTE="convicted_94"]

A game is FAKE youre talking about bullshots, AA and filtering. How is everyone supposed to know everything that is happening in the image. some people aka gamers just game that dont give a crap about graphics and just play the damn game but now all of a sudden there "morons" cause they dont care and are better off for it.

convicted_94

You're a moron if you see jagged-edges in a game, and a screenshot that doesn't, say you can't tell the difference. That or just a fanboy. It's like saying you can't tell the difference between a straight line and a jagged line.

so everyone who looks at an image of a game they played, didnt analyze everything in the image for a line that is straight and trying to remember where the lines arent straight in the game is a moron. hmm maybe they dont give a rats ass about the whether or not a line is straight like 99.5% of the world aka "you're morons". Man you must be happy u have a gaming pc i dont think you'll be able to play any game on consoles esp the wii. just look past the graphics and focus on the fun.

I definitely look past graphics when I want to, but this is a thread about bullshots and being able to tell if one is one or not. I still stand by my believe that one is a moron if they can't tell the difference between the first shot in the original post and the one's that follow.

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#188 convicted_94
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Play the game at that area and just punch someone. to my memory when you punch someone the background blurs and the camera zooms in on the fighting. the rest of the images are just zoomed out cinematic camera angles.

Just give people a chance to see and notice AA you have to stop and look around and individualy find all of the lines. calling them idiots when they simply dont take notice about those types of things as they are playing the game not staring at it for those lines.

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#189 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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what exactly makes them bullshots.

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Referring to the bullshots two posts above me, they are the screenshots being touted by Naughty Dog themselves so obviously they would touch it up to show the best possible screenshots, they are from viewpoints not seen in the game; so doesn't represent the game's graphics, no artifacting; no aliasing, textures on angled surfaces as smooth and clear as anything. So duh, bullshots.
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#191 FIipMode
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Uncharted is a true SW legend, its been 9 months and its still getting talked about and hated on.
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#192 Esnedon
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Uncharted is a true SW legend, its been 9 months and its still getting talked about and hated on.FIipMode

If Uncharted 2 is a legend, then what is Crysis? It's been over 3 years since it was released.

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#193 88mphSlayer
Member since 2010 • 3201 Posts

ZOMG GRAPHICS FIGHT!!!!1111

btw its been 3 years since Crysis came out...

*throws tomato*

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#194 skektek
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Wow, what is with all the Uncharted 2 envy all of the sudden?

Get over it fanboys, UC2 really does look that good.

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#195 -Snooze-
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The Bullshots look like U2 looks like in motion. Stills always make a game look worse then it is to the eye.

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#196 killzowned24
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The Bullshots look like U2 looks like in motion. Stills always make a game look worse then it is to the eye.

-Snooze-
Some jaggie would be the only difference.
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#197 dakan45
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Sorry but uc2 looks amazing on my ps3.
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#198 lucky_star
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Sorry, but Uncharted 2 is still the best looking game on consoles.

Go play the game, do your selves a favor.

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#199 MK-Professor
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All the desperate console gamers post Bullshots and cutscenes.
They are so scared to post a direct-feed(in-game) screenshots...

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#200 Renjinrezo
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All the desperate console gamers post Bullshots and cutscenes.
They are so scared to post a direct-feed(in-game) screenshots...

MK-Professor

Funny that you're mixing console gamers with fanboys. What's next? "Direct-feed" with "in-game"? Oh... :P