They're all well and good,but exclusives ain't diggin Sony out of last place

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Every day there are multiple threads from cows about how teh PS3 has so many exclusives which are to be released on Sony's console this year.adding to the ones that have been released in the last few months

But repeatedly boring everyone with this info isn't enough,they also feel the need to attack the 360 over its lack of exclusives so far this year.(Their logic being because MS don't announce games 3 and 4 years in advance like Sony,their must be no 360 exclusives this year).

So my point being,despite supposedly edging out the 360 last year in exclusives (according to GS :roll: ),and despite having multiple 1st/2nd party games being released this year,the PS3 is still way out in last place.And not one of these big exclusive this year will be a system seller-you can quote me on that.

Don't you think it must be really dishearting for Sony to be pumping tens of millions of dollars in to productions that sell modestly compared to other big blockbusters and rarely boost the PS3's flagging sales,.(KZ2 being a good example.)

Gamers continue to favour the 360.Long may it last.

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#2 AmayaPapaya
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Does anyone else have this problem when you click on my post, Pikmin 2 Questions it re-directs you to some post on the 360 forum??

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#3 xmen1414
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something is messed up cuz i just got redirected to this...
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#4 Pinkyimp
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Does anyone else have this problem when you click on my post, Pikmin 2 Questions it re-directs you to some post on the 360 forum??

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Yes, something is wrong with these forums..its getting VERY annoying..
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#5 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I don't think PS3 owners are caring that much. That's Sony's problem. The GameCube was also an incredible console, despite being in last place.
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#6 Squall18
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The forums are screwy today~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyways, if Killzone 2, a personal favorite, can't sell too hot, then God of War 3 is their last "big" chance, seeing as LBP and the winter line up didn't sell many millions

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#7 finalfantasy94
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Needs a price drop.

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#8 ski11buzz
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Well, thats all great and all. but seeing how i dont work for microsoft, i dont care if the xbox is beating the ps3. I care about the games, and ps3 seems to be dishing them out and it looks like it'll keep it up. Cant say the same for 360 though.

Its sad really, that all the lemmings have to say against all of the sony games is that microsoft have sold more consoles than they have. hey tc, what good games are you looking forward to this year? besides ODST (which is an expansion...)

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#9 Trinners
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Why do people keep thinking that Killzone 2 and GoW3 are the major console sellers for the PS3? When in fact it's GT 5. GT is Sony's biggest franchise and is bigger than halo.

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#10 -M117-
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Its hard to justify a 400-500 console with any game in a recession..............especially when both competitors are cheaper and more popular.

Sony is screwed this gen :P

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#11 ChrisSpartan117
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I love the lulz these forums are creating todayImage Preview

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#12 Ragnarok1051
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Lemmings are using all the damage control they can think of.

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#13 ski11buzz
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The forums are screwy today~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyways, if Killzone 2, a personal favorite, can't sell too hot, then God of War 3 is their last "big" chance, seeing as LBP and the winter line up didn't sell many millions

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it doesnt matter how many games ps3 got. its the price of the system - plain and simple. the most expensive 360 is still less expensive than the cheapest ps3.
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#14 bdum_pshhh
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I second PS3 needing a price drop.
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#15 -M117-
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Lemmings are using all the damage control they can think of.

Ragnarok1051

funny thing............were not last place :P

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#16 GabeNewellsPie
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Needs a price drop.

finalfantasy94

And you think they can afford that at this moment?

Bearing in mind the huge amounts of cash that PS3 has cost them plus the fact that out of the big 3, Sony are the only ones splashing out big on in-house development..

Remember we're in ressesion,profit margins are tighter than ever,don't expect a price drop anytime soon imo.

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#17 Trinners
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[QUOTE="Squall18"]

The forums are screwy today~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyways, if Killzone 2, a personal favorite, can't sell too hot, then God of War 3 is their last "big" chance, seeing as LBP and the winter line up didn't sell many millions

ski11buzz

it doesnt matter how many games ps3 got. its the price of the system - plain and simple. the most expensive 360 is still less expensive than the cheapest ps3.

no they're not. 360 elite is 399 just like the cheapest PS3.

and lol at people buying consoles at retailers. craigslist ftw.

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Lemmings are using all the damage control they can think of.

-M117-

funny thing............were not last place :P

So why all the damage control? You've contributed to it as well.
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#19 ANeuralPathway
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Lemmings are using all the damage control they can think of.

-M117-

funny thing............were not last place :P

^^^This is a perfect example of why fanboys are such great entertainment.

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#20 hmac777
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Id rather have good games than the best sales, so long as sony doesnt go out of business ill take 3rd place

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#21 TheGrat1
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Good thing this is System Wars and not Stock Exchange Wars, right?
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#22 dayshot
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As long as sony keeps bringing out the games and is making money like right now it's 21 million I don't care if it's in last id rather be in last with tons of games than second place with nothing coming for my system.
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#23 Eddie-Vedder
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The DC has been on full throtle since KZ2, I predict it'll last a very very long time too :P Don't worry lemmings games suck, the NPD at the end of the month is all you need.

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Does anyone else have this problem when you click on my post, Pikmin 2 Questions it re-directs you to some post on the 360 forum??

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I have those problems with other topics, yep, Glitchspot is at it again.
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#25 GabeNewellsPie
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Good thing this is System Wars and not Stock Exchange Wars, right?TheGrat1

The way the economy is and the way Sony is losing huge quantities of money with the PS3,I wouldn't be suprised if SCE seriously slimmed their operations this gen.Next gen who knows?

This would affect alot of cows very badly.I don't want to see that happen.

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#26 beekayjay
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The only thing stopping the PS3 and its great selection of games from being appreciated is narrow minded people who have turned this consumer competition nasty. People decide whether a game is a system seller by making a choice. Where this race has gotten nasty is that people are becoming blind and unreasonable in their brand loyalty, to a point where a perfectly good piece of hardware with great software is being dragged through the mud of poor reputation for practically no substantial reason. My point: the major reason for the PS3's continued lag in NORTH AMERICAN sales (its doing fine in Europe and Asia, the other parts of the world North Americans tend to completely forget about) are people making choices based a lot on simply the price of the machine. Sony is last, that's a fact, largely due again to pricing, and a horrific launch which severely damaged its reputation. But there is nothing wrong with its games, and in fact, nothing wrong with the hardware. Sony is doing what any business would do: march on and yes, pour money into making the best games possible. To suggest that they don't do this is laughable, and illustrates precisely my point: there is a ridiculous level of bias at work here, that is blinding people to some great games and misinforming consumer decisions. Not buying a PS3 is fine, and I'm not here to sell you one. I just want to bring to light the near hatefullness that fanboys are bringing to this "war" that is both unreasonable and incredibly misguided.
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#27 SeanDiff
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Enjoy playing your sales.

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#28 SpruceCaboose
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More games = good for me. More sales = nothing for me. See the distinction?
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Well, thats all great and all. but seeing how i dont work for microsoft, i dont care if the xbox is beating the ps3. I care about the games, and ps3 seems to be dishing them out and it looks like it'll keep it up. Cant say the same for 360 though.

Its sad really, that all the lemmings have to say against all of the sony games is that microsoft have sold more consoles than they have. hey tc, what good games are you looking forward to this year? besides ODST (which is an expansion...)

ski11buzz
Actually what's sad is the cows ignoring all the exclusives that the 360 has gotten so far this year just because they didn't score AAAA. So really, both factions are in the wrong in my opinion. Both lemmings and cows.
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#30 KilIzone3
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Sure is sales in here
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Every day there are multiple threads from cows about how teh PS3 has so many exclusives which are to be released on Sony's console this year.adding to the ones that have been released in the last few months

But repeatedly boring everyone with this info isn't enough,they also feel the need to attack the 360 over its lack of exclusives so far this year.(Their logic being because MS don't announce games 3 and 4 years in advance like Sony,their must be no 360 exclusives this year).

So my point being,despite supposedly edging out the 360 last year in exclusives (according to GS :roll: ),and despite having multiple 1st/2nd party games being released this year,the PS3 is still way out in last place.And not one of these big exclusive this year will be a system seller-you can quote me on that.

Don't you think it must be really dishearting for Sony to be pumping tens of millions of dollars in to productions that sell modestly compared to other big blockbusters and rarely boost the PS3's flagging sales,.(KZ2 being a good example.)

Gamers continue to favour the 360.Long may it last.

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says the fanboy. /thread
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#32 rorskarch
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Lemmings are using all the damage control they can think of.

-M117-

funny thing............were not last place :P

you are in everything but sales. oh, but i'm sure that you enjoy numbers so much seeing as that is all you lems can talk about now.
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#33 rorskarch
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[QUOTE="ski11buzz"]

Well, thats all great and all. but seeing how i dont work for microsoft, i dont care if the xbox is beating the ps3. I care about the games, and ps3 seems to be dishing them out and it looks like it'll keep it up. Cant say the same for 360 though.

Its sad really, that all the lemmings have to say against all of the sony games is that microsoft have sold more consoles than they have. hey tc, what good games are you looking forward to this year? besides ODST (which is an expansion...)

xsubtownerx
Actually what's sad is the cows ignoring all the exclusives that the 360 has gotten so far this year just because they didn't score AAAA. So really, both factions are in the wrong in my opinion. Both lemmings and cows.

are you kidding :/ nice try to save yourselves though, but honestly, what worthwhile game has come out for the 360 so far, i cant even remember. has there even been 1 AAE?
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I wish the 360 fanboys knew how bad the 360 would be today, if it hadn't had that year head start. The PS3 is doing surprisingly well considering the later entrance to the market with such fewer library of good games. Now look at them. I smell desperation. BTW, the 360 should be doing a lot better considering the advantages, but it isn't.
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[QUOTE="-M117-"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Lemmings are using all the damage control they can think of.

rorskarch

funny thing............were not last place :P

you are in everything but sales. oh, but i'm sure that you enjoy numbers so much seeing as that is all you lems can talk about now.

What do you mean? 360 has more quality titles than the PS3, more sales than the PS3 (both hardware and software) and a more popular online community.
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#36 rorskarch
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[QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="-M117-"]

funny thing............were not last place :P

-DrRobotnik-

you are in everything but sales. oh, but i'm sure that you enjoy numbers so much seeing as that is all you lems can talk about now.

What do you mean? 360 has more quality titles than the PS3, more sales than the PS3 (both hardware and software) and a more popular online community.

doesnt ps3 have more AAAE+. and i wouldnt say psn or live is better than the other at this point. i guess my point was that you cant say ps3 is last unless it is solely based off sales.

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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="rorskarch"] you are in everything but sales. oh, but i'm sure that you enjoy numbers so much seeing as that is all you lems can talk about now.rorskarch

What do you mean? 360 has more quality titles than the PS3, more sales than the PS3 (both hardware and software) and a more popular online community.

doesnt ps3 have more AAAE+. and i wouldnt say psn or live is better than the other at this point. i guess my point was that you cant say ps3 is last unless it is solely based off sales.

The 360 has more AAA, AA and A games than the PS3. Not sure about exclusivity though.
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#38 Dibdibdobdobo
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I wish the 360 fanboys knew how bad the 360 would be today, if it hadn't had that year head start. The PS3 is doing surprisingly well considering the later entrance to the market with such fewer library of good games. Now look at them. I smell desperation. BTW, the 360 should be doing a lot better considering the advantages, but it isn't. Slambo86
Thats assuming. You can never be sure how things work out to be honest. Sony is doing ok and so are Microsoft. As long as both do reasonable and earn a profit then its all ok and both will keep competing in next gen.
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#39 rorskarch
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[QUOTE="rorskarch"]

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"] What do you mean? 360 has more quality titles than the PS3, more sales than the PS3 (both hardware and software) and a more popular online community. -DrRobotnik-

doesnt ps3 have more AAAE+. and i wouldnt say psn or live is better than the other at this point. i guess my point was that you cant say ps3 is last unless it is solely based off sales.

The 360 has more AAA, AA and A games than the PS3. Not sure about exclusivity though.

last I checked ps3 had more AAAE+ while 360 had more AAE(dont know about AE) so that pretty much evens out too.
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are you kidding :/ nice try to save yourselves though, but honestly, what worthwhile game has come out for the 360 so far, i cant even remember. has there even been 1 AAE?rorskarch

Depends on the context - Are we discussing worthwhile games in the bubble of System wars or reality?

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#41 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="rorskarch"]

doesnt ps3 have more AAAE+. and i wouldnt say psn or live is better than the other at this point. i guess my point was that you cant say ps3 is last unless it is solely based off sales.

rorskarch

The 360 has more AAA, AA and A games than the PS3. Not sure about exclusivity though.

last I checked ps3 had more AAAE+ while 360 had more AAE(dont know about AE) so that pretty much evens out too.

exclusive-wise yes, but in terms of overall library, 360 >>> PS3

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Well i don care if ps3 is in last place. I only care about their games, and their exclusives are the best out imo. I like the fact that sony doesnt just have any game made on its console....ahem wii. At least sony tries its best for the consumers imo. In japan though sony is outselling due to there exclusives. The ps3 is picking up steam, and im surprised in this kind of economy. Microsoft well have a bad year this year, due to as of now no major exclusives, as sony starts to push its consoles out the door.
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#43 Fumpa
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Lemmings are using all the damage control they can think of.

Ragnarok1051
Maybe, but I agree with TC that cows are posting a lot of annoying topics about how great the PS3 exclusives are. Your comment seems more like damage control than what the TC wrote.
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[QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="-M117-"]

funny thing............were not last place :P

-DrRobotnik-

you are in everything but sales. oh, but i'm sure that you enjoy numbers so much seeing as that is all you lems can talk about now.

What do you mean? 360 has more quality titles than the PS3, more sales than the PS3 (both hardware and software) and a more popular online community.

You do realize titles especially multiplat are not far behind from what the 360 is selling at all, that's nothing to brag about with a years head start, and that PSn has worked it's way up to be at least on par with Live.

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#45 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Lemmings are using all the damage control they can think of.

Fumpa

Maybe, but I agree with TC that cows are posting a lot of annoying topics about how great the PS3 exclusives are. Your comment seems more like damage control than what the TC wrote.

So, saying someone is damage controlling is damage control? :?

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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="rorskarch"] you are in everything but sales. oh, but i'm sure that you enjoy numbers so much seeing as that is all you lems can talk about now.Solid_Max13

What do you mean? 360 has more quality titles than the PS3, more sales than the PS3 (both hardware and software) and a more popular online community.

You do realize titles especially multiplat are not far behind from what the 360 is selling at all, that's nothing to brag about with a years head start, and that PSn has worked it's way up to be at least on par with Live.

:lol: And cue the year headstart excuse. I dont care why the 360 is in front, but it is, regardless of any advantage MS may have had. And no, PSN still has a bit to go before it matches Live.
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#47 Dibdibdobdobo
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Well i don care if ps3 is in last place. I only care about their games, and their exclusives are the best out imo. I like the fact that sony doesnt just have any game made on its console....ahem wii. At least sony tries its best for the consumers imo. In japan though sony is outselling due to there exclusives. The ps3 is picking up steam, and im surprised in this kind of economy. Microsoft well have a bad year this year, due to as of now no major exclusives, as sony starts to push its consoles out the door.ez_moneymaker

So you wasnt talkingabout last generation when Sony allowed games like Noddy, teletubbies, Barbie, Pingu annd all that rubbish? Sorry but Sony only care about profits andSame goes for Nintendo and Microsoft! Dont lie to yourself and say " like the fact that sony doesnt just have any game made on its console....ahem wii" because the simple fact of that is Sony isnt the leading Console this generation so all the shovelware will go else where which is the Nintendo Wii. If Sony was the #1 dog yet again for a 3rd gen running then i'm sure it would have all the exclusives it had on the the 2 previous generations as why would companies build games for 360 or Wii as it costs money? They wouldnt, They'd just keep everything exclusive on the Sony as games cost money to develop.

Overall know what you are on about before speaking garbage.

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#48 rorskarch
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[QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"] The 360 has more AAA, AA and A games than the PS3. Not sure about exclusivity though. -DrRobotnik-

last I checked ps3 had more AAAE+ while 360 had more AAE(dont know about AE) so that pretty much evens out too.

exclusive-wise yes, but in terms of overall library, 360 >>> PS3

are you talking about PC-360 multiplats then? because those gamese are still multiplat, so they cant contribute to a distinction between which library is better really, because it doesn't only exist on that console.
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#49 Kickinurass
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[QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"] The 360 has more AAA, AA and A games than the PS3. Not sure about exclusivity though. -DrRobotnik-

last I checked ps3 had more AAAE+ while 360 had more AAE(dont know about AE) so that pretty much evens out too.

exclusive-wise yes, but in terms of overall library, 360 >>> PS3

According the charts, the 360 is slightly ahead in AAAE+ exclusives, though depending on how we count AAAAE's- it's more or less equal.

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#50 gago-gago
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Good point, I don't think Sony had any system sellers so far, except for blu ray.