Things kinect can do but move cant

You can jump like a monkey with kinect!

honestly, ppl should do that in zoo, it's gonna be awesome.

[QUOTE="sam_nintendo"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Yeah I see people waiting in line just for that.

gamer-adam1

not even close to the same thing, the game tracks the outline of your body, thats why he punches and kicks to the side, because the camera wouldnt be able to see you punch forward, on kinect you can. 2D is a big difference between 3D

Move offers nothing new while Kinect is something many people haven't experienced yet. Mr_BillGates

The only really interesting thing about move is that it's a pseudo mouse IMO. At least the thing looks like it could have certain uses over a normal controller (as in games where a mouse would have been handy).

As for Kinect, it has yet to shown any kind of use or function that I would personally deem worthwhile. In fact, the most "core" things I've seen on Kinect have more been matters of forcing the scheme upon the content than improving experiences.

Keep up all the can and can't do talk, I'll reserve my judgement.

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]Move offers nothing new while Kinect is something many people haven't experienced yet. kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]Move offers nothing new while Kinect is something many people haven't experienced yet. Mr_BillGates

EyeToy Ant-gravSega's Activator -- You are the controller

I did'nt intend to butt in on your conversation but WHAT?

What are you getting at here? Is there some sort of deeply complex ownage in your comments?

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Things Move can do that Kinect can't:

• Resident Evil 5
• Heavy Rain
• MAG
• No More Heroes: Heroes Paradise
• R.U.S.E.
• Dead Space: Extraction
• Infamous 2
• Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath
• SOCOM 4
• Sly Cooper
• Rune Factory

Things Kinect can do that Move can't:

• Dance Central
• Dance Masters
• Dance Paradise
• Kinect Sports
• Deca Sports Freedom
• MotionSports
• EA Sports Active 2.0*
• Your Shape: Fitness Evolved
• Get Fit With Mel B*
• Zumba Fitness*
• The Biggest Lose: Ultimate Workout

Hooray.

You should see the list of things the Wii can do that neither of them can.

Bleh, motion control system wars fatigue.

*These are actually multiplats.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]Move offers nothing new while Kinect is something many people haven't experienced yet. Mr_BillGates

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Things Move can do that Kinect can't:

• Resident Evil 5
• Heavy Rain
• MAG
• No More Heroes: Heroes Paradise
• R.U.S.E.
• Dead Space: Extraction
• Infamous 2
• Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath
• SOCOM 4
• Sly Cooper
• Rune Factory

Things Kinect can do that Move can't:

• Dance Central
• Dance Masters
• Dance Paradise
• Kinect Sports
• Deca Sports Freedom
• MotionSports
• EA Sports Active 2.0*
• Your Shape: Fitness Evolved
• Get Fit With Mel B*
• Zumba Fitness*
• The Biggest Lose: Ultimate Workout

Hooray.

You should see the list of things the Wii can do that neither of them can.

Bleh, motion control system wars fatigue.

*These are actually multiplats.

Ragnarok1051

well kinect works with a controller so all the move titles would work with a kinect peripheral

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Im not talking about games. Im talking about things they can do the other cant.

gamer-adam1

well kinect works with a controller so all the move titles would work with a kinect peripheral

[QUOTE="sam_nintendo"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Yeah I see people waiting in line just for that.

gamer-adam1

not even close to the same thing, the game tracks the outline of your body, thats why he punches and kicks to the side, because the camera wouldnt be able to see you punch forward, on kinect you can. 2D is a big difference between 3D

Kinect is way more appealing than move, simply because it's different. I'm not saying it's going to be good or bad, but I'm hoping for the former. At least MS is thinking outside the box. For that alone we should be praising them.musicalmac

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Kinect can track the full body motion of your body. So you can kick but you cant kick with your feet on move.Pretty much anything dealing with your full body, move cant do. CajunShooter

Kung Fu Live

Didn't that pretty much ended the thread? Kinect can't do much mor ethan the PS Eye, there's no real reason for 3D tracking (and move can do it anyway) and infrared is just wasted money :S

Do you think the things move cant do but kinect can will be a big selling point?? Kinect can track the full body motion of your body. So you can kick but you cant kick with your feet on move.Pretty much anything dealing with your full body, move cant do. Anything move can do but kinect cant,can be done on the controller of 360. Only thing useful that youcan do on moveis maybe golf,but you can do that on kinect probably with better because of full body movement tracking. Pretty much what im interested in using kinect for you cant do that on move.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="lordfalsus"]

kinect can make you look like a douche bag more than a motion cotroller can... i mean seriously kinect just looks stupid,im not even a fan of the move tho. if i wanna wail around while i play a video game ill play DDR

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Kinect can track the full body motion of your body. So you can kick but you cant kick with your feet on move.Pretty much anything dealing with your full body, move cant do. ArchoNils2

Kung Fu Live

Didn't that pretty much ended the thread? Kinect can't do much mor ethan the PS Eye, there's no real reason for 3D tracking (and move can do it anyway) and infrared is just wasted money :S

[QUOTE="Stoner-Pimp"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Yeah I see people waiting in line just for that.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Kinect can track the full body motion of your body. So you can kick but you cant kick with your feet on move.Pretty much anything dealing with your full body, move cant do. ArchoNils2

Kung Fu Live

Didn't that pretty much ended the thread? Kinect can't do much mor ethan the PS Eye, there's no real reason for 3D tracking (and move can do it anyway) and infrared is just wasted money :S

I've never heard of that game until just now. It's an PSN game ($15?) that uses nothing but the PS eye and honestly, it looks pretty fun. It also appears to be lag-free. :shock:

Check out the demo on gamespot.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Kinect can track the full body motion of your body. So you can kick but you cant kick with your feet on move.Pretty much anything dealing with your full body, move cant do. Vinegar_Strokes

Kung Fu Live

Hooray.

You should see the list of things the Wii can do that neither of them can.

Bleh, motion control system wars fatigue.

*These are actually multiplats.

shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Stoner-Pimp"]You said move can't do full body tracking, it can as shown by Kung fu live, no one said it was good or bad, but none the less it can do what you said it couldn't, anyways i've yet to see a kinect game that looks any better.lightleggy

It tries but fails to do it. Kinect is the only way on consoles.slipknot0129

Things kinect can do but move cantslipknot0129

[QUOTE="thedude-"]

Kinect will be more significant with interface rather than games. I can see Kinect technology incorporated into laptop web cameras, web cams, and other devices for MS.

So basically many functions we perform with mouse and keyboard will be transferred to eye tracking. Hand and body motions are just the first step. When they can track eye movements, navigating a computer becomes faster and easier than ever conceived.

Dire_Weasel

Kinect can do eye tracking now?

That's a rhetorical question: of course it can't. It looks like the fanboys still believe Kinect is going to make them into Tom Cruise in Minority Report.

Pew, Pew, Pew ....... Only on Kinect :lol: .

omho88

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"]

[QUOTE="thedude-"]

Kinect will be more significant with interface rather than games. I can see Kinect technology incorporated into laptop web cameras, web cams, and other devices for MS.

So basically many functions we perform with mouse and keyboard will be transferred to eye tracking. Hand and body motions are just the first step. When they can track eye movements, navigating a computer becomes faster and easier than ever conceived.

thedude-

Kinect can do eye tracking now?

That's a rhetorical question: of course it can't. It looks like the fanboys still believe Kinect is going to make them into Tom Cruise in Minority Report.

That's fine but has nothing to do with Kinect which did'nt invent any of those techs to begin with.

Kinect can win the heart of Oprah viewers and tween JB fans around the world. I don't think Move really has an honor quite as prestigious.

Anyone else feel that TC is PNF in disguise? :P

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="thedude-"]

Kinect will be more significant with interface rather than games. I can see Kinect technology incorporated into laptop web cameras, web cams, and other devices for MS.

So basically many functions we perform with mouse and keyboard will be transferred to eye tracking. Hand and body motions are just the first step. When they can track eye movements, navigating a computer becomes faster and easier than ever conceived.

thedude-

But what would the point be? short keys and a mouse is way more efficient than "Kinect" for laptops would be. Even if the "mouse" was actually a touch pad.

What if you have an itch? You go and screw things up.

[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]Kinect is way more appealing than move, simply because it's different. I'm not saying it's going to be good or bad, but I'm hoping for the former. At least MS is thinking outside the box. For that alone we should be praising them.Grovilis

Another thing kinect has is the inability to work in the average household! Weeee!

To use kinect, you need a few feet of clear space and a mostly white room. Yippee! Everyone has that in their homes.

The non gaming applications for Kinect are great, that's where MS should focus its marketing about, but what is really happening is that " you are the controller" and " motion free gaming" are taking the biggest part of the campain. omho88

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Grovilis"]This. The kinect is pretty cool when it comes tothings likenavigating the dashboard, but the games honestly don't look too great except for Dance Central, IMO.

omho88

Was that sarcasm?

[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] I don't even see that. What makes moving your arm around to navigate menu's better than pushing a button? When I turn the volume up on my TV do I want to just push the button on the remote or do I want to wave my arm up and down. That's the difference we are talking about.ArchoNils2

Was that sarcasm?

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]It tries but fails to do it. Kinect is the only way on consoles.Kane04

Things kinect can do but move cantslipknot0129

has that video been proven that it wasnt a cut scene? because it looks like a cutscene and he was just following what he saw. because they could of done something cooler if it was real, and oh if he was acting, you should of been able to tell that through the who video. and kinect hasnt been hiding from the press, all gold users are able to try kinect in one of the major cities they are showing it

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="thedude-"]Think about instantly logging in because your specific eye works better than a password. Lets say you have multiple windows up in your monitor, instead of having to click the specific window you look at it and immediately start doing actions in the window you are looking at (this may sound extremely trivial but little things like that could seriously speed up the process). The freedom of being able to control your computer as long as you are somewhat near it is a big deal. This shatters barriers for casual users. SO many functions that Kinect technology will use, will be able to streamline computers even more for inexperienced users. When the basic person can do much more with computers due to new tools, advanced users range of tools exponentially increase. Before the mouse, everyone used qwerty and many people scoffed at the idea of the mouse.thedude-

And these days little kids are apt with computers.

Voice controls if voice recognition stops sucking and natural language processing improves will be useful. And touch UIs will become even more prevalent too I imagine.

But unless technology develops to a stage where it's actually like Minority Report and not PR nonsense, and it's cheap, efficient and effective, the mouse and keyboard aren't going anywhere fast.

[QUOTE="thedude-"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"]

Kinect can do eye tracking now?

That's a rhetorical question: of course it can't. It looks like the fanboys still believe Kinect is going to make them into Tom Cruise in Minority Report.

Filthybastrd

That's fine but has nothing to do with Kinect which did'nt invent any of those techs to begin with.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]It checks for pixel changes. Not full body movement.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Kinect can track the full body motion of your body. So you can kick but you cant kick with your feet on move.Pretty much anything dealing with your full body, move cant do. CajunShooter

Kung Fu Live

The playstation eye can't see depth that is the reason it has the move contoller that has a light on the end of it.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

Kinect can track the full body motion of your body. So you can kick but you cant kick with your feet on move.Pretty much anything dealing with your full body, move cant do. slipknot0129

Kung Fu Live

The playstation eye can't see depth that is the reason it has the move contoller that has a light on the end of it.

I bought 18 Move controllers, and have them all fastened to my body in a special jumpsuit I made.

So, yes, Move can detect the PSWands I have attached to my shoes, knees, torso, chest, elbows, buttocks, hands, and head.

Well you know what Kinect can't do? How about control things with your mind!!

Well MindFlex from Mattel allows you to do just that: MindFlex

Moving things with your mind>>>than flailing arms around.

Mindflex > Kinect?

You decide

Do you think the things move cant do but kinect can will be a big selling point?? Kinect can track the full body motion of your body. So you can kick but you cant kick with your feet on move.Pretty much anything dealing with your full body, move cant do. Anything move can do but kinect cant,can be done on the controller of 360. Only thing useful that youcan do on moveis maybe golf,but you can do that on kinect probably with better because of full body movement tracking. Pretty much what im interested in using kinect for you cant do that on move.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Do you think the things move cant do but kinect can will be a big selling point?? Kinect can track the full body motion of your body. So you can kick but you cant kick with your feet on move.Pretty much anything dealing with your full body, move cant do. Anything move can do but kinect cant,can be done on the controller of 360. Only thing useful that youcan do on moveis maybe golf,but you can do that on kinect probably with better because of full body movement tracking. Pretty much what im interested in using kinect for you cant do that on move.

lucky_star

Do you think the things move cant do but kinect can will be a big selling point?? Kinect can track the full body motion of your body. So you can kick but you cant kick with your feet on move.Pretty much anything dealing with your full body, move cant do. Anything move can do but kinect cant,can be done on the controller of 360. Only thing useful that youcan do on moveis maybe golf,but you can do that on kinect probably with better because of full body movement tracking. Pretty much what im interested in using kinect for you cant do that on move.