Things System Wars People Need to Know

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#1 CaseyWegner
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This may all seem pretty straightforward and obvious but some confusion has recently reared its ugly head.

1. A game that exists on more than one platform (including the pc) is not exclusive...at all.

2. This is system wars...not console wars. The pc counts as much here as any other system.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25865702&tag=topics%3Btitle

If you disagree, find another forum.

3. This is system wars...not company wars. The PC is not a Microsoft platform. It is an open platform. Microsoft just so happens to make the most common operating system and that is also only just one component that makes a PC work.

4. The "console exclusive" and "console graphics king" terms have no place here because it selectively excludes a system that is included in this forum. (see above) Find a better term to use.

5. An already multiplat game going to another system is not an exclusive lost for any system the game was originally on.

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#3 Head_of_games
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Thanks for putting this up. ALL GLORY TO THE PC.
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#4 bbkkristian
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Hopefully people will read this, right? :P
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#5 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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I hope people will notice this thread. I lost count of how many times people have excluded the PC.

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#6 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Really, disagree, go find another forum? lol
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#7 CaseyWegner
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Really, disagree, go find another forum? lolsiLVURcross

really and truly.

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Really, disagree, go find another forum? lolsiLVURcross
Casey has been saying that for years. It's like his tagline!
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#9 Zero_epyon
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Agreed. People wont read this sadly.

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#10 CaseyWegner
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Agreed. People wont read this sadly.

Zero_epyon

but they can't say they weren't warned.

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#11 Zero_epyon
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[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

Agreed. People wont read this sadly.

CaseyWegner

but they can't say they weren't warned.

Very true.
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#13 IppoTenma
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Thanks. Now I can shut my Microsoft fanboy freinds up.

EDIT: Harsh, Champ! :lol:

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#14 Ratchet_Fan8
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I'll still ignore the PC :evil: JK.. (orr...)

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#16 Cherokee_Jack
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4. The "console exclusive" term has no place here because it selectively excludes a system that is included in this forum. (see above) Find a better term to use.CaseyWegner
Can we take this to mean that the possession or lack of a multiplat game may be compared between two platforms if it isn't called a "console exclusive"? Or is that excluding the other platform?
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#17 Espada12
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Really, disagree, go find another forum? lolJandurin
Casey has been saying that for years. It's like his tagline!

It's a pretty awesome tagline if you ask me!

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#18 jg4xchamp
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Damn grumpy, my bad I was just joking. On topic: While I agree on the OS thing isn't this forum filled with company wars as it is? It isn't like you guys lock a "Microsoft sucks" or "Sony is garbage" threads either. Just saying probably would be better to just point out that the OS does not have control over the system the way the big 3 have over their respective consoles.
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#19 205212669269561485377169522720
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Maybe this will stop the whole "console exclusive" talk.. How about you also include "console graphics king" while your at it?

I swear both of those terms, excuse my language, just piss me off. -_-

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#20 Sky-
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This may all seem pretty straightforward and obvious but some confusion has recently reared its ugly head.

1. A game that exists on more than one platform (including the pc) are not exclusive...at all.

2. This is system wars...not console wars. The pc counts as much here as any other system.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25865702&tag=topics%3Btitle

If you disagree, find another forum.

3. This is system wars...not company wars. The PC is not a Microsoft platform. It is an open platform. Microsoft just so happens to make the most common operating system and that is also only just one component that makes a PC work.

4. The "console exclusive" term has no place here because it selectively excludes a system that is included in this forum. (see above) Find a better term to use.

5. An already multiplat game going to another system is not an exclusive lost for any system the game was originally on.

CaseyWegner

So 360 just lost Mass Effect 2 exclusivity to PS3, amirite? =P

On a more serious note, I already knew all of this. I guess SW needs a refresher once in a while, but we could be using the sticky space for something more important to be honest.

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#21 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Maybe this will stop the whole "console exclusive" talk.. How about you also include "console graphics king" while your at it?

I swear both of those terms, excuse my language, just piss me off. -_-

sanim02

Those things won't stop. Threads will keep getting made, and keep getting locked. It's just part of SW.

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#22 mo0ksi
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I really hope people read this.
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#23 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Well, I find these rules to be very System Wars Exclusive.
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#26 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]4. The "console exclusive" term has no place here because it selectively excludes a system that is included in this forum. (see above) Find a better term to use.Cherokee_Jack
Can we take this to mean that the possession or lack of a multiplat game may be compared between two platforms if it isn't called a "console exclusive"? Or is that excluding the other platform?

that's fine. just don't call it any type of exclusive. if you find yourself somehow making a thread involving only the 360, ps3, and wii then you need to first ask yourself "why?".

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#27 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Maybe this will stop the whole "console exclusive" talk.. How about you also include "console graphics king" while your at it?

I swear both of those terms, excuse my language, just piss me off. -_-

jimkabrhel

Those things won't stop. Threads will keep getting made, and keep getting locked. It's just part of SW.

No as in fighting about how they are right about said ter---... Oh never mind, it will never end. lol

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#28 smokeydabear076
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Well, I find these rules to be very System Wars Exclusive.siLVURcross
Wow, that's so surprising... that a board would have specific rules... just like you can't talk about videogame things in OT... or can't make Xbox 360 threads in the PC boards.

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#29 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Well, I find these rules to be very System Wars Exclusive.smokeydabear076

Wow, that's so surprising... that a board would have specific rules... just like you can't talk about videogame things in OT... or make Xbox 360 threads in the PC boards.

It was just a joke >_>
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#30 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Well, I find these rules to be very System Wars Exclusive.siLVURcross

Wow, that's so surprising... that a board would have specific rules... just like you can't talk about videogame things in OT... or make Xbox 360 threads in the PC boards.

It was just a joke >_>

So was this! :o

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#33 W1NGMAN-
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"5. An already multiplat game going to another system is not an exclusive lost for any system the game was originally on."

But it's one less ammunition used against another system.

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#35 CaseyWegner
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So threads like, "Which console has the best gamepad?"or "Which console looks the nicest?"would be locked because they exclude the PC?

And all those "Best graphics" threads will be locked? Because, let's face it, the Wii is excluded from them, even if it isn't explicitly stated. Or is it only a problem when the PC is excluded? Because that seems to be what you're going for.

Seems a little ridiculous.

Unless this is just advice to post by, in which case this thread is rather pointless.

Ross_the_Boss6

"which console has the best gamepad?" is fine. "which console looks the nicest" is fine.

the wii is most definitely NOT excluded. if it had a game that qualified, it would be perfectly welcome. what is so ridiculous?

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#36 FIipMode
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"5. An already multiplat game going to another system is not an exclusive lost for any system the game was originally on."

But it's one less ammunition used against another system.

W1NGMAN-
Which is why that thread was so huge in the first place.
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#37 Ross_the_Boss6
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So is this just advice to post by or are these actual rules and a moderation will be received if broken? Seems a little extreme if the later is true.

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#38 R3FURBISHED
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1. A game that exists on more than one platform (including the pc) is not exclusive...at all.

CaseyWegner

But games that exist on multiple operating systems are exclusive?

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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

"5. An already multiplat game going to another system is not an exclusive lost for any system the game was originally on."

But it's one less ammunition used against another system.

FIipMode

Which is why that thread was so huge in the first place.

Yup, an advantage over X console is still an advantage but I think if the term console exclusive should be banned here, I'm all up for it.

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#41 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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excellent thread casey and a moderation for champ, could be my fave of the day so far! :P (this is a joke btw mods!) Although I guess this means I can't trol ... *ahem* I mean debate both sides of the issue in different threads now :(

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#42 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

1. A game that exists on more than one platform (including the pc) is not exclusive...at all.

R3FURBISHED

But games that exist on multiple operating systems are exclusive.

what?

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#43 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

1. A game that exists on more than one platform (including the pc) is not exclusive...at all.

R3FURBISHED

But games that exist on multiple operating systems are exclusive?

3. This is system wars...not company wars. The PC is not a Microsoft platform. It is an open platform. Microsoft just so happens to make the most common operating system and that is also only just one component that makes a PC work.

A Mac is a PC

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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

1. A game that exists on more than one platform (including the pc) is not exclusive...at all.

CaseyWegner

But games that exist on multiple operating systems are exclusive.

what?

Starcraft 2
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#45 smokeydabear076
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So is this just advice to post by or are these actual rules and a moderation will be received if broken? Seems a little extreme if the later is true.

Ross_the_Boss6

I think they should ban the people who break these rules. It's only reasonable. I mean this stuff is kinda obvious common sense kind of stuff. Like speaking of "exclusivity", 1 (game on the PC) + 1 (game on the 360) does not = 1 (game only on the 360)!

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#46 N30F3N1X
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Starcraft 2R3FURBISHED

What?

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#47 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

But games that exist on multiple operating systems are exclusive.

R3FURBISHED

what?

Starcraft 2

a pc is not defined by its operating system. it means personal computer.

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#48 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

But games that exist on multiple operating systems are exclusive.

R3FURBISHED

what?

Starcraft 2

Last time I checky that operating system disk wasn't a system with ram, a graphics card and all of that stuff... lol.

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#49 R3FURBISHED
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]Starcraft 2N30F3N1X

What?

A game available on both the Microsoft operating system and the Macintosh operating system.
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]Starcraft 2R3FURBISHED

What?

A game available on both the Microsoft operating system and the Macintosh operating system.



Both = PC