Things System Wars People Need to Know

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What?

[QUOTE="Ross_the_Boss6"]

So is this just advice to post by or are these actual rules and a moderation will be received if broken? Seems a little extreme if the later is true.

smokeydabear076

You'd go as far as to outright ban someone for breaking these rules? Let's face it, this isn't like posting porn or cursing someone out to no end. Very good thing you are not a mod, sir.

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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]Starcraft 2R3FURBISHED

What?

So is this just advice to post by or are these actual rules and a moderation will be received if broken? Seems a little extreme if the later is true.

Ross_the_Boss6

advice to avoid a moderation since it would go against what this forum is intended for.

A game available on both the Microsoft operating system and the Macintosh operating system.R3FURBISHED

So?

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[QUOTE="Ross_the_Boss6"]

So is this just advice to post by or are these actual rules and a moderation will be received if broken? Seems a little extreme if the later is true.

Ross_the_Boss6

You'd go as far as to outright ban someone for breaking these rules? Let's face it, this isn't like posting porn or cursing someone out to no end. Very good thing you are not a mod, sir.

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I think they should ban the people who break these rules. It's only reasonable. I mean this stuff is kinda obvious common sense kind of stuff. Like speaking of "exclusivity", 1 (game on the PC) + 1 (game on the 360) does not = 1 (game only on the 360)!

You'd go as far as to outright ban someone for breaking these rules? Let's face it, this isn't like posting porn or cursing someone out to no end. Very good thing you are not a mod, sir.

a pc is not defined by its operating system. it means personal computer.

CaseyWegner

I realize this has been discussed already, and at length. My question is still that if I were to log onto amazon.com right now and buy the Macintosh version of Starcraft 2 and try to install it on my computer (running Windows 7 64-bit) it would no work.

To my mind there is not much difference between that and me buying a Wii game and putting it into my 360. Same format of disc but because of the differences in unit they it will not run.

So how is different (Mac OS/Microsoft OS) and different (Xbox 360 and Wii) the same?

--because I'm such a huge fan of demotivs--

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

a pc is not defined by its operating system. it means personal computer.

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I realize this has been discussed already, and at length. My question is still that if I were to log onto amazon.com right now and buy the Macintosh version of Starcraft 2 and try to install it on my computer (running Windows 7 64-bit) it would no work.

To my mind there is not much difference between that and me buying a Wii game and putting it into my 360. Same format of disc but because of the differences in unit they it will not run.

So how is different (Mac OS/Microsoft OS) and different (Xbox 360 and Wii) the same?

--because I'm such a huge fan of demotivs--

it's just the nature of the pc. it's not uniform like the consoles are.

I realize this has been discussed already, and at length. My question is still that if I were to log onto amazon.com right now and buy the Macintosh version of Starcraft 2 and try to install it on my computer (running Windows 7 64-bit) it would no work.

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It would, since SC2 ships on a single disk that includes XP, Vista, 7 and Mac.

Failed homework, sir.

Maybe this will stop the whole "console exclusive" talk.. How about you also include "console graphics king" while your at it?

I swear both of those terms, excuse my language, just piss me off. -_-

sanim02

When people say "this is the best looking game on console" they don't necessarily mean "this particular PC game looks worse".

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a pc is not defined by its operating system. it means personal computer.

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I realize this has been discussed already, and at length. My question is still that if I were to log onto amazon.com right now and buy the Macintosh version of Starcraft 2 and try to install it on my computer (running Windows 7 64-bit) it would no work.

To my mind there is not much difference between that and me buying a Wii game and putting it into my 360. Same format of disc but because of the differences in unit they it will not run.

So how is different (Mac OS/Microsoft OS) and different (Xbox 360 and Wii) the same?

--because I'm such a huge fan of demotivs--

And also Starcraft 2 works on both Mac and Windows, you dont need to buy a new game.

I agree with what Casey pointed out in the OP.

But in the end, this is anarchy, and if someone would like to use a "console exclusive" such as Left 4 Dead in a debate that specifically involves PS3 and 360, then they should be free to. The PC definitely counts, but that doesn't mean we can't have micro-comparisons between two platforms.

Maybe this will stop the whole "console exclusive" talk.. How about you also include "console graphics king" while your at it?

I swear both of those terms, excuse my language, just piss me off. -_-

sanim02

ALL graphics kings topics are pointless. There's no such thing as king, only different styies of creative art direction.

"which console has the best gamepad?" is fine. "which console looks the nicest" is fine.

the wii is most definitely NOT excluded. if it had a game that qualified, it would be perfectly welcome. what is so ridiculous?

CaseyWegner

Guess I'm just a little confused by rule #2 as it's the least explained. What qualifies as not counting the PC or any other system for that matter? Is leaving the PC out of a graphics thread not counting it? Because we certainly see a lot of console graphics king threads here.

All the other rules are pretty well explained and fair. "Console exclusive" is certainly a silly term and PC is definitely not a MS platform.

I agree with what Casey pointed out in the OP.

But in the end, this is anarchy, and if someone would like to use a "console exclusive" such as Left 4 Dead in a debate that specifically involves PS3 and 360, then they should be free to. The PC definitely counts, but that doesn't mean we can't have micro-comparisons between two platforms.

TREAL_Since

i already said it's okay. just don't call it a console exclusive.

I agree with what Casey pointed out in the OP.

But in the end, this is anarchy, and if someone would like to use a "console exclusive" such as Left 4 Dead in a debate that specifically involves PS3 and 360, then they should be free to. The PC definitely counts, but that doesn't mean we can't have micro-comparisons between two platforms.

TREAL_Since

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

a pc is not defined by its operating system. it means personal computer.

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I realize this has been discussed already, and at length. My question is still that if I were to log onto amazon.com right now and buy the Macintosh version of Starcraft 2 and try to install it on my computer (running Windows 7 64-bit) it would no work.

To my mind there is not much difference between between that and me buying a Wii game and putting it into my 360. Same format of disc but because of the differences in unit they it will not run.

So how is different (Mac OS/Microsoft OS) and different (Xbox 360 and Wii) the same?

--because I'm such a huge fan of demotivs--

I thought everyone knew this.

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I agree with what Casey pointed out in the OP.

But in the end, this is anarchy, and if someone would like to use a "console exclusive" such as Left 4 Dead in a debate that specifically involves PS3 and 360, then they should be free to. The PC definitely counts, but that doesn't mean we can't have micro-comparisons between two platforms.

smokeydabear076

it's just the nature of the pc. it's not uniform like the consoles are.

CaseyWegner

Maybe I missed a beat, but how is the PC "nature" so different to that of a console.

--To all other System Wars users: Don't care what you have to say, I only want to read Casey's rebuttal/answer.

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it's just the nature of the pc. it's not uniform like the consoles are.

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Maybe I missed a beat, but how is the PC "nature" so different to that of a console.

--To all other System Wars users: Don't care what you have to say, I only want to read Casey's rebuttal/answer.

I didn't know that exiling the pc was against the rules i honestly feel thats a silly rule. But i guess we have no choice buy to abide by it on swbigboss5ak

Thanks. Now I can shut my Microsoft fanboy freinds up.

EDIT: Harsh, Champ! :lol:

IppoTenma

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it's just the nature of the pc. it's not uniform like the consoles are.

Maybe I missed a beat, but how is the PC "nature" so different to that of a console.

--To all other System Wars users: Don't care what you have to say, I only want to read Casey's rebuttal/answer.

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it's just the nature of the pc. it's not uniform like the consoles are.

toast_burner

Maybe I missed a beat, but how is the PC "nature" so different to that of a console.

--To all other System Wars users: Don't care what you have to say, I only want to read Casey's rebuttal/answer.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it's just the nature of the pc. it's not uniform like the consoles are.

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Maybe I missed a beat, but how is the PC "nature" so different to that of a console.

--To all other System Wars users: Don't care what you have to say, I only want to read Casey's rebuttal/answer.

a console is a closed platform. the pc is an open platform. a console will have the same basic components for its entire lifespan. the pc as a platform is always changing and can be made up of many different configurations.

[QUOTE="IppoTenma"]

Thanks. Now I can shut my Microsoft fanboy freinds up.

EDIT: Harsh, Champ! :lol:

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]I didn't know that exiling the pc was against the rules i honestly feel thats a silly rule. But i guess we have no choice buy to abide by it on swmo0ksi

a console is a closed platform. the pc is an open platform. a console will have the same basic components for its entire lifespan. the pc as a platform is always changing and can be made up of many different configurations.

CaseyWegner

So what makes a PC so different, and the subsequent fact that the OS a game is released on is pretty much meaningless, is based entirely around the user and their choice, or potential lack thereof, to modify their PC?

How does that change that one version of a game being released on a "Macintosh PC" is different than a version being released on a "Microsoft PC"?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

a console is a closed platform. the pc is an open platform. a console will have the same basic components for its entire lifespan. the pc as a platform is always changing and can be made up of many different configurations.

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So what makes a PC so different, and the subsequent fact that the OS a game is released on is pretty much meaningless, is based entirely around the user and their choice, or potential lack thereof, to modify their PC?

How does that change that one version of a game being released on a "Macintosh PC" is different than a version being released on a "Microsoft PC"?

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]I didn't know that exiling the pc was against the rules i honestly feel thats a silly rule. But i guess we have no choice buy to abide by it on swbigboss5ak

[QUOTE="IppoTenma"]

Thanks. Now I can shut my Microsoft fanboy freinds up.

EDIT: Harsh, Champ! :lol:

WilliamRLBaker

You're talking about the God of War Collection and the Sly Collection?

Yeah they're multiplats.

on the PS2 and PS3.

Same can be said for the Nintendo Wii, The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time and A Link to the Past are Multiplats.(OoT: N64, Gamecube, Wii; ALttP SNES, GBA, Wii)

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a console is a closed platform. the pc is an open platform. a console will have the same basic components for its entire lifespan. the pc as a platform is always changing and can be made up of many different configurations.

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So what makes a PC so different, and the subsequent fact that the OS a game is released on is pretty much meaningless, is based entirely around the user and their choice, or potential lack thereof, to modify their PC?

How does that change that one version of a game being released on a "Macintosh PC" is different than a version being released on a "Microsoft PC"?

i don't quite understand what you're asking here.

So what makes a PC so different, and the subsequent fact that the OS a game is released on is pretty much meaningless, is based entirely around the user and their choice, or potential lack thereof, to modify their PC?

How does that change that one version of a game being released on a "Macintosh PC" is different than a version being released on a "Microsoft PC"?

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They don't change at all. Period. A PC game is a PC game and that changes NOTHING.

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a console is a closed platform. the pc is an open platform. a console will have the same basic components for its entire lifespan. the pc as a platform is always changing and can be made up of many different configurations.

CaseyWegner

So what makes a PC so different, and the subsequent fact that the OS a game is released on is pretty much meaningless, is based entirely around the user and their choice, or potential lack thereof, to modify their PC?

How does that change that one version of a game being released on a "Macintosh PC" is different than a version being released on a "Microsoft PC"?

i don't quite understand what you're asking here.

You said that the difference between PCs and consoles is that one open to change, so to say, (you can swap your PCs parts) and you cannot do that to a console.

My main question is that why are the OSs treated as same, when it comes to games (Starcraft 2), when they are not. One version of Starcraft 2 is not the same as the other, and in my mind it is the exact same thing as, say, Red Dead Redemption for the PS3 and 360. Unless you have both Microsoft and Macintosh OSs you will not be able to either version of Starcraft just like you are not able to play either version of Red Dead Redemption unless you have both a PS3 and 360.

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So what makes a PC so different, and the subsequent fact that the OS a game is released on is pretty much meaningless, is based entirely around the user and their choice, or potential lack thereof, to modify their PC?

How does that change that one version of a game being released on a "Macintosh PC" is different than a version being released on a "Microsoft PC"?

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i don't quite understand what you're asking here.

You said that the difference between PCs and consoles is that one open to change, so to say, (you can swap your PCs parts) and you cannot do that to a console.

My main question is that why are the OSs treated as same, when it comes to games (Starcraft 2), when they are not. One version of Starcraft 2 is not the same as the other, and in my mind it is the exact same thing as, say, Red Dead Redemption for the PS3 and 360. Unless you have both Microsoft and Macintosh OSs you will not be able to either version of Starcraft just like you are not able to play either version of Red Dead Redemption unless you have both a PS3 and 360.

it's still because systems aren't defined by their operating systems.

You said that the difference between PCs and consoles is that one open to change, so to say, (you can swap your PCs parts) and you cannot do that to a console.

My main question is that why are the OSs treated as same, when it comes to games (Starcraft 2), when they are not. One version of Starcraft 2 is not the same as the other, and in my mind it is the exact same thing as, say, Red Dead Redemption for the PS3 and 360. Unless you have both Microsoft and Macintosh OSs you will not be able to either version of Starcraft just like you are not able to play either version of Red Dead Redemption unless you have both a PS3 and 360.

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Do you treat differently ATI and nVidia GPUs?

Intel and AMD CPUs?

Foxconn, Asus, GIGABYTE mobos?

So...MLB10 The Show is not exclusive since it's on PSP? ;)Heil68

Generally, that doesn't count. The differences between consoles and handhelds are so great that it is impossible to actually claim that a game is the same on both.

it's still because systems aren't defined by their operating systems.

CaseyWegner

So the PC...is any general-purposecomputerwhose size, capabilities, and original sales price make it useful for individuals, and which is intended to be operated directly by an end user with no intervening computer operator.

That is the first sentence on the Wiki page for the PC.

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it's still because systems aren't defined by their operating systems.

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So the PC...is any general-purposecomputerwhose size, capabilities, and original sales price make it useful for individuals, and which is intended to be operated directly by an end user with no intervening computer operator.

That is the first sentence on the Wiki page for the PC.

seems a bit fancy.

i really disagree with the console exclusive thing but its all good :P