Things System Wars People Need to Know

After this thread, System Wars. Will NEVER. Be. The same. Just thought I'd put that out there :) SilverChimera

I'm kind of lost on the significance of this thread. I just read a list of things I already knewBPoole96

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] I'm kind of lost on the significance of this thread. I just read a list of things I already knew-DarthMaul-

I see. I guess this would be more useful to newer users

Was this thread made in response to the mass effect 2(ps3) thread?

Great thread, CaseyWegner. I hope this pwns some n00bs into oblivion.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

did you miss the mass effect 2 thread?

Sky-

I saw it, and it brought the lulz. While the allegations about Mass Effect 2's exclusiveness were ultimately untrue, SW needs some mayhem to disrupt the monotony once in a while. Real estate in the SW stickies is expensive and in limited supply, and I think this space could be better used to include something more pertinent to SW, like the Metroid Other M Hype Thread.

Some people are just too" PC " these days..

Politically correct. :P

Anyway, good post and you've been saying it for years but it's good to see it as a sticky.

Was this thread made in response to the mass effect 2(ps3) thread?

mccoyca112

that and a general trend that's been developing.

Also can we establish that Vgchartz is just lies? It's always bugged many SW users when it gets mentioned and it gets mentioned frequently.mystervj

So basically there's no point is SW anymore? Every argument will end with "PC is better" or "PC version is better"? Can we change the tile of this board to "Exclusive Wars" then? Because I don't see the point in "System Wars" if every argument will end the same way. :?xsubtownerx

While we are on the topic of things System Wars people need to know, how about adding that North America = / = The World. I hate when people bring up NPD to claim ownage forgetting the world is larger than just the US.II_Seraphim_II

EDIT or for that matter in an NPD thread people coming in and saying NPD =/= world. Its an NPD thread for discussion of those results and not the unknown quantity in the rest of the world.

"5. An already multiplat game going to another system is not an exclusive lost for any system the game was originally on."

It's really sad that this needed to be said, but it needed to be said.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]While we are on the topic of things System Wars people need to know, how about adding that North America = / = The World. I hate when people bring up NPD to claim ownage forgetting the world is larger than just the US.blue_hazy_basic

EDIT or for that matter in an NPD thread people coming in and saying NPD =/= world. Its an NPD thread for discussion of those results and not the unknown quantity in the rest of the world.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]So basically there's no point is SW anymore? Every argument will end with "PC is better" or "PC version is better"? Can we change the tile of this board to "Exclusive Wars" then? Because I don't see the point in "System Wars" if every argument will end the same way. :?blue_hazy_basic

Don't get everyone's beef with the term console exclusive. It's just another way of saying, "the 360 has this game but PS3 and Wii don't, hence 360 has an advantage HA" (it can be vice versa as well). Console exclusive is just a term used because it's short and it'smeaning is understood. Is there really a problem with that? A guess now we have to say that ME2 used to be a "Console unshared game":? Some of this seems a bit silly IMO.

Don't get everyone's beef with the term console exclusive. It's just another way of saying, "the 360 has this game but PS3 and Wii don't, hence 360 has an advantage HA" (it can be vice versa as well). Console exclusive is just a term used because it's short and it'smeaning is understood. Is there really a problem with that? A guess now we have to say that ME2 used to be a "Console unshared game":? Some of this seems a bit silly IMO.

Giant_Panda

becauuse it leaves out the pc.

Can we exclude sales talk from this forum as well. To be honest what's the benefit in talking sales anyway ?carlisledavid79

Its interesting and a part of the industry.

So if the PC is being left out, then maybe the discussion in question wasn't meant to have the PC in it? What is the problem in that? The PC, and every other system for that matter,shouldn't be a system thathasto be a system that you include, it should be a system that youhave the option to include. My main point is: Not all discussions should have to include all systems. People leave out systems all the time, and no one seems to care most of the time. Handhelds are left out all the time for example. If people only want to compare certain systems they should be able to as long as they realize how a system fares in a 1v1 match won't reflect how it does over all when everything is included.

As an analogy people do not compare every car in existence with one another at the same time. Not every cell phone is compared with each other at the same time. Two TV shows often get compared to one another, instead of comparing every show in existence.

If threads were only limited to including all platforms, then 95% of the threads here don't belong, andall future threads would be incredibly predictable. Not all discussions should have to include all systems. If you actually go through with trying to make this an real rule you'll only be hurting the activity of this board, and in return GameSpot itself.

(@Casey: Like I said before console exclusives aren't actually exclusive, everyone just uses that term because it is the easiest way of explaining things.)

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]So basically there's no point is SW anymore? Every argument will end with "PC is better" or "PC version is better"? Can we change the tile of this board to "Exclusive Wars" then? Because I don't see the point in "System Wars" if every argument will end the same way. :?xsubtownerx

While we are on the topic of things System Wars people need to know, how about adding that North America = / = The World. I hate when people bring up NPD to claim ownage forgetting the world is larger than just the US.II_Seraphim_II

EDIT or for that matter in an NPD thread people coming in and saying NPD =/= world. Its an NPD thread for discussion of those results and not the unknown quantity in the rest of the world.

So if the PC is being left out, then maybe the discussion in question wasn't meant to have the PC in it? What is the problem in that? The PC, and every other system for that matter,shouldn't be a system thathasto be a system that you include, it should be a system that youhave the option to include. My main point is: Not all discussions should have to include all systems. People leave out systems all the time, and no one seems to care most of the time. Handhelds are left out all the time for example. If people only want to compare certain systems they should be able to as long as they realize how a system fares in a 1v1 match won't reflect how it does over all when everything is included.

As an analogy people do not compare every car in existence with one another at the same time. Not every cell phone is compared with each other at the same time. Two TV shows often get compared to one another, instead of comparing every show in existence.

If threads were only limited to including all platforms, then 95% of the threads here don't belong, andall future threads would be incredibly predictable. Not all discussions should have to include all systems. If you actually go through with trying to make this an real rule you'll only be hurting the activity of this board, and in return GameSpot itself.

(@Casey: Like I said before console exclusives aren't actually exclusive, everyone just uses that term because it is the easiest way of explaining things.)

[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Can we exclude sales talk from this forum as well. To be honest what's the benefit in talking sales anyway ?ActicEdge

Its interesting and a part of the industry.

Can we exclude sales talk from this forum as well. To be honest what's the benefit in talking sales anyway ?carlisledavid79

Its interesting and a part of the industry.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Can we exclude sales talk from this forum as well. To be honest what's the benefit in talking sales anyway ?carlisledavid79

Its interesting and a part of the industry.

That's more our fault as a community than an actual problem with the topic. I would make some sales threads but not to much is interesting anymore.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] or that Japan =/= the rest of the world as I see in every reply to what you're talking about.

EDIT or for that matter in an NPD thread people coming in and saying NPD =/= world. Its an NPD thread for discussion of those results and not the unknown quantity in the rest of the world.

blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] If we "have" to count the PC I don't see why we don't "have" to count worldwide in those discussions. It's the same exclusion to give something an advantage principle. This is all pointless if it's not part of the TOU anyway imo, good luck getting people- especially the "low levels"- to follow optional rules.Floppy_Jim

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] NPD doesn't give sales data for PC sales, so why would it be relevant to an NPD thread?blue_hazy_basic

True that. It doesn't need to be ww figures though, I mean a nerdrage virtually erupts when JP is brought into NPD or UK threads & vice versa.

Anyhoo this is getting off topic. This thread still won't change much.

they are only banning the term "console exclusive" (it doesn't really make any sense at all the term) X system vs Y system is still allowed, to compare its respectives librariesGiancar

Oh, I misunderstood his answer then:oops:, but I still think console exclusiveshould be used because it's the best term that we've got around here for itas far as I've seen.

Can we exclude sales talk from this forum as well. To be honest what's the benefit in talking sales anyway ?carlisledavid79

@blue_hazy_basic, the Japanese (Media Create) and European sales numbers, unlike the NPD data, are weekly.