THINKER: Will Ocarina of Time ever be dethroned as the best game ever?

Once you take the childhood pink goggles off, you will realize that Majora's Mask, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess are all better games than Ocarina of Time. Nostalgia plays a huge role in so many people claiming Ocarina as the "best game ever." Just because it was your first experience, doesn't mean it is the best.

foxhound_fox

LOL, people saying OOT never was the best game ever! haha, I think they never played it when it came out!

It still is, in my opinion, the best game ever! And that has nothing to do with nostalgie! It just was the best! If i play a game now that would be better i would notice!

I think it"s one of the dummest excuses i've ever heard here!! The game was awsome, for many the best game ever, and nostalgie has nothing to do with it! There were other games i loved too back then, but now they have been beaten! It's not that i ignore that, why would we ignore it then with OOT? because it hasn't happened in my opinion!

Ever? That honor goes to Streets of Rage 2 for me. I do love Ocarina of Time though; it along with SSB are definitely my favorite games for N64.

if you mean dethroned as from being the highest RATED game, then I doubt it, as there are too many reviewers and there are bound to be more quirky ones which will bring down the score for the game. If you count scores only till the number of reviews OOT received (i.e 30-40) GTA IV already displaced it

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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"] Ummm... Since when was Zelda Orarina of Time the best game ever?

TechGuru89

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Maybe this year? Maybe next?

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Emaldon117

Is OOT the best game ever ? I did not know that. I thought that many other games have many sweet spots too and are equally important as OOT

I would also put Kings Quest games above OOT anytime

In my mind, Zelda Ocarina of Time will be the greatest game ever made.

I think no other game really impacted the industry and changed the way we play or think of games today than Zelda Ocarina of Time. Because of that significance, I think it'll remain as the greatest game.

It's also probably the most influential and the most important game ever made that's for sure.

LOL, people saying OOT never was the best game ever! haha, I think they never played it when it came out!vlens

I think the idea of "best" is lost on people. Here is an example. Let's say the 1932 Duesenberg Model J was the best car ever. This was a luxury car that could break 150mph in 1932 (something many street cars can't even do today). So why aren't we still building Duesenbergs today and driving them instead of Bentleys and Jags? Because Duesenbergs were merely GOOD FOR THEIR time. If someone asked me to find them the best car ever, I'm not going to point them to a 77 year old model unless it truely was better than every other car ever made. Likewise, if someone wanted to play the best game ever, I wouldn't point them to OOT.

I think the idea of "best" is lost on people. Here is an example. Let's say the 1932 Duesenberg Model J was the best car ever. This was a luxury car that could break 150mph in 1932 (something many street cars can't even do today). So why aren't we still building Duesenbergs today and driving them instead of Bentleys and Jags? Because Duesenbergs were merely GOOD FOR THEIR time. If someone asked me to find them the best car ever, I'm not going to point them to a 77 year old model unless it truely was better than every other car ever made. Likewise, if someone wanted to play the best game ever, I wouldn't point them to OOT.

juno84

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I think the idea of "best" is lost on people. Here is an example. Let's say the 1932 Duesenberg Model J was the best car ever. This was a luxury car that could break 150mph in 1932 (something many street cars can't even do today). So why aren't we still building Duesenbergs today and driving them instead of Bentleys and Jags? Because Duesenbergs were merely GOOD FOR THEIR time. If someone asked me to find them the best car ever, I'm not going to point them to a 77 year old model unless it truely was better than every other car ever made. Likewise, if someone wanted to play the best game ever, I wouldn't point them to OOT.

VideoGameGuy

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I think the idea of "best" is lost on people. Here is an example. Let's say the 1932 Duesenberg Model J was the best car ever. This was a luxury car that could break 150mph in 1932 (something many street cars can't even do today). So why aren't we still building Duesenbergs today and driving them instead of Bentleys and Jags? Because Duesenbergs were merely GOOD FOR THEIR time. If someone asked me to find them the best car ever, I'm not going to point them to a 77 year old model unless it truely was better than every other car ever made. Likewise, if someone wanted to play the best game ever, I wouldn't point them to OOT.

VideoGameGuy

Ironically, gameplay is not the only thing video games consist of. OP title is not "best gameplay ever", and even if it were, that title wouldn't belong to OOT. The only objective title OOT holds is highest rating on gamerankings.

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="juno84"]

I think the idea of "best" is lost on people. Here is an example. Let's say the 1932 Duesenberg Model J was the best car ever. This was a luxury car that could break 150mph in 1932 (something many street cars can't even do today). So why aren't we still building Duesenbergs today and driving them instead of Bentleys and Jags? Because Duesenbergs were merely GOOD FOR THEIR time. If someone asked me to find them the best car ever, I'm not going to point them to a 77 year old model unless it truely was better than every other car ever made. Likewise, if someone wanted to play the best game ever, I wouldn't point them to OOT.

juno84

Ironically, gameplay is not the only thing video games consist of. OP title is not "best gameplay ever", and even if it were, that title wouldn't belong to OOT. The only objective title OOT holds is highest rating on gamerankings.

Alot of the time older games dominate the "best of" lists. You just can't argue with solid game play no matter what year it came out.VideoGameGuy

Alot of you seem to be missing the point though, Ocarina of time is the best game ever because it changed so much in video games, alot of new ideas came from the game, it even pushed the current gen technology to a high standard, (Umm I think either PD or Conquers bad fur day maxed out that gen), that's pretty much why alot of people liked the game so much, alot of the stuff nad never been seen before, which is also similar for Halo and GTA since they were big jumps in their directions, Halo Defined Action in Shooters, Fast Melee, inventive weapon (yes there is only one) and regenerating health, GTA redefined sandbox games, also alot of the stuff that came around from zelda is used in alot of other games, context sensitivity targeting system, there is more just not of the top of my head. there that is why, you may like another game more but that game didn't make a gigantic impact, No Final Fantasy PS era did not influence RPG gameplay mechanics enough, IMO Star Ocean was more inventive and individual it was just released too late, and only in Japan.

TP has some new stuff, just alot of people don't notice, the technique that is used to create the anime eyes in zelda should be the standard I'm amazed no-one has really adopted it

Alot of you seem to be missing the point though, Ocarina of time is the best game ever because it changed so much in video games, alot of new ideas came from the game, it even pushed the current gen technology to a high standard, (Umm I think either PD or Conquers bad fur day maxed out that gen), that's pretty much why alot of people liked the game so much, alot of the stuff nad never been seen before, which is also similar for Halo and GTA since they were big jumps in their directions, Halo Defined Action in Shooters, Fast Melee, inventive weapon (yes there is only one) and regenerating health, GTA redefined sandbox games, also alot of the stuff that came around from zelda is used in alot of other games, context sensitivity targeting system, there is more just not of the top of my head. there that is why, you may like another game more but that game didn't make a gigantic impact, No Final Fantasy PS era did not influence RPG gameplay mechanics enough, IMO Star Ocean was more inventive and individual it was just released too late, and only in Japan.

TP has some new stuff, just alot of people don't notice, the technique that is used to create the anime eyes in zelda should be the standard I'm amazed no-one has really adopted it

Master_Bland

Alot of you seem to be missing the point though, Ocarina of time is the best game ever because it changed so much in video games, alot of new ideas came from the game, it even pushed the current gen technology to a high standard, (Umm I think either PD or Conquers bad fur day maxed out that gen), that's pretty much why alot of people liked the game so much, alot of the stuff nad never been seen before, which is also similar for Halo and GTA since they were big jumps in their directions, Halo Defined Action in Shooters, Fast Melee, inventive weapon (yes there is only one) and regenerating health, GTA redefined sandbox games, also alot of the stuff that came around from zelda is used in alot of other games, context sensitivity targeting system, there is more just not of the top of my head. there that is why, you may like another game more but that game didn't make a gigantic impact, No Final Fantasy PS era did not influence RPG gameplay mechanics enough, IMO Star Ocean was more inventive and individual it was just released too late, and only in Japan.

TP has some new stuff, just alot of people don't notice, the technique that is used to create the anime eyes in zelda should be the standard I'm amazed no-one has really adopted it

Master_Bland

Yes, Zelda OOT did many things, but you can't simply say it is the best game ever, since it could never be the best adventure or RPG, it is just best in 3D action adventure titles, and nowhere else

You have to realise not everyone thinks Ocarina of Time is the best game ever I actually don't consider it the best Zelda game but its in the top 10 games of all time in my countdown.

never liked the old zeldas but i love the gamecube ones. but the n64 ones i did not enjoy at all.

OoT has been dethroned by the almost every Zelda after it...

Nothing shall dethrone it from most overrated game ever though.

OoT has been dethroned by the almost every Zelda after it...

Nothing shall dethrone it from most overrated game ever though.

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OoT has been dethroned by the almost every Zelda after it...

Nothing shall dethrone it from most overrated game ever though.

IronBass

MGS4 fits that description much better.

Alot of you seem to be missing the point though, Ocarina of time is the best game ever because it changed so much in video games, alot of new ideas came from the game, it even pushed the current gen technology to a high standard, (Umm I think either PD or Conquers bad fur day maxed out that gen), that's pretty much why alot of people liked the game so much, alot of the stuff nad never been seen before, which is also similar for Halo and GTA since they were big jumps in their directions, Halo Defined Action in Shooters, Fast Melee, inventive weapon (yes there is only one) and regenerating health, GTA redefined sandbox games, also alot of the stuff that came around from zelda is used in alot of other games, context sensitivity targeting system, there is more just not of the top of my head. there that is why, you may like another game more but that game didn't make a gigantic impact, No Final Fantasy PS era did not influence RPG gameplay mechanics enough, IMO Star Ocean was more inventive and individual it was just released too late, and only in Japan.

TP has some new stuff, just alot of people don't notice, the technique that is used to create the anime eyes in zelda should be the standard I'm amazed no-one has really adopted it

Master_Bland

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

OoT has been dethroned by the almost every Zelda after it...

Nothing shall dethrone it from most overrated game ever though.

MGS4 fits that description much better.

OoT never had that throne. No game does and no game will ever be the greatest game. For it's time you can probably say it's the best of its genre, but now time came and beat the living crap out of OoT for more than a decade now. Even if you want to talk strictly the franchise, each Zelda game that had been released later surpassed the game, Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, and even the Oracle games were better.

I also loved OoT, a lot. But it's way past its prime now.

Ocarina of Time isn't "the best game ever" - it was a good game for its time. By modern standards, however, it's not particularly impressive. I would say in the "long view" of things, Link to the Past is still the better game.subrosian

I always thought OOT was boring. I enjoyed Link to the Past a lot more. I think OOT has been "Dethroned" many times since it's release.

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Maybe this year? Maybe next?

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lebanese_boy

That's a matter of opinion personally when OoT came out I liked it as much as Super Mario 64 I dont think it's the holy grail of videogames just a good game.

super mario world pwns ocarina of time

Alot of you seem to be missing the point though, Ocarina of time is the best game ever because it changed so much in video games, alot of new ideas came from the game, it even pushed the current gen technology to a high standard, (Umm I think either PD or Conquers bad fur day maxed out that gen), that's pretty much why alot of people liked the game so much, alot of the stuff nad never been seen before, which is also similar for Halo and GTA since they were big jumps in their directions, Halo Defined Action in Shooters, Fast Melee, inventive weapon (yes there is only one) and regenerating health, GTA redefined sandbox games, also alot of the stuff that came around from zelda is used in alot of other games, context sensitivity targeting system, there is more just not of the top of my head. there that is why, you may like another game more but that game didn't make a gigantic impact, No Final Fantasy PS era did not influence RPG gameplay mechanics enough, IMO Star Ocean was more inventive and individual it was just released too late, and only in Japan.

TP has some new stuff, just alot of people don't notice, the technique that is used to create the anime eyes in zelda should be the standard I'm amazed no-one has really adopted it

Master_Bland

Metal Gear Solid
Thief: The Dark Project
Unreal
Banjo-Kazooie
Grim Fandango
Half Life
Starseige: Tribes

Those game did tons for gaming as well. Some of them, arguably far more. Especially in the case of Half Life, Metal Gear Solid and Tribes. Half Life revolutionized single player shooters and created the cinematic method of story telling in shooters. Metal Gear integrated movie-like cinematics into gaming, first one to ever do it on such a massive scale. And Tribes, revolutionized online shooter gameplay.

Well OoT being the best game ever is an opinion. My fav. Game of all time is MGS4.

ON gamerankings who knows if it will ever be dethroned.

[QUOTE="ManifestoJoe"]I simply do not understand peoples fascination of that game or any of the other Zeldas for that matter.404-not-found

You seem to forget all the other games that were released in 1998.

Metal Gear Solid
Thief: The Dark Project
Unreal
Banjo-Kazooie
Grim Fandango
Half Life
Starseige: Tribes

Those game did tons for gaming as well. Some of them, arguably far more. Especially in the case of Half Life, Metal Gear Solid and Tribes. Half Life revolutionized single player shooters and created the cinematic method of story telling in shooters. Metal Gear integrated movie-like cinematics into gaming, first one to ever do it on such a massive scale. And Tribes, revolutionized online shooter gameplay.

foxhound_fox

Metroid Prime, plus a couple other games, through OoT didn't beat SM64, A Link tothe Past, and Half Life.

There is loads of games that can be considered the best ever. Super Mario Bros 3,Super Mario World,Super Metroid,Zelda A Link to the Past,Wind Waker,Twilight Princess,Metroid Prime,Super Mario Galaxy,Resident Evil 4,Metal Gear Solid 4 there's basically loads of games that are probably better than Ocarina of Time to some people.

I don't think it is the best game ever because it hasn't aged as well as the likes of Super Mario World or Super Mario Bros 3.

Best game ever is a matter of opinion. OoT was a great game, but not one of my favorites.

^ yes it's a matter of opinion - and you have to go by genre, and by time period

Best fighting game of X gen

Best RPG of X gen

eg. Best RPG of 5th Gen = FF7

Best Shooter of 5th Gen = Half-Life

can't compare half-life to killzone 2 - you can but the only thing a 5th could have over a 7th is story, which in this case it does

LOL, people saying OOT never was the best game ever! haha, I think they never played it when it came out!vlens

I agree, OOT is still the best action adventure i have played, the controls were just so perfect (thank god there was no Wii mote then) But i can argue that Kings Quest 6 and FF9 had far more to offer in story/adventure/puzzles and art than Zelda, and thus are better games for meobamanian

FFIX's art direction was hideous.

and was the worst FF of that gen