Third Party Support For The Wii U Gets Stronger- Are We Looking At Next Gen PS2?

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

I imagine you will be able to use the Wii Remote and Nunchuk for this,so I'm not complaining.

charizard1605

Playing any game on that crap controller would such, much less a FPSmillerlight89

If GoldenEye wii did sell really well on the console and CoD series too, im feeling d'that BF could work also.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Playing any game on that crap controller would such, much less a FPSMichael0134567

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Playing any game on that crap controller would such, much less a FPSmillerlight89

Playing shooters on the Wii U controller is going to be awful. Just sayin'.

DarkLink77

But will it have the full 64 player experience, the consoles cut-down 24, or maybe somewhere in the middle? 32? 48?

SOURCE:http://www.computerandvideogames.com/321798/previews/battlefield-3-returning-to-its-roots-on-wii-u/

Looks like EA wasn't kidding when it said that it would be fully supporting the Wii U. Is this a sign of better third party suppot for Nintendo's next console? EA, Ninja Theory, Rocksteady, Ubisoft, Activision, Irrational, Epic, Crytek, Bioware, Bethesda, Kojima, Konami, Team Ninja, Capcom and Gearbox have all already confirmed an interest in/projects in progress on the Wii U. Are we looking at what will, if handled correctly, become the next generation's PS2?

charizard1605

Super Battleifled WiiU?

If tethering Classic Controllers (or the equivalent) is made standard for Wii U games I could see it working really well that way; the Wii U controller itself seems too awkward to use for this sort of game, especially since it won't really benefit from the touch/motion capabilities anyway.

But will it have the full 64 player experience, the consoles cut-down 24, or maybe somewhere in the middle? 32? 48?

QQabitmoar

If it has dedicated servers as on the PC it could have the full player count since the hardware is more than capable of it, but if it's peer-to-peer (like most console games) the player count might still be reduced; many players don't have a good enough internet connection to reliably host that many players, which is a key reason why PC games use dedicated servers (the handful that don't are shunned).

If tethering Classic Controllers (or the equivalent) is made standard for Wii U games I could see it working really well that way; the Wii U controller itself seems too awkward to use for this sort of game, especially since it won't really benefit from the touch/motion capabilities anyway.

garrett_daniels

I can't wait to put my Mii into Battlefield 4: Bad Company 6!!-CheeseEater-

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

SOURCE:http://www.computerandvideogames.com/321798/previews/battlefield-3-returning-to-its-roots-on-wii-u/

Looks like EA wasn't kidding when it said that it would be fully supporting the Wii U. Is this a sign of better third party suppot for Nintendo's next console? EA, Ninja Theory, Rocksteady, Ubisoft, Activision, Irrational, Epic, Crytek, Bioware, Bethesda, Kojima, Konami, Team Ninja, Capcom and Gearbox have all already confirmed an interest in/projects in progress on the Wii U. Are we looking at what will, if handled correctly, become the next generation's PS2?

AzatiS

EA is really starting to milk this franchise...can't they take a break for a while without releasing a new Battlefield?

Playing shooters on the Wii U controller is going to be awful. Just sayin'.

DarkLink77

My bet is the Wii U will be closer to next gen's Xbox 360. It'll be less powerful than a competitor console that releases later but it'll become the lead platform for initial games causing multiplats to look best on Wii U. I also bet at least one console will go the Wii route.ActionRemix

Better have wiimote support or I'm not playing.

That controller can add soooooooo much to the tiring fps genre.

Heirren

How?

Wii U = The New Playstaion 2.

The PS2 was released a whole year and a half before the Xbox and Gamecube. Very familiar to now. Strong First Party Support.

If actually think about it, the cards are falling right in place with the past. Of course, if you ignore the Dreamcast, which was lacking a good amount of 3rd party. The Wii U is not lacking third party support from the getgo.

That should be intersting, wonder how the control will work with it.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]My bet is the Wii U will be closer to next gen's Xbox 360. It'll be less powerful than a competitor console that releases later but it'll become the lead platform for initial games causing multiplats to look best on Wii U. I also bet at least one console will go the Wii route.charizard1605

Wii U = The New Playstaion 2. The PS2 was released a whole year and a half before the Xbox and Gamecube. If actually think about it, the cards are falling right in place with the past. Of course, if you ignore the Dreamcast, which was lacking a good amount of 3rd party. The Wii U is not lacking third party support from the getgo.ShadowDeathX

Wii U = The New Playstaion 2. The PS2 was released a whole year and a half before the Xbox and Gamecube. If actually think about it, the cards are falling right in place with the past. Of course, if you ignore the Dreamcast, which was lacking a good amount of 3rd party. The Wii U is not lacking third party support from the getgo.ShadowDeathX

thats awesome the wiiu is getting alot of potential support actually somethig different for nintendo this time around

Btw, the "hardcore" did not buy the DS. The "expanded audience" did. If they got a portable, they got a PSP.ActionRemix

Now that's just strait up false.

Bro gamers aren't hardcore, they're casual.

Bro gamers aren't hardcore, they're casual.

goblaa

WiiU will be like 1.5 generations above the Wii. Id say Nintendo fans will jump pretty easy.mattuk69

Wii U's AMD Radeon HD 4xx0 (DX10.1/OpenCL/OpenGL 3.2/DX 11 Compute Shader Model 4.1) is more than 1.5 generation over Wii's GPU(about DX7 level).

AMD Radeon HD 4600(RV730)/4700(RV740)/4800(RV770) is part of AMD's 3rd generation unified shader GPU. It has enhanced tessellation hardware over AMD's second generation unified shader Radeon HD 2900(R600)/3800(RV670) and 1st generation unified shader Xenos GPU.

With AMD CTM (Close-To-Metal) thin layer, some beyond3d posters was able scoreover 1TFOPSon SGEMM benchmark i.e. on par with NVIDIA's Fermi (Geforce 480 GTX) compute processing. There's a trick to make RV770's stream processor's busy i.e. standard DX10 APIs would not max the RV770.

I want to believe this, but the big problem I see with this theory is attracting the "hardcore" crowd. At some point you gotta get them to buy this: ActionRemix

Imma hardcore, and was sold the minute that control was shown off.

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

WiiU will be like 1.5 generations above the Wii. Id say Nintendo fans will jump pretty easy.ronvalencia

Wii U's AMD Radeon HD 4xx0 (DX10.1/OpenCL/OpenGL 3.2/DX 11 Compute Shader Model 4.1) is more than 1.5 generation over Wii's GPU(about DX7 level).

AMD Radeon HD 4600(RV730)/4700(RV740)/4800(RV770) is part of AMD's 3rd generation unified shader GPU. It has enhanced tessellation hardware over AMD's second generation unified shader Radeon HD 2900(R600)/3800(RV670) and 1st generation unified shader Xenos GPU.

So, how much more powerful is it than the Wii? Say, two times? Three times?charizard1605

We don't know because we don't know the specs. Nintendo never releases hardware info remember?

We don't know because we don't know the specs. Nintendo never releases hardware info remember?

ChubbyGuy40

There's no way that system is only 1.5 x more powerful than the Wii and can output either the Zelda or Japanese Garden tech demos at 1080p 60fps. It must be closer to 5 x more powerful than the 360/PS3.ActionRemix

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

WiiU will be like 1.5 generations above the Wii. Id say Nintendo fans will jump pretty easy.charizard1605

Wii U's AMD Radeon HD 4xx0 (DX10.1/OpenCL/OpenGL 3.2/DX 11 Compute Shader Model 4.1) is more than 1.5 generation over Wii's GPU(about DX7 level).

AMD Radeon HD 4600(RV730)/4700(RV740)/4800(RV770) is part of AMD's 3rd generation unified shader GPU. It has enhanced tessellation hardware over AMD's second generation unified shader Radeon HD 2900(R600)/3800(RV670) and 1st generation unified shader Xenos GPU.

More than 3 times i.e. compare Radeon 7500(DX7) vs Radeon HD 4770 (DX10.1/DX11 CS4.1).

Radeon HD 4770 (RV740 has 640 stream processors and 16 ROPs) is already up to date with GDDR5 (128bits bus wide) and TSMC's 40 nm process tech. In terms of power and heat, RV740 can fitted into Wii U's size case.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

Wii U's AMD Radeon HD 4xx0 (DX10.1/OpenCL/OpenGL 3.2/DX 11 Compute Shader Model 4.1) is more than 1.5 generation over Wii's GPU(about DX7 level).

AMD Radeon HD 4600(RV730)/4700(RV740)/4800(RV770) is part of AMD's 3rd generation unified shader GPU. It has enhanced tessellation hardware over AMD's second generation unified shader Radeon HD 2900(R600)/3800(RV670) and 1st generation unified shader Xenos GPU.

ronvalencia

More than 3 times i.e. compare Radeon 7500(DX7) vs Radeon HD 4770 (DX10.1/DX11 CS4.1).

Radeon HD 4770 (RV740 has 640 stream processors and 16 ROPs) is already up to date with GDDR5 (128bits bus wide) and TSMC's 40 nm process tech. In terms of power and heat, RV740 can fitted into Wii U's size case.

Five times more powerful? Isn't that a bit too optimistic?charizard1605

Nope. Consoles only have 512MB RAM total. Get about 1GB of video memory, 2GB of system RAM, and a large CPU cache and the system will be a speed demon. Not to mention they will use faster RAM also. The CPU of PS3/360 will be 7 years old by the time Wii-U launches. The GPUs are also extremely weak. An AMD 4850 will smash whatever the hd twins have.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Five times more powerful? Isn't that a bit too optimistic?ChubbyGuy40

Nope. Consoles only have 512MB RAM total. Get about 1GB of video memory, 2GB of system RAM, and a large CPU cache and the system will be a speed demon. Not to mention they will use faster RAM also. The CPU of PS3/360 will be 7 years old by the time Wii-U launches. The GPUs are also extremely weak. An AMD 4850 will smash whatever the hd twins have.

Five times more powerful? Isn't that a bit too optimistic?charizard1605