This generation just isn't that good period

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#51 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Xbox 360 and PS3 combo suck compared to the Xbox and PS2 combo of last gen. Practically every genre is dead  besides generic shooters.

Platformers? Dead. There's like 2 outGaming_Guru_Guy

Wow, This is the first decent thread I've seen from you.Congratulations You're right of course, shooters have become the norm. That's what happens when little more sells on the 360PS3. The consoles themselves are pretty much just cheapy PC's as well. The only decent systems this gen are handhelds However the original XBox was garbage. It was worse than EVERY console this gen (including thE Wii) and one of the worst consoles ever amde

Your comments about the first XBOX are so absurd I cannot believe you actually hit the submit button. I have to say the first XBOX may have been one of the best consoles I have personally ever enjoyed and I have had pretty much all of them. The intro of XBOX Live alone pretty much whooped the competition in mine and my friends eyes. I still remember 8 hour Mechassault online marathons or Rallisport 1 splitscreen we would all play for hours the first Rainbow six game online which was great. The feeling I had the first time we brought down a building online in mechassault was something I had never forgotten. I had down some PC online gamer prior but it was nowhere as interesting or streamlined as Live was I knew nothing was gonna be the same after that and I was right. 

Subjectivity.

I played PC online games during the psone, n64 era, and gave Xbox Live a shot at the end of last gen, and during this gen - year and a half this gen, and found it not nearly as good as gaming online on my computer, which offered a far deeper and satisfying online experience.

Go figure really :?

Oh and MechAssault. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY *throws fists in the air*

Where was I.. Oh yeah, the xbox was a great console, though I still think the Ps2 was the best of last generation.

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Your comments about the first XBOX are so absurd I cannot believe you actually hit the submit button. I have to say the first XBOX may have been one of the best consoles I have personally ever enjoyed and I have had pretty much all of them. Gaming_Guru_Guy

Well I'd have to say it's not It had barely any good exclusives to speak of.

It was only really good for playing multiplats or homebrew. The controller was garbage, it was the size of a house, the crappy paid for online was nothing special and still isn't (even though lemmings have convinced themselves it's the best thing ever and continue to pay for it). I've owned every console last gen. I've owned every console this gen, and I can say unequivacolly that the 360, Wii and PS3 smoke the original Xbox in almost every way

 

As for PC gaming is much more effort than watered down PC gaming, that's the price you pay for the superior experience

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#53 eklineage
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well this gen is heavily catering to the fps lovers. So fps gamers will probably find this gen is the best. Racing fans will probably say the same thing. FPS has been improved greatly sincel ast gen. Wrpgs have also made a big leap. Jrpgs on the other hand are very few in number and only a select few are quality ones. So jrpg fans like myself might feel a bit disappointed.

With this example, every individual might have a different opinion due to varying gaming interests.

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well this gen is heavily catering to the fps lovers. So fps gamers will probably find this gen is the best. Racing fans will probably say the same thing. FPS has been improved greatly sincel ast gen. Wrpgs have also made a big leap. Jrpgs on the other hand are very few in number and only a select few are quality ones. So jrpg fans like myself might feel a bit disappointed.

With this example, every individual might have a different opinion due to varying gaming interests.

eklineage

Not really.

I'm a huge fan of the genre and this gen has been a bit 'eh' in the shooter department - there are many successes as there are disappointments.

If anything in many regards the genre seems to be taking steps back, rather than all the progrssion of earlier generations.

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This gen "to me" is very good. The problems are, everyone seems to want more. Quicker, better, way too often and sooner then we need it. Many people whine about this and that and dont seem to just " play the games"...they try and make more out of it then what they are. They are games and played for fun. Everyone seems to put consoles and games under a microscope these days. Instead of enjoying. WE have better graphics, better sound, great controlles, online gameplay, downloadable content..ect ect ect...What more do you people want?

The only 2 things I hate about this gen.....Games are pricier, and 360's are not reliable..Other than that, its all good.

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well this gen is heavily catering to the fps lovers. So fps gamers will probably find this gen is the best. Racing fans will probably say the same thing. FPS has been improved greatly sincel ast gen. Wrpgs have also made a big leap. Jrpgs on the other hand are very few in number and only a select few are quality ones. So jrpg fans like myself might feel a bit disappointed.

With this example, every individual might have a different opinion due to varying gaming interests.

skrat_01

Not really.

I'm a huge fan of the genre and this gen has been a bit 'eh' in the shooter department - there are many successes as there are disappointments.

If anything in many regards the genre seems to be taking steps back, rather than all the progrssion of earlier generations.

personally i think this gen is lackluster compared to the previous gen, but there are moments where it just wowed me. Now if only consoles would support mouse and keyboard.
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#57 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="eklineage"]

well this gen is heavily catering to the fps lovers. So fps gamers will probably find this gen is the best. Racing fans will probably say the same thing. FPS has been improved greatly sincel ast gen. Wrpgs have also made a big leap. Jrpgs on the other hand are very few in number and only a select few are quality ones. So jrpg fans like myself might feel a bit disappointed.

With this example, every individual might have a different opinion due to varying gaming interests.

eklineage

Not really.

I'm a huge fan of the genre and this gen has been a bit 'eh' in the shooter department - there are many successes as there are disappointments.

If anything in many regards the genre seems to be taking steps back, rather than all the progrssion of earlier generations.

personally i think this gen is lackluster compared to the previous gen, but there are moments where it just wowed me. Now if only consoles would support mouse and keyboard.

Honestly I think developers really need to start to branch out and take risks with Game Design.

After the massive hype for Bioshock with its 'risk taking game design' because it was such a highly vaunted new IP, I was shocked how recessive the game was in terms of game design.

It was like going from the Renaissance to the Stone Ages.

Sure it was a great game in its own right, and had some fantastic moments.... but it was almost a step back for the genre. Its stuff like that, that is a real kick to the gut this gen.

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It could be worst,  we can have nothing but expansion packs,  MMO's and strategy games

Aww crap I just described PC Gaming 

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Unfortunately, these games tend to have more content than console games, so...
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Sorry TC, your wrong on this one IMO. Maybe the games for those genre's haven't been as exciting for you this gen, but so far this gen has rocked hard.

Before I even get into some games that I feel prove you wrong, I want to address a key substantial difference between this gen and last gen; online play. Online communities for online games are new to this gen and it is nice to see some of our old favorite genre's come out with full online support. Our consoles now support the features which allow us to talk to each other, compare the games we play with one another, send each other messages while playing, create virtual living spaces and interact with other like minded gamers. Before that games were all mostly single player affairs. Now, things like MP and Co-op aren't only expected, they are standard and are huge negative factors if left out. These were features PC gamers were enjoying for a decade and this gen brought it to the table for our living rooms, personally I wouldn't have it any other way.

Now let's talk about some of the genre's you mentioned which are lacking, starting with fighters. Are you telling me that last gen fighters were good? What did you only play melee for 4 years? Last gen's greatest fighters were MvC2, SC2(3 was garbage),Tekken 5(4 was garbage),and street fighter 3. For some people the Guilty Gear franchise also applies so you could throw that in there too. We had some duds too, Capcom Fighting All-Stars and that terrible MS made Xbox exclusive, the one with real time bone breaking. This gen we've had VF5, SC4,Tekken 5 DR, DoA4 (if its your thing), MKvsDCU,SSF2THDR, and the biggest one probably is SF4. Make no mistake, the casuals hype around SFIV, along with amazing reviews and the praise this game is garnering in the fighting game circuit is already ensuring that this game will not only be a pheonominal success come Feb.17, but that it may save the image and reputation of the fighting game genre. No fighting game that came out last gen came close to even getting that praise, let alone living up to it.

Platformers, we definitly have had less this gen than previous ones, that is unquestionnable. However, what we have received was really different by comparison. So far we have gotten SMG, R&CF tools of destruction & quest for booty, Banjo Nuts & Bolts, Kameo,  New Super Mario Bros., Braid, LittleBigPlanet, and Mirror's Edge (which i'll also throw into action adventure). The truth is that with the exception of Banjo and Mario, all these games moved away from the collectathon stigma that ran rampant in Platformers. Last gen didn't change it from SM64, and technically the genre hasn't been as big or expansive as when that game came out.We will see platformers springing up in the future, it is a great genre. And i'm loving the fact that the industry is moving away from the old collectathon's that we used to get in our platformers. PS2 alone must've had 2 come out ever 3 months.I won't even get into how awesome LBP is, both conceptually and gameplay wise.

JRPG's.I'm not surprised by what is happening to this genre and i'm actually glad it is. It is a kick in the balls to the developers and writers out there in this field. We have been getting rehashed stuff for multiple genre's, nothing has really changed in the storytelling or combat system for this genre. It never pushed itself to the edge or changed according to what this generation's console could offer the game itself outside of a platform in which to be played on. Best JRPG so far this gen? Persona 3, and it is a PS2 game! Just goes to show ya they aren't taking advantage of any of the capabilities of this next-gen consoles. There have been some okay ones (Lost Odyssey and Valkriya Chronicles) but all the other ones just fall into the same story and character cliches this genre was built on. Spikey haired or overly emotional main character with a big sword? Awesome, throw a turn based combat system, a forced love story, and a save the world sceanario and you have yourselves a hit.

By comparison, what took the place for RPG's over J is the awesome WRPG, something that was usually only churning out overly complex PC RPG games (Baldur's Gate, NWN). We have gotten some awesome WRPG's this gen, I don't even gotta list 'em they already come to mind when the genre acronym is mentioned. These are all games that take advantage of what our new systems can do, and they also offer us awesome forms of storytelling with thought-provoking exposition.

Action/Adventure, i'll sorta give it to ya here. Although Gears, Uncharted, GTA4,Saints Row 1&2, Merc 2, Dark Sector, Dead Space, Condemned 1&2, Zack & Wiki, No More Heroes would probably disagree with both of us. There is more to it than just those titles too.

In the end, the games that represent some of our favorite genres have changed. That is an okay thing though, this is an ever-evolving entertainment form and embracing the new and celebrating the old is the only way we will ever enjoy it. My advice to you TC is this. If you honestly preferred everything that last gen offered you, than just to back to playing last gen consoles. Obviously the plethora of options some of your favorite genre's are no longer satisfying you. Trust me, your old gen consoles work just fine and i'm sure they'd love to get some play time.

 

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Haha console gaming is already heading to that direction. Nothing but WRPGs and shooters. Even strategy games have a bigger presence on consoles than platformers.

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Umm no..

AAA Fighting Game?   BRAWL 9.5

AAA Platformer? Galaxy 9.5

AAA Action Adventure? GTAIV 10, MGS4 10,   RE4 Wii, Okami 9.1, Assasins Creed 9.0, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 9.0

AAA Party Game?  Wario Ware Smooth Moves 9.1

AAA Action Game?  No More Heroes 9,  LBP 9

AAA RPG?  Oblivion 9.5, Fallot 3 9.0 

AAA FPS?  Resistance 2 9.0, Halo 3 9.5, Bioshock 9.0, Orange Box 9.5,  COD4 9.0, PDZ 9.0

AAA Sports?  NHL 09 9.0

AAA Strategy?  Sid Meirs Civilization Revolution 9.0

AAA Racing? Burnout Paradise 9.0, Forza 2 9.0, 

AAA Rythm/Music?  Rock Band 9.0

AAA Tactical Shooter?  Rainbow Six Vegas 9.0, GRAW 9.2

AAA 3rd Person Shooter?  GeoW 9.5, GeoW 9.0

AAA Survival Horror?  Dead Space 9.0

 

Plenty of variety on consoles 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Uh..... plenty of those titles ARE on pc... :?

 

PC Only covered 5 genres on that list (AAA Only,  inferior non AAA games don't count)

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I actually find this generation to be better than last gen in my opinion. There seem to be more games that I thorougly enjoyed more than last gen, or maybe it is just me. The only thing this generation have yet to recieve is God of War and Final Fantasy that I enjoyed last generation but that will changed when they both get release somewhere in the near future.
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Sorry TC, your wrong on this one IMO. Maybe the games for those genre's haven't been as exciting for you this gen, but so far this gen has rocked hard.

Before I even get into some games that I feel prove you wrong, I want to address a key substantial difference between this gen and last gen; online play. Online communities for online games are new to this gen and it is nice to see some of our old favorite genre's come out with full online support. Our consoles now support the features which allow us to talk to each other, compare the games we play with one another, send each other messages while playing, create virtual living spaces and interact with other like minded gamers. Before that games were all mostly single player affairs. Now, things like MP and Co-op aren't only expected, they are standard and are huge negative factors if left out. These were features PC gamers were enjoying for a decade and this gen brought it to the table for our living rooms, personally I wouldn't have it any other way.Shensolidus

Yeah, that's good. I like online. But now they are focusing only on online. Call of Duty 4 and 5 were great, but the SP lasted only like 6 hours (even on veteran). It's like they can just release a game for $60 and justify it with multiplayer. No, they can't and shouldn't.

Now let's talk about some of the genre's you mentioned which are lacking, starting with fighters. Are you telling me that last gen fighters were good? What did you only play melee for 4 years? Last gen's greatest fighters were MvC2, SC2(3 was garbage),Tekken 5(4 was garbage),and street fighter 3. For some people the Guilty Gear franchise also applies so you could throw that in there too. We had some duds too, Capcom Fighting All-Stars and that terrible MS made Xbox exclusive, the one with real time bone breaking. This gen we've had VF5, SC4,Tekken 5 DR, DoA4 (if its your thing), MKvsDCU,SSF2THDR, and the biggest one probably is SF4. Make no mistake, the casuals hype around SFIV, along with amazing reviews and the praise this game is garnering in the fighting game circuit is already ensuring that this game will not only be a pheonominal success come Feb.17, but that it may save the image and reputation of the fighting game genre. No fighting game that came out last gen came close to even getting that praise, let alone living up to it.Shensolidus

Maybe I was exaggerating on fighters, you make a good point. It's one of my favorite genres so maybe I expected too much.

Platformers, we definitly have had less this gen than previous ones, that is unquestionnable. However, what we have received was really different by comparison. So far we have gotten SMG, R&CF tools of destruction & quest for booty, Banjo Nuts & Bolts, Kameo,  New Super Mario Bros., Braid, LittleBigPlanet, and Mirror's Edge (which i'll also throw into action adventure). The truth is that with the exception of Banjo and Mario, all these games moved away from the collectathon stigma that ran rampant in Platformers. Last gen didn't change it from SM64, and technically the genre hasn't been as big or expansive as when that game came out.We will see platformers springing up in the future, it is a great genre. And i'm loving the fact that the industry is moving away from the old collectathon's that we used to get in our platformers. PS2 alone must've had 2 come out ever 3 months.I won't even get into how awesome LBP is, both conceptually and gameplay wise.Shensolidus

Collectathons were fun though. Old, yes, but fun. Some of my favorite games last gen were platformers, and this generation there's only a couple. Third parties haven't even bothered with them, it's not like they don't sale. They don't need to release 6 every year like they did last gen, but a couple each year would rule.

JRPG's.I'm not surprised by what is happening to this genre and i'm actually glad it is. It is a kick in the balls to the developers and writers out there in this field. We have been getting rehashed stuff for multiple genre's, nothing has really changed in the storytelling or combat system for this genre. It never pushed itself to the edge or changed according to what this generation's console could offer the game itself outside of a platform in which to be played on. Best JRPG so far this gen? Persona 3, and it is a PS2 game! Just goes to show ya they aren't taking advantage of any of the capabilities of this next-gen consoles. There have been some okay ones (Lost Odyssey and Valkriya Chronicles) but all the other ones just fall into the same story and character cliches this genre was built on. Spikey haired or overly emotional main character with a big sword? Awesome, throw a turn based combat system, a forced love story, and a save the world sceanario and you have yourselves a hit.Shensolidus

You can say that about any genre though. Heck Gears is an exact clone of Halo story wise. Another military shooter? Wow. JRPGs are just fun and they HAVE changed  the combat system from last gen, which was mostly turn based but now it is different. It was evolving. Far more than shooters at least.

By comparison, what took the place for RPG's over J is the awesome WRPG, something that was usually only churning out overly complex PC RPG games (Baldur's Gate, NWN). We have gotten some awesome WRPG's this gen, I don't even gotta list 'em they already come to mind when the genre acronym is mentioned. These are all games that take advantage of what our new systems can do, and they also offer us awesome forms of storytelling with thought-provoking exposition.Shensolidus

I agree. I love WRPGs (Mass Effect owns), but JRPGs are also great. We should have a balance. JRPGs are the reason PlayStation is still around (FFVII).

Action/Adventure, i'll sorta give it to ya here. Although Gears, Uncharted, GTA4,Saints Row 1&2, Merc 2, Dark Sector, Dead Space, Condemned 1&2, Zack & Wiki, No More Heroes would probably disagree with both of us. There is more to it than just those titles too.Shensolidus

In a couple years that will get better (ICO 3, God of War, Madworld, Resident Evil 5 etc. etc.) but it's taking way too long, and it's not like last gen.

In the end, the games that represent some of our favorite genres have changed. That is an okay thing though, this is an ever-evolving entertainment form and embracing the new and celebrating the old is the only way we will ever enjoy it. My advice to you TC is this. If you honestly preferred everything that last gen offered you, than just to back to playing last gen consoles. Obviously the plethora of options some of your favorite genre's are no longer satisfying you. Trust me, your old gen consoles work just fine and i'm sure they'd love to get some play time.

Shensolidus

That's Wii thinking though, just stay behind in technology. I don't want too. I'd like a few new platformers here and there (played most on the PS2 - literally, even crappy ones like Dr. Muto and Vexx), and action adventure. These genres are what separate consoles from PCs.

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inferior non AAA games don't count) GioVela2010
If you had credibility to lose, you would have lost it with that.
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PC Only covered 5 genres on that list (AAA Only,  inferior non AAA games don't count)

GioVela2010

Nice attempt at spinning it but you try too hard. He's right, more than 10 of those ''AAA tiles'' are on PC as well many of which I've played on it.

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I love shooters so for me this gen is great :P

Though Motersotrm and LBP have been fun.

The reason this gen has gone in this way though is due to consoles having more online content. People want to play online more andd the best, most competitive games that work on consoles are shooters.

And they are so popular that devs want to make them. Get used to it shooters are going to be the main genre for a long time :)

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Actually, it's one of the best gens period :D TC, if you hate this gen that much, go back to last gen. what's stopping you?
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

PC Only covered 5 genres on that list (AAA Only,  inferior non AAA games don't count)

Dystopian-X

Nice attempt at spinning it but you try too hard. He's right, more than 10 of those ''AAA tiles'' are on PC as well many of which I've played on it.

 

inferior non AAA versions  (5 genres)

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This gen caters to a certain genre of gaming more than others. It isn't surprising that others will not agree with u TC. I agree becuz im a jrpg fan. But i wouldn't expect others to feel the same way.
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]inferior non AAA games don't count) agentfred
If you had credibility to lose, you would have lost it with that.

 

because you say so?  Face it PC has yet to have a AAA Action-Adventure this gen

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AAA Action Game?  No More Heroes 9,  LBP 9

GioVela2010

What? Little big planet? An action game?

 


 

 

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I don't think it's fair to judge two/three years of gaming compared to something like 8 or 9 from last gen. Regardless, I'm enjoying it more this gen.
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[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]inferior non AAA games don't count) GioVela2010

If you had credibility to lose, you would have lost it with that.

 

because you say so?  Face it PC has yet to have a AAA Action-Adventure this gen

Call us when consoles can do MMOs, kk?
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[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]inferior non AAA games don't count) GioVela2010

If you had credibility to lose, you would have lost it with that.

 

because you say so?  Face it PC has yet to have a AAA Action-Adventure this gen

You labeled AAA as inferior, and said that they "don't count". This, is of course, preposterous. Thus, I will promptly ignore anything you derive from this reasoning.
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#74 GioVela2010
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AAA Action Game?  No More Heroes 9,  LBP 9

bladeeagle

What? Little big planet? An action game?

 


 

 

 

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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

[QUOTE="agentfred"] If you had credibility to lose, you would have lost it with that.princeofshapeir

 

because you say so?  Face it PC has yet to have a AAA Action-Adventure this gen

Call us when consoles can do MMOs, kk?

 

text me when i care  :lol:

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[QUOTE="bladeeagle"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

AAA Action Game?  No More Heroes 9,  LBP 9

GioVela2010

What? Little big planet? An action game?

 


 

 

 

Anyone who has played the game knows it's not an action game. It's labeled as such by Failspot, but it's a platforming level creator at heart.
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#77 agentfred
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text me when i care :lol:GioVela2010

Uhh..

Can't he just say the same thing about Action-Adventures? That doesn't seem like a powerful argument.

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#78 blingchu55
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I agree. Any generation in which gears of war 2 and cod 5 are considered big deals is a bad generation
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#79 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

 

 

because you say so?  Face it PC has yet to have a AAA Action-Adventure this gen

GioVela2010

Call us when consoles can do MMOs, kk?

 

text me when i care  :lol:

Okay, consoles can keep their action-adventures and PCs will keep MMOs. Despite the fact that the PC has done action-adventures, and there hasn't been a single console MMO ever. And you should care considering that MMOs are the most popular online genre of gaming on the market.

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#80 princeofshapeir
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I agree. Any generation in which gears of war 2 and cod 5 are considered big deals is a bad generationblingchu55
Eight point eight. *snicker*
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#81 agentfred
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Despite the fact that the PC has done action-adventures, and there hasn't been a single console MMO ever.princeofshapeir
There have been, just not good ones. FFXI springs to mind.
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#82 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

[QUOTE="agentfred"] If you had credibility to lose, you would have lost it with that.agentfred

 

because you say so?  Face it PC has yet to have a AAA Action-Adventure this gen

You labeled AAA as inferior, and said that they "don't count". This, is of course, preposterous. Thus, I will promptly ignore anything you derive from this reasoning.

 

Uhh no i labled RE4 PC and others as inferior

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#83 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="blingchu55"]I agree. Any generation in which gears of war 2 and cod 5 are considered big deals is a bad generationprinceofshapeir
Eight point eight. *snicker*

Gears 2 and COD5 are great games, but entirely forgettable. Just more shooters.

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#84 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="blingchu55"]I agree. Any generation in which gears of war 2 and cod 5 are considered big deals is a bad generationprinceofshapeir
Eight point eight. *snicker*

Gears 2 and COD5 are great games, but entirely forgettable. Just more shooters.

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#85 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

 

 

because you say so?  Face it PC has yet to have a AAA Action-Adventure this gen

GioVela2010

You labeled AAA as inferior, and said that they "don't count". This, is of course, preposterous. Thus, I will promptly ignore anything you derive from this reasoning.

 

Uhh no i labled RE4 PC and others as inferior

What do you define action-adventure as? Any FPS game can be an action-adventure, as well as an RPG.

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#86 agentfred
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Uhh no i labled RE4 PC and others as inferior

 

GioVela2010
Alright, I guess that makes more sense. Still, it was an ambiguous sentence, and easily misunderstood.
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#87 blingchu55
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RE4 PC?

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#88 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Call us when consoles can do MMOs, kk?princeofshapeir

 

 

text me when i care  :lol:

Okay, consoles can keep their action-adventures and PCs will keep MMOs. Despite the fact that the PC has done action-adventures, and there hasn't been a single console MMO ever. And you should care considering that MMOs are the most popular online genre of gaming on the market.

 

oh but i dont care at all

 

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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="agentfred"] You labeled AAA as inferior, and said that they "don't count". This, is of course, preposterous. Thus, I will promptly ignore anything you derive from this reasoning.princeofshapeir

 

 

Uhh no i labled RE4 PC and others as inferior

What do you define action-adventure as? Any FPS game can be an action-adventure, as well as an RPG.

i dont define.  Gamespot does

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#90 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]Uhh no i labled RE4 PC and others as inferior

 

agentfred

Alright, I guess that makes more sense. Still, it was an ambiguous sentence, and easily misunderstood.

 

im sorry.  please forgive me

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

 

 

text me when i care  :lol:

GioVela2010

Okay, consoles can keep their action-adventures and PCs will keep MMOs. Despite the fact that the PC has done action-adventures, and there hasn't been a single console MMO ever. And you should care considering that MMOs are the most popular online genre of gaming on the market.

 

oh but i dont care at all

MMO players are bottom of the barrel humans in society

But you would care if MMOs were more successful on consoles than PCs.

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#92 rolo107
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I'm absolutely loving this generation. I guess you were more pleased with previous generations, and as things change, you don't really like where the industry is going, but it will always be changing. Eventually we will probably see an influx of new platformers due to some innovation made by a developer. That's all we are seeing now. I loved last gen too, but this generation has offered me everything I wanted also.
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#93 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

 

 

text me when i care  :lol:

GioVela2010

Okay, consoles can keep their action-adventures and PCs will keep MMOs. Despite the fact that the PC has done action-adventures, and there hasn't been a single console MMO ever. And you should care considering that MMOs are the most popular online genre of gaming on the market.

 

oh but i dont care at all

MMO players are bottom of the barrel humans in society

:lol: You seem to be able to stereotype quite effectively, just like all of the other consolites that are jealous of the success of PC MMOs.
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#94 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

 

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Okay, consoles can keep their action-adventures and PCs will keep MMOs. Despite the fact that the PC has done action-adventures, and there hasn't been a single console MMO ever. And you should care considering that MMOs are the most popular online genre of gaming on the market.

bladeeagle

 

oh but i dont care at all

MMO players are bottom of the barrel humans in society

But you would care if MMOs were more successful on consoles than PCs.

 

No id be ashamed and embarrassed

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#95 AgentA-Mi6
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I'd say it's a great gen, thanks to Sony and Microsoft.Floppy_Jim
Indeed, however still not as good as the previous one :( And Nintendo... has fast sales....
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#96 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="bladeeagle"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

 

 

oh but i dont care at all

MMO players are bottom of the barrel humans in society

GioVela2010

But you would care if MMOs were more successful on consoles than PCs.

 

No id be ashamed and embarrassed

Why? What's so bad about MMOs? Is massive online interaction a bad thing?

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#97 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="bladeeagle"]

 

But you would care if MMOs were more successful on consoles than PCs.

princeofshapeir

 

No id be ashamed and embarrassed

Why? What's so bad about MMOs? Is massive online interaction a bad thing?

 

I just googled "MMO player' this is the first image that comes up

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I kinda agree with you. I have yet to play a game this generation that is as great as Metroid Prime, Shadow of the Colossus, or Okami. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it's just seems like games this generation lack something. Maybe it's the fact that there aren't that many epic single player games because developers think every game needs to be chocked full of multiplayer.

And I'm sick of shooters. All developers think about is how can they make money, and the best way to do it is to make a shooter. Their thought process probably goes something like this.

Donkey Honkey: What game genre and concept will make us money??
Joe Blow: Oh I have an idea on a game!!!
Donkey Honkey: What's that?
Joe Blow: How about we make a SciFi shooter, or just a shooter in general.
Donkey Honkey: That's a great idea!!! Nobody has done that one before.

Hopefully after this generation people will get tired of shooters, or we just see less of them, but I have a hunch that won't happen. With my luck, there will probably be even more shooters and multiplayer games then there were this generation.

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#99 Dahaka-UK
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

It could be worst,  we can have nothing but expansion packs,  MMO's and strategy games

Aww crap I just described PC Gaming 

GioVela2010

Haha console gaming is already heading to that direction. Nothing but WRPGs and shooters. Even strategy games have a bigger presence on consoles than platformers.

Umm no..

AAA Fighting Game?   BRAWL 9.5

AAA Platformer? Galaxy 9.5

AAA Action Adventure? GTAIV 10, MGS4 10,   RE4 Wii, Okami 9.1, Assasins Creed 9.0, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 9.0

AAA Party Game?  Wario Ware Smooth Moves 9.1

AAA Action Game?  No More Heroes 9,  LBP 9

AAA RPG?  Oblivion 9.5, Fallot 3 9.0 

AAA FPS?  Resistance 2 9.0, Halo 3 9.5, Bioshock 9.0, Orange Box 9.5,  COD4 9.0, PDZ 9.0

AAA Sports?  NHL 09 9.0

AAA Strategy?  Sid Meirs Civilization Revolution 9.0

AAA Racing? Burnout Paradise 9.0, Forza 2 9.0, 

AAA Rythm/Music?  Rock Band 9.0

AAA Tactical Shooter?  Rainbow Six Vegas 9.0, GRAW 9.2

AAA 3rd Person Shooter?  GeoW 9.5, GeoW 9.0

AAA Survival Horror?  Dead Space 9.0

 

Plenty of variety on consoles 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Listing 1 to a couple of games for each genre isnt exactly what you'd call variety. You've basically just proved that there isnt any variety at all this generation. Seriously for every 1 game from any genre theres about 20 shooters that follow. Generic ones. You can't honestly say that platformers fans are happy playing 1 platformer this entire gen along with a vehicle sandbox game that pretends to be a platformer. No. Give me 30 quality platformer games, each of the same quality. Not a thousand shooters and 1 of each genre. Way to screw over gamers devs.
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#100 Nerkcon
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I been saying this forever, but my thread never got this many replies... what the hell? Does everyone hate me? :( Maybe I should get an avatar... it seems to make a difference with how much people notice you.