This is the GPU that powers the $300-$350 Wii U........

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#51 dobzilian
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] Sure as hell didnt buy it for games :(StrongDeadlift

I did ;) and am having a blast

If you dont mind me asking, would you mind telling me what Wii U titles you've been playing on your Wii U? :)

MH TRI U.
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#52 nameless12345
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I thought the MCM (i.e. CPU + GPU on same substrate) costed Nintendo only 40$ to make.

The expensive thing on the U is the controller which cost more than some low-end tablets to make.

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#53 YoshiYogurt
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I have a 560 and a wiiU. Enjoy both.
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#54 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] Sure as hell didnt buy it for games :(StrongDeadlift

I did ;) and am having a blast

If you dont mind me asking, would you mind telling me what Wii U titles you've been playing on your Wii U? :)

MH Tri Ultimate NintendoLand ZombiU Scribblenauts Sonic All-Stars Racing COD Black Ops 2 Lego City: Undercover NSMBU Need for Speed Amazing Spiderman: Ultimate Edition And I am missing some retail and digital games ;)
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#55 g0ddyX
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Doesnt matter how people get around the Wii:U specs and what they do to compensate for the Wii:U's flaws and weaknesses..

Its really underpowered and barely capable of outperforming 360/PS3 which are 6 year old machines.

The competition or Next Gen has not even arrived and by that time, there would be no reason to own a Wii:U besides a few regular Nintendo Games.

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#56 StrongDeadlift
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I thought the MCM (i.e. CPU + GPU on same substrate) costed Nintendo only 40$ to make.

The expensive thing on the U is the controller which cost more than some low-end tablets to make.

nameless12345

Nothing supurising about that.  

The 4650 was priced at $69 dollars (for the general public) when it launched in 2008.  

Consola manufacturers pay significantly less than that. That GPU alone in the Wii U's MCM prolly costs them $16.  The rest of the cost is likely manufacturing.  

Sony, for instance, payed $128 dollars per PS3 for the RSX at launch, while the PC equivalent card retailed for $600 for the general public.

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#57 LastRambo341
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Doesnt matter how people get around the Wii:U specs and what they do to compensate for the Wii:U's flaws and weaknesses..

Its really underpowered and barely capable of outperforming 360/PS3 which are 6 year old machines.

The competition or Next Gen has not even arrived and by that time, there would be no reason to own a Wii:U besides a few regular Nintendo Games.

g0ddyX
How can you judge it when we haven't seen what is fully capable of ? Ps3 and 360 are 7-8 year old machines that are fully optimized
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#58 freedomfreak
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I came so close to buying a WiiU when I picked up Judgment. Then I was like, nah.
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#59 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

I thought the MCM (i.e. CPU + GPU on same substrate) costed Nintendo only 40$ to make.

The expensive thing on the U is the controller which cost more than some low-end tablets to make.

StrongDeadlift

Nothing supurising about that.  

The 4650 was priced at $69 dollars (for the general public) when it launched in 2008.  

Consola manufacturers pay significantly less than that. That GPU alone in the Wii U's MCM prolly costs them $16.  The rest of the cost is likely manufacturing.  

Sony, for instance, payed $128 dollars per PS3 for the RSX at launch, while the PC equivalent card retailed for $600 for the general public.

 

Well, RSX was also downgraded in some ways. (i.e. less ROPs, 128-bit memory bus, ect.)

But overall you're right.

Console manufactures get the components for much cheaper than the general public does. (i.e. "OEM" distibution and deals)

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#60 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] I did ;) and am having a blastLastRambo341

If you dont mind me asking, would you mind telling me what Wii U titles you've been playing on your Wii U? :)

MH Tri Ultimate NintendoLand ZombiU Scribblenauts Sonic All-Stars Racing COD Black Ops 2 Lego City: Undercover NSMBU Need for Speed Amazing Spiderman: Ultimate Edition And I am missing some retail and digital games ;)

But the Wii U doesn't have games. :roll:

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#61 faizan_faizan
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The expensive thing on the U is the controller which cost more than some low-end tablets to make.nameless12345
That was some asinine decision.
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#62 MstaPrimeMnista
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interesting thread
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#63 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] I did ;) and am having a blastLastRambo341

If you dont mind me asking, would you mind telling me what Wii U titles you've been playing on your Wii U? :)

MH Tri Ultimate 

NintendoLand 

ZombiU

Scribblenauts 

Sonic All-Stars Racing

COD Black Ops 2

Lego City: Undercover

NSMBU Need for Speed

Amazing Spiderman: Ultimate Edition

And I am missing some retail and digital games ;)

So in other words, you bought your Wii U to play:

-NintendoLand

-A port of a 3DS game

-360 multiplats (All of which excluding NFS are the worst versions of those multiplats)

-and Lego City Undercover

 

Congratulations :)

However, I do get a kick out of the Wii U being so pressed for games, that sheep have to cling to games like Lego City Undercover, knowing damn well you wouldnt give a chit about that on PS3 ;)

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#64 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

If you dont mind me asking, would you mind telling me what Wii U titles you've been playing on your Wii U? :)

StrongDeadlift

MH Tri Ultimate 

NintendoLand 

ZombiU

Scribblenauts 

Sonic All-Stars Racing

COD Black Ops 2

Lego City: Undercover

NSMBU Need for Speed

Amazing Spiderman: Ultimate Edition

And I am missing some retail and digital games ;)

So in other words, you bought your Wii U to play:

-NintendoLand

-A port of a 3DS game

-360 multiplats (All of which excluding NFS are the worst versions of those multiplats)

-and Lego City Undercover

 

Congratulations :)

However, I do get a kick out of the Wii U being so pressed for games, that sheep have to cling to games like Lego City Undercover, knowing damn well you wouldnt give a chit about that on PS3 ;)

3DS port? Are you dismissing the game just because of that? I'm having a blast playing online with my friends Multiplats: Everyone complains that Nintendo needs to have 3rd party support , and there ya go (btw, Sonic All-Stars is also better on WiiU according to Digital Foundry as well as Amazing Spiderman with all of the content) You missed ZombiU and Scribblenauts Again, I have missing games :P I buy games because they are good and have effort put in them, no matter what system
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#65 StrongDeadlift
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there would be no reason to own a Wii:U besides a few regular Nintendo Games.

g0ddyX

None of which are anywhere to be found, nor will they be anytime soon.  Myamoto's game is confirmed to not be @ E3, etc.  

And when the next Zelda, Mario show up, its not like they're gonna come out in 2 months.  They likely wont be out this year.  

At least Killzone: Shadow Fall, and Infamous: Second Son (which are both now launch titles) are actual tangible products that exist. And Sony showed them on the first day of the PS4's public existance.  

The last SMG2 came out in 2010, Skyward Sword in 2011.  Xenoblade in 2010 (and were just now hearing about Xenoblade 2)  

What the hell have these guys been doing for 3 years that they have not even a trailer and barely an acknowlegement of their existance for their new console that will have been in the public eye for 2 years by the time their projects come out? :?

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#66 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

there would be no reason to own a Wii:U besides a few regular Nintendo Games.

StrongDeadlift

None of which are anywhere to be found, nor will they be anytime soon.  Myamoto's game is confirmed to not be @ E3, etc.  

And when the next Zelda, Mario show up, its not like they're gonna come out in 2 months.  They likely wont be out this year.  

At least Killzone: Shadow Fall, and Infamous: Second Son (which are both now launch titles) are actual tangible products that exist. And Sony showed them on the first day of the PS4's public existance.  

The last SMG2 came out in 2010, Skyward Sword in 2011.  Xenoblade in 2010 (and were just now hearing about Xenoblade 2)  

What the hell have these guys been doing for 3 years that they have not even a trailer and barely an acknowlegement of their existance for their new console that will have been in the public eye for 2 years by the time their projects come out? :?

so basically you know ps3 stomped 360 and now you are trying to bash the wii. Oh well, i guess you need to at least have a chance in an argument.

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#67 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

there would be no reason to own a Wii:U besides a few regular Nintendo Games.

Krelian-co

None of which are anywhere to be found, nor will they be anytime soon.  Myamoto's game is confirmed to not be @ E3, etc.  

And when the next Zelda, Mario show up, its not like they're gonna come out in 2 months.  They likely wont be out this year.  

At least Killzone: Shadow Fall, and Infamous: Second Son (which are both now launch titles) are actual tangible products that exist. And Sony showed them on the first day of the PS4's public existance.  

The last SMG2 came out in 2010, Skyward Sword in 2011.  Xenoblade in 2010 (and were just now hearing about Xenoblade 2)  

What the hell have these guys been doing for 3 years that they have not even a trailer and barely an acknowlegement of their existance for their new console that will have been in the public eye for 2 years by the time their projects come out? :?

so basically you know ps3 stomped 360 and now you are trying to bash the wii. Oh well, i guess you need to at least have a chance in an argument.

ok.
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#68 Tessellation
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lol strongdeadlift thread.MstaPrimeMnista
lol at getting banned for racist and butthurt
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#69 MstaPrimeMnista
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[QUOTE="MstaPrimeMnista"]lol strongdeadlift thread.Tessellation
lol at getting banned for racist and butthurt

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#70 JohnF111
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Just another lem creating another bashing thread. What's new....
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#71 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="MstaPrimeMnista"]lol strongdeadlift thread.MstaPrimeMnista
lol at getting banned for racist and butthurt

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still butthurt at the fact you got banned for racist PinnacleGamingP? :cool:
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#72 catasaurus
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]I wonder why Nintendo repeated the same mistake. They COULD have released a more powerful console.Optical_Order

The killer was the controller. Costs a lot for them to make, so they sacrificed the hardware.

Nintendo just isn't interested in trying to go toe to toe with Sony and Microsoft. Clearly they are focused on innovating first and foremost.

they don't need to. they have more than enough money to build a competent gaming machine. seems like they were betting on the casuals and failed misreably. i brought a deluxe day one... but it only gets used for netflix. yup, have mario brothers to.

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#73 HalcyonScarlet
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When the Quad launches at 400 bucks, Sheep will have to concede that the Wii U was a rip off. Just like the 3DS.

Obviously_Right

omg is it being nicknamed the "Quad" now? :lol:

Playstation nicknames are funny, I remember when they called the PS3 the "Trey". :P

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#74 painguy1
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thats not even close to what the GPU is.
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#75 6_Shooter_25
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Dumb thread. Wii U's price is due to the tablet and all internal components combined, in conjunction with Nintendo's desire not to lose much money on each unit.

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#76 super600
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The GPU is heavily modified. some gafers were talking about how it could potentially be a different GPU.

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#77 FashionFreak
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lol strongdeadlift thread.MstaPrimeMnista

 

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[QUOTE="MstaPrimeMnista"]lol strongdeadlift thread.FashionFreak

 

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#79 StrongBlackVine
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As if I even care about what card is in the Wii U. Its graphics are good enough for me and if I want to play graphic stunners I have my PC and 570GTX for that. I bought the Wii U to play games, not watch games. So enjoy your fail troll thread, I know living in Republic of Butthurtia isn't fun with your sucky PS4. 

Kjranu

Wii U is already trash compared to the PS4. Trying to play the hermit card doesn't make your worthless purchase look any better.

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#80 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] I did ;) and am having a blastLastRambo341

If you dont mind me asking, would you mind telling me what Wii U titles you've been playing on your Wii U? :)

MH Tri Ultimate NintendoLand ZombiU Scribblenauts Sonic All-Stars Racing COD Black Ops 2 Lego City: Undercover NSMBU Need for Speed Amazing Spiderman: Ultimate Edition And I am missing some retail and digital games ;)

That is a sad sack list of games....

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#82 Bazooka_4ME
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desperate lemmings are desperate...

they actually think they're arms and arms with hermits now

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#83 elchiquilin
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I think we already know that in terms of graphic cards, most consoles will go outdated in months, if not by launch, however, I love the games Nintendo puts out, so this gen Im going WII U, PS4 and for the first time getting a gaming PC , instead of an xbox
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#84 mastershake575
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The only shocking think here is the $125 4650 adamosmaki
Yeah thats weird. The at 6570/nvidia GT 620 are both low profile, faster than the 4650, and about $50 (The 4650 should be much cheaper than listed). I'm guessing it was an error

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#85 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="Kjranu"]

As if I even care about what card is in the Wii U. Its graphics are good enough for me and if I want to play graphic stunners I have my PC and 570GTX for that. I bought the Wii U to play games, not watch games. So enjoy your fail troll thread, I know living in Republic of Butthurtia isn't fun with your sucky PS4. 

StrongBlackVine

Wii U is already trash compared to the PS4. Trying to play the hermit card doesn't make your worthless purchase look any better.

Well, the Wii U does have a whole lot of games compared to the PS4, so there is that.
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I think we already know that in terms of graphic cards, most consoles will go outdated in months, if not by launch, however, I love the games Nintendo puts out, so this gen Im going WII U, PS4 and for the first time getting a gaming PC , instead of an xboxelchiquilin
The only diference with the WiiU is that its outdated by over five years :roll:

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#87 Inconsistancy
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And it only costs $124.99 dollars

For the same price as a Wii U console, you could purchase not one, but two GTX560's, (each one about 2.5 times as powerfull (FLOPs) as the Wii U GPU), for the equivalent of 5 times the power, and twice the gaming ram of the Wii U.  The CPU in everyone reading this thread's PC right now is also better than the Expresso that is in the Wii U (providing you arent posting from a potato).   

You're welcome.  

StrongDeadlift

Why are you comparing an NV gpu to AMD in terms of GFLOPS? They perform ~the same, as equivalent models, but the gflops AMD tends be 1.5x-2x higher.

To be more accurate, that 4650 is ~5.5x less, in terms of GFLOPS, as the AMD 6950 (~=560ti).

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#88 Heil68
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Cool, what about the cost of everything else in the system?

Chutebox
That is a valid question.
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#89 Teuf_
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Huh, weird, I don't remember my WiiU being 2.4 inches high, it's almost like it doesn't use hardware that you can pick up on the shelf.bobbetybob


What are you talking about? Everyone knows that they make a console by picking out parts from newegg and slapping them in a box.

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#90 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

You need a psu/cpu/ram also

StrongDeadlift

Providing you arent posting from a potato or a smart device, your PC right now even if its off the shelf already has all of those, and likely a more powerful CPU/more ram than the Wii U.  

I dunno man. My potato is pretty powerful...
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#91 lamprey263
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how does the size compare though, I imagine that might play a part in the price consideration
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#92 dobzilian
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where is the useful information? I'm off back on MH Tri while deadlift creates topics about games i'll go and play some...
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#93 the_bi99man
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If the Wii U's GPU is actually comparable to that... damn.

The GPU in my 2009 laptop is better than that (from the same line actually, the 4670).

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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

If you dont mind me asking, would you mind telling me what Wii U titles you've been playing on your Wii U? :)

StrongBlackVine

MH Tri Ultimate NintendoLand ZombiU Scribblenauts Sonic All-Stars Racing COD Black Ops 2 Lego City: Undercover NSMBU Need for Speed Amazing Spiderman: Ultimate Edition And I am missing some retail and digital games ;)

That is a sad sack list of games....

WiiU is better than Ps4 ;) Sad sack games list? :lol: you fanboys are funny "WiiU has no games" *shows games* "Those suck" :lol: Get over it, kiddies
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#95 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="elchiquilin"]I think we already know that in terms of graphic cards, most consoles will go outdated in months, if not by launch, however, I love the games Nintendo puts out, so this gen Im going WII U, PS4 and for the first time getting a gaming PC , instead of an xboxsilversix_

The only diference with the WiiU is that its outdated by over five years :roll:

Ya because people who buy the WiiU care about that :lol: If you want super hardware, then get a PC :roll: you will never get a day where all systems are in the same power range
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#96 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

And it only costs $124.99 dollars

For the same price as a Wii U console, you could purchase not one, but two GTX560's, (each one about 2.5 times as powerfull (FLOPs) as the Wii U GPU), for the equivalent of 5 times the power, and twice the gaming ram of the Wii U.  The CPU in everyone reading this thread's PC right now is also better than the Expresso that is in the Wii U (providing you arent posting from a potato).   

You're welcome.  

Inconsistancy

Why are you comparing an NV gpu to AMD in terms of GFLOPS? They perform ~the same, as equivalent models, but the gflops AMD tends be 1.5x-2x higher.

To be more accurate, that 4650 is ~5.5x less, in terms of GFLOPS, as the AMD 6950 (~=560ti).

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#98 Shewgenja
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]I wonder why Nintendo repeated the same mistake. They COULD have released a more powerful console.Optical_Order

The killer was the controller. Costs a lot for them to make, so they sacrificed the hardware. 

Nintendo just isn't interested in trying to go toe to toe with Sony and Microsoft. Clearly they are focused on innovating first and foremost.

 

Teh innovationz

herp

zomg!

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#99 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]I wonder why Nintendo repeated the same mistake. They COULD have released a more powerful console.Shewgenja

The killer was the controller. Costs a lot for them to make, so they sacrificed the hardware. 

Nintendo just isn't interested in trying to go toe to toe with Sony and Microsoft. Clearly they are focused on innovating first and foremost.

 

Teh innovationz

zomg!

Dont u get it brah?  

You can watch netflix in standard definition on tablet screen that must be tethered within 25 feet of your console :P

Teh innovationz

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And it only costs $124.99 dollars

For the same price as a Wii U console, you could purchase not one, but two GTX560's, (each one about 2.5 times as powerfull (FLOPs) as the Wii U GPU), for the equivalent of 5 times the power, and twice the gaming ram of the Wii U.  The CPU in everyone reading this thread's PC right now is also better than the Expresso that is in the Wii U (providing you arent posting from a potato).   

You're welcome.  

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When you buy two of those does it give access to Nintnedo games?