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#1 mjarantilla
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And this is why the Wii and DS will win. Thoughts? I've graduated from college, gotten a career (in the gaming industry, as a matter of fact), and I live on my own, and I couldn't agree more.
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#2 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Settlers of Catan looks  great.
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I'm much like you and can relate very much to that article.
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#4 bloodyclot
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Settlers of Catan looks great.Jandurin

 

the live version isn't too bad as well.  

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#5 LINKloco
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Rings true to me. I like games to be in the 10-20 hour range nowadays. 30+ I begin to lose interest. No matter the game, but there are the few exceptions.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Settlers of Catan looks great.bloodyclot

the live version isn't too bad as well.  

Thus far, the live version is the only one I've played.  ;).

Oh, and for a serious bit on the article, I've found that (obviously) now that I work full time and don't have school (which I would OFTEN blow off anyhow), my game time has become much more limited.

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#7 toxicmog
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wow, an artical that is right ot the point ;)

But with every new generation comes a new set of gamers.  You just have to wonder, will the new gamers like the old series. Or it will have to be re-invented. 

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That article is SO on the money, I am having a hard time believing I actually read it.
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I dont live in Japan or ride 45 mins to work each way. Give me a 50" hdtv.
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I think the writer of the article's situation rides more on the culture he lives in than "growing older". I bet if I moved to Japan then I'd be engulfed in their culture as well, become an otaku, and watch anime all day and play my Wii. I live in America though, and I enjoy big HDTVs, pretty graphics, and spending tons of money on engrossing experiences. Thats just me.
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#11 Vyse_The_Daring
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I think a new generation of gamers will soon be buying the "epic blockbusters" that the aging generation made famous.

It sounds to me like this person is still playing games quite a bit. He plays on the train for roughly 45 minutes to and from work, yet he beat FFIII's 35 hour story in the first week he got it. 

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And this is why the Wii and DS will win. Thoughts? I've graduated from college, gotten a career (in the gaming industry, as a matter of fact), and I live on my own, and I couldn't agree more.mjarantilla

i disagree.. i grew up with gaming and now the games i play have to be epic or give me a greater challenge or else i won't touch them. i avoid playing outside because when i'm outside i do stuff outside the house i wouldn't normaly do not go out to play games. whats the point of going out in the first place?

any free minute i get i don't use it to play games, i use it to think and plan out.. when i'm at home i can play all day without worry. 

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#13 mjarantilla
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I think the writer of the article's situation rides more on the culture he lives in than "growing older". I bet if I moved to Japan then I'd be engulfed in their culture as well, become an otaku, and watch anime all day and play my Wii. I live in America though, and I enjoy big HDTVs, pretty graphics, and spending tons of money on engrossing experiences. Thats just me.Vandalvideo
That's a HUGE stereotype to paste onto the Japanese, considering that America has its share of obsessions. The writer himself said that he's liked RPGs since he was a kid. It's not the CONTENT that pushes him away from the stock-standard "epic" games; it's the PRIORITIES he now has, many of which are the same as grown-up US professionals.
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#14 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I think the writer of the article's situation rides more on the culture he lives in than "growing older". I bet if I moved to Japan then I'd be engulfed in their culture as well, become an otaku, and watch anime all day and play my Wii. I live in America though, and I enjoy big HDTVs, pretty graphics, and spending tons of money on engrossing experiences. Thats just me.mjarantilla
That's a HUGE stereotype to paste onto the Japanese.

I placed and equally as big stereotype on Americans too. So its all good.
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And this is why the Wii and DS will win. Thoughts? I've graduated from college, gotten a career (in the gaming industry, as a matter of fact), and I live on my own, and I couldn't agree more.mjarantilla

whats it like in the gaming industry, im gonna be doing computing at college but im worried its gonna be dam boring (code sounds horrible).by the way if u dont work in the computer side then what do you?

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What about now that the orginial gamers have gotten older, they want systems like the PS3 because of its multimedia features and its appeal to mature audience?
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#17 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I think the writer of the article's situation rides more on the culture he lives in than "growing older". I bet if I moved to Japan then I'd be engulfed in their culture as well, become an otaku, and watch anime all day and play my Wii. I live in America though, and I enjoy big HDTVs, pretty graphics, and spending tons of money on engrossing experiences. Thats just me.Vandalvideo
That's a HUGE stereotype to paste onto the Japanese.

I placed and equally as big stereotype on Americans too. So its all good.

Well, read my edit.
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i avoid playing outside because when i'm outside i do stuff outside the house i wouldn't normaly do not go out to play games. whats the point of going out in the first place?beldugo
What?
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What about now that the orginial gamers have gotten older, they want systems like the PS3 because of its multimedia features and its appeal to mature audience?SergeantSnitch
I think the article I posted shows evidence that as people grow up, their priorities change away from social classifications. The article's writer IS an original gamer.
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#20 Ontain
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I totally agree. i just have so little time now a days. but i don't regret it. Real life is more important and rewarding.
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]What about now that the orginial gamers have gotten older, they want systems like the PS3 because of its multimedia features and its appeal to mature audience?mjarantilla
I think the article I posted shows evidence that as people grow up, their priorities change away from social classifications. The article's writer IS an original gamer.



The bulk of Nintendo DS owners are younger kids.  That's why games like POKEMON, Mario, and Nintendogs sell so well.  I agree with some of the points the author says, but most people beyond college don't play handhelds dude.
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most people beyond college don't play handhelds dude.SergeantSnitch
That's funny.  I'm out of college and just bought my second handheld ever.  First was a GBC.  6 people I know the same age as me have a DS or PSP, and 5 of them never owned a handheld before.
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]And this is why the Wii and DS will win. Thoughts? I've graduated from college, gotten a career (in the gaming industry, as a matter of fact), and I live on my own, and I couldn't agree more.beldugo

i disagree.. i grew up with gaming and now the games i play have to be epic or give me a greater challenge or else i won't touch them. i avoid playing outside because when i'm outside i do stuff outside the house i wouldn't normaly do not go out to play games. whats the point of going out in the first place?

any free minute i get i don't use it to play games, i use it to think and plan out.. when i'm at home i can play all day without worry.

i used to be like that straight out of college. but after a while and when you really get involved with someone seriously you have much less time. I canceled my game rental account because i had too many pc games that i bought but still didn't play through because it's hard to find many contiguous hours.

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]What about now that the orginial gamers have gotten older, they want systems like the PS3 because of its multimedia features and its appeal to mature audience?SergeantSnitch
I think the article I posted shows evidence that as people grow up, their priorities change away from social classifications. The article's writer IS an original gamer.



The bulk of Nintendo DS owners are younger kids. That's why games like POKEMON, Mario, and Nintendogs sell so well. I agree with some of the points the author says, but most people beyond college don't play handhelds dude.

Well, there's really no way of knowing that for sure. I would guess that about half are kids. The rest are adults and women. You have to remeber that most adults, gamers or not, do not like long winded games. They want puzzels and stuff they can play in bursts.

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#25 Ontain
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What about now that the orginial gamers have gotten older, they want systems like the PS3 because of its multimedia features and its appeal to mature audience?SergeantSnitch

 what does it mean to appeal to a mature audience? the article is saying that he's not interesting in the type of games the ps3 is built for.

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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]What about now that the orginial gamers have gotten older, they want systems like the PS3 because of its multimedia features and its appeal to mature audience?goblaa

I think the article I posted shows evidence that as people grow up, their priorities change away from social classifications. The article's writer IS an original gamer.



The bulk of Nintendo DS owners are younger kids. That's why games like POKEMON, Mario, and Nintendogs sell so well. I agree with some of the points the author says, but most people beyond college don't play handhelds dude.

Well, there's really no way of knowing that for sure. I would guess that about half are kids. The rest are adults and women. You have to remeber that most adults, gamers or not, do not like long winded games. They want puzzels and stuff they can play in bursts.

it's true. I found myself playing the minigames in SuperMario 64 DS rather than the actual adventure game. 

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]What about now that the orginial gamers have gotten older, they want systems like the PS3 because of its multimedia features and its appeal to mature audience?SergeantSnitch
I think the article I posted shows evidence that as people grow up, their priorities change away from social classifications. The article's writer IS an original gamer.



The bulk of Nintendo DS owners are younger kids. That's why games like POKEMON, Mario, and Nintendogs sell so well. I agree with some of the points the author says, but most people beyond college don't play handhelds dude.

You'd be surprised. At my company, half the people here own DSes. And at another game development company one of my friends works for, they have DS tournaments every Tuesday night. Another of my friends works at a law firm in downtown LA, and a LOT of his colleagues have DSes and/or PSPs. I'd say the NDS's ownership is evenly split between young kids and grown-up working professionals. The only demographic to consciously avoid the DS would probably be the 13-21 demographic, because that's the age at which people still correlate their public image and self-esteem with what games they play.
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#28 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Hmm.  Do you say 'pollified' like mollified?

Or like Pole-ified?

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#29 mjarantilla
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Hmm. Do you say 'pollified' like mollified?

Or like Pole-ified?

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Errr..... "pole-ified," since "poll" is pronounced like "pole."
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Actually, as time goes, games are boring to me. "Gamers that grew up still addicted to games" only apply to some. Money and cars are what attracts me. Heck, I'm about to buy a brand new luxury ride.

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The future scares me... :(
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#32 mjarantilla
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Actually, as time goes, games are boring to me. "Gamers that grew up still addicted to games" only apply to some. Money and cars are what attracts me. Heck, I'm about to buy a brand new luxury ride.

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*sigh* One more year, then I can get that Lexus IS.....
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#33 Ontain
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Actually, as time goes, games are boring to me. "Gamers that grew up still addicted to games" only apply to some. Money and cars are what attracts me. Heck, I'm about to buy a brand new luxury ride.

redneckdouglas

yes that does attract some ppl. basically as we get older there are more things that vie for our time and attention. be it cars, a family, career advancement, the news, retirement planning, tracking your stocks, tracking and paying bills, maintaining your apartment/house. this all takes a lot of time. and thus there's less for gaming

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[QUOTE="beldugo"] i avoid playing outside because when i'm outside i do stuff outside the house i wouldn't normaly do not go out to play games. whats the point of going out in the first place?Jandurin
What?

when i go out the house i don't play with handhelds (games).. all game time happen inside my house. it defeats the purpose of going out in the first place, if your going out to play games ;).

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#35 Last_Stand
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I'm starting to feel exactly the same way. I've got a DS on the way from eBay because I'm on the move more and don't have the time or interest to invest in longer games. And this is the only "next-gen" system I've invested in so far. Also because I don't have the money to buy the consoles. But I think the DS has a really good library and should keep me interested. I've got two games on the way and can already think of at least five more I really want.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="beldugo"] i avoid playing outside because when i'm outside i do stuff outside the house i wouldn't normaly do not go out to play games. whats the point of going out in the first place?beldugo

What?

when i go out the house i don't play with handhelds (games).. all game time happen inside my house. it defects the purpose of going out in the first place, if your going out to play games ;). 

Ohhhh.  Makes sense.  I actually only play my handheld at my own house or when I take it to a friend's.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="beldugo"] i avoid playing outside because when i'm outside i do stuff outside the house i wouldn't normaly do not go out to play games. whats the point of going out in the first place?beldugo

What?

when i go out the house i don't play with handhelds (games).. all game time happen inside my house. it defeats the purpose of going out in the first place, if your going out to play games ;).

I usually play portables when I'm waiting for something. I don't take my portables to my friends' house (that's just rude, IMO). I play them at places like airports, trains, riding in a car (if I'm not driving :P), waiting for a doctor's appointment, etc.
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#38 Last_Stand
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I think a new generation of gamers will soon be buying the "epic blockbusters" that the aging generation made famous.

It sounds to me like this person is still playing games quite a bit. He plays on the train for roughly 45 minutes to and from work, yet he beat FFIII's 35 hour story in the first week he got it.

Vyse_The_Daring

Very interesting. Never really thought of this.

Not hard to imagine that a new era is dawning on gaming. After all, everyone who grew up with the NES or SNES is starting to get older, get solid jobs, and not have the time or interest for longer games.

If you think about this, we could easily see two camps emerging in the industry: the PS3/360 group (and similar such consoles that will follow them) that caters to the established, adolescent/young-adult gamer who has the time and resources for an epic gaming experience; and the Wii/DS group that brings in a new audience and grabs those who are aging their way out of the PS3/360 camp.

And we could easily see these two groups coexist. Microsoft seems to see this by taking on the PS3, which has the same audience, rather than the Wii. 

Timeline of a gamer:

DS/Wii---->PS3/360---->DS/Wii

Some people may never get out of stage two. Some stay interested in such games for their lives. Some may never get out of stage one and only dabble in games as a passing hobby.

Thoughts?

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I think the writer of the article's situation rides more on the culture he lives in than "growing older". I bet if I moved to Japan then I'd be engulfed in their culture as well, become an otaku, and watch anime all day and play my Wii. I live in America though, and I enjoy big HDTVs, pretty graphics, and spending tons of money on engrossing experiences. Thats just me.Vandalvideo

Truth.

I can always make time for long games. Hope they don't stop making them. 

The core gamer is getting older because the ones that grew up with NES etc. didn't quit gaming. Obviously the age will go up. If there was a seriously popular game system in the 60's or 70's then these people would have grown up playing games too, making the likelihood that they continued playing games a lot higher. It doesn't mean there are any less children and teens playing games. These kids with all sorts of free time will still play long games. The attention span of the average person seems to have gone down, but one of the most popular movie series' of our time features three movies clocking in at over 3 hours a piece. People will still play long games or watch long movies if they're quality. Nobody will slog through a 70 hour JRPG if its boring and just long for the sake of it. 

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I dig individuality. Depends on the person, some want teh wii or ds, and some want a ripe banana.
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It all depends on the individual. Just because people have other priorities doesn't always mean gaming should never exist in thier lives. Former gamers who tend to be in a relationship or married and have a family are likely to spend less time on gaming. Simply because his/her family or having a social life and a job are his/her priorities.

I'm 28, single (because I choose to, after a 4 year relationship) I have a good job in New York City and living on my own in Queens. And I don't need a car since I'm 4 blocks away from the nearest subway station. Some of the benefits of living in a large city. And I still manage to squeeze some gaming into my hectic schedule, with the Xbox being my favorite and soon I'll be getting a 360.  So, it really depends on how peope choose to live thier lives to fit thier gaming habits into thier schedule.

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What about now that the orginial gamers have gotten older, they want systems like the PS3 because of its multimedia features and its appeal to mature audience?SergeantSnitch

 

No they don't 

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#43 mjarantilla
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It all depends on the individual. Just because people have other priorities doesn't always mean gaming should never exist in thier lives. Former gamers who tend to be in a relationship or married and have a family are likely to spend less time on gaming. Simply because his/her family or having a social life and a job are his/her priorities.

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There are a HELL of a lot of people who fall into that category.
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Yeah this is why I avoid RPG's. Heck I got Okami for christmas and I STILL have only logged about 16 hours into it.  Meanwhile I beat Dead Rising, Gears of War,Killzone Liberation, and the first Halo in the  months in between.

 

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[QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="beldugo"] i avoid playing outside because when i'm outside i do stuff outside the house i wouldn't normaly do not go out to play games. whats the point of going out in the first place?mjarantilla

What?

when i go out the house i don't play with handhelds (games).. all game time happen inside my house. it defeats the purpose of going out in the first place, if your going out to play games ;).

I usually play portables when I'm waiting for something. I don't take my portables to my friends' house (that's just rude, IMO). I play them at places like airports, trains, riding in a car (if I'm not driving :P), waiting for a doctor's appointment, etc.

well does don't happen very often unless you live in japan riding train.. here in the State i have my own car and i guess nobody fly that much unless your the captain? i don't get sick that often and usually around that free time i just stop and think about the stuff i'm doing or am going to do. gaming is my Number 1 hobby but life is not all about gaming :)..

itss nice to enjoy a quiet, thinking time once in a while (that's me anyways).

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#46 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="beldugo"] i avoid playing outside because when i'm outside i do stuff outside the house i wouldn't normaly do not go out to play games. whats the point of going out in the first place?beldugo

What?

when i go out the house i don't play with handhelds (games).. all game time happen inside my house. it defeats the purpose of going out in the first place, if your going out to play games ;).

I usually play portables when I'm waiting for something. I don't take my portables to my friends' house (that's just rude, IMO). I play them at places like airports, trains, riding in a car (if I'm not driving :P), waiting for a doctor's appointment, etc.

well does don't happen very often unless you live in japan riding train.. here in the State i have my own car and i guess nobody fly that much unless your the captain? i don't get sick that often and usually around that free time i just stop and think about the stuff i'm doing or am going to do. gaming is my Number 1 hobby but life is not all about gaming :)..

itss nice to enjoy a quiet, thinking time once in a while (that's me anyways).

Depends where you live. In New York and San Francisco, the subway is one of the most common ways to get around. That said, I don't play games very much, period, because I work a lot, even after office hours, but when I do, the DS is usually my system of choice.
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It all depends on the individual. Just because people have other priorities doesn't always mean gaming should never exist in thier lives. Former gamers who tend to be in a relationship or married and have a family are likely to spend less time on gaming. Simply because his/her family or having a social life and a job are his/her priorities.

mjarantilla

There are a HELL of a lot of people who fall into that category.

Yeah I know, but simply because they choose to. 

 

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    Oblivion took me back to the days of too too much game time - but I could'nt resist the " just a few more minutes and I gotta stop playing now " type thinking lol.
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[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="beldugo"] i avoid playing outside because when i'm outside i do stuff outside the house i wouldn't normaly do not go out to play games. whats the point of going out in the first place?mjarantilla

What?

when i go out the house i don't play with handhelds (games).. all game time happen inside my house. it defeats the purpose of going out in the first place, if your going out to play games ;).

I usually play portables when I'm waiting for something. I don't take my portables to my friends' house (that's just rude, IMO). I play them at places like airports, trains, riding in a car (if I'm not driving :P), waiting for a doctor's appointment, etc.

well does don't happen very often unless you live in japan riding train.. here in the State i have my own car and i guess nobody fly that much unless your the captain? i don't get sick that often and usually around that free time i just stop and think about the stuff i'm doing or am going to do. gaming is my Number 1 hobby but life is not all about gaming :)..

itss nice to enjoy a quiet, thinking time once in a while (that's me anyways).

Depends where you live. In New York and San Francisco, the subway is one of the most common ways to get around. That said, I don't play games very much, period, because I work a lot, even after office hours, but when I do, the DS is usually my system of choice.

Yup, I'm always playing my DS on BART. 

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I think this article was right on the money for a lot of gamers entering the 28+ range (Peopel who started with NES and Sega). In my preteen-college years, I had lots of games and systems and I spent most afternoons and weekends playing different games. (I was fortunate to be able to talk my parents into a new game every few weeks, and a systems for gifts at birthdays and Christmas). After graduation, I had time but no money, so while I still played games, I didn't buy many. Then I got gainfully employed and in a relationship, and found I had money, but no time. I still bought systems and games, but didn't play the games for very long.

When the DSL came out I debated about getting it. I'd passed on the ds because I hadn't played my gba very much in the 2 years prior. I got a DSL and found that I really enjoyed the types of games it had, and the quick short bursts that I could play them in. I find that I'm enjoying a lot of the same with the Wii.

I still enjoy games like Zelda and FF, but I've come to realize that the changes that I'll every finish them before moving on to the next game I want to play is very small.