This is what happens when gamers grow up (now pollified)

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#101 mjarantilla
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All this article does is detail a personal and isolated experience from ONE person who takes a 45 min train ride to work everyday.out0v0rder
Which is why I asked if anyone agreed or could relate to the article, and lo, the majority of people who bothered to reply do agree and relate.
I live 8 mins away from work, when I get home... I get high, drunk, and I play video games with my roommates until we pass out.out0v0rder
That doesn't sound like someone who's grown out of the college lifestyle yet. You'll learn. :) (Hopefully. :|)
I could easily write an article stating that because I have grown up, I have MORE time and money to invest in video games becuse I do not to waste my time with that pitiful homework anymore.out0v0rder
You could, but I doubt a great majority of adults would agree with you.
Well what about the kids whose first system was the XBOX? They were 13ish when they got their original Xbox's and now they are 17-18ish with their X360's and what not. I'm pretty sure they want epic games now. The cycle starts all over with these younguns.out0v0rder
That depends if they're still playing. The gaming audience has continually grown older and older, not younger. The average age of a PS2 owner is now, what, in his late-twenties? You really think that's because there are a few senior citizens and a large number of juveniles? No, it's because the average person playing games got into gaming while in college, and is now a working professional.
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#102 SimpJee
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It's happening with me as well.  I want to spend a lot of time gaming, but I'm so busy and when I get off work I'm usually too tired to play.  Weekends I do play a lot though, but that will change when I start actively looking for a girlfriend ... then I have no idea when I'll play.
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#104 StealthSting
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Actually, as time goes, games are boring to me. "Gamers that grew up still addicted to games" only apply to some. Money and cars are what attracts me. Heck, I'm about to buy a brand new luxury ride.

redneckdouglas

I actually relate to this, but about the talk about epic gaming............ What epic games? What games exactly that are being done on next gen consoles, that are so much epic in comparison to specific titles from handheld gaming or earlier gen games? Hell I can see an RPG of next gen costing in the 20 millions or so perhaps even more, will this make it more epic then another RPG on handhelds? Where exactly do we draw the line, since some gamers love to do that..... Will Lost Odissey be more epic then thousands of other JPRPG that I've played all of my life? I highly, highly doubt it.

All I see nowadays is a lot of uninspired work in relation to work done in earlier gens. It's the truth, I look at the lineup of games coming up on the other consoles and people can throw it at me all they want but I don't see games with potentially higher standards in story, more deep gameplay or higher levels of difficulty in the future in relation to what we have had in the past....... Well scrap the potential part because they do, but as usual I remain skeptical.

Still the gen has only just started....... But one more reason for the whole "epic" word to not be used out of preportion. The consoles are still young and much can still be made out of them, but I see all of this "epic" relation to this current gen and I'm yet to see whats so much better about it then the previous gens before it.  

About shorter games, I think we can name for example the PS2 as following that road, with some of its most known titles. Most of the peoples favorites in the console probably don't even reach 20 hours of gaming. Sure I could name a lot of examples that stray from this on the console, but I could do the same the other way around.

 

 

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#105 out0v0rder
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[QUOTE="out0v0rder"]All this article does is detail a personal and isolated experience from ONE person who takes a 45 min train ride to work everyday.mjarantilla
Which is why I asked if anyone agreed or could relate to the article, and lo, the majority of people who bothered to reply do agree and relate.
I live 8 mins away from work, when I get home... I get high, drunk, and I play video games with my roommates until we pass out.out0v0rder
That doesn't sound like someone who's grown out of the college lifestyle yet. You'll learn. :) (Hopefully. :|)
I could easily write an article stating that because I have grown up, I have MORE time and money to invest in video games becuse I do not to waste my time with that pitiful homework anymore.out0v0rder
You could, but I doubt a great majority of adults would agree with you.
Well what about the kids whose first system was the XBOX? They were 13ish when they got their original Xbox's and now they are 17-18ish with their X360's and what not. I'm pretty sure they want epic games now. The cycle starts all over with these younguns.out0v0rder
That depends if they're still playing. The gaming audience has continually grown older and older, not younger. The average age of a PS2 owner is now, what, in his late-twenties? You really think that's because there are a few senior citizens and a large number of juveniles? No, it's because the average person playing games got into gaming while in college, and is now a working professional.

bah....no point in trying to dispute i guess. It's not like we even have a proper way of determining what the ages of gamers are anyways. You say gamers are getting older, but I haven't seen any proof, and if there is proof....Im sure younger people don't participate in surveys about their gaming habits....so the only data collected will be from older people.

I like the Wii because i get to wave stuff around and Zelda is on there..I like my DS because my friends don't have a PSP..........it's definately NOT because Im getting older and developing Alzheimers.

Anyways, what I think I wanted to say is that that the wii and ds are not going to "win" because we are getting older and developing ADD. They are going to win because the experiences they can offer are different than those of the other consoles due to their input devices and price. Also, that was a blog, not a real "article". 

I wanna get out of work and play video games. Now.

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#106 glitchgeeman
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[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

I think a new generation of gamers will soon be buying the "epic blockbusters" that the aging generation made famous.

It sounds to me like this person is still playing games quite a bit. He plays on the train for roughly 45 minutes to and from work, yet he beat FFIII's 35 hour story in the first week he got it.

Last_Stand

Very interesting. Never really thought of this.

Not hard to imagine that a new era is dawning on gaming. After all, everyone who grew up with the NES or SNES is starting to get older, get solid jobs, and not have the time or interest for longer games.

If you think about this, we could easily see two camps emerging in the industry: the PS3/360 group (and similar such consoles that will follow them) that caters to the established, adolescent/young-adult gamer who has the time and resources for an epic gaming experience; and the Wii/DS group that brings in a new audience and grabs those who are aging their way out of the PS3/360 camp.

And we could easily see these two groups coexist. Microsoft seems to see this by taking on the PS3, which has the same audience, rather than the Wii. 

Timeline of a gamer:

DS/Wii---->PS3/360---->DS/Wii

Some people may never get out of stage two. Some stay interested in such games for their lives. Some may never get out of stage one and only dabble in games as a passing hobby.

Thoughts?

I agree with you on that except for the fact that I don't follow that trend. :P

I started gaming with Nintendo, and I haven't really wavered since, and I'm in the "13-21" group. Of course, I still play other consoles, such as my PS2 and my soon to arrive 360, but Nintendo consoles are still my main console of choice.

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#107 Big_T-Mac
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it won't load for me, and i have cable. :|

assuming this says something about gamers having less and less time as they get older, its important to note that there will always be a new young audience interested in long epic games.  and as someone who is in college for a degree in Game Simulation Programming I'll say that without innovation, games get stale, but without the "older" game designs possible through 360 and ps3, games don't get any better, just different.  both are a necessity for the game industry to survive.

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#108 ish_gibbor
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I work for my self at home, so I can game while working. Yay me.
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#109 MyopicCanadian
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I think the article's a little weird. They mention how they have no time for games, yet play and finish 35+ hours of FF III in a WEEK? Something's a little off here. Even two hours a day including train time and breaks still only equates to less than half that time.

My hypothesis? His gaming tastes simply changed, and after playing all of three or so games on the DS he thinks it's the best system ever. Well after a few months and realizing that most of the games are terrible, perhaps he'll go back to his old ways.

So in case you didn't realize, at this point in time I think the article is crap. You don't need a DS or crappy online versions of board games to fit gaming into your schedule. It's all about what you want to do. Basically every genre has options to save at any point, and you can play as much or as little as you want.

During the week I work a lot too.. sometimes from 8:30 am to 4-6 am the next morning. Woop-dee-doo. When I get home I don't think, "man, I wish I had some Catan right now!" I can pick up and play Counter-strike Source, Red Orchestra, hey even F.E.A.R. allows me to save anywhere and at any point.

The person who wrote the article appears to be stating that they don't have time for JRPG's anymore. Not that little minigames are better, but basically _anything_ else.  He even mentioned Oblivion as being one of the games that he can still get in to.  How is THAT pro Wii or DS?

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#110 out0v0rder
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... at this point in time I think the article is crap...

MyopicCanadian

Now i agree with something in this thread.

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#111 FrostyPhoenixxx
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I've been gaming for 20 years, Ive grown up but I don't see why gamers have to move on. It's the same as sitting down watching a film or putting on a CD, gaming is no different. You can have a job, a girl, a nice place and still be a gamer, it's just in your mind that things have to change.

I've got a good job and have a busy life but I don't see why I have to stop playing games when I've got some free time. It's something I enjoy simple as that.

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#112 Toaster_Cell
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Well it is true that longer games don't sell as well as they used to because the gamers have become physically older, but what bothers me is that they seek these oversimplified, seemingly mindless games for entertainment (with few acceptions such as Big Brain Academy) It is true that Sony and Microsoft should lay off a little on the production on epic games for shorter yet more fun and exciting games (not that longer more epic games aren't fun and exciting) ,but to go to the extent that Nintendo is going kinda demeans the gamer demographic seeking a more complex, original games. But Nintendo knows what its consumer wants, so there is no chance that these games are going to stop coming in. It's just me...
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#114 VScalar
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I'm 34 now, with a wife and a child, and this does not fit me at all.  If anything, I'm gaming more now than before.  It is the other stuff that's fallen to the wayside-I rarely party anymore, don't go out much, etc.  While I have less free time, more of it is devoted to gaming.
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#115 The_PirateKing
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~-~I actually prefer to have large epic RPGs on a hand held. I'm still 18 and have a crap load of free time but still, I like to kick back and get comfortable on my bed without cutting of the visibility to the TV. Now some things still need graphics or just a larger screen and those I like on a TV. But if it could be done on a hand held that's where I want it. Fire Emblem is probably the biggest one. Give me the 2d graphics on a small screen, I don't care about this 3d wanna be look to a 2d game.~-~
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#116 trin
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Hey guys. That's actually my article. I just wanted to point out that some of you are losing sight of what I actually meant in the article. I hardly play less than I did before. I merely stated that the nature of how I play the games that I enjoy has changed.

I still play RPGs and SRPGs. I merely play them mostly on a handheld now. My biggest undertaking recently was SRW W for DS, which is quite literally an 80 hour game. I think a lot of people are trying to use the article as a "long games are bad" manifesto, and it really isn't. I state several times that I still play long games, but merely play them on the road or at work on a handheld, rather than at home on my big TV.

Just wanted to clear that up.

P.S. To those who think the article is crap, please let me know how I can improve it. I'm always open to feedback.

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#117 nytrospawn
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I agree with the article whole-heartedly. The past year Ive been working almost non-stop on projects , studying for exams, and just staying healthy (sleeping, eating etc). Gaming, especially console gaming, is extremely draining, when coupled with a consistent workload. Thats why I too love my DS Lite. Its got everything I want for gaming, with none of the hassles. And, it sits well with my income of 0 dollars an hour.
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#118 kittykatz5k
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They either die off or keep on, there's no question of maturity or such involved. When you grow older, you'll either keep your like of it, or not.
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#119 out0v0rder
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P.S. To those who think the article is crap, please let me know how I can improve it. I'm always open to feedback.

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make it so gamespot users cant view it.