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#51 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="StringGuard"]

[QUOTE="enral"]Why does this game look like a LBP rip off to me?BubbyJello

DING! Appears that way to me too.

And, I'm sorry TC, I don't think this is very innovative. Instead of actually controlling the character, it appears you control it by using the cursor. Not adding anything really "new" to gaming here.

Buuut, it does look very good for a Wii game, graphics wise.

Actually, the character is controlled with the nunchuck and the wind with the wiimote.

And it's a wiiware game.

Are you sure you can control the character? I've heard that you just guide him.

You can move him left and right but you can't jump. It's noticeable in the video that he moves without the wind.
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#52 bg_solidsnake
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1-LPB copy cat

2-worse grafix than LPB

/thread

hellhund

What are they copying?

The visual style.The gameplay of interaction with items.The little cute characters.The only diference is that u see a thingy that makes ur character go instead of using the dpad.
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#53 Mitazaki
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i really cant see how its copying it LBP either, this is just a simple 2D platformer done different. sure the graphics style may look like it but come on LBP is not the first game to use that kind of style. sure im looking foward to playing LBP as much as the next cow but these two games are different. one been a 2D platformer. the other a 2D puzzle, social, platformer, creation etc game
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#54 Arsuz
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Who invited LBP into this thread? :| It doesn't even vaguely resemble LBP

The main character is a human boy. And to clear up some mistakes: You DO control the main character. You do this with the nunchuck. You use the Wii remote IR function to guide the wind. So you don't even use waggle like some people suggested when noting that "waggle is not teh innovation!"

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#55 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

Bread_or_Decide

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

Hmm... well I don't see it that way. Looks like cool intuitive fun to me. Plus it's a wiiware game...not much to complain about. To each his own. But I still don't see how it's a LBP rip off cuz Lost Winds doesn't even have the same features.
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#56 hellhund
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

m_machine024

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

Hmm... well I don't see it that way. Looks like cool intuitive fun to me. Plus it's a wiiware game...not much to complain about. To each his own. But I still don't see how it's a LBP rip off cuz Lost Winds doesn't even have the same features.

For some reason, people around here feel the need to tear down anything that doesn't interest them or isn't available to them.

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#57 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="hellhund"]

Sorry, I've been busy playing games instead of reading about ones that don't come out anytime soon.

StringGuard

Look I'm not gonna be a jerk about this. So I'll just speak plainly. Your on this site so I imagine you read game news and keep up with things such as E3 and all the other gaming/industry events? Many of us do so LBP has been on our radars for quite some time. So you can either keep up with the news but don't berate those of us that do. ESPECIALLY if your going to come to gamespot/systemwars where their is little patience for your kind of half baked opinions.

You may notice no one has taken sides with your thoughts. Their is a reason for that.

And it is possible to play lots of games and keep up with the news at the same time.

Best counter post of the day, IMO. Well said Bread. Hey, that rhymes!

What rhymes? Day and Bread? You're serious?
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#58 BubbyJello
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[QUOTE="StringGuard"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="hellhund"]

Sorry, I've been busy playing games instead of reading about ones that don't come out anytime soon.

m_machine024

Look I'm not gonna be a jerk about this. So I'll just speak plainly. Your on this site so I imagine you read game news and keep up with things such as E3 and all the other gaming/industry events? Many of us do so LBP has been on our radars for quite some time. So you can either keep up with the news but don't berate those of us that do. ESPECIALLY if your going to come to gamespot/systemwars where their is little patience for your kind of half baked opinions.

You may notice no one has taken sides with your thoughts. Their is a reason for that.

And it is possible to play lots of games and keep up with the news at the same time.

Best counter post of the day, IMO. Well said Bread. Hey, that rhymes!

What rhymes? Day and Bread? You're serious?

Said and Bread...

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#59 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="hellhund"][QUOTE="bg_solidsnake"]

1-LPB copy cat

2-worse grafix than LPB

/thread

bg_solidsnake

What are they copying?

The visual style.The gameplay of interaction with items.The little cute characters.The only diference is that u see a thingy that makes ur character go instead of using the dpad.

It's cartoon style... I suppose LBP rip off Mario in artst y le huh? The items in LBP are actually the stage design unlike in Lost Winds and the cute character fits the cartoon look.
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#60 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="StringGuard"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="hellhund"]

Sorry, I've been busy playing games instead of reading about ones that don't come out anytime soon.

BubbyJello

Look I'm not gonna be a jerk about this. So I'll just speak plainly. Your on this site so I imagine you read game news and keep up with things such as E3 and all the other gaming/industry events? Many of us do so LBP has been on our radars for quite some time. So you can either keep up with the news but don't berate those of us that do. ESPECIALLY if your going to come to gamespot/systemwars where their is little patience for your kind of half baked opinions.

You may notice no one has taken sides with your thoughts. Their is a reason for that.

And it is possible to play lots of games and keep up with the news at the same time.

Best counter post of the day, IMO. Well said Bread. Hey, that rhymes!

What rhymes? Day and Bread? You're serious?

Said and Bread...

oh... not really clever.
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#61 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="bg_solidsnake"]

1-LPB copy cat

2-worse grafix than LPB

/thread

hellhund

What are they copying?


Nothing, but it is ridiculous to compare the two. This wiiware title will be tiny, and cheap. I doubt it can get close to something like LBP in terms of content and features. Luckily it doesn't even have to cause who would put a link between Lost Winds and LBP in the first place.
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#62 StringGuard
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[QUOTE="BubbyJello"][QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="StringGuard"]Best counter post of the day, IMO. Well said Bread. Hey, that rhymes!m_machine024
What rhymes? Day and Bread? You're serious?

Said and Bread...

oh... not really clever.

You just starting **** with me?!?! I was being silly, sorry it was over your head.

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#63 shearMario
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Looks awesome for a wiiware game, seems some wiiware games are turning out to be better than some standard Wii titles.
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#64 Hockey_Slayer
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OMG cows seriously, it's a LBP ripoff?? Just because the character's look the same does not make it a ripoff everything is completely different. In LBP you have to interact with the environment to get pass a level, in this game you use the wiimote to control the wind and fire and the way you attack to get pass a level.
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#65 Hockey_Slayer
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[QUOTE="hellhund"][QUOTE="bg_solidsnake"]

1-LPB copy cat

2-worse grafix than LPB

/thread

bg_solidsnake

What are they copying?

The visual style.The gameplay of interaction with items.The little cute characters.The only difference is that u see a thingy that makes your character go instead of using the dpad.

Are you **** kidding me?? You mean to tell me you think it is a ripoff because they way you interact with items? Its been around way before LBP pal. It was in Super Mario Bros for **** sakes, example ( there is a wall in Mario's way, you have to get a spring to jump over it, or you kill a turtle take a shell and beat it down. So by what you are saying LBP it just a ripoff of Mario :roll:. The only thing you can say that this game has that is similar to LBP is the art style that's about it.
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#66 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

Bread_or_Decide

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

It doesn't feel like anything yet, as this game hasn't been released. Limited media is avaible, so who knows if it's a gimmick or the real deal... but really I expected as much, this is SW... Bash now Play Later...

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#67 r_gam3
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i know lost winds look like a fantastic effort.
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#68 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

hellhund

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

Hmm... well I don't see it that way. Looks like cool intuitive fun to me. Plus it's a wiiware game...not much to complain about. To each his own. But I still don't see how it's a LBP rip off cuz Lost Winds doesn't even have the same features.

For some reason, people around here feel the need to tear down anything that doesn't interest them or isn't available to them.

And yet you decided to put down LBP in your thread for no reason. You couldn't promote Lost Winds without saying "oh and its more impressive than LBP."? I think the comparisons wouldn't have been so bad if you didn't add that uncessary bit of fanboyism.

Which consoles do you own? Just out of curiosity.

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#69 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

GundamGuy0

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

It doesn't feel like anything yet, as this game hasn't been released. Limited media is avaible, so who knows if it's a gimmick or the real deal... but really I expected as much, this is SW... Bash now Play Later...

Fair enough. We'll see how both games turn out and we'll return to this discussion when both can be played.

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#70 eklineage
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[QUOTE="hellhund"][QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

Bread_or_Decide

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

Hmm... well I don't see it that way. Looks like cool intuitive fun to me. Plus it's a wiiware game...not much to complain about. To each his own. But I still don't see how it's a LBP rip off cuz Lost Winds doesn't even have the same features.

For some reason, people around here feel the need to tear down anything that doesn't interest them or isn't available to them.

And yet you decided to put down LBP in your thread for no reason. You couldn't promote Lost Winds without saying "oh and its more impressive than LBP."? I think the comparisons wouldn't have been so bad if you didn't add that uncessary bit of fanboyism.

Which consoles do you own? Just out of curiosity.

keep in mind that anything can be called a gimmick. Graphics can also be said just like the controls. Alot of posters here only talk about graphics. PS3 with its few games but good graphics... and the 360's failure rate. BUt i respect you for at least backing up your statements unlike some other posters around SW and say stuff like "360 is the best , all the other games will flop because no one plays them"

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#71 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="hellhund"]

The motion sensing is nothing like Zack and Wiki. Not even vaguely. You might as well say it's a ripoff because of the use of color and jumping. Oh, and LBP has already wowed everyone before its even out? Exaggerations don't help you try to make your point.

hellhund

Oh man. You just owned yourself big time. Yes when LBP was shown it was a pretty big deal. Everyone will pretty much agree to that. My question is where have you been this whole time?

When an unknown title becomes a big first party exclusive by word of mouth alone its a big deal. Heck it was because of the RESPONSE it had gotten that Sony delayed the game to make it better. They saw potential and decided not to squander it.

Again, everyone? Some fanboys and reviewers equates to everyone?

LBP is the only possible reason I'd want a PS3... which is why I am seriously considering getting a PS3.... for this one game. LBP is one of the best games I have seen in years. It can't be denied that almost everyone who has seen anything about it is excited over LBP.

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#72 Ontain
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

Bread_or_Decide

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

yes like the Portals in portal was a one note gimmick too. ;)

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#73 StringGuard
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

Ontain

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

yes like the Portals in portal was a one note gimmick too. ;)

But at least that hadn't been seen before.
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#74 Hockey_Slayer
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[QUOTE="hellhund"][QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

Bread_or_Decide

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

Hmm... well I don't see it that way. Looks like cool intuitive fun to me. Plus it's a wiiware game...not much to complain about. To each his own. But I still don't see how it's a LBP rip off cuz Lost Winds doesn't even have the same features.

For some reason, people around here feel the need to tear down anything that doesn't interest them or isn't available to them.

And yet you decided to put down LBP in your thread for no reason. You couldn't promote Lost Winds without saying "oh and its more impressive than LBP."? I think the comparisons wouldn't have been so bad if you didn't add that uncessary bit of fanboyism.

Which consoles do you own? Just out of curiosity.

You have no room to talk about putting games down, one of the first things you said in this thread is saying how this game is a ripoff of LBP. When it is not, then you go on to say the game is based on one gimmick of controlling the wind, the game is not even out yet, yet you still bash it.
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#75 Mitazaki
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[QUOTE="hellhund"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="hellhund"]

The motion sensing is nothing like Zack and Wiki. Not even vaguely. You might as well say it's a ripoff because of the use of color and jumping. Oh, and LBP has already wowed everyone before its even out? Exaggerations don't help you try to make your point.

Tylendal

Oh man. You just owned yourself big time. Yes when LBP was shown it was a pretty big deal. Everyone will pretty much agree to that. My question is where have you been this whole time?

When an unknown title becomes a big first party exclusive by word of mouth alone its a big deal. Heck it was because of the RESPONSE it had gotten that Sony delayed the game to make it better. They saw potential and decided not to squander it.

Again, everyone? Some fanboys and reviewers equates to everyone?

LBP is the only possible reason I'd want a PS3... which is why I am seriously considering getting a PS3.... for this one game. LBP is one of the best games I have seen in years. It can't be denied that almost everyone who has seen anything about it is excited over LBP.

i agree, LBP just looks like so much fun. I would get a ps3 just for this game, dont care about mgs4, gta 4 etc

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#76 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]

yes like the Portals in portal was a one note gimmick too. ;)

StringGuard

But at least that hadn't been seen before.

I've never controled the wind like that before in a 2d scroller. have you?

as for portals. i have seen them before. Portal just made it central to gameplay and used it well. Much like what i see with the wind control in this game.

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#77 Hockey_Slayer
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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

StringGuard

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

yes like the Portals in portal was a one note gimmick too. ;)

But at least that hadn't been seen before.

Oh so you saw a game were you make a pattern with the wind using the wiimote to get you up on a platform or to kill your enemies with?
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#78 HarlockJC
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OMG cows seriously, it's a LBP ripoff?? Just because the character's look the same does not make it a ripoff everything is completely different. In LBP you have to interact with the environment to get pass a level, in this game you use the wiimote to control the wind and fire and the way you attack to get pass a level.Hockey_Slayer

Agreed...I think comparing the two is just crazy. Beside a character looking kinda alike which is done all the time in Comic, gaming and movies there nothing else.

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[QUOTE="StringGuard"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

Hockey_Slayer

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

yes like the Portals in portal was a one note gimmick too. ;)

But at least that hadn't been seen before.

Oh so you saw a game were you make a pattern with the wind using the wiimote to get you up on a platform or to kill your enemies with?

Okami allowed you to draw the wind in different directions to effect the environment. It was one of the brush powers. So yeah I have seen this before.

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#80 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"]OMG cows seriously, it's a LBP ripoff?? Just because the character's look the same does not make it a ripoff everything is completely different. In LBP you have to interact with the environment to get pass a level, in this game you use the wiimote to control the wind and fire and the way you attack to get pass a level.HarlockJC

Agreed...I think comparing the two is just crazy. Beside a character looking kinda alike which is done all the time in Comic, gaming and movies there nothing else.

Not crazy at all. The similarities are worth noting. Especially when its really blatant.

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#81 eklineage
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[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"][QUOTE="StringGuard"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

Bread_or_Decide

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

yes like the Portals in portal was a one note gimmick too. ;)

But at least that hadn't been seen before.

Oh so you saw a game were you make a pattern with the wind using the wiimote to get you up on a platform or to kill your enemies with?

Okami allowed you to draw the wind in different directions to effect the environment. It was one of the brush powers. So yeah I have seen this before.

if you put it that way. Isn't there a possibility that everything in LBP has been done b4 in any shape or form?

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#82 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="hellhund"][QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

Hockey_Slayer

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

Hmm... well I don't see it that way. Looks like cool intuitive fun to me. Plus it's a wiiware game...not much to complain about. To each his own. But I still don't see how it's a LBP rip off cuz Lost Winds doesn't even have the same features.

For some reason, people around here feel the need to tear down anything that doesn't interest them or isn't available to them.

And yet you decided to put down LBP in your thread for no reason. You couldn't promote Lost Winds without saying "oh and its more impressive than LBP."? I think the comparisons wouldn't have been so bad if you didn't add that uncessary bit of fanboyism.

Which consoles do you own? Just out of curiosity.

You have no room to talk about putting games down, one of the first things you said in this thread is saying how this game is a ripoff of LBP. When it is not, then you go on to say the game is based on one gimmick of controlling the wind, the game is not even out yet, yet you still bash it.

TC mentioned LBP. So if he's going to put it down I'll metnion that this game rips it off.

I never bashed the game. I claimed that its nothing special from those videos shown and its a rip off of other games. So my assessment is based solely on the evidence given. And this "wind" feature certainly doesn't LOOK impressive or interesting to me. It looks like a gimmick. Just like the Glaive in Dark Sector.

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#83 Bread_or_Decide
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if you put it that way. Isn't there a possibility that everything in LBP has been done b4 in any shape or form?

eklineage

Okay but Lost Winds doesn't have an attention grabbing visual presence. Nor does it seem cute or charming. And LBP gives off the feeling that it's doing something we haven't seen before and considering the response it has gotten I can attest that most believe this to be true. Generic games are ignored. The only people making a fuss about Lost Winds are sheep who have nothing else to get excited about.

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[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"][QUOTE="StringGuard"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

Bread_or_Decide

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

yes like the Portals in portal was a one note gimmick too. ;)

But at least that hadn't been seen before.

Oh so you saw a game were you make a pattern with the wind using the wiimote to get you up on a platform or to kill your enemies with?

Okami allowed you to draw the wind in different directions to effect the environment. It was one of the brush powers. So yeah I have seen this before.

But the game wasn't based totally around it, I'm pretty sure we saw Portals in a game before also,it's just they based the game off of it and it turned out good. This game might make good use of the wind ability also, no one has even gave it a chance yet, you cows just come in yelling that it was a LBP ripoff. When they are nothing alike besides a sidescroller and the art style is similar.
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#85 Hockey_Slayer
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[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="hellhund"][QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

Bread_or_Decide

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

Hmm... well I don't see it that way. Looks like cool intuitive fun to me. Plus it's a wiiware game...not much to complain about. To each his own. But I still don't see how it's a LBP rip off cuz Lost Winds doesn't even have the same features.

For some reason, people around here feel the need to tear down anything that doesn't interest them or isn't available to them.

And yet you decided to put down LBP in your thread for no reason. You couldn't promote Lost Winds without saying "oh and its more impressive than LBP."? I think the comparisons wouldn't have been so bad if you didn't add that uncessary bit of fanboyism.

Which consoles do you own? Just out of curiosity.

You have no room to talk about putting games down, one of the first things you said in this thread is saying how this game is a ripoff of LBP. When it is not, then you go on to say the game is based on one gimmick of controlling the wind, the game is not even out yet, yet you still bash it.

TC mentioned LBP. So if he's going to put it down I'll metnion that this game rips it off.

I never bashed the game. I claimed that its nothing special from those videos shown and its a rip off of other games. So my assessment is based solely on the evidence given. And this "wind" feature certainly doesn't LOOK impressive or interesting to me. It looks like a gimmick. Just like the Glaive in Dark Sector.

Yea and the TC is a level 4 with 123 post. You should know better then to take flambait.
I'm pretty sure this is considered bashing when you say something like this "Wow this is a rip off of LBP. Kind of embarassing." The game may not look interesting to you, but it do to others so that's just opinion.
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#86 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"][QUOTE="StringGuard"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

Hockey_Slayer

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

yes like the Portals in portal was a one note gimmick too. ;)

But at least that hadn't been seen before.

Oh so you saw a game were you make a pattern with the wind using the wiimote to get you up on a platform or to kill your enemies with?

Okami allowed you to draw the wind in different directions to effect the environment. It was one of the brush powers. So yeah I have seen this before.

But the game wasn't based totally around it, I'm pretty sure we saw Portals in a game before also,it's just they based the game off of it and it turned out good. This game might make good use of the wind ability also, no one has even gave it a chance yet, you cows just come in yelling that it was a LBP ripoff. When they are nothing alike besides a sidescroller and the art style is similar.

TC was the first to mention LBP. Ask him why he brought it up.

I'll give it a chance when I see more impressive footage.

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#87 Hockey_Slayer
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TC was the first to mention LBP. Ask him why he brought it up.

I'll give it a chance when I see more impressive footage.

Bread_or_Decide
Because like I said before he is Level 4 with 123 post, he is a fakeboy.
Edit: You should know better then to take flambait.
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#88 taker42
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Because like I said before he is Level 4 with 123 post, he is a fakeboy.
Edit: You should know better then to take flambait.Hockey_Slayer
Some people don't need flamebait to start bashing :wink:
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#89 Hockey_Slayer
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[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"] Because like I said before he is Level 4 with 123 post, he is a fakeboy.
Edit: You should know better then to take flambait.taker42
Some people don't need flamebait to start bashing :wink:

Yea tell me about it.
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#90 taker42
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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

StringGuard

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

yes like the Portals in portal was a one note gimmick too. ;)

But at least that hadn't been seen before.

Portals been done in Prey :|
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#91 Ontain
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[QUOTE="eklineage"]

if you put it that way. Isn't there a possibility that everything in LBP has been done b4 in any shape or form?

Bread_or_Decide

Okay but Lost Winds doesn't have an attention grabbing visual presence. Nor does it seem cute or charming. And LBP gives off the feeling that it's doing something we haven't seen before and considering the response it has gotten I can attest that most believe this to be true. Generic games are ignored. The only people making a fuss about Lost Winds are sheep who have nothing else to get excited about.

that's your opinion. i would totally disagree with you.

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[QUOTE="StringGuard"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

This game a LBP rip-off? Can you in LBP interact with objects without the character touching it? Can you in LBP design the direction of the fire to solve puzzles? Can you in LBP actually control the direction of the wind? Plus LBP doesn't have even near the same intuitivity as Lost Winds.

It's a rip-off because it's 2D designed platforming I suppose???:?

taker42

That wind feature feels like a one note gimmick. A boring game designed around ONE feature (See army of two, dark sector for other examples) hoping that you are dazzled enough by it that you'll ignore that everything else is typical, cliched, and a rip off of better games.

yes like the Portals in portal was a one note gimmick too. ;)

But at least that hadn't been seen before.

Portals been done in Prey :|

Bad example since it wasn't utilized in the same way.

There were portals in C64 games...

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Interesting looking game. I can see it being a problem for some of the less coordinated gamers. I really don't classify thumb movements as being well coordinated just to clairify. I know someone out there would think that Halo requires insane coordination and control.
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#94 taker42
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[QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="StringGuard"]

But at least that hadn't been seen before.Arnalion

Portals been done in Prey :|

Bad example since it wasn't utilized in the same way.

There were portals in C64 games...

He was talking about "seen" :P
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I thought it was about PS2 ports? I kid
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Isn't LBP mostly about user generated content, and realistic physics? While Lost Wind is a pretty standard platformer, with a wind controlling theme. If Lost Wind ripped off LBP, then why is Lost Winds nothing like LBP?

Plus, this isn't near LBP quality, don't feel threatened.

BubbyJello

Yeah they look different to me. Both games look boring as h*ll to me. What is so fun about playing with fruity looking stuffed animal things.LBP Or moving your arm in constant circles for hours. LW

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I dont see whats so good about LBP. User generated content, Customizable characters, playing your own levels online with friends... I pretty much do that everytime i play Tony Hawk games online :roll: It does have a cute charm to it though.
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I dont see whats so good about LBP. User generated content, Customizable characters, playing your own levels online with friends... I pretty much do that everytime i play Tony Hawk games online :roll: It does have a cute charm to it though. Silenthps

It's a cool physics based platformer with incredible customization. Looks great to me. but how lost winds is a ripoff of it when the gameplay is completely different is beyond me. Yes I know the characters look similar.

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http://uk.wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14236589/lostwinds/videos/lostwindswii_040808.html

I've seen little big planet which was alright but this just blew me away in stylé.

Dibdibdobdobo

This is a rather self-defeating post.

Your thread title says that the Wii is about innovative games...then you mention Little Big Planet and then link us to a game that looks cool, but is nowhere near as innovative.

It's not really innovative at all. The core gameplay mechanic seems that like a feature you might find in a bigger game.

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[QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="BubbyJello"][QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="StringGuard"]Best counter post of the day, IMO. Well said Bread. Hey, that rhymes!StringGuard
What rhymes? Day and Bread? You're serious?

Said and Bread...

oh... not really clever.

You just starting **** with me?!?! I was being silly, sorry it was over your head.

Hahaha sorry. I acted stupid there.