This is Why The Witcher 2 Will Never Be As Good As Skyrim.

lmao I knew he was a 360 dudebro. Only lemmings are this dumb.

[QUOTE="Mario_Eater"]There wasn't any need to start over again. On my first play through (PC version) I got caught whilst trying to sneak behind loredo's house, but I could still beat the Kayran... Slimmin360

I don't see why people are jumping on the dude's nuts for this, it's a honest mistake.

GD1551

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

I don't see why people are jumping on the dude's nuts for this, it's a honest mistake.

GD1551

Even still, a bit of overraction don't you think?

And didnt he overreacted when he made this thread? not only that but according to him his mistake is the fault of the game and because of it he is "forced" to restart his game, and that's why according to him Skyrim is better than TW2, even when they are completely different games.

I really dont get it when people compare games just for a small similarity in setting or somethinglike that, like when Skyrim came out there was a bunch of Skyrim vs Dark Souls threads, even tho they are completely different games that shouldn't even be compared.

it's as stupid as the people who compare mass effect with star wars, just because they are both in space

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

TL;DR

but judging by the responses it's a load of crap anyway

lightleggy

Wait that Iron Frame thing? :?

I've never used that in the game in all 3 playthroughs

Let me start my saying i picked up the Witcher 2 for 360 and i absolutely love it, story, graphics, gameplay, combat, spells...everything.

However there is a flaw in the game, i was up to the part where, while in the village i must gather what i need for the Yrden trap to fight against the Kayran.

Well for those who know the game, i collected everything i needed except the iron frame for the trap, so i proceeded to sneak around the back of Loredo's house to the sealed off area where the iron frame is kept, i was able to get passed one guard but was seen by the other.

Then the game goes into a cut scene with Loredo, who infact asked me to kill the kayran so i thought i would either be given the iron frame i needed or be able to kill it without it, but no such luck with either thought, infact the indecent proposal quest was ended and i was not able to go back and get the iron frame from the chest.

By the time i realized i absolutely needed it to defeat the kayran and proceed with the game, i had already completed 3 more quests.

I only had 6 save files 3 auto saves and 3 of my own, and none of them went as far back as before the indecent proposal quest or before the cutscene with Loredo.

I'm now forced to start the game over after nearly 9 hours of gameplay put in thus far, or i will be stuck in this seaside village for good.

In Skyrim this doesn't happen, oh you can fail a quest but you will always be able to continue on in the game and finish countless other quests, and in my mind thats a true open world rpg.

Now fanboys will probably blame me and my lack of game saves, but c'mon i had 6 saves and it still left me no choice but to start the game over, ok i know the choices effect the way game plays out, but it's not supposed to hinder your progress, thats where they should've taken a lesson from Skyrim.

Slimmin360

Lol what... You dont need the trap to kill it. I killed it both times without the trap. Easy.

I honestly find it everything skyrim should have been, the narratives good the world feels alive and all in all the world is much better design wise along with the combat.

Honestly i think its a far better game production wise and gameplay wise than skyrim.

Oh yeah not to mention the Uk edition came with a guide and map for the standard price, whats not to like about that :)

I honestly find it everything skyrim should have been, the narratives good the world feels alive and all in all the world is much better design wise along with the combat.

Honestly i think its a far better game production wise and gameplay wise than skyrim.

Oh yeah not to mention the Uk edition came with a guide and map for the standard price, whats not to like about that :)

razgriz_101

If you bought it or put your cd key on GoG you get the artbook and a bunch of other online things for free. You also get the game DRM free and can download it off their site anytime.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

I honestly find it everything skyrim should have been, the narratives good the world feels alive and all in all the world is much better design wise along with the combat.

Honestly i think its a far better game production wise and gameplay wise than skyrim.

Oh yeah not to mention the Uk edition came with a guide and map for the standard price, whats not to like about that :)

Cloud567kar

If you bought it or put your cd key on GoG you get the artbook and a bunch of other online things for free. You also get the game DRM free and can download it off their site anytime.

got the 360 version man :) still honestly well worth the £40 its a fantastic game and its not often you get much inside a box these days.Makes me happy when you know a publishers giving you a couple little goodies with the game.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] Because a simple google search would have gave him his answer and stopped him from making the thread.lightleggy

Even still, a bit of overraction don't you think?

And didnt he overreacted when he made this thread? not only that but according to him his mistake is the fault of the game and because of it he is "forced" to restart his game, and that's why according to him Skyrim is better than TW2, even when they are completely different games.

I really dont get it when people compare games just for a small similarity in setting or somethinglike that, like when Skyrim came out there was a bunch of Skyrim vs Dark Souls threads, even tho they are completely different games that shouldn't even be compared.

it's as stupid as the people who compare mass effect with star wars, just because they are both in space

Not really, I mean he didn't know that you didn't need it and quite frankly he thought you did since in most games he's probably played the quests don't offer that much freedom. I agree the comparison is nonsense though, one is an open world rpg with emphasis on freedom and the other one is linear and more story focused.

I don't see why people are jumping on the dude's nuts for this, it's a honest mistake.

GD1551

to be fair though tw2 does an awful job of explaining anything to you. It was like two hours before i figured out silver is for monsters and steel is for humans. mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]to be fair though tw2 does an awful job of explaining anything to you. It was like two hours before i figured out silver is for monsters and steel is for humans. freedomfreak

yea, i was wondering why i couldnt kill anything half the time lol i was just lost most of the time with the lore or why i should care about triss or yennifer or anyone. They just throw a bunch of names at you at first and expect you to care. I mean they had to have assumed people playing on 360 would have no clue about the backstory mems_1224

I'm not sure,but I think there are videos in the main menu that explain a few of the things that happened in the first Witcher.

But yeah,it's a sequel. You will be lost for a bit if you haven't played the first one.

[QUOTE="Mario_Eater"]There wasn't any need to start over again. On my first play through (PC version) I got caught whilst trying to sneak behind loredo's house, but I could still beat the Kayran... Slimmin360

in the pc version...it auto saves before the sneaking quest...i believe the game saves everytime a quest is updated...also...ive played thru on pc(dont have a 360 sorry) on the next to hardest difficulty(dying didnt cause permadeath) and...you honestly dont NEED the trap to kill it...you have to know how to kill the kayran...which is really quite simple...<5 minute fight

also the only reason to go back there is for a free armor (which u can get better...if memory serves correctly...in act 1) and the trap piece

why woul u WANT to go back when the story has moved on and you have other goals

to be fair though tw2 does an awful job of explaining anything to you. It was like two hours before i figured out silver is for monsters and steel is for humans. mems_1224

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Mario_Eater"]There wasn't any need to start over again. On my first play through (PC version) I got caught whilst trying to sneak behind loredo's house, but I could still beat the Kayran... lpjazzman220

in the pc version...it auto saves before the sneaking quest...i believe the game saves everytime a quest is updated...also...ive played thru on pc(dont have a 360 sorry) on the next to hardest difficulty(dying didnt cause permadeath) and...you honestly dont NEED the trap to kill it...you have to know how to kill the kayran...which is really quite simple...<5 minute fight

also the only reason to go back there is for a free armor (which u can get better...if memory serves correctly...in act 1) and the trap piece

why woul u WANT to go back when the story has moved on and you have other goals

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]yea, i was wondering why i couldnt kill anything half the time lol i was just lost most of the time with the lore or why i should care about triss or yennifer or anyone. They just throw a bunch of names at you at first and expect you to care. I mean they had to have assumed people playing on 360 would have no clue about the backstory freedomfreak

I'm not sure,but I think there are videos in the main menu that explain a few of the things that happened in the first Witcher.

But yeah,it's a sequel. You will be lost for a bit if you haven't played the first one.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]yea, i was wondering why i couldnt kill anything half the time lol i was just lost most of the time with the lore or why i should care about triss or yennifer or anyone. They just throw a bunch of names at you at first and expect you to care. I mean they had to have assumed people playing on 360 would have no clue about the backstory lightleggy

I'm not sure,but I think there are videos in the main menu that explain a few of the things that happened in the first Witcher.

But yeah,it's a sequel. You will be lost for a bit if you haven't played the first one.

think about it this way too...geralt doesnt remember much before tw1...so yennefer and ciri...he doesnt know who they are till they are mentioned...and yeah theres more back story...but most of what you(geralt) knows...is what you are showed...imagine if you were 30 some odd years old and you only have 3 months of memory at that point...

lrn2save

Huh? :? You don't need anything to defeat the Kayran, you can defeat it without even drinking Ostmurk, it's just harder.

Peredith

Not really, i've done the quest with and without the ostmurk, and i barely noticed any difference, even on Dark Mode.

Here's my nr. 1 reason: because the Witcher 2 is sh-t.

[QUOTE="lpjazzman220"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] I haven't started over yet, if you know a way around this, then by all means please tell me and i'll do it, and then i'll retract and delete my whole statement in this thread.lightleggy

in the pc version...it auto saves before the sneaking quest...i believe the game saves everytime a quest is updated...also...ive played thru on pc(dont have a 360 sorry) on the next to hardest difficulty(dying didnt cause permadeath) and...you honestly dont NEED the trap to kill it...you have to know how to kill the kayran...which is really quite simple...<5 minute fight

also the only reason to go back there is for a free armor (which u can get better...if memory serves correctly...in act 1) and the trap piece

why woul u WANT to go back when the story has moved on and you have other goals

to be fair though tw2 does an awful job of explaining anything to you. It was like two hours before i figured out silver is for monsters and steel is for humans. mems_1224

to be fair though tw2 does an awful job of explaining anything to you. It was like two hours before i figured out silver is for monsters and steel is for humans. mems_1224

That's because the expects you to assume it, you know, like a smart person.

after you face the dragon for the first time, you no longer have a steel sword, and when you arrive in flotsam, theres a quest that specifically says "get a silver sword", what do you think it's for?

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="lpjazzman220"]

in the pc version...it auto saves before the sneaking quest...i believe the game saves everytime a quest is updated...also...ive played thru on pc(dont have a 360 sorry) on the next to hardest difficulty(dying didnt cause permadeath) and...you honestly dont NEED the trap to kill it...you have to know how to kill the kayran...which is really quite simple...<5 minute fight

also the only reason to go back there is for a free armor (which u can get better...if memory serves correctly...in act 1) and the trap piece

why woul u WANT to go back when the story has moved on and you have other goals

SkyWard20

[QUOTE="lpjazzman220"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] I haven't started over yet, if you know a way around this, then by all means please tell me and i'll do it, and then i'll retract and delete my whole statement in this thread.lightleggy

in the pc version...it auto saves before the sneaking quest...i believe the game saves everytime a quest is updated...also...ive played thru on pc(dont have a 360 sorry) on the next to hardest difficulty(dying didnt cause permadeath) and...you honestly dont NEED the trap to kill it...you have to know how to kill the kayran...which is really quite simple...<5 minute fight

also the only reason to go back there is for a free armor (which u can get better...if memory serves correctly...in act 1) and the trap piece

why woul u WANT to go back when the story has moved on and you have other goals

I don't see why people are jumping on the dude's nuts for this, it's a honest mistake.

GD1551

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="lpjazzman220"]

in the pc version...it auto saves before the sneaking quest...i believe the game saves everytime a quest is updated...also...ive played thru on pc(dont have a 360 sorry) on the next to hardest difficulty(dying didnt cause permadeath) and...you honestly dont NEED the trap to kill it...you have to know how to kill the kayran...which is really quite simple...<5 minute fight

also the only reason to go back there is for a free armor (which u can get better...if memory serves correctly...in act 1) and the trap piece

why woul u WANT to go back when the story has moved on and you have other goals

dommeus

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]to be fair though tw2 does an awful job of explaining anything to you. It was like two hours before i figured out silver is for monsters and steel is for humans. cfstar

That's because the expects you to assume it, you know, like a smart person.

after you face the dragon for the first time, you no longer have a steel sword, and when you arrive in flotsam, theres a quest that specifically says "get a silver sword", what do you think it's for?

Let me start my saying i picked up the Witcher 2 for 360 and i absolutely love it, story, graphics, gameplay, combat, spells...everything.

However there is a flaw in the game, i was up to the part where, while in the village i must gather what i need for the Yrden trap to fight against the Kayran.

Well for those who know the game, i collected everything i needed except the iron frame for the trap, so i proceeded to sneak around the back of Loredo's house to the sealed off area where the iron frame is kept, i was able to get passed one guard but was seen by the other.

Then the game goes into a cut scene with Loredo, who infact asked me to kill the kayran so i thought i would either be given the iron frame i needed or be able to kill it without it, but no such luck with either thought, infact the indecent proposal quest was ended and i was not able to go back and get the iron frame from the chest.

By the time i realized i absolutely needed it to defeat the kayran and proceed with the game, i had already completed 3 more quests.

I only had 6 save files 3 auto saves and 3 of my own, and none of them went as far back as before the indecent proposal quest or before the cutscene with Loredo.

I'm now forced to start the game over after nearly 9 hours of gameplay put in thus far, or i will be stuck in this seaside village for good.

In Skyrim this doesn't happen, oh you can fail a quest but you will always be able to continue on in the game and finish countless other quests, and in my mind thats a true open world rpg.

Now fanboys will probably blame me and my lack of game saves, but c'mon i had 6 saves and it still left me no choice but to start the game over, ok i know the choices effect the way game plays out, but it's not supposed to hinder your progress, thats where they should've taken a lesson from Skyrim.

Slimmin360

[QUOTE="cfstar"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]to be fair though tw2 does an awful job of explaining anything to you. It was like two hours before i figured out silver is for monsters and steel is for humans. mems_1224

That's because the expects you to assume it, you know, like a smart person.

after you face the dragon for the first time, you no longer have a steel sword, and when you arrive in flotsam, theres a quest that specifically says "get a silver sword", what do you think it's for?

to be fair though tw2 does an awful job of explaining anything to you. It was like two hours before i figured out silver is for monsters and steel is for humans. mems_1224

Let me start my saying i picked up the Witcher 2 for 360 and i absolutely love it, story, graphics, gameplay, combat, spells...everything.

However there is a flaw in the game, i was up to the part where, while in the village i must gather what i need for the Yrden trap to fight against the Kayran.

Well for those who know the game, i collected everything i needed except the iron frame for the trap, so i proceeded to sneak around the back of Loredo's house to the sealed off area where the iron frame is kept, i was able to get passed one guard but was seen by the other.

Then the game goes into a cut scene with Loredo, who infact asked me to kill the kayran so i thought i would either be given the iron frame i needed or be able to kill it without it, but no such luck with either thought, infact the indecent proposal quest was ended and i was not able to go back and get the iron frame from the chest.

By the time i realized i absolutely needed it to defeat the kayran and proceed with the game, i had already completed 3 more quests.

I only had 6 save files 3 auto saves and 3 of my own, and none of them went as far back as before the indecent proposal quest or before the cutscene with Loredo.

I'm now forced to start the game over after nearly 9 hours of gameplay put in thus far, or i will be stuck in this seaside village for good.

In Skyrim this doesn't happen, oh you can fail a quest but you will always be able to continue on in the game and finish countless other quests, and in my mind thats a true open world rpg.

Now fanboys will probably blame me and my lack of game saves, but c'mon i had 6 saves and it still left me no choice but to start the game over, ok i know the choices effect the way game plays out, but it's not supposed to hinder your progress, thats where they should've taken a lesson from Skyrim.

Slimmin360

Errr you don"t actually need that trap to fight the kayran , you can defeat it without the trap. The trap just gives you an advantage. The potion though you will need.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="cfstar"]

That's because the expects you to assume it, you know, like a smart person.

after you face the dragon for the first time, you no longer have a steel sword, and when you arrive in flotsam, theres a quest that specifically says "get a silver sword", what do you think it's for?

lightleggy

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] i dont even remember that quest, i just randomly crafted a silver sword on my ownmems_1224

You get a quest (A Sword for Monsters) telling you to craft a silver sword as soon as you get of the boat at Flotsom. It pops up in huge orange letters lol

Skyrim is trash, i kill the emperor and i can join the empire legion freely and welcomely. Witcher 2 FTW

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] thing is you still get a huge tutorial message saying "use the silver sword for monster" the first time you fight a monster, and if you insist on attacking monsters with the steel sword later on the game, you'll get that message again, and not only that but geralt will also comment "Gotta use the silver sword" seriously I dont know how you missed all those hints...Peredith

You get a quest (A Sword for Monsters) telling you to craft a silver sword as soon as you get of the boat at Flotsom. It pops up in huge orange letters lol

yeah and was one of the first things i did, even due to mythology an the likes i thought silver might be needed for something at the start of the game and i finally worked it out with running out of flotsam and playing whackamole with the first thing i seen :D

The awkward moment when skyrim is an abomination and was only good because it was hyped up. In all actuality it was awful. The one possibly redeeming feature of the game, the story, was just as weak as oblivion and the combat was basically unchanged and absolutely abysmal. Skyrim was a terrible game. I have no doubts that the witcher 2 will be exponentially better than skyrim, hell Lair is better than skyrim

The awkward moment when skyrim is an abomination and was only good because it was hyped up. In all actuality it was awful. The one possibly redeeming feature of the game, the story, was just as weak as oblivion and the combat was basically unchanged and absolutely abysmal. Skyrim was a terrible game. I have no doubts that the witcher 2 will be exponentially better than skyrim, hell Lair is better than skyrim

Blaz3_fox

Dont get me wrong skyrims a good game within its own right, problem is it just tends to feel derivative after a while, exploring is fun but half the time the quests feel dragged out and uninvolving aswell as there feeling like there was no actual aim cept heres a massive game world we'll drop you in with a cool as hell intro mission then its up to you.It just feels like it cant ever make up its mind although it has some very good core elements and stat based gameplay but the combat just feels like wank which kills it.

Translation: "The Witcher 2 Will Never Be As Good As Skyrim because your choices actually mean something and make a difference"

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Mario_Eater"]There wasn't any need to start over again. On my first play through (PC version) I got caught whilst trying to sneak behind loredo's house, but I could still beat the Kayran... Crossel777

You don't need the Kayran trap to beat the Kayran, it's just a extra advantage. You can beat it with Yrden sign, sword swings and lots of dodge rolling.

Skyrim is trash, i kill the emperor and i can join the empire legion freely and welcomely. Witcher 2 FTW

fachriunited

Yeah well, Bethesda games were never known for their coherence :lol: :lol: :lol:

skyrim is the better game