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#1 pl4yer_f0und
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Here is a high quality video of Forza 4 in motion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-paHCbNrro&hd=1

I hope that puts to rest the idea that Forza 4 can't look that good on a 360. And we have real grass!!:P

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#2 shadow8585
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Gran Turismo by default and the amazing work coming from Turn 10 is no longer even relevant in the racing genre. Its Mercedes Benz, its been around forever, has a high profile name but next to the competition (BMW, Audi) the quality just isn't there like it used to be. Forza 4 will shatter GT5 and while we waited we had 2 great games in Forza 2 and Forza 3 to enjoy. GT5 fans just enjoyed delays for a product that did not warrant any delays
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#3 racing1750
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Haters were silenced along time ago. FM4 is going to be, well look at the sig.
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#4 vashkey
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Anyone who honestly believes the game can't look good just because is on the 360 clearly can't be reasoned with conventional logic. Here, I'll show you how it's done. Moooooooooo. There ya go guys.
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#5 R3FURBISHED
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It'll Rock Your Socks

(I think that should be Turn 10s theme song)

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#6 i5750at4Ghz
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Forza has no haters. It's by far the best console sim out there.
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#7 madmidnight
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I must have missed the Forza hate. I mean it is the ONLY 100% AAA racing franchise ever. Plus it is a helluva lot of fun. Love the menus and the cars in the series.
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#8 eboyishere
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you know what they say TC...

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#9 shadow8585
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This is a serious slap in the face to any cow racing fan who was talking up GT5 and posting pictures for the 3-4 years they waited for it
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#10 dxmcat
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im fairly certain that forza games are the one and only source the world needs to put gloss top coats on everything.

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#11 pl4yer_f0und
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you know what they say TC...

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:lol:Hahaha

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[QUOTE="madmidnight"]I must have missed the Forza hate. I mean it is the ONLY 100% AAA racing franchise ever. Plus it is a helluva lot of fun. Love the menus and the cars in the series.

Forza is hard to hate on but god do the haters try. I remember haters saying FM3 looked like a cartoon, yes that desperate!
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#13 argetlam00
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never was a fan of GT and Forza. Both bored me. Arcade racers FTW!

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never was a fan of GT and Forza. Both bored me. Arcade racers FTW!

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Sims > Arcade racers :D
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#15 zeta
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Haters were silenced along time ago. FM4 is going to be, well look at the sig.racing1750
Your sig should really just say "The Definitive CONSOLE Racing Game is Back." As good as it looks (and it's very pleasing compared to GT5..or any other race sim I ever seen), I know that this game will not be as definitive as iRacing or rFactor (well, modified rFactor). I don't mean to sound elitist, but it's just the truth.
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Anyone who honestly believes the game can't look good just because is on the 360 clearly can't be reasoned with conventional logic. Here, I'll show you how it's done. Moooooooooo. There ya go guys.vashkey

oh, so you dont remember how in the past 2 Forza games on E3, they showed trailers on what is known to be Photomode and in reality does not look as good in gameplay/motion? HA. wehere were you the past 4 years? were you absent everytime the Forza demo comes out and fanboys would cry afould for leading them to believe the game looks as gorgeous as the trailers?

well, people really never learn.

good thing the gauges now work.

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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="madmidnight"]I must have missed the Forza hate. I mean it is the ONLY 100% AAA racing franchise ever. Plus it is a helluva lot of fun. Love the menus and the cars in the series.

Forza is hard to hate on but god do the haters try. I remember haters saying FM3 looked like a cartoon, yes that desperate!

I remember that, I just hadn't seen any FM4 hate yet. I mean you hate on FM4 but what out there is better? GT6? Not this generation. I think GT6 and FM6 will release on Xbox Next, and PS4 Holiday 2015.
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This is a serious slap in the face to any cow racing fan who was talking up GT5 and posting pictures for the 3-4 years they waited for itshadow8585

GT5 good game hindered by design choices but at the same time Poly have been supportive in evolving it and listening.

Forza good game hindered by fanboys saying its the best thing evar!!!

Both games are fantastic.Put too many hours into both franchises to really believe it.

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[QUOTE="madmidnight"]I must have missed the Forza hate. I mean it is the ONLY 100% AAA racing franchise ever. Plus it is a helluva lot of fun. Love the menus and the cars in the series. racing1750
Forza is hard to hate on but god do the haters try. I remember haters saying FM3 looked like a cartoon, yes that desperate!

Wow i missed that , I'm guilty of hyping GT5 as the better games , but oh my , what a disappointment , Forza it is.I think only a hater of the genre could hate forza.

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#20 racing1750
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[QUOTE="racing1750"]Haters were silenced along time ago. FM4 is going to be, well look at the sig.zeta
Your sig should really just say "The Definitive CONSOLE Racing Game is Back." As good as it looks (and it's very pleasing compared to GT5..or any other race sim I ever seen), I know that this game will not be as definitive as iRacing or rFactor (well, modified rFactor). I don't mean to sound elitist, but it's just the truth.

Forza 3 is the highest rated racing game on GS. higher than any PC racer, therefore my sig shall remain the same :D
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#21 Vadamee
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WOA! :lol: Are you people actually seeing this? Best looking racing sim ever... Gameplay starts @ :40 seconds.
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#22 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="zeta"][QUOTE="racing1750"]Haters were silenced along time ago. FM4 is going to be, well look at the sig.racing1750
Your sig should really just say "The Definitive CONSOLE Racing Game is Back." As good as it looks (and it's very pleasing compared to GT5..or any other race sim I ever seen), I know that this game will not be as definitive as iRacing or rFactor (well, modified rFactor). I don't mean to sound elitist, but it's just the truth.

Forza 3 is the highest rated racing game on GS. higher than any PC racer, therefore my sig shall remain the same :D

And when did Gamespot become god? Nothing more than an opinion that fanboys use to somehow make their own opinions more meaningful.

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#23 markko84
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Great, great game. I wish turn 10/microsoft could release this game on PC....
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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="zeta"] Your sig should really just say "The Definitive CONSOLE Racing Game is Back." As good as it looks (and it's very pleasing compared to GT5..or any other race sim I ever seen), I know that this game will not be as definitive as iRacing or rFactor (well, modified rFactor). I don't mean to sound elitist, but it's just the truth. argetlam00

Forza 3 is the highest rated racing game on GS. higher than any PC racer, therefore my sig shall remain the same :D

And when did Gamespot become god? Nothing more than an opinion that fanboys use to somehow make their own opinions more meaningful.

We use GS score remember? You prefer PC sims, then fine but at the end of the day it's your opinion just like my sig represents my own opinion.
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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="zeta"] Your sig should really just say "The Definitive CONSOLE Racing Game is Back." As good as it looks (and it's very pleasing compared to GT5..or any other race sim I ever seen), I know that this game will not be as definitive as iRacing or rFactor (well, modified rFactor). I don't mean to sound elitist, but it's just the truth. argetlam00

Forza 3 is the highest rated racing game on GS. higher than any PC racer, therefore my sig shall remain the same :D

And when did Gamespot become god? Nothing more than an opinion that fanboys use to somehow make their own opinions more meaningful.

It has always been a rule of SW that we use GS Scores. Where have you been?
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#26 -RocBoys9489-
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I haven't been so happy about games in such a long time, I am blessed for the work Turn 10 has put into Forza 4 along with the many other games I plan on buying this fall.
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#27 zeta
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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="zeta"] Your sig should really just say "The Definitive CONSOLE Racing Game is Back." As good as it looks (and it's very pleasing compared to GT5..or any other race sim I ever seen), I know that this game will not be as definitive as iRacing or rFactor (well, modified rFactor). I don't mean to sound elitist, but it's just the truth. argetlam00

Forza 3 is the highest rated racing game on GS. higher than any PC racer, therefore my sig shall remain the same :D

And when did Gamespot become god? Nothing more than an opinion that fanboys use to somehow make their own opinions more meaningful.

See? I knew the response to this was going to be some lame rebuttal. Shame on me for believing otherwise. Funny, I didn't even say anything bad about FM considering I have all 3. It's a shame, really.
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#28 racing1750
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="racing1750"] Forza 3 is the highest rated racing game on GS. higher than any PC racer, therefore my sig shall remain the same :Dzeta

And when did Gamespot become god? Nothing more than an opinion that fanboys use to somehow make their own opinions more meaningful.

See? I knew the response to this was going to be some lame rebuttal. Shame on me for believing otherwise. Funny, I didn't even say anything bad about FM considering I have all 3. It's a shame, really.

My response is not *lame* It's fact that FM is the highest rated racer on GS... I don't care for PC sims so yeh...
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#29 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="racing1750"] Forza 3 is the highest rated racing game on GS. higher than any PC racer, therefore my sig shall remain the same :Dmadmidnight

And when did Gamespot become god? Nothing more than an opinion that fanboys use to somehow make their own opinions more meaningful.

It has always been a rule of SW that we use GS Scores. Where have you been?

And why do scores matter? I perfectly well know we use gamespot scores. Just never cared. They are worthless arbitrary numbers a game critic pulled out of his ass and slapped on. NOthing more.

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#30 MightyMuna
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not hating or anything like that, but honestly speaking, GT5 looks better than that.
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It´s incredible how Turn10 managed to double car polys while increasing the played cap from 8 to 16! Environments also seem very improved. Racing game of the generation no doubt 8)

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#32 Vadamee
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not hating or anything like that, but honestly speaking, GT5 looks better than that. MightyMuna
Might want to remove the fan boy goggles. FM3 looks as good as GT5 does in every respect... This just blows GT5 and FM3 to kingdom come.
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#33 PAL360
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not hating or anything like that, but honestly speaking, GT5 looks better than that. MightyMuna

Not at all. Also 16 premium cans on track all the time = Win :P

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As a PC gamer that don't own either xbox360 or ps3, there's no way GT5 looks better than FORZA 4.
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]Anyone who honestly believes the game can't look good just because is on the 360 clearly can't be reasoned with conventional logic. Here, I'll show you how it's done. Moooooooooo. There ya go guys.rumbalumba

oh, so you dont remember how in the past 2 Forza games on E3, they showed trailers on what is known to be Photomode and in reality does not look as good in gameplay/motion? HA. wehere were you the past 4 years? were you absent everytime the Forza demo comes out and fanboys would cry afould for leading them to believe the game looks as gorgeous as the trailers?

well, people really never learn.

good thing the gauges now work.

Well, if you look at the end of the video you see some in-car gameplay, and they look vastly improved from forza 3. It true that the cars arent going to look in real time as it is in autovista mode, but it still going to look way better then Forza, and by that trailer, GT5. T10 completely overhauled the graphics engine and whereas before in F3 they ued about 400,000 ploygons per car, now they will be using over 1 million.
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It´s incredible how Turn10 managed to double car polys while increasing the played cap from 8 to 16! Environments also seem very improved. Racing game of the generation no doubt 8)

PAL360
They must be at the point where it's getting really difficulty to squeeze more out this dated hardware, but they still keep getting more out the ol' box.
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Mariokart 64 > Forza + Gt. hehe
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[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]not hating or anything like that, but honestly speaking, GT5 looks better than that. PAL360

Not at all. Also 16 premium cans on track all the time = Win :P

Standard/premium cars division is the most stupid thing ever implemented in a racing game. Especially if you look at the car rooster and see that Veyron, Countach are standard and SUZUKI CAPUCCINO is premium.
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#39 racing1750
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As a PC gamer that don't own either xbox360 or ps3, there's no way GT5 looks better than FORZA 4.markko84
GT5 had great models, but mediocre surroundings. FM has always had both.
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#40 zeta
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My response is not *lame* It's fact that FM is the highest rated racer on GS... I don't care for PC sims so yeh...racing1750
The fact that you don't acknowledge PC sims, and more importantly, think that GS reviews are fact (lol), tell me that all you know....all you played is...and all you think is "real" is FM. Now that's the real shame.

this is the real and most extensive review to Forza:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VID_ndJJ3pI&feature=channel_video_title

and they even update their reviews later down the road!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeqqYxCCj_o&feature=channel_video_title

Yet, I know you won't watch this because apparently, GS is fact..

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#41 pl4yer_f0und
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[QUOTE="markko84"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

not hating or anything like that, but honestly speaking, GT5 looks better than that. MightyMuna

Not at all. Also 16 premium cans on track all the time = Win :P

Standard/premium cars division is the post stupid thing ever implemented in a racing game. Especially if you look at the car rooster and see that Veyron, Countach are standard and SUZUKI CAPUCCINO is premium.

Yeah even the frickin Prius is premium lol
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[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]not hating or anything like that, but honestly speaking, GT5 looks better than that. Vadamee
Might want to remove the fan boy goggles. FM3 looks as good as GT5 does in every respect... This just blows GT5 and FM3 to kingdom come.

no, it is you that needs to remove the fanboy goggles. for the fact that you said Forza 3 looks just as good as GT5, tells me where this argument is going to go, so I might as well leave this thread.
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#43 racing1750
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]not hating or anything like that, but honestly speaking, GT5 looks better than that. markko84

Not at all. Also 16 premium cans on track all the time = Win :P

Standard/premium cars division is the most stupid thing ever implemented in a racing game. Especially if you look at the car rooster and see that Veyron, Countach are standard and SUZUKI CAPUCCINO is premium.

I remember when we found out the Veyron was a standard and the god awful 09 Prius was a premium? Kaz should be shot in the leg to teach him a lesson.
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#44 James161324
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Dirt 3 on pc looks better

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#45 racing1750
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[QUOTE="Vadamee"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"]not hating or anything like that, but honestly speaking, GT5 looks better than that. MightyMuna
Might want to remove the fan boy goggles. FM3 looks as good as GT5 does in every respect... This just blows GT5 and FM3 to kingdom come.

no, it is you that needs to remove the fanboy goggles. for the fact that you said Forza 3 looks just as good as GT5, tells me where this argument is going to go, so I might as well leave this thread.

FM3 had better surrounding with great models with worse lighting, but FM3 was close on GT5's heels.
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#46 Vadamee
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[QUOTE="markko84"]As a PC gamer that don't own either xbox360 or ps3, there's no way GT5 looks better than FORZA 4.racing1750
GT5 had 200 great models, 800 crap models, and mediocre surroundings. FM has always had both.

Fixed. Lets be honest :) I was expecting a GT6 from Polyphony. They really need to redeem themselves.
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#47 Richymisiak
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Mariokart 64 > Forza + Gt. heheWithoutGraceXII
that's a funny way of writing crash team racing
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#48 racing1750
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Dirt 3 on pc looks better

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Well it would...because it's on PC :P
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#49 MobilechicaneX
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Dirt 3 on pc looks better

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And doesn't drive as well.

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#50 blues35301
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I wont play it unless it matches GT5's physics which are by far the best on consoles AND adds wheel support for third party wheels like the DFGT. MS needs to get their head out of their ass and do this already.