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#1 PSBox3SixWi
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Do you honestly believe that MGS is a BAD game? or do you thing that its at least a good game that you just dont care for, for any reason such as story, or gameplay etc.

for either opinion, could you explain why you feel this way?

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#2 Bloodseeker23
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they don't like sneaking games.
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#3 hairy_bubblegum
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Most are just jealous that MGS4 is exclusive to the PS3. They won't admit it, but deep inside, that's the real reason.
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#4 AgentA-Mi6
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Most are just jealous that MGS4 is exclusive to the PS3. They won't admit it, but deep inside, that's the real reason.hairy_bubblegum

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#5 TMontana1004
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Most are just jealous that MGS4 is exclusive to the PS3. They won't admit it, but deep inside, that's the real reason.hairy_bubblegum

...or we are just happy with our current library or just don't like stealth games.

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#6 Nedemis
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I personally don't like the game because the story is so far fetched it's beyond stupid and the gameplay bores me to death. The two key factors that determine whether or not I'll play (better yet, buy) are the two areas where the MGS franchise has failed IMHO since MGS on the PS1. MGS: TS is my favorite MGS of all time. :)
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#7 Nike_Air
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I don't like any action or a story in my sneaking games.

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#8 thrones
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[QUOTE="hairy_bubblegum"]Most are just jealous that MGS4 is exclusive to the PS3. They won't admit it, but deep inside, that's the real reason.AgentA-Mi6

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Though some may just not like Sneaking games or games with good story. Like the guy earlier that said the Halo story beat Metal Gear...hmm...

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#9 6matt6
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i love MGS ive just never been a fan of the shooting/action mechanics. too clunky to me.
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#10 Nedemis
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Most are just jealous that MGS4 is exclusive to the PS3. They won't admit it, but deep inside, that's the real reason.hairy_bubblegum

That's it...:roll: I'm so jealous that you have quite possibly one of the (if not the) most boring franchise EVER created as an exclusive. :lol:

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#11 potterpipi
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MGS ftw. Love the series.
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#12 thrones
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i love MGS ive just never been a fan of the shooting/action mechanics. too clunky to me.6matt6

There's a new one in MGS4 :D

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#13 theflash118
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I just don't like the fanboys of the series, the game will be good regardless of if you defend it or not.
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#14 6matt6
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[QUOTE="6matt6"]i love MGS ive just never been a fan of the shooting/action mechanics. too clunky to me.thrones

There's a new one in MGS4 :D

i decided to build a new rig instead of buying a ps3 so ill have to wait till christmas time to play MGS.

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#15 -GhostMLD-
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maybe its just not their genre of choice?
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#16 AC-360
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Let haters do their job...hate. We need them. It jus shows how great said product is.
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#17 bstarter29
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I just don't like the fanboys of the series, the game will be good regardless of if you defend it or not.theflash118

There's a big difference between true fans of the series and the MGS fanboys that plague most of the internet.

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#18 ekalbtwin
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I just have a hard time getting into the games. If you like stealth type games MGS is for you, but I tend to not play them too often.

I would not call myself a hater.

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#19 stiltzsy
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Hating on MGS4 is stupid. It's a quality game. Too bad it's not multiplat as it could have been enjoyed by more people.
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#20 HarryCrackage
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I'll admit that the games all are of a great quality, dripping with high production values, fan service, and innovative segments of gameplay. I just don't care for stealth games, the story is a bit "out there", and the cut scenes are too numerous and lengthy for my taste. I'm sure MGSIV will be a great game, even a system seller. It is not, however, a title I care too much about.
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#21 finalfantasy94
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To me MGS shines in all aspects. From gameplay to a great story. People who don't like it are people who don't like sneaking games.
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#22 donwoogie
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Do you honestly believe that MGS is a BAD game? or do you thing that its at least a good game that you just dont care for, for any reason such as story, or gameplay etc.

for either opinion, could you explain why you feel this way?

PSBox3SixWi

The Xbox crowd mostly seem to be of the opinion that the Splinter Cell series is better for stealth games.

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#23 waynehead895
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I acknowledge MGS as a great franchise that I can't get into for the life of me. And I've tried. Same with GTA. I feel it's too story driven for an action game. Too many pauses in between rather it be cutscene or the frequency talk thingamajig. And the action to me isn't much fun. I have no problem watching other ppl play it. But I'd rather not play it myself.
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#24 waynehead895
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Most are just jealous that MGS4 is exclusive to the PS3. They won't admit it, but deep inside, that's the real reason.hairy_bubblegum
Far from it guy.
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#25 Nedemis
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[QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"]

Do you honestly believe that MGS is a BAD game? or do you thing that its at least a good game that you just dont care for, for any reason such as story, or gameplay etc.

for either opinion, could you explain why you feel this way?

donwoogie

The Xbox crowd mostly seem to be of the opinion that the Splinter Cell series is better for stealth games.

I'd much rather play the Splinter Cell franchise simply because the stealth aspect feels more life like and I'm given the ability to go full out Rambo in the game as an alternative course of action. The story is much better IMO as well seeing how it's based more closely to real life possibilities as well.

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#26 waynehead895
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[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"]

Do you honestly believe that MGS is a BAD game? or do you thing that its at least a good game that you just dont care for, for any reason such as story, or gameplay etc.

for either opinion, could you explain why you feel this way?

Nedemis

The Xbox crowd mostly seem to be of the opinion that the Splinter Cell series is better for stealth games.

I'd much rather play the Splinter Cell franchise simply because the stealth aspect feels more life like and I'm given the ability to go full out Rambo in the game as an alternative course of action. The story is much better IMO as well seeing how it's based more closely to real life possibilities as well.

I feel the same way as far as gameplay goes. On the other hand, I really don't pay attention to which story is better.
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#27 the-obiwan
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=]

dont forget indiana jones ftw :D!

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#28 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"]

Do you honestly believe that MGS is a BAD game? or do you thing that its at least a good game that you just dont care for, for any reason such as story, or gameplay etc.

for either opinion, could you explain why you feel this way?

donwoogie

The Xbox crowd mostly seem to be of the opinion that the Splinter Cell series is better for stealth games.

Comparing SC and MGS is like comparing Burnout and Gran Turismo. They have nothing in common except you carry a gun. The MGS vs. SC thing may be my biggest pet peeve on this entire forum.

I like to gun down terrorists in SC.

I like to gun down robot ninjas, trick shooting cowboys, flying mindreaders and nuke powered walking tanks with missle arms in MGS.

Where is the similarity?

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#29 Funkyhamster
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In my experience, most people who legitimately dislike MGS just don't like the plot-driven, storyline-heavy nature of it...
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#30 darcom1
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i like MGS , Jesus likes MGS ....... how cares what lemmings like
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#31 the-obiwan
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i like MGS , Jesus likes MGS ....... how cares what lemmings likedarcom1

*slaps* dont mix this kind stuff with god stuff kthxbai x)

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#32 PSBox3SixWi
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ok so it looks like most people who dont like it prefer realism over sci-fi. fair enough.
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#33 butteater86
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I don't like games with good storys, so I don't like MGS. I prefer games like Ninja Gaiden.
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#34 kostmpekir
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Do you honestly believe that MGS is a BAD game? or do you thing that its at least a good game that you just dont care for, for any reason such as story, or gameplay et

for either opinion, could you explain why you feel this way?

PSBox3SixWi

No, the game is just mediocre looking in visuals for this gen, and is indifferent for anyone that is not in the boring gameplay of MGS series, that is all

I am sure some people like it, and FOR THEM it is fine, personally i would not touch it, at least by what i have seen for now, that is a boring colorless mediocre looking game

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#35 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"]

Do you honestly believe that MGS is a BAD game? or do you thing that its at least a good game that you just dont care for, for any reason such as story, or gameplay etc.

for either opinion, could you explain why you feel this way?

Nedemis

The Xbox crowd mostly seem to be of the opinion that the Splinter Cell series is better for stealth games.

I'd much rather play the Splinter Cell franchise simply because the stealth aspect feels more life like and I'm given the ability to go full out Rambo in the game as an alternative course of action. The story is much better IMO as well seeing how it's based more closely to real life possibilities as well.

IMHO the story in the SC games are boring. Its basically a tom clancly plot generator. Something with terrorist doing something bad may it be some chemical or bomb threat.

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#36 gtawoof
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People who'd played MGS know its not THAT much of a sneaking game, you can do it either way, its just you'll die more often if you do it Rambo style.

It's not like Splinter Cell where if you get caught you gotta start over, and stuff like that. (I love Splinter Cell though)

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#37 Quofan
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Do you honestly believe that MGS is a BAD game? or do you thing that its at least a good game that you just dont care for, for any reason such as story, or gameplay etc.

for either opinion, could you explain why you feel this way?

PSBox3SixWi

A few reasons.

1. Im just not into that kind of game. Too many games like that around these days, focusing on something "mature" and "realistic."

2. I just don't find any of the gameplay elements that appealing at all, or any of the characters.

3. I hate how it gets so much hype, yet it seems so mediocre. But that applies to a lot of things I don't like that are popular. I admit I am just totally bemused at the fact it gets so much hype, and how every time one comes out it gets hyped GOTY. None of them have had any hope of GOTY.

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#38 Palax
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Do you honestly believe that MGS is a BAD game? or do you thing that its at least a good game that you just dont care for, for any reason such as story, or gameplay etc.

for either opinion, could you explain why you feel this way?

PSBox3SixWi

MGS on PSX was one of the best games I ever played. It had creative characters, excellent story, and great gameplay.

MGS2 for the PS2 was a big step down IMO. It had the most un-original characters. Fat Man some tard that skates around and plants bombs while you go around freezing them before they can explode and Vamp kicks it up another notch, because hint : He's a vampire. Then you got Raiden who nobody really liked. That was a huge stepdown from Vulcan Raven, Sniper Wolf, Psycho Mantis, DeepThroat, Revolver Ocelot.

The story was good, but in MGS2 I fear that Kojima got a little out there with it. All in all though no complaints on the story, mostly just the unoriginal characters.

Gameplay in MGS2 was ok. They really should have added an option to be able to move while in a first person view. This made aiming very frustrating at times. Also the stealth elements stayed exactly the same from MGS1. Whenever you get detected you just run off screen then come back with no penalty. They really should have put more attention into the stealth element if they truly want to call this a stealth game.

In the end MGS2 was a pretty good game, but it had a few flaws, and the horrible characters left a bad taste in my mouth. I never played MGS3, but I really didn't have that much desire to play it after MGS2. I'm hoping MGS4 can get me back into the series, and well if not at least it will look really pretty :P

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#39 Quofan
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I just don't like the fanboys of the series, the game will be good regardless of if you defend it or not.theflash118

The hype it gets from MGS fanboys is the worst part for me. I could handle it if everyone was like "yeah, MGS, good game, you should try it". But no. The whole gaming world will end at the fourth coming of Jes....I mean, MGS..........

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#40 Palax
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[QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"]

Do you honestly believe that MGS is a BAD game? or do you thing that its at least a good game that you just dont care for, for any reason such as story, or gameplay etc.

for either opinion, could you explain why you feel this way?

donwoogie

The Xbox crowd mostly seem to be of the opinion that the Splinter Cell series is better for stealth games.

The first Splinter Cell I played did have much better stealth elements. That's a fact.

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#41 ogvampire
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not a mgs hater, just a disliker.

i played mgs1, it was ok. just not my cup of tea. i may rent MGS4, but thats as far as i would go

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#42 krakout31
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the people thant know there games and the mg series will love this game and those that dont will just have to suffer cos this game is gonna be amazing and if your a true mg fan like me then you will know were im comeing from let the fools play there toy games cos this is the real deal. the sales are gonna be through yhe roof.:)

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#43 the-obiwan
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[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"]

Do you honestly believe that MGS is a BAD game? or do you thing that its at least a good game that you just dont care for, for any reason such as story, or gameplay etc.

for either opinion, could you explain why you feel this way?

Palax

The Xbox crowd mostly seem to be of the opinion that the Splinter Cell series is better for stealth games.

The first Splinter Cell I played did have much better stealth elements. That's a fact.

hmm i liked alot splinter cell more than mgs i think =o , atleats more than the mgs2 that was crap xD.

Indiana jones ftw :D

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#44 ogvampire
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the people thant know there games and the mg series will love this game and those that dont will just have to suffer cos this game is gonna be amazing and if your a true mg fan like me then you will know were im comeing from let the fools play there toy games cos this is the real deal. the sales are gonna be through yhe roof.:)

krakout31

yeah, youre right. the difference is that people PLAY videogames, but you usually just WATCH MGS games. lol. j/k

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#45 aliasfreak
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To me MGS shines in all aspects. From gameplay to a great story. People who don't like it are people who don't like sneaking games.finalfantasy94

My gosh, why can't people like you just realize that your opinion isn't fact. I enjoy sneaking games but I was bored by MGS2. I didn't see what was so great about the story (maybe because I never played the first), but the gameplay just wasn't fun IMO.

Using your logic, I could say to everyone out there "People who don't like Halo 3 are people who don't like first-person shooters." Is that true though? Sure, for some, but not everyone.

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#46 Ragashahs
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most people either are jelous or they don't like it becuase they prefer other things. even if you don't prefer something i still don't think you should hate it. i don't prefer some (alot) of raceing games but i don't think they're bad
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#47 tonythestudent
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Most are just jealous that MGS4 is exclusive to the PS3. They won't admit it, but deep inside, that's the real reason.hairy_bubblegum

I agree.

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#48 mattbbpl
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I'm not a fan of "stealth" games although I do like stealth sequences in games (a la Deus Ex). I'm not even really sure why - they just bore me after so long.
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#49 shadow8585
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Its just not my style. I prefer more americanized games, Gears of War, Unreal Tournament, Halo, GTA etc...basically what Xbox offers
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#50 liberty71441
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i dont like borefest games thats all