To the people who say Crysis is rubbish...

To the people who say Crysis is rubbish....leave those people in their own delusional state. There's nothing to do about it, nothing to argue.curp11

To the people who say Crysis is great....leave those people in their own delusional state. There's nothing to do about it, nothing to argue.

See how that works?

[QUOTE="curp11"]To the people who say Crysis is rubbish....leave those people in their own delusional state. There's nothing to do about it, nothing to argue.whatisazerg

To the people who say Crysis is great....leave those people in their own delusional state. There's nothing to do about it, nothing to argue.

See how that works?

[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

[QUOTE="curp11"]To the people who say Crysis is rubbish....leave those people in their own delusional state. There's nothing to do about it, nothing to argue.AAllxxjjnn

To the people who say Crysis is great....leave those people in their own delusional state. There's nothing to do about it, nothing to argue.

See how that works?

Yeah.... just like GTAIV, right..... Professional Reviewers never get caught up in hype right..... need another example besides GTAIV...... okay..... IGN gave Jade Empire a 9.9..... LOL.... even the original reviewer admits to getting caught up in the hype for the game.

Reviewers are people..... people are flawed, just because many people believe something to be true, doesn't make it so..... there are so many examples of this throughout history..... EARTH IS FLAT?? WHAT? CIGARETTES ARE NOT HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH??? WHAT??? Just because you don't recognize Crysis's mediocrity, that doesn't mean its not there.

I was exaggerating before when I said it was crap...... it's not crap.... it's just not the 2nd coming of the FPS genre.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

To the people who say Crysis is great....leave those people in their own delusional state. There's nothing to do about it, nothing to argue.

See how that works?

whatisazerg

Yeah.... just like GTAIV, right..... Professional Reviewers never get caught up in hype right..... need another example besides GTAIV...... okay..... IGN gave Jade Empire a 9.9..... LOL.... even the original reviewer admits to getting caught up in the hype for the game.

Reviewers are people..... people are flawed, just because many people believe something to be true, doesn't make it so..... there are so many examples of this throughout history..... EARTH IS FLAT?? WHAT? CIGARETTES ARE NOT HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH??? WHAT??? Just because you don't recognize Crysis's mediocrity, that doesn't mean its not there.

I was exaggerating before when I said it was crap...... it's not crap.... it's just not the 2nd coming of the FPS genre.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

To the people who say Crysis is great....leave those people in their own delusional state. There's nothing to do about it, nothing to argue.

See how that works?

whatisazerg

Yeah.... just like GTAIV, right..... Professional Reviewers never get caught up in hype right..... need another example besides GTAIV...... okay..... IGN gave Jade Empire a 9.9..... LOL.... even the original reviewer admits to getting caught up in the hype for the game.

Reviewers are people..... people are flawed, just because many people believe something to be true, doesn't make it so..... there are so many examples of this throughout history..... EARTH IS FLAT?? WHAT? CIGARETTES ARE NOT HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH??? WHAT??? Just because you don't recognize Crysis's mediocrity, that doesn't mean its not there.

I was exaggerating before when I said it was crap...... it's not crap.... it's just not the 2nd coming of the FPS genre.

[QUOTE="-keola-"]

First off i'm going to say the obvious, which still seems to slip the minds of most people in this forum, everything that has been said about this game is opinion not fact. If you have something to say about the game you should use IMO(In My Opinion for the dense) and not act like what you say is fact or a majority rule or something of that ignorance.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

This is the third time I have said this.

Criticising Crysis doesn't mean jack if you don't justify your criticism.

I swear, the number of people who have jumped in this thread just to take a jab at the game; but made no attempt to explain why they think what they do.

DragonfireXZ95

AnnoyedDragon, typically I would be right there with you but I find it difficult to truly explain why I didn't like the game, maybe i'm just not that smart I don't know but I have a proposition for you and others who found crysis to be good or great.

I want to ask something of those who like Crysis to play the Devil's Advocate and say why they didn't like the game.

To say the game is terrible/rubbish is just dumb, I found Crysis to be ok to mediocre, why? I will try my best to explain but without any factual evidence of flaws but just to rely on opinion I will have do my best game comparison.

I would like to mention that I did enjoy COD4 more than Crysis, does that mean I prefer games that are linear, shallow flashy games without substance? NO! in fact I love open sandbox games for example Operation Flashpoint and Armed Assault are some of my favorite types of games. As a closing to COD4, the guns and the feel of the game are a big factor into what makes a good game IMO, the guns felt like they had more of an impact and the fact they are more relatable having used and M16, M4 and an AK-47, the Crysis guns seems had a fake feel to them IMO. I'm not bringing realism into account just what brings more enjoyment for me out of a game.

Crysis on paper sounds like a great game with it's graphics, physics, open design and variety I can definitely see why many people enjoy it, with that in mind the game still just hasn't caught on for me, the story doesn't grab me and i'm usually quite easy with the "aliens are invading the earth" scenario that has been done to death. Like I said the guns just don't do it for me even with the variety, I did enjoy the suit's abilities especially the stealth mode but it wasn't enough to make the game great.

As said earlier a game I feel comparable is OFP and Arma, I will use Arma as an example as it is more recent. Arma is even more open ended than Crysis as Crysis has it's barriers where as Arma goes on for miles. The difficulty and realism I really enjoy out of this game and with yet again guns that are relatable and have more of an impact IMO. Co-op missions are a huge plus for me, I may have enjoyed Crysis more with Co-op. The Vehicles land, sea and air and the mission editor which is quick and easy to make fun missions to share with friends all come to a greater enjoyment despite the flaws Arma had.

I enjoy hardcore games to arcadey, open ended games to linear so using that argument against me won't work, maybe Crysis struck and uncomfortable/awkward balance between the two? Hard to say really, in conclusion it really all just comes down to taste and it's almost as hard as trying to say why you don't like a certain food type other than the way it tastes.

I could have made this as short as my conclusion but with the demand of a good description I felt I should rise up to the challenge, hopefully I didn't fail. :P

Sounds to me like you only like things to be realistic to you; to be able to happen in real life. You prefer realistic guns and realistic scenarios.

But saying that, you should look at the Call of Duty series and say, why does my health regenerate? Am I a super soldier? There's no explanation. :cry:

There's the flip side of this fence. I thought CoD4 had rubbish single player. Why can't I jump over these fences? Why do soldiers never stop coming from out of that wall even though I've killed a thousand of them? Why do grenades always land 6 inches from my feet? Why does the enemy always know where I am? This is just a simple shooter with a very linear presentation. There's nothing that sticks out, in fact I'd say it's call of duty 2 with a new paint job.

My standards have grown though, I've been playing these types of linear shooters forever, so maybe I've just outgrown them. I needed something fresh, something I could play around with and do my own thing. Rather then what the millions of gamers across America are doing in the same game. Crysis brought that to me, it delivered on all fronts(except for the story, but I don't play video games for the story, since most of them lack a decent one anyway - this includes pretty much every FPS ever made.)

I agree that it is refreshing the way Crysis not only has extremely impressive graphics but also has free-roaming gameplay over huge areas. The way I see it though, things like story and original concepts do also add a lot to games, Bioshock being a good example, but of course the 360 doesn't have the horse power to do something as technically impressive as Crysis. Not that I'm saying Bioshock is better than Crysis or vice versa.

It is a superb game but it didn't push or change the genre forward like some people like to claim in SW. It's not overated but it's not the new Doom, Quake or Half-Life either.

It's like Halo 3 or Killzone 2. An amazing game but nothing really new.

Yeah.... just like GTAIV, right..... Professional Reviewers never get caught up in hype right..... need another example besides GTAIV...... okay..... IGN gave Jade Empire a 9.9..... LOL.... even the original reviewer admits to getting caught up in the hype for the game.

Reviewers are people..... people are flawed, just because many people believe something to be true, doesn't make it so..... there are so many examples of this throughout history..... EARTH IS FLAT?? WHAT? CIGARETTES ARE NOT HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH??? WHAT??? Just because you don't recognize Crysis's mediocrity, that doesn't mean its not there.

I was exaggerating before when I said it was crap...... it's not crap.... it's just not the 2nd coming of the FPS genre.

whatisazerg

"Oh wow see that branch fall off the tree..... HOLY **** that was so realistic dude""OMG pick up that turtle and throw it..... WHhhheeewwww, turtle tossing is da best" and I love how everyone tries to say how "THE GAME IS FULLY DESTRUCTIBLE"when in reality less than 15% of stuff can actually be destroyed."

Your "criticisms" are pathetic.

And honestly, that shows the amount of experience you have with the game is probably from just watching a couple gameplay videos. You haven't explained it's gunplay, AI, design, none of that. You end up just posting worse than a Kayne West blog.

If you actually played the game, I think you'd know that Crysis is a lot more than just destruction. Hell where did you get the idea that the game was supposed to be realistic when you're wearing a suit that gives you enhanced features?

PS: Jade Empire didn't get a 9.9 because of the reviewer fell into the hype, this is the reason:

"While it's apparently quite easy for a good RPG to turn the heads of our console editors and leave them gasping for superlatives, the fact is that the RPG market on the PC is considerably more competitive. Add in the fact that Jade Empire is nearly two years old and it's not hard to understand that the PC version isn't quite the revelation that it was on the Xbox."

From the PC review of Jade Empire

i agree that the game is awesome

[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

Yeah.... just like GTAIV, right..... Professional Reviewers never get caught up in hype right..... need another example besides GTAIV...... okay..... IGN gave Jade Empire a 9.9..... LOL.... even the original reviewer admits to getting caught up in the hype for the game.

Reviewers are people..... people are flawed, just because many people believe something to be true, doesn't make it so..... there are so many examples of this throughout history..... EARTH IS FLAT?? WHAT? CIGARETTES ARE NOT HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH??? WHAT??? Just because you don't recognize Crysis's mediocrity, that doesn't mean its not there.

I was exaggerating before when I said it was crap...... it's not crap.... it's just not the 2nd coming of the FPS genre.

Kicker_of_Cans

"Oh wow see that branch fall off the tree..... HOLY **** that was so realistic dude""OMG pick up that turtle and throw it..... WHhhheeewwww, turtle tossing is da best" and I love how everyone tries to say how "THE GAME IS FULLY DESTRUCTIBLE"when in reality less than 15% of stuff can actually be destroyed."

Your "criticisms" are pathetic.

And honestly, that shows the amount of experience you have with the game is probably from just watching a couple gameplay videos. You haven't explained it's gunplay, AI, design, none of that. You end up just posting worse than a Kayne West blog.

If you actually played the game, I think you'd know that Crysis is a lot more than just destruction. Hell where did you get the idea that the game was supposed to be realistic when you're wearing a suit that gives you enhanced features?

PS: Jade Empire didn't get a 9.9 because of the reviewer fell into the hype, this is the reason:

"While it's apparently quite easy for a good RPG to turn the heads of our console editors and leave them gasping for superlatives, the fact is that the RPG market on the PC is considerably more competitive. Add in the fact that Jade Empire is nearly two years old and it's not hard to understand that the PC version isn't quite the revelation that it was on the Xbox."

From the PC review of Jade Empire

Yes it did... sorry but you're wrong. Hilary Goldstein of IGN wrote the review... and his work companions drilled him on it, during one of their podcasts.... Hilary, the reviewer had nothing to say, but "Yeah yeah, I know...."

It's a rare case that a reviewer would ever admit this..... since their jobs depend on them being believed by the gaming public to be objectionable and immune to the HYPE MACHINE!.....

However they, like us, are human and get taken in by marketing and hype.....

PS. The PC version had a different reviewer than the XBOX version, of course.... and did you really expect the PC reviewer to say "What was the lead reviewer for XBOX smoking, when he gave this game a 9.9"?

Cmon dude, get your head outta the clouds.

Another gripe I have with Crysis is the sound. There is very little 'oomph' to it. The explosions, the gunshot reports...all of it just sounds smaller than it should. For instance, if you're in an area where no enemies are yelling or shooting at you, and a gunship comes in and starts firing its minigun at you, listen to the sound of the bullets hitting the ground. It is this cutesy 'tickitytickitytickitytickity' sound that doesn't sound threatening at all. The explosions also don't sound that fantastic, especially when that universal hit sound (a loud 'THIP') is always able to mask a good part of it. These are just minor gripes, but things like this were able to add up until I could not see why it was being called the holy grail of PC gaming.

Verge_6

Actually, that was my gripe too. My biggest problem with Crysis is the sound effects.

Second to that is probably the extremely unballanced turret AI.

It's the same people who haven't touch the game in their life and don't have a decent PC to run it and jealousy that,they don't get to play the game that scored 9.5.McdonaIdsGuy

Funny.... my Quad Core Q6600, 3gigs of RAM and8800GT 512MB (moderate vid card, capable of playing on HIGH) say you're wrong.... and I did play the game, got as far as the Aircraft Carrier.... and getting that far felt like a chore. Sadly I will play mediocre games with nice visuals if I'm bored enough.

[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

Yes it did... sorry but you're wrong. Hilary Goldstein of IGN wrote the review... and his work companions drilled him on it, during one of their podcasts.... Hilary, the reviewer had nothing to say, but "Yeah yeah, I know...."

It's a rare case that a reviewer would ever admit this..... since their jobs depend on them being believed by the gaming public to be objectionable and immune to the HYPE MACHINE!.....

However they, like us, are human and get taken in by marketing and hype.....

PS. The PC version had a different reviewer than the XBOX version, of course.... and did you really expect the PC reviewer to say "What was the lead reviewer for XBOX smoking, when he gave this game a 9.9"?

Cmon dude, get your head outta the clouds.

Kicker_of_Cans

Of course the PC reviewer was different, and I decide why you pick IGN when there were other sites that gave it perfect scores and have not turned back on those scores either? Were all of them driven by hype or maybe they may have just really liked the game?

Hell when I played GTA4 I looked past the hype and marketing and it was best game I played in 2008. Not everyone is driven by hype like you say they are. You're just using it as a scapegoat because you look like an idiot when criticizing Crysis.

And I quote "It's a strange thing to consider, but I believe David Clayman may have underrated Jade Empire at a 9.9"Hilary Goldstein

So David wrote the main review.... sure seems like Hilary gave it the same... but really what does his name even matter... he is a "pro" reviewer and he admits that he was caught up in the hype.... focus on my mistake about who wrote the main review, it will allow you to avoid the real issue.

It's better than any console shooter I've played.

[QUOTE="Kicker_of_Cans"]

[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

Yes it did... sorry but you're wrong. Hilary Goldstein of IGN wrote the review... and his work companions drilled him on it, during one of their podcasts.... Hilary, the reviewer had nothing to say, but "Yeah yeah, I know...."

It's a rare case that a reviewer would ever admit this..... since their jobs depend on them being believed by the gaming public to be objectionable and immune to the HYPE MACHINE!.....

However they, like us, are human and get taken in by marketing and hype.....

PS. The PC version had a different reviewer than the XBOX version, of course.... and did you really expect the PC reviewer to say "What was the lead reviewer for XBOX smoking, when he gave this game a 9.9"?

Cmon dude, get your head outta the clouds.

whatisazerg

Of course the PC reviewer was different, and I decide why you pick IGN when there were other sites that gave it perfect scores and have not turned back on those scores either? Were all of them driven by hype or maybe they may have just really liked the game?

Hell when I played GTA4 I looked past the hype and marketing and it was best game I played in 2008. Not everyone is driven by hype like you say they are. You're just using it as a scapegoat because you look like an idiot when criticizing Crysis.

And I quote "It's a strange thing to consider, but I believe David Clayman may have underrated Jade Empire at a 9.9"Hilary Goldstein

So David wrote the main review.... sure seems like Hilary gave it the same... but really what does his name even matter... he is a "pro" reviewer and he admits that he was caught up in the hype.... focus on my mistake about who wrote the main review, it will allow you to avoid the real issue.

[QUOTE="muzik_mafia"]

Crysis... to me... is PC.

The greatest gunplay ever, brilliant design, huge replay value... and some cool characters (Psycho!)

Every level brought something new to the table, or was simply brilliant. Alot like Halo CE, my other favourite game of all time.

*Extended rant*

Contact- That ridiculously awesome Vista section, cruisin' the beach, very well placed

Second level- Epic.Village.Tank.Battle.

Relic- Italian Job-esque race with like six legs of the race

Assault- Team battles, the bridge

Onslaught- Tanks!!!! Lots of tanks!!!

Sixth Level- The strip mine, Kyong

Core- Zero G, worst level

Paradise Lost- Continual tension...

Exodus- My fave level. The entire thing, every section, was brilliant.The Hunter...

Ascension- Too short to be called a level. 1: 28 completion time.

Last level- Like Exodus, simply brilliant.

Crysis, Genius.

hellsyeahaha

Because, it boils down to their subjective views I suppose. People like to have a set experience, that is delivered to them in one particular way, a cinematic, tightly scripted, action packed experience at a high level of quality - its no surprise this style of design is more popular... even if its a very recessive example of design(tbh).skrat_01

Which is actually quite depressing, game trends are moving to more open; but gamers minds are still locked into closed experiences.

Games are not films, they are interactive entertainment, they should be progressing to more interactivity and choice; not a more structured experience like a film script. I want games to challenge me, I want them to require I put something of myself into the experience, easily digestible bland muck is boring.

Crysis gave you a set of powers and customizable weapons to apply in a highly interactive sandbox environment, it was up to you to decide how to utilize these tools to the best affect based on your own personal tastes. I'll take that over some scripted corridor shooter any day, Crysis makes me think strategically which stops me from getting bored like every other cut and paste run and gun out there.

People who call the game boring just sound like they need to be spoon fed their experience.

graphics amazing gameplay not so much. not by any means bad but in terms of gamepaly i would much rather play halo 3, KZ2, gears, cod4, resistance and a number of other shooters

How about reading the review? It pretty much lays out WHY it was given the score it was given. You're still not telling me what makes it an average FPS.AAllxxjjnn

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If someone feels Crysis is mediocre, there's nothing you can do other than believe they are wrong. Your belief does not create reality, nor does it give you the ability to change someone else's taste in games.

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For what it's worth, the modern FPS game is really about multiplayer - that's where the hours get logged, and the "omg we sold 5 million copies of this game" type thing comes from. Games like CoD4, Halo 3, and TF2 have had a broader reach this generation than Crysis is capable of... so if your stance is "popularity makes right" - you're fighting a losing battle.

...you clearly have not played it. Because I just did, and its ****ing awesome.

dommeus

[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]It's the same people who haven't touch the game in their life and don't have a decent PC to run it and jealousy that,they don't get to play the game that scored 9.5.whatisazerg

Funny.... my Quad Core Q6600, 3gigs of RAM and8800GT 512MB (moderate vid card, capable of playing on HIGH) say you're wrong.... and I did play the game, got as far as the Aircraft Carrier.... and getting that far felt like a chore. Sadly I will play mediocre games with nice visuals if I'm bored enough.

i certainly don't think its rubbish. however, i think, gameplay-wise, its very run-of-the-mill FPS. now, that is certainly no insult. what it does, it does very well. however, i just think the FPS genre in general has become very stale. that being said, crysis is fantastic, and i say that not even being a PC gamer.clone01

Run of the mill suggests many other examples offering the same/similar experience, care to name some?

[QUOTE="clone01"]i certainly don't think its rubbish. however, i think, gameplay-wise, its very run-of-the-mill FPS. now, that is certainly no insult. what it does, it does very well. however, i just think the FPS genre in general has become very stale. that being said, crysis is fantastic, and i say that not even being a PC gamer.AnnoyedDragon

Run of the mill suggests many other examples offering the same/similar experience, care to name some?

...you clearly have not played it. Because I just did, and its ****ing awesome.

dommeus

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] How about reading the review? It pretty much lays out WHY it was given the score it was given. You're still not telling me what makes it an average FPS.subrosian

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If someone feels Crysis is mediocre, there's nothing you can do other than believe they are wrong. Your belief does not create reality, nor does it give you the ability to change someone else's taste in games.

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For what it's worth, the modern FPS game is really about multiplayer - that's where the hours get logged, and the "omg we sold 5 million copies of this game" type thing comes from. Games like CoD4, Halo 3, and TF2 have had a broader reach this generation than Crysis is capable of... so if your stance is "popularity makes right" - you're fighting a losing battle.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="clone01"]i certainly don't think its rubbish. however, i think, gameplay-wise, its very run-of-the-mill FPS. now, that is certainly no insult. what it does, it does very well. however, i just think the FPS genre in general has become very stale. that being said, crysis is fantastic, and i say that not even being a PC gamer.anshul89

Run of the mill suggests many other examples offering the same/similar experience, care to name some?

exactly. i know its just my opinion, and whatever the individual wants to play, that's great. i've played Crysis on a friends rig, and i just don't really think its all that amazing. i feel the same way about KZ2. just my opinion.clone01

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] How about reading the review? It pretty much lays out WHY it was given the score it was given. You're still not telling me what makes it an average FPS.subrosian

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If someone feels Crysis is mediocre, there's nothing you can do other than believe they are wrong. Your belief does not create reality, nor does it give you the ability to change someone else's taste in games.

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For what it's worth, the modern FPS game is really about multiplayer - that's where the hours get logged, and the "omg we sold 5 million copies of this game" type thing comes from. Games like CoD4, Halo 3, and TF2 have had a broader reach this generation than Crysis is capable of... so if your stance is "popularity makes right" - you're fighting a losing battle.

[QUOTE="clone01"] exactly. i know its just my opinion, and whatever the individual wants to play, that's great. i've played Crysis on a friends rig, and i just don't really think its all that amazing. i feel the same way about KZ2. just my opinion.anshul89

...you clearly have not played it. Because I just did, and its ****ing awesome.

dommeus

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="anshul89"]

the conduit.

AnnoyedDragon

I didn't respond to that conduit comment because it was too silly to be serious, but you're actually agreeing with it?

I asked you to present examples that show Crysis like games are so common they're generic and you point this this joke? I'm trying to look for reasons to not label you people biased hateboys with no relevant argument, stop supporting that initial impression.

Answer my previous question and answer seriously this time, what games duplicate a Crysis experience to the point that it can be labelled generic?

sig worthy :lol:

anshul89

How about reading the review? It pretty much lays out WHY it was given the score it was given. You're still not telling me what makes it an average FPS.AAllxxjjnn

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If someone feels Crysis is mediocre, there's nothing you can do other than believe they are wrong. Your belief does not create reality, nor does it give you the ability to change someone else's taste in games.

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For what it's worth, the modern FPS game is really about multiplayer - that's where the hours get logged, and the "omg we sold 5 million copies of this game" type thing comes from. Games like CoD4, Halo 3, and TF2 have had a broader reach this generation than Crysis is capable of... so if your stance is "popularity makes right" - you're fighting a losing battle.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] exactly. i know its just my opinion, and whatever the individual wants to play, that's great. i've played Crysis on a friends rig, and i just don't really think its all that amazing. i feel the same way about KZ2. just my opinion.clone01

I didn't respond to that conduit comment because it was too silly to be serious, but you're actually agreeing with it?

I asked you to present examples that show Crysis like games are so common they're generic and you point this this joke? I'm trying to look for reasons to not label you people biased hateboys with no relevant argument, stop supporting that initial impression.

Answer my previous question and answer seriously this time, what games duplicate a Crysis experience to the point that it can be labelled generic?

Crysis is nothing like Bioshock, Bioshock's gameplay (and gunplay) was actually pretty bad. The game was also linear as hell. Also, all those powers were pretty much irrelevant in term of gameplay, it really didn't matter which power you used, the combat was essentially the same. Still, all this didn't really matter for Bioshock, because it had an absolutely amazing and griping story, and that was the main point of the game.

huh? how does the "hypnotize big daddy" plasmid play identically to the "telekinesis" plasmid? i'm confused.

[QUOTE="clone01"]look, i'm not trying to start a fight here.AnnoyedDragon

Well I am, look at it from my perspective.

People who clearly don't understand what exactly Crysis is are lining up to come into threads like this and tell everyone how "run of the mill" it is, even people who seem to have never actually played it. People who love titles like generic WW2 scripted corridor shooter X are saying the game is boring and unimpressive, then hide behind their opinion/preference like it is some sort of bullet proof vest against reasonable discussion.

I have repeatedly asked people to explain why they think XYZ about Crysis, I have asked them to provide better examples of areas of Crysis they have criticised and I have asked them to provide other examples to show why Crysis is generic. Why can I not get a straight answer out of anyone? I am asking simple questions here, questions people who apparently knew enough about Crysis to call it generic seem incapable of answering.

I recognise there are those who just prefer a scripted experience; but when I look at most of these responses I see consolites jumping in here to take a jab at the game then running off.

I cannot differentiate between the honest opinions and the idiots because they sound the same, when I see anyone call the game run of mill I ask they justify what they said with evidence so I know they are not some biased idiot. Generic is not something that falls under opinion, it is something you prove by showing how common and over used it is in other games.

If you honestly think if you stripped away the graphics you would get something like the Conduit or KZ2; you are in no position to criticise the game because you know nothing about it. Yet despite not actually understanding what sets Crysis apart; you still feel the need to say.

i certainly don't think its rubbish. however, i think, gameplay-wise, its very run-of-the-mill FPS. clone01

[QUOTE="clone01"]look, i'm not trying to start a fight here.AnnoyedDragon

Well I am, look at it from my perspective.

People who clearly don't understand what exactly Crysis is are lining up to come into threads like this and tell everyone how "run of the mill" it is, even people who seem to have never actually played it. People who love titles like generic WW2 scripted corridor shooter X are saying the game is boring and unimpressive, then hide behind their opinion/preference like it is some sort of bullet proof vest against reasonable discussion.

I have repeatedly asked people to explain why they think XYZ about Crysis, I have asked them to provide better examples of areas of Crysis they have criticised and I have asked them to provide other examples to show why Crysis is generic. Why can I not get a straight answer out of anyone? I am asking simple questions here, questions people who apparently knew enough about Crysis to call it generic seem incapable of answering.

I recognise there are those who just prefer a scripted experience; but when I look at most of these responses I see consolites jumping in here to take a jab at the game then running off.

I cannot differentiate between the honest opinions and the idiots because they sound the same, when I see anyone call the game run of mill I ask they justify what they said with evidence so I know they are not some biased idiot. Generic is not something that falls under opinion, it is something you prove by showing how common and over used it is in other games.

If you honestly think if you stripped away the graphics you would get something like the Conduit or KZ2; you are in no position to criticise the game because you know nothing about it. Yet despite not actually understanding what sets Crysis apart; you still feel the need to say.

i certainly don't think its rubbish. however, i think, gameplay-wise, its very run-of-the-mill FPS. clone01

[QUOTE="clone01"] exactly. i know its just my opinion, and whatever the individual wants to play, that's great. i've played Crysis on a friends rig, and i just don't really think its all that amazing. i feel the same way about KZ2. just my opinion.anshul89

It's sig worthy that people can have a different opinion? A differnt taste in games.

Fail.

crysis is only good for graphics, everything else is better in other games e.g. killzone 2

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