To the people who say Crysis is rubbish...

so i am not entitled to my opinion? i think its a pretty standard FPS. that's not to say its not a good game, but i don't feel that it is the be all, end all title that many say. and, sorry to tell, you, the way you have been speaking to me has come across as extremely condescending and demeaning. i would work on that in the future. this is a subjective topic, and anyone's opinions are valid here.clone01

There is nothing subjective about it, you keep calling it generic and when I ask you to name the games that offer the same experience you fail to do so. Generic/run of the mill suggests it has been done many times before and is nothing special, where are these examples? Stop using "opinion" as a substitute for lack of examples, it doesn't excuse you for not justifying what you said.

And if I seem offensive it is because I am getting tired of baseless criticisms of Crysis, most of which are most likely coming from people who are only criticising Crysis because it is a high profile game on a "enemy" platform. Many people just like you have come in here, made a questionable criticism of Crysis, but then failed/refused to explain/justify their criticism, that is irritating.

[QUOTE="clone01"] so i am not entitled to my opinion? i think its a pretty standard FPS. that's not to say its not a good game, but i don't feel that it is the be all, end all title that many say. and, sorry to tell, you, the way you have been speaking to me has come across as extremely condescending and demeaning. i would work on that in the future. this is a subjective topic, and anyone's opinions are valid here.AnnoyedDragon

There is nothing subjective about it, you keep calling it generic and when I ask you to name the games that offer the same experience you fail to do so. Generic/run of the mill suggests it has been done many times before and is nothing special, where are these examples? Stop using "opinion" as a substitute for lack of examples, it doesn't excuse you for not justifying what you said.

And if I seem offensive it is because I am getting tired of baseless criticisms of Crysis, most of which are most likely coming from people who are only criticising Crysis because it is a high profile game on a "enemy" platform. Many people just like you have come in here, made a questionable criticism of Crysis, but then failed/refused to explain/justify their criticism, that is irritating.

Yes, somewhat true.

But i did not and will not give it a 9, it is a 8.

Graphics are cool, but look bad after a awhile. Making you look back at console graphics as crap.

We have alot to go still.

Looks like a good game, but not a chance in hell my PC would ever play it.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="subrosian"] Reviews are just someone else's opinion - all you're doing is saying "look at someone else's opinions - that PROVES Crysis is a good game.". No, it doesn't - it just shows that someone else shares your perspective. If ten million people believe the earth is flat, that doesn't make it true, it just makes it a popular belief.

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If someone feels Crysis is mediocre, there's nothing you can do other than believe they are wrong. Your belief does not create reality, nor does it give you the ability to change someone else's taste in games.

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For what it's worth, the modern FPS game is really about multiplayer - that's where the hours get logged, and the "omg we sold 5 million copies of this game" type thing comes from. Games like CoD4, Halo 3, and TF2 have had a broader reach this generation than Crysis is capable of... so if your stance is "popularity makes right" - you're fighting a losing battle.

subrosian

that's fine. please have a laugh at my expense. now, on to the core question. why do i think crysis is generic, like the conduit? please keep in mind that i have fairly limited experience with the title. futuristic fps - okay, KZ2, Halo series, Doom series, on and on. non linear - well, that's not bad, but far cry did it, too. nanosuit capabilities - been done with bioshock like i said, i just don't find it all that fantastic. look, i'm not trying to start a fight here, i'm just providing my opinion.clone01

Eh?

Crysis is enhancing Far Cry's design, yes, its the spritual successor to the game. However its not why Crysis's design is highly progressive.

Bioshocks plasmids functioned and operated in a very different manner to the Nanosuit. Another thing is the Plasmids would be modified in an RPG like progression letting the player focus their game play into a particular style as they progressed. Now jeez, System Shock 2 and Deus Ex did this many years ago. Crysis does things very differently to both, and the environment of the gamespace enhances it further than these others - I already posted on this a few pages back, on the games design.

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[QUOTE="clone01"] exactly. i know its just my opinion, and whatever the individual wants to play, that's great. i've played Crysis on a friends rig, and i just don't really think its all that amazing. i feel the same way about KZ2. just my opinion.FamiBox

It's sig worthy that people can have a different opinion? A differnt taste in games.

Fail.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] exactly. i know its just my opinion, and whatever the individual wants to play, that's great. i've played Crysis on a friends rig, and i just don't really think its all that amazing. i feel the same way about KZ2. just my opinion.clone01

I didn't respond to that conduit comment because it was too silly to be serious, but you're actually agreeing with it?

I asked you to present examples that show Crysis like games are so common they're generic and you point this this joke? I'm trying to look for reasons to not label you people biased hateboys with no relevant argument, stop supporting that initial impression.

Answer my previous question and answer seriously this time, what games duplicate a Crysis experience to the point that it can be labelled generic?

[QUOTE="clone01"] that's fine. please have a laugh at my expense. now, on to the core question. why do i think crysis is generic, like the conduit? please keep in mind that i have fairly limited experience with the title. futuristic fps - okay, KZ2, Halo series, Doom series, on and on. non linear - well, that's not bad, but far cry did it, too. nanosuit capabilities - been done with bioshock like i said, i just don't find it all that fantastic. look, i'm not trying to start a fight here, i'm just providing my opinion.skrat_01

Eh?

Crysis is enhancing Far Cry's design, yes, its the spritual successor to the game. However its not why Crysis's design is highly progressive.

Bioshocks plasmids functioned and operated in a very different manner to the Nanosuit. Another thing is the Plasmids would be modified in an RPG like progression letting the player focus their game play into a particular style as they progressed. Now jeez, System Shock 2 and Deus Ex did this many years ago. Crysis does things very differently to both, and the environment of the gamespace enhances it further than these others - I already posted on this a few pages back, on the games design.

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]No I have not played Crysis nor do I think it is rubbish.siLVURcross

Oh my.... you poor poor soul.... playing through X-2..... ugh, I wouldnt wish that kind of morbid punishment on Satan himself.

i referenced several games in a previous post that crysis borrows from. again, your tone is extremely condescending. also, everything we are discussing is opinion, so what are your basing your argument on?clone01

"I don't like Crysis" is a opinion.

"I found Crysis boring" is a opinion.

"I prefer more scripted games" is a opinion.

"Crysis is run of the mill" is a claim, a matter of fact statement, not a preference or opinion. You are hiding behind your opinion like it's a shield that protects you from giving a explanation, that claim being Crysis is nothing special and there are loads of examples of other games offering the same.

If those are your examples then it just further convinces me you don't know what Crysis is about. Crysis is a Sci-Fi FPS so you say Halo/KZ2 did it, Crysis has a none linear approach so you say Far Cry 2 did it, Crysis has nano suit powers so you say a game that has powers like Bioshock did it. You cannot call a game generic just because it uses a Sci-Fi theme, you cannot call it generic because a game from the same creators that this is a spiritual successor to is like it, you cannot... why are you even comparing it to Bioshock?

Is it any wonder I struggle to speak with such people on respectable terms? All I see is a bunch of insecure consolites taking turns to stab at the game with a few genuine opinions thrown in the mess. Me and others are expected to accept this idea that Crysis is generic, but whenever we ask that people explain this they either give poor explanations that prove they are inexperienced with the game or put up a opinion brick wall.

If you really have played Crysis then you should have a idea of what is does, either give me examples of why the game is run or the mill or stick to only expressing a opinions in the future.

I can't help but chuckle at people who try to compare linear, limited, generic First Person Shooters like Killzone 2, to Crysis.

I think it's also safe to say that 90% of the people who hate on the game, are either consolites or don't have a rig capable of running it very well.

Comparing the two games is literally like comparing a high-end gaming PC to a console... i.e. ridiculously laughable :)

I can't help but chuckle at people who try to compare linear, limited, generic First Person Shooters like Killzone 2, to Crysis.

I think it's also safe to say that 90% of the people who hate on the game, are either consolites or don't have a rig capable of running it very well.

Comparing the two games is literally like comparing a high-end gaming PC to a console... i.e. ridiculously laughable :)

raynimrod

(chuckles)

You are a funny guy.

crysis = good for only graphics. 9.5/10 yeah right gamespot. r_gam3

i wouldnt call crysis rubbish, but i think it is highly overrated due to its graphics. i mean, when i played crysis, the only suit power i used was the stealth, the rest were worthless unless i felt like messing around. as far as multiple paths in the game go, you really didnt have much open endedness to the game, you still have to get to the same spot, but going over the hill in the back instead of going in the front door is not what i call open endedness, especially if you end up fighting every single person in there anyway.As far as weapon customization goes, its a nice concept, but besides throwing a scope on any weapons i picked up, i never used it.mtradr43

Only using the stealth power and not using weapon customization are choices *YOU* and you alone made, the game didn't force you to play that way. If you decided you wanted to play Crysis like you play every other shooter, that's fine but that was your choice. I really hate it when people say Crysis has average gameplay, the truth is the game is as average as you make it to be! Grow some creativity and you'll enjoy the game alot more.

Regarding open-endness, of course Crysis is not fully open-ended in the sense of Oblivion, it is pretty much an objective-based the game, you are supposed to follow certain objectives in order. But it is completely non-linear in the sense that you and you alone decide how you want to play and, for each objective, there are always lots of different approaches. I played it twice and on my 2nd run I encountered lots of things/places I didn't even know existed! Compare this to a game like COD4, where the game designers fully decided how you should play each level.

[QUOTE="clone01"]i referenced several games in a previous post that crysis borrows from. again, your tone is extremely condescending. also, everything we are discussing is opinion, so what are your basing your argument on?AnnoyedDragon

"I don't like Crysis" is a opinion.

"I found Crysis boring" is a opinion.

"I prefer more scripted games" is a opinion.

"Crysis is run of the mill" is a claim, a matter of fact statement, not a preference or opinion. You are hiding behind your opinion like it's a shield that protects you from giving a explanation, that claim being Crysis is nothing special and there are loads of examples of other games offering the same.

If those are your examples then it just further convinces me you don't know what Crysis is about. Crysis is a Sci-Fi FPS so you say Halo/KZ2 did it, Crysis has a none linear approach so you say Far Cry 2 did it, Crysis has nano suit powers so you say a game that has powers like Bioshock did it. You cannot call a game generic just because it uses a Sci-Fi theme, you cannot call it generic because a game from the same creators that this is a spiritual successor to is like it, you cannot... why are you even comparing it to Bioshock?

Is it any wonder I struggle to speak with such people on respectable terms? All I see is a bunch of insecure consolites taking turns to stab at the game with a few genuine opinions thrown in the mess. Me and others are expected to accept this idea that Crysis is generic, but whenever we ask that people explain this they either give poor explanations that prove they are inexperienced with the game or put up a opinion brick wall.

If you really have played Crysis then you should have a idea of what is does, either give me examples of why the game is run or the mill or stick to only expressing a opinions in the future.

okay, I think crysis is run of the mill. is that better?clone01

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I can't help but chuckle at people who try to compare linear, limited, generic First Person Shooters like Killzone 2, to Crysis.

I think it's also safe to say that 90% of the people who hate on the game, are either consolites or don't have a rig capable of running it very well.

Comparing the two games is literally like comparing a high-end gaming PC to a console... i.e. ridiculously laughable :)

FamiBox

(chuckles)

You are a funny guy.

[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I can't help but chuckle at people who try to compare linear, limited, generic First Person Shooters like Killzone 2, to Crysis.

I think it's also safe to say that 90% of the people who hate on the game, are either consolites or don't have a rig capable of running it very well.

Comparing the two games is literally like comparing a high-end gaming PC to a console... i.e. ridiculously laughable :)

raynimrod

(chuckles)

You are a funny guy.

I chuckled even more :)