Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent Review!!! 360 version = Superior GFX!!!

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]is it a suprise that 360 ports to the PS3 continue to stink? they're still trying to figure the hardware out.m3Boarder32

lortnoc egamad :lol:

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]is it a suprise that 360 ports to the PS3 continue to stink? they're still trying to figure the hardware out.Dreams-Visions

lortnoc egamad :lol:

yllear?

Ok your point being?Led_poison

You really expect Ubisoft to do the nessesary work on development on PS3????Blinblingthing

After seeing what they can do with the Wii.... Well :lol: can't say I look forward to many Ubisoft games.  

[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Ok your point being?Berserker_2

How about Wreckless by  Activision??  9 in graphics for xbox,  and a 6 in graphics for PS2 9 months later.....

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]is it a suprise that 360 ports to the PS3 continue to stink? they're still trying to figure the hardware out.m3Boarder32

lortnoc egamad :lol:

yllear?

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]is it a suprise that 360 ports to the PS3 continue to stink? they're still trying to figure the hardware out.Dreams-Visions

lortnoc egamad :lol:

yllear?

dnimreven =)

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]is it a suprise that 360 ports to the PS3 continue to stink? they're still trying to figure the hardware out.m3Boarder32

lortnoc egamad :lol:

yllear?

dnimreven =)

[QUOTE="stuart69"]This game was ported over from 360...such a shockin suprise that it looks a little better on the 360 :roll:rappid_rabbit

 If it does look better than the PS3 version, all of a sudden you'll notice that the "it had extra dev time" arguement will now be a valid argument for cows. Unlike now were Oblivion looking slightly better and running slightly better is because of the PS3's "superior hardware" and has nothing to do with extra dev time :roll:

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]is it a suprise that 360 ports to the PS3 continue to stink? they're still trying to figure the hardware out.Dreams-Visions

lortnoc egamad :lol:

yllear?

dnimreven =)

thgif!

[QUOTE="rappid_rabbit"][QUOTE="stuart69"]This game was ported over from 360...such a shockin suprise that it looks a little better on the 360 :roll:Snugenz

 If it does look better than the PS3 version, all of a sudden you'll notice that the "it had extra dev time" arguement will now be a valid argument for cows. Unlike now were Oblivion looking slightly better and running slightly better is because of the PS3's "superior hardware" and has nothing to do with extra dev time :roll:

Glad to see someone else gets it too

[QUOTE="rappid_rabbit"][QUOTE="stuart69"]This game was ported over from 360...such a shockin suprise that it looks a little better on the 360 :roll:Snugenz

If it does look better than the PS3 version, all of a sudden you'll notice that the "it had extra dev time" arguement will now be a valid argument for cows. Unlike now were Oblivion looking slightly better and running slightly better is because of the PS3's "superior hardware" and has nothing to do with extra dev time :roll:

[QUOTE="stuart69"]This game was ported over from 360...such a shockin suprise that it looks a little better on the 360 :roll:rappid_rabbit

 Another fine thread of cow damage control....

DXGreat1_HGL

How is it damage control when its a port? And besides ubisoft and most of these third party devs, are just not doing a good enough job like the makers of oblivion to port the game over, taking advantage of the ps3 hardware, or even the ports would look and run better on the ps3.

Fanboys could say all they want, but the fact is, the xbox 360 has had more time for third party devs to work with there games and when ported over, they just aint doing a good job on it. Like kojima says, alot of third party devs just dont put there hearts into making great games, not all but alot and the sad thing is, when porting a game, is when there is better hardware to work with and the results of the ports are downgraded alot, just tells me the devs just dont care much for consumers who buy there games on other platforms.

Mixed feelings. It's worth a lol seeing how cows have been bouncing around the room when multiplat games are improved over time for the PS3 and SCDA reaches them and it turns out to be somewhat worse, but still, Ubisoft AER TEH SuX. I can NEvER forgive them for murdering Far Cry on the Wii, not to mention that every Wii game they;ve made is buggy as hell and looks hideous.MegaPigeon

[QUOTE="HyperMetaDragon"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]

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Graphically, the game looks good, but falls short of the detailed display Sam saw on Xbox 360 last year. Players who ran through the paces in Microsoft-land will notice a slower framerate and the loss of a few small details (things like a smaller quantity of fights during the prison riot, different textures on character close-ups and no goggle-toggle when tossing on Sam's specs).

There are other areas where Sam and company suffer from a bout of PS3 hiccups too. In some instances, for example, snow falls everywhere but the top left-hand corner of the screen; Sam's hands occasionally clip into walls while he hacks at a wire; and the camera will sometime flip out as our hero climbs across a pipe. These miniscule glitches are forgivable, however, and it's actually quite fun to pull enemies into icy ponds, crack safes and hide in the shadows. Plus, the PS3 gets two additional multiplayer maps and a female spy that the 360 never saw.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/778/778514p1.html

matteno1

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when i read reviews like this, i just can't understand where all the power of the is and what is it being used for. 

it's certainly not being utilized very well for gaming.

i just don't see paying hundreds of dollars more for a ps3 when it underperforms the competition on a consistent basis, but that's just me i guess....

well, me.....and the other of countless millions who aren't buying it....

the 360 just seems to be the better gaming machine, apparently...

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[QUOTE="Huxley_00"]cows had there moment of glory making hundreds of threads about Oblivion

One measly game and they jump through the roof..Blinblingthing

Hmmm

Bethesda >>> Ubisoft

Yeah, Those AA games looking better on 360 mean nothing when the AAA one scores better .

What AAA PS3 game scored better than its 360 counterpart?

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Graphically, the game looks good, but falls short of the detailed display Sam saw on Xbox 360 last year. Players who ran through the paces in Microsoft-land will notice a slower framerate and the loss of a few small details (things like a smaller quantity of fights during the prison riot, different textures on character close-ups and no goggle-toggle when tossing on Sam's specs).

There are other areas where Sam and company suffer from a bout of PS3 hiccups too. In some instances, for example, snow falls everywhere but the top left-hand corner of the screen; Sam's hands occasionally clip into walls while he hacks at a wire; and the camera will sometime flip out as our hero climbs across a pipe. These miniscule glitches are forgivable, however, and it's actually quite fun to pull enemies into icy ponds, crack safes and hide in the shadows. Plus, the PS3 gets two additional multiplayer maps and a female spy that the 360 never saw.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/778/778514p1.html

DaddyDC650

So what do you have to say to the fact that the Xbox 360 can barely run Quake 4?  Is it not as powerful as you thought?  The game engine for Quake 4 is 3 years old, and the Xbox 360 can barely run it!!

[QUOTE="Huxley_00"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="Huxley_00"]cows had there moment of glory making hundreds of threads about Oblivion

One measly game and they jump through the roof..Blinblingthing

Hmmm

Bethesda >>> Ubisoft

Yeah, Those AA games looking better on 360 mean nothing when the AAA one scores better .

:lol:

It's so amusing to watch fanboys back themselves into a corner. Your argument fails, and now you're trying to desperately find a way to discount his argument. It's kind of sad really.

Sorry dude, but those games do count. Regardless of scores, they still look better on the Xbox 360. Give it up.

The problem is in the difficulty of developing games on the cell... there just isn't enough people with experience of developing for something that's just so new.  On the other hand... with Xbox360 being very similar to a PC (when it comes to development) you can find alot more experienced developers for X360 games...

Perfect example was Armored core 4(?) and from what I've read the first PS3 -> X360 port was actually better on X360

My 2c

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Graphically, the game looks good, but falls short of the detailed display Sam saw on Xbox 360 last year. Players who ran through the paces in Microsoft-land will notice a slower framerate and the loss of a few small details (things like a smaller quantity of fights during the prison riot, different textures on character close-ups and no goggle-toggle when tossing on Sam's specs).

There are other areas where Sam and company suffer from a bout of PS3 hiccups too. In some instances, for example, snow falls everywhere but the top left-hand corner of the screen; Sam's hands occasionally clip into walls while he hacks at a wire; and the camera will sometime flip out as our hero climbs across a pipe. These miniscule glitches are forgivable, however, and it's actually quite fun to pull enemies into icy ponds, crack safes and hide in the shadows. Plus, the PS3 gets two additional multiplayer maps and a female spy that the 360 never saw.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/778/778514p1.html

Subcritical

So what do you have to say to the fact that the Xbox 360 can barely run Quake 4?  Is it not as powerful as you thought?  The game engine for Quake 4 is 3 years old, and the Xbox 360 can barely run it!!

actually you're wrong.. q4 was a rushed port from pc....  it wasn't even made for a consolel.

you really need to do more reading about this stuff...:lol:

[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]

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Graphically, the game looks good, but falls short of the detailed display Sam saw on Xbox 360 last year. Players who ran through the paces in Microsoft-land will notice a slower framerate and the loss of a few small details (things like a smaller quantity of fights during the prison riot, different textures on character close-ups and no goggle-toggle when tossing on Sam's specs).

There are other areas where Sam and company suffer from a bout of PS3 hiccups too. In some instances, for example, snow falls everywhere but the top left-hand corner of the screen; Sam's hands occasionally clip into walls while he hacks at a wire; and the camera will sometime flip out as our hero climbs across a pipe. These miniscule glitches are forgivable, however, and it's actually quite fun to pull enemies into icy ponds, crack safes and hide in the shadows. Plus, the PS3 gets two additional multiplayer maps and a female spy that the 360 never saw.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/778/778514p1.html

Subcritical

So what do you have to say to the fact that the Xbox 360 can barely run Quake 4?  Is it not as powerful as you thought?  The game engine for Quake 4 is 3 years old, and the Xbox 360 can barely run it!!

Quake 4 was a quick and dirty port. The Devs didn't spend nearly enough time optimizing it to make it run smoothly.

But hell, the Xbox 360 can run UE3, a much more comprehensive and powerful engine, smooth as silk, as evidenced by Gears of War, thus destroying your argument.

ubisoft fault..ps3 is capable of matching the 360 version  or even doing better..but they decided to be lazy and jus do a crappy port...it looks like im not goin to gettin this game.well i wasnt from the start...all ps3 owners shouldnt get this game...but oblivion you should  definely buy because  it looks better then the 360 version..elementz28

So if the game is better than the 360 version get it; if its not you dont buy it. You shouldnt be picky you barely have any games worth talking about.

[QUOTE="Subcritical"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]

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Graphically, the game looks good, but falls short of the detailed display Sam saw on Xbox 360 last year. Players who ran through the paces in Microsoft-land will notice a slower framerate and the loss of a few small details (things like a smaller quantity of fights during the prison riot, different textures on character close-ups and no goggle-toggle when tossing on Sam's specs).

There are other areas where Sam and company suffer from a bout of PS3 hiccups too. In some instances, for example, snow falls everywhere but the top left-hand corner of the screen; Sam's hands occasionally clip into walls while he hacks at a wire; and the camera will sometime flip out as our hero climbs across a pipe. These miniscule glitches are forgivable, however, and it's actually quite fun to pull enemies into icy ponds, crack safes and hide in the shadows. Plus, the PS3 gets two additional multiplayer maps and a female spy that the 360 never saw.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/778/778514p1.html

tango90101

So what do you have to say to the fact that the Xbox 360 can barely run Quake 4?  Is it not as powerful as you thought?  The game engine for Quake 4 is 3 years old, and the Xbox 360 can barely run it!!

actually you're wrong.. q4 was a rushed port from pc....  it wasn't even made for a consolel.

you really need to do more reading about this stuff...:lol:

Actually no, I'm not wrong.  Maybe Splinter Cell: Double Agent was a rush port for the PS3?  OH yeah, you don't want to figure that into the discussion, and that is what I was getting at with my post. 

Just because a given game runs like turd on a platform doesn't necessarily mean that the hardware is at fault, now does it?

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

 Another fine thread of cow damage control....

squallff8_fan

How is it damage control when its a port? And besides ubisoft and most of these third party devs, are just not doing a good enough job like the makers of oblivion to port the game over, taking advantage of the ps3 hardware, or even the ports would look and run better on the ps3.

Fanboys could say all they want, but the fact is, the xbox 360 has had more time for third party devs to work with there games and when ported over, they just aint doing a good job on it. Like kojima says, alot of third party devs just dont put there hearts into making great games, not all but alot and the sad thing is, when porting a game, is when there is better hardware to work with and the results of the ports are downgraded alot, just tells me the devs just dont care much for consumers who buy there games on other platforms.

No matter how you spin it,  that's a bad thing for PS3,  not good........

UBISOFT is a very sloppy developer.  They always do make halfbaked ports. (GRAW, Wii titles, This)  Double Agent wasnt that good to begin with, I have it for 360.....but it doesnt change the fact that they dont try to get the best end result out of their ports and rather get them to a point that is just playable enough to release it quicker and get get some $$$ off of itUptown

They did a fine job porting over Batman Vengance from PS2 for Xbox's original launch...

[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

Another fine thread of cow damage control....

m3Boarder32

How is it damage control when its a port? And besides ubisoft and most of these third party devs, are just not doing a good enough job like the makers of oblivion to port the game over, taking advantage of the ps3 hardware, or even the ports would look and run better on the ps3.

Fanboys could say all they want, but the fact is, the xbox 360 has had more time for third party devs to work with there games and when ported over, they just aint doing a good job on it. Like kojima says, alot of third party devs just dont put there hearts into making great games, not all but alot and the sad thing is, when porting a game, is when there is better hardware to work with and the results of the ports are downgraded alot, just tells me the devs just dont care much for consumers who buy there games on other platforms.

No matter how you spin it, that's a bad thing for PS3, not good........

 And no matters how you try to overblow it, ubisoft is not known for their ports being good.

Ubisoft is the king of sloppy ports.  This doesnt prove anything.ironwarrior2

You also say that the Prince of Persia game is "Another flop for teh little WiiWii"

So They're the kings of sloppy ports for the PS3, but not Wii?

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Graphically, the game looks good, but falls short of the detailed display Sam saw on Xbox 360 last year. Players who ran through the paces in Microsoft-land will notice a slower framerate and the loss of a few small details (things like a smaller quantity of fights during the prison riot, different textures on character close-ups and no goggle-toggle when tossing on Sam's specs).

There are other areas where Sam and company suffer from a bout of PS3 hiccups too. In some instances, for example, snow falls everywhere but the top left-hand corner of the screen; Sam's hands occasionally clip into walls while he hacks at a wire; and the camera will sometime flip out as our hero climbs across a pipe. These miniscule glitches are forgivable, however, and it's actually quite fun to pull enemies into icy ponds, crack safes and hide in the shadows. Plus, the PS3 gets two additional multiplayer maps and a female spy that the 360 never saw.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/778/778514p1.html

DaddyDC650

You must be on some really good drugs because this gamespot not IGN.....It is funny how people blame Song for the lazy developers!

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Graphically, the game looks good, but falls short of the detailed display Sam saw on Xbox 360 last year. Players who ran through the paces in Microsoft-land will notice a slower framerate and the loss of a few small details (things like a smaller quantity of fights during the prison riot, different textures on character close-ups and no goggle-toggle when tossing on Sam's specs).

There are other areas where Sam and company suffer from a bout of PS3 hiccups too. In some instances, for example, snow falls everywhere but the top left-hand corner of the screen; Sam's hands occasionally clip into walls while he hacks at a wire; and the camera will sometime flip out as our hero climbs across a pipe. These miniscule glitches are forgivable, however, and it's actually quite fun to pull enemies into icy ponds, crack safes and hide in the shadows. Plus, the PS3 gets two additional multiplayer maps and a female spy that the 360 never saw.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/778/778514p1.html

Ericvon71

You must be on some really good drugs because this gamespot not IGN.....It is funny how people blame Song for the lazy developers!

That means it will get like a 7.0 at Gamespot :lol:

[QUOTE="Huxley_00"]cows had there moment of glory making hundreds of threads about Oblivion

One measly game and they jump through the roof..Blinblingthing

Hmmm

Bethesda >>> Ubisoft

UBISOFT is a very sloppy developer.  They always do make halfbaked ports. (GRAW, Wii titles, This)  Double Agent wasnt that good to begin with, I have it for 360.....but it doesnt change the fact that they dont try to get the best end result out of their ports and rather get them to a point that is just playable enough to release it quicker and get get some $$$ off of itUptown

If Ubisoft games are always so bad on PS3 and Wii,  we might as well start calling those games Xbox 360 exclusives :lol:

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Graphically, the game looks good, but falls short of the detailed display Sam saw on Xbox 360 last year. Players who ran through the paces in Microsoft-land will notice a slower framerate and the loss of a few small details (things like a smaller quantity of fights during the prison riot, different textures on character close-ups and no goggle-toggle when tossing on Sam's specs).

There are other areas where Sam and company suffer from a bout of PS3 hiccups too. In some instances, for example, snow falls everywhere but the top left-hand corner of the screen; Sam's hands occasionally clip into walls while he hacks at a wire; and the camera will sometime flip out as our hero climbs across a pipe. These miniscule glitches are forgivable, however, and it's actually quite fun to pull enemies into icy ponds, crack safes and hide in the shadows. Plus, the PS3 gets two additional multiplayer maps and a female spy that the 360 never saw.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/778/778514p1.html

Ericvon71

You must be on some really good drugs because this gamespot not IGN.....It is funny how people blame Song for the lazy developers!

Ubisoft has never been good at developing for sony consoles. Compared to the other 3rd party devs like EA and Capcom.

There isn't much to say other than 

When games on PS3 are looking that good with more than 7-13 months to finish. Then its clearly the devs not taking full advantage of the system