Tom McShea reviews Skyrim [x-post from Reddit]

You know what I think is funny? All of the player reviews for Skyward sword. Because one day after release we know for a fact they all beat a 50 hour game and reviewed it after finishing the game. What's also funny is how they're all just throwing around 9's and 10's like the game has zero flaws. I think in the future gamespot should let a random sytsem wars fanboy review a popular game. So he can play it for ten minutes, give it a ten, and thus making the other fanboys happy. Bread_or_Decide

this is about skyrim how is zeda coming up

lol what's up with all the Tom McShea's memes seething the internet? :lol:

lol what's up with all the Tom McShea's memes seething the internet? :lol:

wirey87

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]You know what I think is funny? All of the player reviews for Skyward sword. Because one day after release we know for a fact they all beat a 50 hour game and reviewed it after finishing the game. What's also funny is how they're all just throwing around 9's and 10's like the game has zero flaws. I think in the future gamespot should let a random sytsem wars fanboy review a popular game. So he can play it for ten minutes, give it a ten, and thus making the other fanboys happy. Mario1331

this is about skyrim how is zeda coming up

[QUOTE="wirey87"]

lol what's up with all the Tom McShea's memes seething the internet? :lol:

aia89

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

I actually found that quite funny. How often has Mcshea said something or did something factually wrong when reviewing a game. Seriously

lightleggy

no actually. I don't care about the score, it's the content of the review that bothers me. He says the game uses IR pointing for the bow controls, however, this is 100% false. Mcshea thinking this falsity has pointed the wiimote at the TV every time he had to use the bow when in actuality you aresuposed to point the wiimote at the ceiling like you're holding a bow. this led to his motion control problems. The controls are fine, but Mcshea didn't know how to work them properly. that's the big problem I had with this review. The same sort of falisy occured in the inFAMOUS 2 review concerning regenerative health. His prince of persia review had to be reposted because the initial one had falisies in it as well. That is the reason I don't like Mcshea's reviews. He's rather incompetent.

I don't get it.KC_Hokie

Mcshea was using the bow controls wrong in the Skyward Sword review. He assumed the game used IR pointing so he pointed the Wiimote at the screen when he was supposed to point it at the ceiling like he's holding a bow. He was complaining that when he pulled out that item, he was always looking at the ground. In other words he was playing the game wrong and docked marks for it

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

I actually found that quite funny. How often has Mcshea said something or did something factually wrong when reviewing a game. Seriously

Pikminmaniac

no actually. I don't care about the score, it's the content of the review that bothers me. He says the game uses IR pointing for the bow controls, however, this is 100% false. Mcshea thinking this falsity has pointed the wiimote at the TV every time he had to use the bow when in actuality you aresuposed to point the wiimote at the ceiling like you're holding a bow. this led to his motion control problems. The controls are fine, but Mcshea didn't know how to work them properly. that's the big problem I had with this review. The same sort of falisy occured in the inFAMOUS 2 review concerning regenerative health. His prince of persia review had to be reposted because the initial one had falisies in it as well. That is the reason I don't like Mcshea's reviews. He's rather incompetent.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I don't get it.Pikminmaniac

Mcshea was using the bow controls wrong in the Skyward Sword review. He assumed the game used IR pointing so he pointed the Wiimote at the screen when he was supposed to point it at the ceiling like he's holding a bow. He was complaining that when he pulled out that item, he was always looking at the ground. In other words he was playing the game wrong and docked marks for it

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

I actually found that quite funny. How often has Mcshea said something or did something factually wrong when reviewing a game. Seriously

super600

Huh!Can that arguement be used for anyone that has little to no experience with the zelda franchise? That includes reviewers to.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

I actually found that quite funny. How often has Mcshea said something or did something factually wrong when reviewing a game. Seriously

Pikminmaniac

no actually. I don't care about the score, it's the content of the review that bothers me. He says the game uses IR pointing for the bow controls, however, this is 100% false. Mcshea thinking this falsity has pointed the wiimote at the TV every time he had to use the bow when in actuality you aresuposed to point the wiimote at the ceiling like you're holding a bow. this led to his motion control problems. The controls are fine, but Mcshea didn't know how to work them properly. that's the big problem I had with this review. The same sort of falisy occured in the inFAMOUS 2 review concerning regenerative health. His prince of persia review had to be reposted because the initial one had falisies in it as well. That is the reason I don't like Mcshea's reviews. He's rather incompetent.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I don't get it.Pikminmaniac

Mcshea was using the bow controls wrong in the Skyward Sword review. He assumed the game used IR pointing so he pointed the Wiimote at the screen when he was supposed to point it at the ceiling like he's holding a bow. He was complaining that when he pulled out that item, he was always looking at the ground. In other words he was playing the game wrong and docked marks for it

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] ok we get it, you are pissed, you wanted SS to score 10 but then THANKFULLY came mcshea not blinded by nostalgia and granted a fair score.lightleggy

Huh!Can that arguement be used for anyone that has little to no experience with the zelda franchise? That includes reviewers to.

even Link sees things now...

aia89

That's not even McShea, but close enough I guess.:P

You know what I think is funny? All of the player reviews for Skyward sword. Because one day after release we know for a fact they all beat a 50 hour game and reviewed it after finishing the game. What's also funny is how they're all just throwing around 9's and 10's like the game has zero flaws. Bread_or_Decide

Thank goodness it is perfectly acceptable to do the opposite and complain about a game one has never played. Otherwise you would be looking very silly right now.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]You know what I think is funny? All of the player reviews for Skyward sword. Because one day after release we know for a fact they all beat a 50 hour game and reviewed it after finishing the game. What's also funny is how they're all just throwing around 9's and 10's like the game has zero flaws. rusty221

Thank goodness it is perfectly acceptable to do the opposite and complain about a game one has never played. Otherwise you would be looking very silly right now.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] ok we get it, you are pissed, you wanted SS to score 10 but then THANKFULLY came mcshea not blinded by nostalgia and granted a fair score.lightleggy

Huh!Can that arguement be used for anyone that has little to no experience with the zelda franchise? That includes reviewers to.

I'm talking about all reviewers that have reviewed the game and anyone that wants to play this game. You cannot just use the nostalgia arguement to figure out a reason to why this game is getting a lot of praise from critcs or users because you don't know if all these people haveplayed all the zeda games.That's why that arguement is flawed, but sadly it will still be used.

The Saboteur - 2.5 - The moment the game turned to black and white Tom turned off his console and gave it a 2.5

hanslacher54

Lol. That would be funny.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="super600"]

Huh!Can that arguement be used for anyone that has little to no experience with the zelda franchise? That includes reviewers to.

Bread_or_Decide

See in addition to the controls which people rave about but Mcshea had a problem with, this part right here is what bothers me a little bit. HE has a problem that the game didn't evolve. This tells me he's a disgruntled Zelda fanboy that had a specific type of game in mind when booting up SS. This is not an aspect of a review. What if little Timmy is playing a Zelda for the first time? What if there are tons of newcomers? Review the game at hand, please. This doesn't only bother me with Zelda, but many other titles as well--namely sports titles. Sometimes I'll look up a game that has more than one entry in the series. Game X will score higher than game Y, yet game Y improves in just about every area but is marked down because it is a similar game.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] well you really dont know if mcshea has 0 experience with zelda franchise, as far as you know he could have been the greatest zelda fan ever and was just hugely dissapointed by SW.Heirren

See in addition to the controls which people rave about but Mcshea had a problem with, this part right here is what bothers me a little bit. HE has a problem that the game didn't evolve. This tells me he's a disgruntled Zelda fanboy that had a specific type of game in mind when booting up SS. This is not an aspect of a review. What if little Timmy is playing a Zelda for the first time? What if there are tons of newcomers? Review the game at hand, please. This doesn't only bother me with Zelda, but many other titles as well--namely sports titles. Sometimes I'll look up a game that has more than one entry in the series. Game X will score higher than game Y, yet game Y improves in just about every area but is marked down because it is a similar game.

lol gotta love a reviewer that plays a game wrong then docks points for it.

and you only truly gain perspective on a game a week or so after you are done with it. GunSmith1_basic

That's a load of s***.

If a person played through a game and enjoyed it....they're not gonna all of a sudden hate it a week later.

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He said that's the LEAST of the games problems. But I have a feeling you didn't listen to the hot spot where he went into more detail about the game.Bread_or_Decide

As anyone who has followed me should know, controls are the single most important element of a game to me. If they aren't responsive all the time, I get frustrated, because it's a problem that could have been averted had the developers been more conscious of the experience they were creating.Tom McShea

But go ahead and keeping gunning for the man

LA Noire - 5.5 - You have the option to play the game in black and white.

hanslacher54

Reddit?Really SW, I mean REALLY?

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="super600"]

Huh!Can that arguement be used for anyone that has little to no experience with the zelda franchise? That includes reviewers to.

super600

I'm talking about all reviewers that have reviewed the game and anyone that wants to play this game. You cannot just use the nostalgia arguement to figure out a reason to why this game is getting a lot of praise from critcs or users because you don't know if all these people haveplayed all the zeda games.That's why that arguement is flawed, but sadly it will still be used.

hey guess what? no one needs to play the game to be able to put these reviewer bashers in their place. GunSmith1_basic

Did I ever say they were right? I was just poking fun at the hypocrisy...

I haven't played the game but i can tell there are serious flaws to it. GunSmith1_basic

...like that.

enlightment (realizing that the games are overrated and that they just love them because of nostalgia) comes to a chosen few, I like to think those chosen few are the heroes of gaming. lightleggy

When you happen to come down from your high pegasus, perhaps you could explain to us mere mortals why this didn't work for Sonic?

I wish I can get paid to review games and troll fanboys as my day job.

Why bother with his review? It's an outlier so you might as well throw it out. Mr_Cumberdale

Probably because we're on a gamespot forum, and it is a gamespot review.

That got a chuckle out of me...you guys saying that it's not funny need to lighten up.

Gxgear

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

Did I ever say they were right? I was just poking fun at the hypocrisy...

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"] I haven't played the game but i can tell there are serious flaws to it. rusty221

...like that.

enlightment (realizing that the games are overrated and that they just love them because of nostalgia) comes to a chosen few, I like to think those chosen few are the heroes of gaming. lightleggy

When you happen to come down from your high pegasus, perhaps you could explain to us mere mortals why this didn't work for Sonic?

Reddit. Sorry, but Reddit is for casuals. /v/'s where it's at!

That's not really funny >.>mrmusicman247

So you do not get it? He is mocking the unfair Zelda review. Tom McShea gave Skyward sword a 7.5 when it got nearly 10s everywhere else because he had the controls set up wrong.

You know what I think is funny? All of the player reviews for Skyward sword. Because one day after release we know for a fact they all beat a 50 hour game and reviewed it after finishing the game. What's also funny is how they're all just throwing around 9's and 10's like the game has zero flaws. I think in the future gamespot should let a random sytsem wars fanboy review a popular game. So he can play it for ten minutes, give it a ten, and thus making the other fanboys happy. Bread_or_Decide

it didnt had half the amount of praise or fans that mario had. lightleggy

You were either a Nintendo fanboy in the early 90's, or not born yet.

I don't know what's more sad, that people find this funny or that they know who Tom McShea, LOL. j/k.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] well you really dont know if mcshea has 0 experience with zelda franchise, as far as you know he could have been the greatest zelda fan ever and was just hugely dissapointed by SW.lightleggy

I'm talking about all reviewers that have reviewed the game and anyone that wants to play this game. You cannot just use the nostalgia arguement to figure out a reason to why this game is getting a lot of praise from critcs or users because you don't know if all these people haveplayed all the zeda games.That's why that arguement is flawed, but sadly it will still be used.

^This is sig worthy. :lol:

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] well you really dont know if mcshea has 0 experience with zelda franchise, as far as you know he could have been the greatest zelda fan ever and was just hugely dissapointed by SW.lightleggy

I'm talking about all reviewers that have reviewed the game and anyone that wants to play this game. You cannot just use the nostalgia arguement to figure out a reason to why this game is getting a lot of praise from critcs or users because you don't know if all these people haveplayed all the zeda games.That's why that arguement is flawed, but sadly it will still be used.

Your arguement still fails. Shouldn't all old franchises fall under this defintion not only ninty games?Also your arguement still fails because you don't have proof people are affected by nostalgia.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="super600"]

I'm talking about all reviewers that have reviewed the game and anyone that wants to play this game. You cannot just use the nostalgia arguement to figure out a reason to why this game is getting a lot of praise from critcs or users because you don't know if all these people haveplayed all the zeda games.That's why that arguement is flawed, but sadly it will still be used.

DarkLink77

^This is sig worthy. :lol:

Yeah!And he had to resort to writing a wall of text to destroy my arguement.

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]That's not really funny >.>Banjo_Kongfooie

So you do not get it? He is mocking the unfair Zelda review. Tom McShea gave Skyward sword a 7.5 when it got nearly 10s everywhere else because he had the controls set up wrong.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="super600"]

I'm talking about all reviewers that have reviewed the game and anyone that wants to play this game. You cannot just use the nostalgia arguement to figure out a reason to why this game is getting a lot of praise from critcs or users because you don't know if all these people haveplayed all the zeda games.That's why that arguement is flawed, but sadly it will still be used.

super600

Your arguement still fails. Shouldn't all old franchises fall under this defintion not only ninty games?Also your arguement still fails because you don't have proof people are affected by nostalgia.So either be quiet or find something else to argue about.