Tom McShea reviews Skyrim [x-post from Reddit]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]That's not really funny >.>Banjo_Kongfooie

So you do not get it? He is mocking the unfair Zelda review. Tom McShea gave Skyward sword a 7.5 when it got nearly 10s everywhere else because he had the controls set up wrong.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] well you really dont know if mcshea has 0 experience with zelda franchise, as far as you know he could have been the greatest zelda fan ever and was just hugely dissapointed by SW.Heirren

See in addition to the controls which people rave about but Mcshea had a problem with, this part right here is what bothers me a little bit. HE has a problem that the game didn't evolve. This tells me he's a disgruntled Zelda fanboy that had a specific type of game in mind when booting up SS. This is not an aspect of a review. What if little Timmy is playing a Zelda for the first time? What if there are tons of newcomers? Review the game at hand, please. This doesn't only bother me with Zelda, but many other titles as well--namely sports titles. Sometimes I'll look up a game that has more than one entry in the series. Game X will score higher than game Y, yet game Y improves in just about every area but is marked down because it is a similar game.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] No, the nostalgia argument can only be used with nintendo games. and this is how nintendo nostalgia works: either you are a guy who has been living in a cage and its over 17 years old and had never heard about mario or zelda and you had never played one...OR you are a 5 years old kid who just played mario games, OR you are a guy who has played mario for a long time. the 5 years old kid wont complain, he is 5 years old and they pretty much love every single video game, just holding the controller makes them feel excited, so he can ignore all the game's flaws and when he grows up, he will love mario and wont care about the negative stuff, because he grew up with that game. you can be the kind of gamer who had played mario and nintendo games since he was a kid...and you will love every nintendo game because of this. or you can be the guy who lived under a rock and had never heard of the games, and you can like them and think they are innovative...because you had never heard about them and had never played them. thats how it goes, thats why nostalgia in nintendo games is so damn effective. you are either a kid who is about to fall for the nostalgia, or a grown up guy who already did...there are no "in betweeners" who have the choise to say if they want to be nintendo fans or not. enlightment (realizing that the games are overrated and that they just love them because of nostalgia) comes to a chosen few, I like to think those chosen few are the heroes of gaming.super600

^This is sig worthy. :lol:

Yeah!And he had to resort to writing a wall of text to destroy my arguement.

Tom McShea is a made up character used as scapegoats for the videogame review industry in order to syphon rage towards him instead of them for everything else they do that we should be in an uproar about!

Or not... Probably not.

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]That's not really funny >.>Banjo_Kongfooie

So you do not get it? He is mocking the unfair Zelda review. Tom McShea gave Skyward sword a 7.5 when it got nearly 10s everywhere else because he had the controls set up wrong.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] No, the nostalgia argument can only be used with nintendo games. and this is how nintendo nostalgia works: either you are a guy who has been living in a cage and its over 17 years old and had never heard about mario or zelda and you had never played one...OR you are a 5 years old kid who just played mario games, OR you are a guy who has played mario for a long time. the 5 years old kid wont complain, he is 5 years old and they pretty much love every single video game, just holding the controller makes them feel excited, so he can ignore all the game's flaws and when he grows up, he will love mario and wont care about the negative stuff, because he grew up with that game. you can be the kind of gamer who had played mario and nintendo games since he was a kid...and you will love every nintendo game because of this. or you can be the guy who lived under a rock and had never heard of the games, and you can like them and think they are innovative...because you had never heard about them and had never played them. thats how it goes, thats why nostalgia in nintendo games is so damn effective. you are either a kid who is about to fall for the nostalgia, or a grown up guy who already did...there are no "in betweeners" who have the choise to say if they want to be nintendo fans or not. enlightment (realizing that the games are overrated and that they just love them because of nostalgia) comes to a chosen few, I like to think those chosen few are the heroes of gaming.lightleggy

Your arguement still fails. Shouldn't all old franchises fall under this defintion not only ninty games?Also your arguement still fails because you don't have proof people are affected by nostalgia.So either be quiet or find something else to argue about.

This is just to easy. It doesn't matter if a company is succesful or not in the past or present. You cannot determine if ninty games are affected by nostalgia with proof no matter what way you try to twist my arguement.Unless you can provide me statistical proof your arguement fails.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

^This is sig worthy. :lol:

lightleggy

Yeah!And he had to resort to writing a wall of text to destroy my arguement.

because the argument only applies for nintendo, because its nintendo. please go ahead and tell me about a company that was as successful as nintendolightleggy

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, Sega. Megadrive outsold the Snes in some areas, and there's a lot of nostalgia for their old systems and franchises out there.

this is the internet and nobody ever admits defeat in the internetlightleggy

So I see. :P

[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

What an idiot.

Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="super600"]

Yeah!And he had to resort to writing a wall of text to destroy my arguement.

mrmusicman247

I did used paragraphs...it lost the format on the quote because he used quick quote.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] well you really dont know if mcshea has 0 experience with zelda franchise, as far as you know he could have been the greatest zelda fan ever and was just hugely dissapointed by SW.lightleggy

I'm talking about all reviewers that have reviewed the game and anyone that wants to play this game. You cannot just use the nostalgia arguement to figure out a reason to why this game is getting a lot of praise from critcs or users because you don't know if all these people haveplayed all the zeda games.That's why that arguement is flawed, but sadly it will still be used.

I really can't believe someone actually thinks this. You really think people only love them because of nostalgia?

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="super600"]

I'm talking about all reviewers that have reviewed the game and anyone that wants to play this game. You cannot just use the nostalgia arguement to figure out a reason to why this game is getting a lot of praise from critcs or users because you don't know if all these people haveplayed all the zeda games.That's why that arguement is flawed, but sadly it will still be used.

timmy00

I really can't believe someone actually thinks this. You really think people only love them because of nostalgia?

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] No, the nostalgia argument can only be used with nintendo games. and this is how nintendo nostalgia works: either you are a guy who has been living in a cage and its over 17 years old and had never heard about mario or zelda and you had never played one...OR you are a 5 years old kid who just played mario games, OR you are a guy who has played mario for a long time. the 5 years old kid wont complain, he is 5 years old and they pretty much love every single video game, just holding the controller makes them feel excited, so he can ignore all the game's flaws and when he grows up, he will love mario and wont care about the negative stuff, because he grew up with that game. you can be the kind of gamer who had played mario and nintendo games since he was a kid...and you will love every nintendo game because of this. or you can be the guy who lived under a rock and had never heard of the games, and you can like them and think they are innovative...because you had never heard about them and had never played them. thats how it goes, thats why nostalgia in nintendo games is so damn effective. you are either a kid who is about to fall for the nostalgia, or a grown up guy who already did...there are no "in betweeners" who have the choise to say if they want to be nintendo fans or not. enlightment (realizing that the games are overrated and that they just love them because of nostalgia) comes to a chosen few, I like to think those chosen few are the heroes of gaming.lightleggy

I really can't believe someone actually thinks this. You really think people only love them because of nostalgia?

And yet you still have no proof to back this wild statement of yours and your still relying on making wild generalizations that are based all on your own opinion.Justgive up dude and come back and make this claim when you have proof.

Tom will give Last Gurdian a 4/10 because it has a cat plus bird creature :|

That picture looks like either a 3 year old or someone with special needs drew it, its not even very funny let alone the fact he didn't give it a 6.

i guess i'm a godless heathen on this forum, because i consider skyward sword to be the best zelda ever and one of the best games ever made.

nd i saw this on reddit... when it was still cool /hipster

Oh dear god what have I done.

i guess i'm a godless heathen on this forum, because i consider skyward sword to be the best zelda ever and one of the best games ever made.

nd i saw this on reddit... when it was still cool /hipster

princeofshapeir

Not sure if the zelda cycle is in full swing yet.

i liked his zelda review. and the people who complain about the controls fluke obviously didnt understand what the rant was about and his rant was valid. im a zelda fan, but the people flaming him are just butthurt that his opinion is different.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]That's not really funny >.>skrat_01

So you do not get it? He is mocking the unfair Zelda review. Tom McShea gave Skyward sword a 7.5 when it got nearly 10s everywhere else because he had the controls set up wrong.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]You know what I think is funny? All of the player reviews for Skyward sword. Because one day after release we know for a fact they all beat a 50 hour game and reviewed it after finishing the game. What's also funny is how they're all just throwing around 9's and 10's like the game has zero flaws. I think in the future gamespot should let a random sytsem wars fanboy review a popular game. So he can play it for ten minutes, give it a ten, and thus making the other fanboys happy. Bread_or_Decide

this is about skyrim how is zeda coming up

well he did admit he mistaken the controls hes a noob for that....

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] well you really dont know if mcshea has 0 experience with zelda franchise, as far as you know he could have been the greatest zelda fan ever and was just hugely dissapointed by SW.lightleggy

I'm talking about all reviewers that have reviewed the game and anyone that wants to play this game. You cannot just use the nostalgia arguement to figure out a reason to why this game is getting a lot of praise from critcs or users because you don't know if all these people haveplayed all the zeda games.That's why that arguement is flawed, but sadly it will still be used.

LMAO are you serious right now?

[QUOTE="rusty221"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]You know what I think is funny? All of the player reviews for Skyward sword. Because one day after release we know for a fact they all beat a 50 hour game and reviewed it after finishing the game. What's also funny is how they're all just throwing around 9's and 10's like the game has zero flaws. GunSmith1_basic

Thank goodness it is perfectly acceptable to do the opposite and complain about a game one has never played. Otherwise you would be looking very silly right now.

.......what?

It was much more entertaining watching Twilight Princess fanboys fall apart five years ago. This drawing is all we get? :(

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

So you do not get it? He is mocking the unfair Zelda review. Tom McShea gave Skyward sword a 7.5 when it got nearly 10s everywhere else because he had the controls set up wrong.

simomate

Either way it's nitpicking and removing greater context out of spite.

He didn't enjoy the game as much as other critics, woe woe woe.

I think his Infamous 2 review was the worst, i mean black and white screen too much? stop sucking then! :P i kid but honestly too funny tho

finalstar2007

That's not really funny >.>mrmusicman247

It's reddit...what did you expect ?

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]That's not really funny >.>Sagem28

It's reddit...what did you expect ?

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

I actually found that quite funny. How often has Mcshea said something or did something factually wrong when reviewing a game. Seriously

lightleggy