Tomb Raider's Showing Was Absolute Garbage

For those who don't know much about me, I love Tomb Raider. It's my favorite franchise of all time. I even play the dumb spin-offs like Lara Croft's: Temple Run, and I'm genuinely excited for Tomb Raider Go.

Now, Tomb Raider. For now, it's a Microsoft thing. I don't like it, but that's just shitty business. I'm not here to discuss how wrong this is towards the fans or whatever. Get over it. What I'm here to talk about is them showing it off, and it being completely fucking awful.

They literally showed the worst parts of Uncharted. Cinematic walking and QTEs. Be sure to press "X" here, bruh! **** off. Uncharted 4's presentation was exciting. Shooting, vehicle sections, shooting stuff, platforming mid-level. It's already a better Tomb Raider game than Rise of the Tomb Raider. Now, I know, I shouldn't judge it like that. The last part of the gameplay section shows Lara doing Tomb Raider-y stuff.

As far as I've seen, the interviews have really focused on this Tomb Raider being more exploration focused. Hell, I just read one now. I'm just sad they didn't show any of that during their showing. I know that showing off a game, you need to excite people, and having Lara pushing some blocks around... That's not gonna work, unless you're as fanboy-grounded as me. But this seemed like something big for Microsoft rather than a money thing to compete with Uncharted.

For now, they have promises. And I hope those promises come true. I'm still excited, but I feel so letdown by their performance. Hell, in general it wasn't great.

What about other Tomb Raider fans? I honestly expected more. Not just during their conference, but after show stuff.

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WTF...

I hope for the best as I enjoyed the last game. The presentation was lacking though.

I thought it was as good as the TR reveal from a few years ago.....I will enjoy the hell out of this game, even with some scripted events from time to time.

i mean, those scripted sections play better in a big press conference. if its just more of the last tomb raider thats fine with me because i really liked that game

There is only so little you can do on a 1.2 TFLOP GPU. The sooner the game industry ditches the XB1, the better. Just look at what Uncharted 4 pulled of in mere minutes versus some scripted snoozefest called Tomb Raider. Blame the gimped hardware, not the game.

Tomb Raider use to be a fun comic book style globe trotting adventure with neat puzzles and platforming.

Now it's torture porn "oh golly this situation is harsh" pishy poo.

Keep your fucking exclusive, no one cares.

Honestly I wish Tomb Raider Legend with modernized gameplay was a thing. I hope thats what this game taps into actually. The cunning protagonist who cake walks climing a cliff. The tombs and the adventure feel. Because adventure feel > survival. And that's the very thing Uncharted took from TR in the first place.

They should have shown a tomb raiding with puzzle solving and a gun fight. Much better way to bring the hype.

Hopefully you mean that figuratively.

I agree with OP, it was pretty damn garbage.

@uninspiredcup: Perhaps it'd be more efficient to comment positively on the 1% of games you like, rather than negatively on the 99% you don't? Just a thought.

Agreed. If you're going to show anything show the things that the last game was actually good at. Because spectacle wasn't one of them, that's an area when any Uncharted game outclasses Tomb Raider. It was the moment to moment shooting that was fun, and the standard shoot out areas where you had a little space to be sneaky and predator like.

Show something like that one part in the original when you're in that forest area with the cabins when everyone is hunting for you, and you're being all sneaky assassin with the bow. That would at least be more interesting from a gameplay perspective. What they really should have shown was the fucking tombs. Show the bitch actually solving puzzles in actual elaborate tombs, and not these one offs with boring simple puzzles that quickly end with she opens a chest, and leaves.

Tomb Raider was an okay game that had elements that should have been expanded upon to make one of the most bitchin action/adventure games in awhile, instead they showed "sike we didn't improve shit, we just made more of that okay game, instead of actually doing something good".

Such a pointless statement. PC GPUs make both the XBone and PS4 look like TI-83 calculators by comparison. Dropping both would allow creators far more creativity than just the XBone.

Unfortunately, that's not economically viable.

The presentation wasn't flattering when it comes to gameplay, but I'm hoping the game isn't a bunch of scripted events. The last Tomb Raider was decent enough and I'm really hoping for an expanded version of that, just not expanded in the qte department.

I'm sure the game will be good though.

@freedomfreak: the gameplay they showed was pretty lacking but that montage of gameplay at the end gave me hope again. So far it's still a day one but could turn into a wait for reviews game pretty quickly lol

"Worst parts of Uncharted." I think that's exactly what I said after I saw the presentation.

I'm not writing the game off yet, but so far they haven't shown me anything to be excited about.

Also, what is Snake doing behind Lara in that picture?

Technically speaking, of the 21 or so Tomb Raider games, 19 of them are fun cartoon adventures with nifty puzzles, this is the minority.

Tomb Raider became Hair Simulator

HOLY SHIT

Uncharted 4 smacked the shit out of it in every way

She looks pretty darn good.

Trying to respond to people before I pass out. Yeah, the thing is, nobody cares about that Tomb Raider anymore. Series had grown stale. Legend was like yay shooting and good platforming, and nobody gave a shit about Underworld. So they rebooted it, and it's been successful. Fact is, nobody wants old school TR back and I fully understand it. I just hope they can hit a sweet balance between shooting stuff and exploration.

No I mean with the updated gameplay and form factor. But like the confident Lara and access to Croft Manor you know? While still having the modern shit. It won't do any harm and I think people would respond well. On the other hand, regarding this title, I hope we see some Tomb gameplay and fast. A shoot out with new moves and ways of taking down enemies. Or even a set piece grounded in core mechanics similar to what Uncharted 4 showed. But to be honest, I want to see exploration from both RoTTR and UC4 since none of them have shown much in that regard. TR showing absolutely nothing. I wanted to see too many things and all we got was a cinematic set piece. None of what they were hyping was seen. That's not good.

Agreed, I can't believe our resident lemmings have such low standards, it's really despicable. It was just a glorified QTE climbing sequence with cutscenes.

This is a far cry from the tomb raider I once loved.

You're in her? Get out! How dare you defile her exquisite body?

They need to keep some things secret. Tomb raiding is going to be great and far better than any Uncharted game.

So much Salt from the butthurt Cows. lol

It wasn't in the last game.

The last game, which we have to go on. Involved pretty much mini side areas with collectible challenges, it was terrible. The best parts of that game involved no raiding of tombs whatsoever.

I don't disagree with you but I'd like to point out that you are the one who is hyping a glorified Japanese take on Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons that showed almost the same gameplay situation as on presentation from...2011 on PS3.

Dont think it was either bad or anything exciting

Tomb raiding? Like the extra side quests that weren't part of the mission in Tomb Raider?

They said the last Tomb Raider was mostly about surviving but now it's all about Tomb Raiding.

You mean last guardian? That games got a serious pedigree, from a studio that's near to my heart. Of course it's not for everybody but you can't call it generic shit like tomb raider.

I think he's referring to the claims of Crystal Dynamics devs who have gone on record to say it is going to be a(n) (more) integral part of the game now.

By the way, I won't disagree that they could've chosen to present a different fragment, but there were tidbits throughout the presentation, as well as the concluding montage which contained lots of interesting stuff. Someone who has said that they're probably trying to keep as much of it as a mystery - is probably right.

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So it's showing the same gameplay from 2011 (for a game in development since 2007), but is a glorified take of a game from 2013?

I totally agree too OP. Like you I'm also a huge TR fan and I but all the games and whatnot, this new TR showing was hot garbage pure and simple. Uncharted 4 destroyed it in a matter of minutes. I'll gladly wait for when the MS timed exclusivity expires to get it on PS4 and PC. They copied the crappiest versions of Uncharted 3 like cinematic walking meanwhile Uncharted 4 was full blown action and excitement.

Nah, you are the garbage. And its time to take out the trash.

I thought Rise of the TR and UC4's demos shown on MS and Sony's Press Conferences were underwhelming.

Yeah, no doubt. Croft Manor.. Ugh.. I'd kickstart that shit. I think UC4 is pretty straight forward in what it wants to be. More Uncharted, and it looks so good. But for Tomb Raider, especially after the last one, I want more. I get the first one. Lara is in her early days, but now, she's becoming the famous explorer. Let me explore. Sorry, dude. I'm sure I can make more sense when I'm sober, but I do get what you're saying. For now, ND is taking the reigns for me.

My thoughts exactly, set pieces and over the top actions galore. Are we here to play our games or watch it?

Uncharted God. Bow down to GLORIOUS NATHAN DRAKE. C'mon, don't say you don't want to look like him..

Crap crap crap

You're more than welcomed to join the Sony team, TC. It's never too late.

With such a small sampling of the game I don't want to call it garbage....but it didn't make me want the game.

To be fair though, the issue is with the showing, and unless Crystal Dynamics are completely lying to us, everything we probably want to see will most likely make it to the final game anyway, apart from necst jen Croft Manor :(

are we talking original drake:

or old man drake:

I want original TR exploration and gameplay, thanks. Of course, those games were declining in popularity sharply as far as I'm aware, so I understand why they decided to shake things up. But the new reboots just aren't what I look for in a TR title. Hopefully they deliver on that more "tomb raiding" angle they claim for RoTR, but as the OP said, they haven't shown much of that to convince me the old games are buried in there

Don't care, still going to buy when it comes to PC.

Ha ha cows still upset about the whole Tomb Raider thing I see. Neither demo was all that impressive.

Soon.

Yeah, exactly. They showed the weakest stuff and then went on to do interviews where they were talking about genuinely interesting things.

I'm being harsh here, no doubt, but I felt with Microsoft just straight up grabbing this, I felt like they could've shown more of the game than just the stuff they did. We'll have to wait, unfortunately, but I hope they can pull it off.

Still, no Croft manor :(

The uc4 demo was worlds more impressive than what was shown of womb raider. You can't even compare the two honestly, it was just on another level.

Shit last e3's ND presentation was still way more impressive than what we saw of tomb raider.