Crystal Dynamics are LITERALLY trying to recreate everything from Uncharted 2, a game which xbox fans vocally ripped apart for it's set pieces and linear quick-time gameplay and scripted events.
LMAO and now in 2015 lemmings are lapping it's shameless doppelganger up like a cat on warm milk and have nothing but praise...hahah
elcome to 6 years ago lemmings. We are waiting for you here in 2015.
NEXT
That is when Tomb Raider was Tomb Raider you desperate lem. Watching the demo tells everything you need to konw, it's an UC2 rip.
I wasn't just showing a snow level lol but it's funny how you are trying to deflect from the gameplay parallels it copied from UC2.
Fail, but I see you love a game that is an attempt to copy a game you and your bothers had nothing but criticism for til this date...welcome to 6 years ago.
So, wait, it's a rip-off because there's snow? Because somehow UC2 invented levels that have snow?
I asked for opinions, not straight up meltdowns.
Lol, no one said anything about "because of snow".
You watched the demo too right?
Looks at the level set up and even the promo picture art direction. It's a fucking COPY. Don't try to defend it now, there are plenty of games "with snow" that have their own identity but the entire setup for Tomb Raider was just like UC2.
Lol, no one said anything about "because of snow".
You watched the demo too right?
Looks at the level set up and even the promo picture art direction. It's a fucking COPY. Don't try to defend it now, there are plenty of games "with snow" that have their own identity but the entire set was just like UC2.
Wait, so a game that's all about adventure, right, has a character traversing mountains, and crazy shit happens like avalanches and ice breaking and whatnot. And somehow it's copying UC2 because of that? You ever watched a movie about avalanches or anything? Because it's what happens in mountains when shit hits the fan. Has nothing to do with copying UC2.
That is when Tomb Raider was Tomb Raider you desperate lem. Watching the demo tells everything you need to konw, it's an UC2 rip.
I wasn't just showing a snow level lol but it's funny how you are trying to deflect from the gameplay parallels it copied from UC2.
Fail, but I see you love a game that is an attempt to copy a game you and your bothers had nothing but criticism for til this date...welcome to 6 years ago.
First and foremost Uncharted is a copy of Tomb raider. not the other way around. Whilst the re-boot has taken a leaf out of UC's play book, if you really thinks its a wholesale trying to copy everything even down to the levels, you are fucking deluded.
finally, you blind biased clown, i stated earlier in the thread (and in several other threads about the franchise) that i am no fan of tomb raider.
ROTR shows an over the top action sequence, Sony fanboys get upset and call it garbage
Uncharted 4 shows an over the top action sequence Sony fanboys thinks it the greatest gaming moment they've ever seen
Sony fanboys are the most dishonest, hypocritical group of fanboys around. Every game or feature on another platform is always shit, but when it's on a Sony console suddenly it's the greatest thing ever.
That Uncharted 4 demo was decent, but after the previous mediocre Uncharted 4 gameplay demo I really thought Naughty Dog would bring something more impressive and exciting to the table. The first part (shootout in the marketplace) felt like Uncharted 3.5, both graphically and gameplay-wise, aside from improved destruction. Then they run through the buildings and across rooftops just like we've done many times before in the previous games. Then a fairly heavily scripted setpiece drive down through the town with a handful of obvious alternate turn spots, and a final quick time grapple.
I mean, it's not bad and I know in the balance of the full game it's going to be fun. But the same can be said of the Tomb Raider demo. Escaping that avalanche is a massive setpiece and I think in the context of the game it's going to be great.
I completely enjoyed Tomb Raider 2013 and I'm liking the changes/improvements I'm reading about Rise of the Tomb Raider. I'm still annoyed Microsoft tied it up as a timed exclusive, but whenever it does make it to PC I definitely plan to get it.
RotTR showed some jumping and some cutscenes. Uncharted 4 showed the player in control the full time with expansive gameplay. The driving sequence was not scripted either. How was the gameplay of TR shown better than Uncharted 4's? Are you blind?
Crystal Dynamics are LITERALLY trying to recreate everything from Uncharted 2, a game which xbox fans vocally ripped apart for it's set pieces and linear quick-time gameplay and scripted events.
LMAO and now in 2015 lemmings are lapping it's shameless doppelganger up like a cat on warm milk and have nothing but praise...hahah
elcome to 6 years ago lemmings. We are waiting for you here in 2015.
NEXT
That is when Tomb Raider was Tomb Raider you desperate lem. Watching the demo tells everything you need to konw, it's an UC2 rip.
I wasn't just showing a snow level lol but it's funny how you are trying to deflect from the gameplay parallels it copied from UC2.
Fail, but I see you love a game that is an attempt to copy a game you and your bothers had nothing but criticism for til this date...welcome to 6 years ago.
That's funny, because nearly every aspect of Uncharted was copied from other games. Go back and read the reviews for Uncharted Drake's Fortune, reviewers complained that it was too much an amalgam of elements from other games and didn't really do enough to create a strong identity of its own.
Lol, no one said anything about "because of snow".
You watched the demo too right?
Looks at the level set up and even the promo picture art direction. It's a fucking COPY. Don't try to defend it now, there are plenty of games "with snow" that have their own identity but the entire set was just like UC2.
Wait, so a game that's all about adventure, right, has a character traversing mountains, and crazy shit happens like avalanches and ice breaking and whatnot. And somehow it's copying UC2 because of that? You ever watched a movie about avalanches or anything? Because it's what happens in mountains when shit hits the fan. Has nothing to do with copying UC2.
Stop grasping.
Lems be excite, you finally get to play your own version of UC2
Lol, no one said anything about "because of snow".
You watched the demo too right?
Looks at the level set up and even the promo picture art direction. It's a fucking COPY. Don't try to defend it now, there are plenty of games "with snow" that have their own identity but the entire set was just like UC2.
Wait, so a game that's all about adventure, right, has a character traversing mountains, and crazy shit happens like avalanches and ice breaking and whatnot. And somehow it's copying UC2 because of that? You ever watched a movie about avalanches or anything? Because it's what happens in mountains when shit hits the fan. Has nothing to do with copying UC2.
Stop grasping.
Lems be excite, you finally get to play your own version of UC2
6 years later lol
Snow is snow is snow tho. Grasping at straws really.
That's some poor trolling, kinect. C'mon, son. Step up.
:)
If ND trolls Crystal Dynamics and decided to offer a Laura Croft Skin for the Nathan Drake Collection this holiday they will have effectively provided a carbon copy of Rise of the Tomb Raider to all it's owners for free.
hey heil, did you hear that the batmobile CE got canned?
yeah, 6 days out, I would be wicked mad. i missed out on it, but I tried in the beginning to get one. Didn't like the statue edition so I'm just going to fancy the normal game itself.
I did however have fun messaging ebay scalpers on this news. Next is notifying ebay itself by phone if these listings dont get taking down. :D
Might not do any good, but its somewhat fun to try and ruin these fuckers for trying to exploit and keep the editions out of peoples hands who really wanted them.
If ND trolls Crystal Dynamics and decided to offer a Laura Croft Skin for the Nathan Drake Collection this holiday they will effectively have provided a carbon copy of Rise of the Tomb Rader to all owners for free.
That's really good, kinect. Literally posting this from the floor, since I fell out of my chair.
I thought it was going to be more like the Modern Warfare 2 E3 showing. Show off some cinematic ice climbing, but then transfer to enemy encounters with high paced action.
Think you might have it confused. Tapping a button to lock on to a mountain side after jumping is not a QTE fest. See Heavy Rain, and Beyond Two Souls if you need to see what a QTE fest is.
Cow butt hurt is not about Tomb Raider itself, It was that SE and CD were putting it on on the Xbox first. I guess you don't remember the cow meltdown a few months ago when it was announced that TR would be an Xbox exclusive? How could a series that started on the PS (even though it was also on the PC and Saturn...lol) possibly not be on the PS first? After the internet pretty much melted from cow tears it was announced that it was a timed exclusive.
I don't now but from my part it wasn't,and son after it was confirm to be time exclusive,so in the end cows get both lemmings get 1 and i am sure will be the inferior one.
Tomb Raider didn't start on PS well it started but was also PC and Saturn at the same time,so it started on 3 platforms it was a multiplatform game.
How come the maps packs that started on the xbox one are not hitting there first.? Yeah the world is a very unpredictable place..lol
How come Indies don't like the xbox this gen.?
See there are many like those..
@kinectthedots said:
Crystal Dynamics are LITERALLY trying to recreate everything from Uncharted 2, a game which xbox fans vocally ripped apart for it's set pieces and linear quick-time gameplay and scripted events.
LMAO and now in 2015 lemmings are lapping it's shameless doppelganger up like a cat on warm milk and have nothing but praise...hahah
Welcome to 6 years ago lemmings. We are waiting for you here in 2015.
Hahahahaa Rise of the Uncharted....lol
I was saying the same too,now i don't have a problem with was shown it is with lemmings since TR now is after Uncharted gameplay and it shows..hahahaha
But lemmings love it and are all over it...hahahaha
@kalipekona said:
Sony fanboys are the most dishonest, hypocritical group of fanboys around. Every game or feature on another platform is always shit, but when it's on a Sony console suddenly it's the greatest thing ever.
That Uncharted 4 demo was decent, but after the previous mediocre Uncharted 4 gameplay demo I really thought Naughty Dog would bring something more impressive and exciting to the table. The first part (shootout in the marketplace) felt like Uncharted 3.5, both graphically and gameplay-wise, aside from improved destruction. Then they run through the buildings and across rooftops just like we've done many times before in the previous games. Then a fairly heavily scripted setpiece drive down through the town with a handful of obvious alternate turn spots, and a final quick time grapple.
I mean, it's not bad and I know in the balance of the full game it's going to be fun. But the same can be said of the Tomb Raider demo. Escaping that avalanche is a massive setpiece and I think in the context of the game it's going to be great.
I completely enjoyed Tomb Raider 2013 and I'm liking the changes/improvements I'm reading about Rise of the Tomb Raider. I'm still annoyed Microsoft tied it up as a timed exclusive, but whenever it does make it to PC I definitely plan to get it.
Lemming now love movies when it was Uncharted doing it,it was bad fact is Uncharted not only showed deeper gameplay and better graphics it also showed more open gameplay to..lol
But hey Tomb Raider is coming to PS4 latter on Uncharted is not coming to xbox one neither does PC.
That is when Tomb Raider was Tomb Raider you desperate lem. Watching the demo tells everything you need to konw, it's an UC2 rip.
I wasn't just showing a snow level lol but it's funny how you are trying to deflect from the gameplay parallels it copied from UC2.
Fail, but I see you love a game that is an attempt to copy a game you and your bothers had nothing but criticism for til this date...welcome to 6 years ago.
You know what the worst part is.? Sts106mats didn't own a PS3 because nothing was worth getting one,he slammed Uncharted with other lemmings,and now hype Tomb Raider which seems to copy UC2..lol
I just watched some TB gameplay and my question is, where exactly are the QTE's? It was boring alright but it's mostly traditional gameplay.
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Well, there was one in that bear fight, but regardless of that, that footage looked great. It's definitely more of what I wanted to see. My OP is about its initial showing during Microsoft's conference.
The QTE's in the first game were pure ass. I definitely want to see fewer of them in Rise.
hey heil, did you hear that the batmobile CE got canned?
yeah, 6 days out, I would be wicked mad. i missed out on it, but I tried in the beginning to get one. Didn't like the statue edition so I'm just going to fancy the normal game itself.
I did however have fun messaging ebay scalpers on this news. Next is notifying ebay itself by phone if these listings dont get taking down. :D
Might not do any good, but its somewhat fun to try and ruin these fuckers for trying to exploit and keep the editions out of peoples hands who really wanted them.
oh thats good then, i myself was considering it, but left it more than a day or two and they were all gone. So I went for the statue. I would be very annoyed though, here in the UK, the retailer GAME (who had an exclusive), are offering £20 discount against the standard edition instead. I'd be really fucked off with that, missing out on the comic and art book aswell.
I'd love to know what the problem with the batmobiles is.
Thats GREAT Game is doing that, Im guessing GameStop will be dudes and do nothing like that.
My guess is the car had some critical defect either in the build or paint. You know all these are still out there, probably going to get destroyed or sold to an after market in China/Japan.
I'd still take one cheap though, taking a chance. But at the price they were asking they had to be perfect/mint and they wernt. Just seems odd they didnt notice sooner?
Think you might have it confused. Tapping a button to lock on to a mountain side after jumping is not a QTE fest. See Heavy Rain, and Beyond Two Souls if you need to see what a QTE fest is.
Cow butt hurt is not about Tomb Raider itself, It was that SE and CD were putting it on on the Xbox first. I guess you don't remember the cow meltdown a few months ago when it was announced that TR would be an Xbox exclusive? How could a series that started on the PS (even though it was also on the PC and Saturn...lol) possibly not be on the PS first? After the internet pretty much melted from cow tears it was announced that it was a timed exclusive.
I don't now but from my part it wasn't,and son after it was confirm to be time exclusive,so in the end cows get both lemmings get 1 and i am sure will be the inferior one.
Tomb Raider didn't start on PS well it started but was also PC and Saturn at the same time,so it started on 3 platforms it was a multiplatform game.
How come the maps packs that started on the xbox one are not hitting there first.? Yeah the world is a very unpredictable place..lol
How come Indies don't like the xbox this gen.?
See there are many like those..
Maybe from your part, but there are still people that are bitter because Tomb Raider is on the Xbone first, and you know that's true.
Yeah that's what I said....still didn't stop the meltdown that happened when the Xbone exclusivity was announced.
Because Sony is paying Activision more this generation than MS is? Seems like MS and Sony switched this gen. Sony is in bed with Activision, and MS is in bed with EA.
There are a bunch of indies on the Xbone. I don't even own one, and I see indies announced for the Bone constantly. I think Sony is just announcing it more this generation because (A) they are relying on them more to fill the void this generation. (B) because they sort of sucked at supporting indies last gen.
I think a lot of these children don't realize Lara was hanging off icy cliffs long before Drake existed. The only thing Uncharted did first was implement a cover system.
People have called Uncharted "Dude Raider" since it first came out.
They are both fun games so this diatribe is pointless.
I think a lot of these children don't realize Lara was hanging off icy cliffs long before Drake existed. The only thing Uncharted did first was implement a cover system.
People have called Uncharted "Dude Raider" since it first came out.
They are both fun games so this diatribe is pointless.
Honestly and genuinely surprised by the showing of Tomb Raider. I mean I'm fine with these sorts of games but I could totally see it getting railed for being just a huge cinematic with QTEs, like even more so than usual. Then Uncharted destroyed it lol. Something I really didn't expect.
Really poor segment to debut. I'm show they'll show a better one at gamescom.
Of course it wasn't as impressive, they weren't running it on a PC all maxed out with tressFX at 4K graphics! ;) j/k
Like you TC, I am a big Tomb Raider fan and having been playing on it since the original on the PC. I even have the "non-Tomb Raider" games like Lara Croft Guardian of Light on Steam. For me I just hope they reach the bar they set with the last one and I hope it is at least as good. I think it may be hard to top that one. But so far Crystal Dynamics have done a good job after they took over from Core. They have brought Lara to life where she speaks and interacts more and the games are more story driven. Prior to the last one I think Legend was the best.
I will reserve judgement until they release the best version which will be on the PC. I just hope they at least try utilize the graphical capabilities of the PC ( like the last one where they had TressFX on the PC) AND have great game play and story line.
I thought Rise of the TR and UC4's demos shown on MS and Sony's Press Conferences were underwhelming.
My thoughts exactly, set pieces and over the top actions galore. Are we here to play our games or watch it?
I'm sure they both will be good games but this isn't 2009 where these demos would be impressive. This is 2015 and these demos are becoming a yearly cliche.
Yeah. I think that's the gist of the problem. Many of the game mechanics has been elevated where implementing similar mechanics or style will not be as impressive in 2015 as it was in 2009.
I think the only thing that may blow people's mind will be stunning graphics which I don't see happening if Crystal Dynamics isn't focusing the game on the PC first and foremost which I don't see happening as it's a Xbox One timed exclusive.
I think a lot of these children don't realize Lara was hanging off icy cliffs long before Drake existed. The only thing Uncharted did first was implement a cover system.
People have called Uncharted "Dude Raider" since it first came out.
They are both fun games so this diatribe is pointless.
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