Too all those that somehow think Killzone 2 looks better than Crysis. (no 56K)

[QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]I already seen all videos. its jus tthat you get more wowed in motion video becouse you cant focus on the flaws since camera changes is fast. In stills its visible.Pariah_001

You keep saying this and I keep pointing out that whatever "flaws" exist behind the curtain are irrelevent to what you're able to see during the playthrough.

I'm not gonna be playing stills. I'm going to be playing a videogame.

You dont think Crysis looks even better in motion to?IgorVitaly

No Actually. I don't. Crysis was designed to be a glorified still frame. It certainly doesn't look bad in motion of course.

Its the only true way of measuring x game vs x game and its technical merits.

And its sad you havent even seen any crysis gameplay video or palyed it. In motion it looks way better especially with object motion-blur. All the bullets and tracers in air, smoke, battledust, sparks, explosions, animations, object motion-blur applied to all moving objects/parts etc. Even a little fight with 5 enemies has way more in action than the beefiest scene shown in any KZ2 video.

But until you exit your denial mode you wont see clear, the day it happens is the day you will feel free.

lol idsoftware rage>>>crysis

muchless doom4.

lol idsoftware rage>>>crysis

muchless doom4.

woobabooba

Until Rage looks better than a "Doom 3 1.5" without plastic fantastic look it can perhaps match Crysis medium. Doom 4 isnt out yet but as Carmack said, the Pc version will look much better than console version.

everytime i see crysis less impressive each time...i was never impressed by the graphics even when it was first shown.woobabooba

I am sorry there exist no game that looks good to you, perhaps in 2-3 console generations ahead (Idoubt there will be many console gens after this one) you will find something to your taste.

Hold up, hold up.

I see Vitaly is spamming threads with images again.

Everyone needs a hobby I guess.

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]Killzone 2, in no way shape or form looks better than Crysis.Pariah_001

There's no big following that says otherwise. The TC just felt defensive and insecure in regards to Killzone's recent hype, so he forced Crysis into the equation so he can feel more confident about his consumer choices.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"]

lol idsoftware rage>>>crysis

muchless doom4.

IgorVitaly

Until Rage looks better than a "Doom 3 1.5" without plastic fantastic look it can perhaps match Crysis medium. Doom 4 isnt out yet but as Carmack said, the Pc version will look much better than console version.

lmfao rage will look much better on pc than crysis.

Yes its better.

But only one troll says KZ2 looks better.

This thread really isnt necessary.

Trust me peoples idsoftware's rage on max settings will own crysis.woobabooba

The CryEngine 2 and Crysis is a beast on its own, and doesent rely on things like MegaTextures.

Yes its better.

But only one troll says KZ2 looks better.

This thread really isnt necessary.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"]Trust me peoples idsoftware's rage on max settings will own crysis.skrat_01

The CryEngine 2 and Crysis is a beast on its own, and doesent rely on things like MegaTextures.

lol DUDE IDSOFTWARE'S TECH5 ENGINE IS MORE ADVANCED THAN CRYENGINE 2.

look at this pic crysis is already showing it's age

I don't think anyone's crazy enough to believe that any console game can be technically graphically superior to to something like Crysis. mattbbpl

so true, but just how many people here can even play Crysis at those settings? I once thought that my PC w/a P4 3ghz, 2GB RAM and an ATI x800XT were capable of playing most games at at least medium settings and at a decent frame rate. I tried just running the Crysis demo and even at LOW settings I still had major frame rate problems. My point is that it's pointless to use top end pics of a game when 99% of it's users won't see that level of detail ever. Still look INCREDIBLE and I'm not taking that away from Crysis. :)

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Yes its better.

But only one troll says KZ2 looks better.

This thread really isnt necessary.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"]Trust me peoples idsoftware's rage on max settings will own crysis.woobabooba

The CryEngine 2 and Crysis is a beast on its own, and doesent rely on things like MegaTextures.

lol DUDE IDSOFTWARE'S TECH5 ENGINE IS MORE ADVANCED THAN CRYENGINE 2.

look at this pic crysis is already showing it's age

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Yes its better.

But only one troll says KZ2 looks better.

This thread really isnt necessary.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"]Trust me peoples idsoftware's rage on max settings will own crysis.woobabooba

The CryEngine 2 and Crysis is a beast on its own, and doesent rely on things like MegaTextures.

lol DUDE IDSOFTWARE'S TECH5 ENGINE IS MORE ADVANCED THAN CRYENGINE 2.

look at this pic crysis is already showing it's age

Not the tech.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Yes its better.

But only one troll says KZ2 looks better.

This thread really isnt necessary.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"]Trust me peoples idsoftware's rage on max settings will own crysis.PC_X360

The CryEngine 2 and Crysis is a beast on its own, and doesent rely on things like MegaTextures.

lol DUDE IDSOFTWARE'S TECH5 ENGINE IS MORE ADVANCED THAN CRYENGINE 2.

look at this pic crysis is already showing it's age

you really think crytek is better at coding engines than john carmack? LOL

tech5 is newer...each texture can be unique unlike crysis repeated textures.

plus i can point out many other low res textures in crysis.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Yes its better.

But only one troll says KZ2 looks better.

This thread really isnt necessary.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"]Trust me peoples idsoftware's rage on max settings will own crysis.skrat_01

The CryEngine 2 and Crysis is a beast on its own, and doesent rely on things like MegaTextures.

lol DUDE IDSOFTWARE'S TECH5 ENGINE IS MORE ADVANCED THAN CRYENGINE 2.

look at this pic crysis is already showing it's age

Not the tech.

Should i report you?

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="woobabooba"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Yes its better.

But only one troll says KZ2 looks better.

This thread really isnt necessary.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"]Trust me peoples idsoftware's rage on max settings will own crysis.woobabooba

The CryEngine 2 and Crysis is a beast on its own, and doesent rely on things like MegaTextures.

lol DUDE IDSOFTWARE'S TECH5 ENGINE IS MORE ADVANCED THAN CRYENGINE 2.

look at this pic crysis is already showing it's age

Not the tech.

Should i report you?

Yes go ahead and report me if you think I did.

Dude's crysis looks better than killzone2.

but engine wise idsoftware tech5 engine is better than crysis aka cryengine 2.

How good idsoftware's game rage looks depends on the artist's skills using john carmacks tech5 engine....but they could make much better looking game than crysis...textures dont really impact performance like crysis.

Dude's crysis looks better than killzone2.

but engine wise idsoftware tech5 engine is better than crysis aka cryengine 2.

How good idsoftware's game rage looks depends on the artist's skills using john carmacks tech5 engine....but they could make much better looking game than crysis...textures dont really impact performance like crysis.

woobabooba

But we are yet to see any evidence of it dominating the Cry Engine 2, and trailers + screens dont cut it. We need to see it in game first hand before making rash judgements.

Crytek outdid iD back in 04, I dont see how they cant keep upping the ante.

I like the fact that Crysis can look realistic WITH COLORS. Just like in real life. SonicWind

KZ2 is supposed to have a stylized look.

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="bungie93"]Can someone tell me how to take screenshots in Crysis? I want to upload pics from my computer to own the PS3 fanboys.bungie93

Thanks, I was actually able to figure out how to do it, I don't know why Crysis makes it so hard.

You have to type into the console:

con_restricted 0

Then you just press F12 to take a screenshot.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"]

Dude's crysis looks better than killzone2.

but engine wise idsoftware tech5 engine is better than crysis aka cryengine 2.

How good idsoftware's game rage looks depends on the artist's skills using john carmacks tech5 engine....but they could make much better looking game than crysis...textures dont really impact performance like crysis.

skrat_01

But we are yet to see any evidence of it dominating the Cry Engine 2, and trailers + screens dont cut it. We need to see it in game first hand before making rash judgements.

Crytek outdid iD back in 04, I dont see how they cant keep upping the ante.

lol crytek's never outdone idsoft.

rage has better graphics trailers have shown it.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Yes its better.

But only one troll says KZ2 looks better.

This thread really isnt necessary.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"]Trust me peoples idsoftware's rage on max settings will own crysis.woobabooba

The CryEngine 2 and Crysis is a beast on its own, and doesent rely on things like MegaTextures.

lol DUDE IDSOFTWARE'S TECH5 ENGINE IS MORE ADVANCED THAN CRYENGINE 2.

look at this pic crysis is already showing it's age

Nothing is perfect, Every game that ever existed had at least 1 or 2 graphical blemishes.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Yes its better.

But only one troll says KZ2 looks better.

This thread really isnt necessary.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"]Trust me peoples idsoftware's rage on max settings will own crysis.woobabooba

The CryEngine 2 and Crysis is a beast on its own, and doesent rely on things like MegaTextures.

lol DUDE IDSOFTWARE'S TECH5 ENGINE IS MORE ADVANCED THAN CRYENGINE 2.

look at this pic crysis is already showing it's age

If you understood the Crysis Editor, you would know that textures vary on the user who makes it. This pic is from a user made map. The user obviously used a low res texture for the mountain side, because said user was new to the cryengine editor. I would know, I downloaded the map, and the user even said it was his first map.

There are high res textures and low res textures in the editor. I think you can figure it out from here.

Crysis looks mesmerizing!

But how many people have actually said this? It can't be more than 1 or 2 rabid fanboys.

Again we have YET to see the final quality of KZ2.

Anyway there is no doubt that Crysis is one of the most visually sutnning games and its BEST advantage is its setting i.e. an island with big green,lush jungles.Palm trees with big green beautiful leaves.I would like to see Crysis warehouse pics go head to head with KZ2s pics.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="woobabooba"]

Dude's crysis looks better than killzone2.

but engine wise idsoftware tech5 engine is better than crysis aka cryengine 2.

How good idsoftware's game rage looks depends on the artist's skills using john carmacks tech5 engine....but they could make much better looking game than crysis...textures dont really impact performance like crysis.

woobabooba

But we are yet to see any evidence of it dominating the Cry Engine 2, and trailers + screens dont cut it. We need to see it in game first hand before making rash judgements.

Crytek outdid iD back in 04, I dont see how they cant keep upping the ante.

lol crytek's never outdone idsoft.

rage has better graphics trailers have shown it.

RAGE has a lot weaker graphics than Crysis, it's not even close. Now it might be consoles that are holding ID back, but whatever the reason is, the fact remains that RAGE is inferior graphicaly to Crysis

Again we have YET to see the final quality of KZ2.

Anyway there is no doubt that Crysis is one of the most visually sutnning games and its BEST advantage is its setting i.e. an island with big green,lush jungles.Palm trees with big green beautiful leaves.I would like to see Crysis warehouse pics go head to head with KZ2s pics.

lesner87

I don't have any Killzone 2 Warehouse pics but here's some Crysis Warhead ones:

Keep in mind those pics were sized down from 1680x1050 to 640x400, they are on Gamer settings, and there's no Anti-Alias on them.

[QUOTE="woobabooba"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="woobabooba"]

Dude's crysis looks better than killzone2.

but engine wise idsoftware tech5 engine is better than crysis aka cryengine 2.

How good idsoftware's game rage looks depends on the artist's skills using john carmacks tech5 engine....but they could make much better looking game than crysis...textures dont really impact performance like crysis.

AdrianWerner

But we are yet to see any evidence of it dominating the Cry Engine 2, and trailers + screens dont cut it. We need to see it in game first hand before making rash judgements.

Crytek outdid iD back in 04, I dont see how they cant keep upping the ante.

lol crytek's never outdone idsoft.

rage has better graphics trailers have shown it.

RAGE has a lot weaker graphics than Crysis, it's not even close. Now it might be consoles that are holding ID back, but whatever the reason is, the fact remains that RAGE is inferior graphicaly to Crysis

false

false

woobabooba

[QUOTE="lesner87"]

Again we have YET to see the final quality of KZ2.

Anyway there is no doubt that Crysis is one of the most visually sutnning games and its BEST advantage is its setting i.e. an island with big green,lush jungles.Palm trees with big green beautiful leaves.I would like to see Crysis warehouse pics go head to head with KZ2s pics.

3ggman

I don't have any Killzone 2 Warehouse pics but here's some Crysis Warhead ones:

Keep in mind those pics were sized down from 1680x1050 to 640x400, they are on Gamer settings, and there's no Anti-Alias on them.

To me it looks just as good as FEAR.

But once Crysis goes open we all know that FEAR is FAR FROM REACHING IT ! So main advantage of Crysis is because of its setting.Besides if Crysis is possible on consoles near to high settings on a PC why are we all fighting ? Its useless !

So main advantage of Crysis is because of its setting.

lesner87

When CryEngine2 is doing much less resource-intensive city settings...well:

Well...making good looking level in Crysis setting takes a lot more hardware power than making a city-like KZ2 setting.

When CryEngine2 is doing much less resource-intensive city settings...well:

AdrianWerner

It does require RAW power only when its NOT optimized properly.When IT is optimized properly it does require power but not as much.Crysis is poorly optimized for high end graphics.We all know that.

About that TEA CUP demo they presented here are a few pics which look NOT better but just as good :

I am not trying to prove that theres anything better than Crysis on Consoles but just trying to say that there are games which look just as good,only difference is their setting.Crysis DOES get the advantage on an island.

Besides if Cryengine 2 or Crysis can be ported to consoles in a very good (FAR FROM UGLY) playable quality why should we worry ? Read this :

An interview with Crytek's Engine Business Manager, Harald Seeley, revealed that the company expects the console versions to "look like they're running at high settings, or nearly high settings, on a PC."

"The surprising thing has been how well the consoles can perform visually, once this tailoring is in place. We expect the final outcome will result in games that look like they're running at high settings, or nearly high settings, on a PC. Actually, we found it as much or more challenging to address the memory limitations of the consoles when converting our current AI system, as we did while converting our rendering engine or physics system, which was not something you might have expected at the start."

http://www.psu.com/Cry-Engine-2-on-consoles-look-nearly-identical-to-PC--a0003305-p0.php

[QUOTE="3ggman"][QUOTE="lesner87"]

Again we have YET to see the final quality of KZ2.

Anyway there is no doubt that Crysis is one of the most visually sutnning games and its BEST advantage is its setting i.e. an island with big green,lush jungles.Palm trees with big green beautiful leaves.I would like to see Crysis warehouse pics go head to head with KZ2s pics.

lesner87

I don't have any Killzone 2 Warehouse pics but here's some Crysis Warhead ones:

Keep in mind those pics were sized down from 1680x1050 to 640x400, they are on Gamer settings, and there's no Anti-Alias on them.

To me it looks just as good as FEAR.

I've played through all of FEAR and I can assure you that Crysis warehouses look much much better than FEAR's. Or are you talking about Project Origin?

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It does require RAW power only when its NOT optimized properly.When IT is optimized properly it does require power but not as much.Crysis is poorly optimized for high end graphics.We all know that.

lesner87

And Crysis isn't "poorly optimised", it could be optimised more (and that's what Warhead does), but the main reason why it runs slower than other games is because it's a lot more advanced and has a lot more to display than other games

and no...GTA4 and AC doesn't look anywhere near the level of tea cup demo

[QUOTE="lesner87"][

It does require RAW power only when its NOT optimized properly.When IT is optimized properly it does require power but not as much.Crysis is poorly optimized for high end graphics.We all know that.

AdrianWerner

And Crysis isn't "poorly optimised", it could be optimised more (and that's what Warhead does), but the main reason why it runs slower than other games is because it's a lot more advanced and has a lot more to display than other games

I wasnt comparing in jungle to cities.I was saying that when its optimized it does still require good amount of raw power but NOT as much AS UN OPTIMIZED one.I was comparing un optimized with optimized.They make alot of difference you know.If games were not optimized they could have NEVER run on such weak raw power of Consoles.But they do with a very good quality,thats all because of optimization.Ever played GTA IV ?

I've played through all of FEAR and I can assure you that Crysis warehouses look much much better than FEAR's. Or are you talking about Project Origin?3ggman

And i can assure you aswell that FEAR doesnt get left behind in the dust.It does actually keep up with it.With its particle effects,soft shadowing and alot more.I have finished both on high.

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I wasnt comparing in jungle to cities.I was saying that when its optimized it does still require good amount of raw power but NOT as much AS UN OPTIMIZED one.I was comparing un optimized with optimized.They make alot of difference you know.If games were not optimized they could have NEVER run on such weak raw power of Consoles.But they do with a very good quality,thats all because of optimization.Ever played GTA IV ?

lesner87

And yes I did play GTA4 and it's good looking game, but nothing more

lol DUDE IDSOFTWARE'S TECH5 ENGINE IS MORE ADVANCED THAN CRYENGINE 2.

look at this pic crysis is already showing it's age

http://i38.tinypic.com/jhvjmw.jpg

woobabooba

This is a bullshot of Rage. Whos your daddy now?

[QUOTE="lesner87"][

I wasnt comparing in jungle to cities.I was saying that when its optimized it does still require good amount of raw power but NOT as much AS UN OPTIMIZED one.I was comparing un optimized with optimized.They make alot of difference you know.If games were not optimized they could have NEVER run on such weak raw power of Consoles.But they do with a very good quality,thats all because of optimization.Ever played GTA IV ?

AdrianWerner

And yes I did play GTA4 and it's good looking game, but nothing more

Nothing less either :) .

[QUOTE="3ggman"]I've played through all of FEAR and I can assure you that Crysis warehouses look much much better than FEAR's. Or are you talking about Project Origin?lesner87

And i can assure you aswell that FEAR doesnt get left behind in the dust.It does actually keep up with it.With its particle effects,soft shadowing and alot more.I have finished both on high.

Sadly FEA has extremly low polygon count making everything have hard edges. Also indoor its F* ugly compared to Crysis.

i am very skeptical of some of those shots cos i play crysis on max settings on 1042x768 resolution and it looks nowhere near as goodsuperjim42

No you are just amazed of how good Crysis looks, play it on very high or play first to begin with. All of those, my screenshots legit 100%, period.

Also Stalker looks way better than KZ2.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="woobabooba"]

Dude's crysis looks better than killzone2.

but engine wise idsoftware tech5 engine is better than crysis aka cryengine 2.

How good idsoftware's game rage looks depends on the artist's skills using john carmacks tech5 engine....but they could make much better looking game than crysis...textures dont really impact performance like crysis.

woobabooba

But we are yet to see any evidence of it dominating the Cry Engine 2, and trailers + screens dont cut it. We need to see it in game first hand before making rash judgements.

Crytek outdid iD back in 04, I dont see how they cant keep upping the ante.

lol crytek's never outdone idsoft.

rage has better graphics trailers have shown it.

Far Cry was a more visually impressive game than Doom 3, even though Both are astounding.

Besides Crysis Warhead is simply in a leauge of its own currently, though it will be interesting to see how Rage turns out. If the recent videos indicate its not about to topple warhead though...

and what up with all those disgusting jaggies in those crysis screenshots?McdonaIdsGuy

Lol? someone who hypes sub720p Killzone 2 talk about jaggies?

Not every person who capture image from crysis use nice resolution or a-aliasing