Top 15 full-retail exclusive meta-scores for each platform averaged.

So lets gather all of the Lemming damage control data.

1) Sales are what determine a good game.

Well that settles it, Wii Fit is the best game this generation.

2) Exclusives don't matter, I only play mutli-platform games.

Do you think the reason for that might be because you have no other option? No exclusives to play? ;)

3) All I see are lists and numbers. Lists and numbers are meaningless.

Lol, k.

4) Who cares about about differences in percentages?

Obviously not Lemmings, considering their console of choice is rock bottom. :)

5) But, but, why are you even comparing systems anyways? What is the point??

Ever heard of a place called..... System Wars?

6) Gosh, why don't you just shut up you stupid ass wipe! Gosh, you are just so dumb! Ugh!!

U mad? Brah?

2) Exclusives don't matter, I only play mutli-platform games.

Do you think the reason for that might be because you have no other option? No exclusives to play? arkephonic

I own a PS3, Xbox 360 and PC. Exclusives just aren't THAT important anymore. Welcome to the multiplatform age.

Alan Wake is still a MS exclusive. Also MLB the Show is on the psp so take that off the list! Oh the PS3 is still #3. :lol:

3) All I see are lists and numbers. Lists and numbers are meaningless.arkephonic

All we need to make this thread complete is LoosingEnds to come in and tell us all how Fable Journey, Project Ryse and Draco are going to save the 360.

Alan Wake is still a MS exclusive. Also MLB the Show is on the psp so take that off the list! Oh the PS3 is still #3. :lol:

xhawk27

His little list goes to **** now.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]3) All I see are lists and numbers. Lists and numbers are meaningless.soulitane

The text is all right here, buddy! For each score listed, there are dozens of fully written reviews. Take your time to read it all........ Don't come back until you've read each and every one! :)

Alan Wake is still a MS exclusive. Also MLB the Show is on the psp so take that off the list! Oh the PS3 is still #3. :lol:

xhawk27

Was that just the biggest contradiction I ever read?

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]3) All I see are lists and numbers. Lists and numbers are meaningless.arkephonic

The text is all right here, buddy! For each score listed, there are dozens of fully written reviews. Take your time to read it all........ Don't come back until you're read each and every one! :)

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Alan Wake is still a MS exclusive. Also MLB the Show is on the psp so take that off the list! Oh the PS3 is still #3. :lol:

arkephonic

Was that just the biggest contradiction I ever read?

Also you forgot to include the Gunstringer! :lol: Still you have to include games on the 360 first so put back Alan Wake.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] This one is correct, numbers without the text to back them up are completely meaningless. Also averaging unrelated scores proves nothing.soulitane

The text is all right here, buddy! For each score listed, there are dozens of fully written reviews. Take your time to read it all........ Don't come back until you're read each and every one! :)

Stocks rise and fall because of Gamerankings.com. Developers get the green light or red light on new projects based on the scores their games get on Gamerankings.com. Developers have incentives in their contracts based on if they reach a certain mark on Gamerankings.com. Development studios can literally go under if they don't meet certain criteria on Gamerankings.com.

Yeah, pretty pointless. I'll tell you what's pointless, your opinion.

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

The text is all right here, buddy! For each score listed, there are dozens of fully written reviews. Take your time to read it all........ Don't come back until you're read each and every one! :)

arkephonic

Stocks rise and fall because of Gamerankings.com. Developers get the green light or red light on new projects based on the scores their games get on Gamerankings.com. Developers have incentives in their contracts based on if they reach a certain mark on Gamerankings.com. Development studios can literally go under if they don't meet certain criteria on Gamerankings.com.

Yeah, pretty pointless. I'll tell you what's pointless, your opinion.

P.S. you need to take the three MLB games off the list for the PS3.

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

The text is all right here, buddy! For each score listed, there are dozens of fully written reviews. Take your time to read it all........ Don't come back until you're read each and every one! :)

arkephonic

Stocks rise and fall because of Gamerankings.com. Developers get the green light or red light on new projects based on the scores their games get on Gamerankings.com. Developers have incentives in their contracts based on if they reach a certain mark on Gamerankings.com. Development studios can literally go under if they don't meet certain criteria on Gamerankings.com.

Yeah, pretty pointless. I'll tell you what's pointless, your opinion.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Hooray numbers with very little meaning. lordlors

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] My point still stands, your thread isn't about the text, you just posted scores. Then you averaged the scores for games that aren't even related, which is ultimately pointless due to different genres having different standards. In the end the scores are useless and tell people next to nothing about the games, if you want to compare the quality of the system's libraries why not actually argue about the games rather than just post arbitrary numbers?soulitane

Stocks rise and fall because of Gamerankings.com. Developers get the green light or red light on new projects based on the scores their games get on Gamerankings.com. Developers have incentives in their contracts based on if they reach a certain mark on Gamerankings.com. Development studios can literally go under if they don't meet certain criteria on Gamerankings.com.

Yeah, pretty pointless. I'll tell you what's pointless, your opinion.

Because if I copied and pasted all the reviews, it would be like 20 pages. Go read the reviews if you want to see the context behind the scores, no one is stopping you. You're just allowing your ignorance and laziness to take over.

PS3 wins.

I just need to know why I should care. I consider the thread a pointless waste of time/effort until then.

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Stocks rise and fall because of Gamerankings.com. Developers get the green light or red light on new projects based on the scores their games get on Gamerankings.com. Developers have incentives in their contracts based on if they reach a certain mark on Gamerankings.com. Development studios can literally go under if they don't meet certain criteria on Gamerankings.com.

Yeah, pretty pointless. I'll tell you what's pointless, your opinion.

arkephonic

Because if I copied and pasted all the reviews, it would be like 20 pages. Go read the reviews if you want to see the context behind the scores, no one is stopping you. You're just allowing your ignorance and laziness to take over.

This tells me that if you only play excluisves, you lose out on the best gaming.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] Yet how does hat tell one anything about the game? It doesn't, it says that reviewers liked the game or not but a simple score doesn't say why it was good or not. This industry revolves around scores more than that of any other entertainment, I never denied that. You though haven't given me a good reason as to how scores alone are god at comparing games. Pretty much the same as your thread yesterday how you weren't able to back up your points.soulitane

Because if I copied and pasted all the reviews, it would be like 20 pages. Go read the reviews if you want to see the context behind the scores, no one is stopping you. You're just allowing your ignorance and laziness to take over.

Lol, oh my God. You are dense, my friend.

Those scores exist for a reason. The reason is in the context of the reviews. The context of the reviews can be found in the link I gave you. Those scores don't just exist for no reason.

Do you also wonder why Americans have freedom of speech? The right to bear arms? Why does the constitution exist? Well, go read a history book and find out.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

1. The first 3 games on that list are on pc, and they look signficnatly better.

Ravensmash

I'm not going to get banned by posting pictures here, so google it and realise i'm not "reaching".

Or are you trolling me?

I can't believe a lot of hermits trying to take away an exclusive from the Wii due to quasi-legal emulation.Ravensmash

You're acting like it doens't exist. If I own a Wii and I have those games, is it really wrong for me to boot them up on my PC and have them look way better?

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Because if I copied and pasted all the reviews, it would be like 20 pages. Go read the reviews if you want to see the context behind the scores, no one is stopping you. You're just allowing your ignorance and laziness to take over.

arkephonic

Lol, oh my God. You are dense, my friend.

Those scores exist for a reason. The reason is in the context of the reviews. The context of the reviews can be found in the link I gave you. Those scores don't just exist for no reason.

Do you also wonder why Americans have freedom of speech? The right to bear arms? Why does the constitution exist? Well, go read a history book and find out.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] What have I said that i ignorant? Please do tell. You made a thread about comparing the top quality games on each system and I showed you how your logic is flawed. Instead of coming up with a rebuttal you just threw a little fit. Scores alone are no way to compare games, there is literally nothing in a score that tells you about the games.soulitane

Lol, oh my God. You are dense, my friend.

Those scores exist for a reason. The reason is in the context of the reviews. The context of the reviews can be found in the link I gave you. Those scores don't just exist for no reason.

Do you also wonder why Americans have freedom of speech? The right to bear arms? Why does the constitution exist? Well, go read a history book and find out.

So now you want me to explain to you how Metacritic works?

Lol, get outta here.

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol, oh my God. You are dense, my friend.

Those scores exist for a reason. The reason is in the context of the reviews. The context of the reviews can be found in the link I gave you. Those scores don't just exist for no reason.

Do you also wonder why Americans have freedom of speech? The right to bear arms? Why does the constitution exist? Well, go read a history book and find out.

arkephonic

So now you want me to explain to you how Metacritic works?

Lol, get outta here.

Not surprised that the 360 is in last place.

Not surprised that the 360 is in last place.

anshul89

Are you looking at the sales report upside down? :?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] They exist to be used in conjunction with the written review, without the written part they are meaningless. Your opening post has no written reviews just average numbers from lots of different sources that use lots of different standards for reviewing there games. Take giant bomb for instance, they don't use the 20 point scale like gamespot, they use a 5 point scale. How does that fit into an average? They make it fit by giving say a 4 out of 5 a score of 8 when it really doesn't mean that at all. Like I said, many sites with different standards averaged account for nothing. Like I said in my first post, averaging unrelated scores accounts for nothing. Why would I care about the history of a country I'm not from? Bringing up points to try and insult someone doesn't make using averaged scores a good way of comparing games.soulitane

So now you want me to explain to you how Metacritic works?

Lol, get outta here.

A rebuttal for what, exactly? If you want to talk about games, then talk about them. You actually expect me to copy and paste every written review on here? That's borderline ridiculous. No, that is ridiculous. You're ridiculous. You say that the scores have no meaning because there's no context behind them, then I link you to the context and you play dumb.

I don't have the patience, nor do I feel like spending the time conversing with people who play dumb.

The links are provided, the context is there, I don't see why you're still asking me questions. Then you ask me to explain to you how the Metacritic scaling works?

Dude, do you need people to hold your hand for everything? No offense, but I'm not gonna waste my time educating you. Do it yourself.

OP still hasn't removed the three MLB games for the PS3. After you redue the math...after 6 years the PC, Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii are all within 1% average (top 15 games) of each other. I bet it's even closer if you took a top 20 average.

Not sure what conclusion to make other than exclusives appear to be even in terms of ratings for all systems.

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

So now you want me to explain to you how Metacritic works?

Lol, get outta here.

arkephonic

A rebuttal for what, exactly? If you want to talk about games, then talk about them. You actually expect me to copy and paste every written review on here? That's borderline ridiculous. No, that is ridiculous. You're ridiculous. You say that the scores have no meaning because there's no context behind them, then I link you to the context and you play dumb.

I don't have the patience, nor do I feel like spending the time conversing with people who play dumb.

The links are provided, the context is there, I don't see why you're still asking me questions. Then you ask me to explain to you how the Metacritic scaling works?

Dude, do you need people to hold your hand for everything? No offense, but I'm not gonna waste my time educating you. Do it yourself.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] I'm liking the part where you gave a rebuttal.soulitane

A rebuttal for what, exactly? If you want to talk about games, then talk about them. You actually expect me to copy and paste every written review on here? That's borderline ridiculous. No, that is ridiculous. You're ridiculous. You say that the scores have no meaning because there's no context behind them, then I link you to the context and you play dumb.

I don't have the patience, nor do I feel like spending the time conversing with people who play dumb.

The links are provided, the context is there, I don't see why you're still asking me questions. Then you ask me to explain to you how the Metacritic scaling works?

Dude, do you need people to hold your hand for everything? No offense, but I'm not gonna waste my time educating you. Do it yourself.

Review = Appraising something critically

Score = A number or letter indicating quality

Average = Relating to or constituting the most frequent value in a distribution.

I don't work for free, so that's all I'm gonna teach you for the day.

You have seen spreadsheets on System Wars before, right? You're acting like this is something new.

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

A rebuttal for what, exactly? If you want to talk about games, then talk about them. You actually expect me to copy and paste every written review on here? That's borderline ridiculous. No, that is ridiculous. You're ridiculous. You say that the scores have no meaning because there's no context behind them, then I link you to the context and you play dumb.

I don't have the patience, nor do I feel like spending the time conversing with people who play dumb.

The links are provided, the context is there, I don't see why you're still asking me questions. Then you ask me to explain to you how the Metacritic scaling works?

Dude, do you need people to hold your hand for everything? No offense, but I'm not gonna waste my time educating you. Do it yourself.

arkephonic

Review = Appraising something critically

Score = A number or letter indicating quality

Average = Relating to or constituting the most frequent value in a distribution.

I don't work for free, so that's all I'm gonna teach you for the day.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] Again with the petty insult, it's really not becoming of you and adds nothing to your argument. I've been talking about your thread and the flawed logic used in it and the flawed logic of using averaged scores. Even with all the reviews that doesn't make the average any more relevant which you have yet to prove how an average of many scores is in the slightest way relevant when comparing games Also when did I ask you to explain how metacritic works, since I don't remember asking any such question and yet you call me dumb. The only question I asked in that post was rhetorical and I answered it myself, apart from the last sentence which was irrelevant to my argument.soulitane

Review = Appraising something critically

Score = A number or letter indicating quality

Average = Relating to or constituting the most frequent value in a distribution.

I don't work for free, so that's all I'm gonna teach you for the day.

Spreadsheets are nothing new in system wars. There are tons of people with this exact sort of data used in spreadsheets that they have saved. If you have a problem with review scores and spreadsheets, that's not my problem. This is the last time I will be responding to you, by the way :)

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Review = Appraising something critically

Score = A number or letter indicating quality

Average = Relating to or constituting the most frequent value in a distribution.

I don't work for free, so that's all I'm gonna teach you for the day.

arkephonic

Spreadsheets are nothing new in system wars. There are tons of people with this exact sort of data used in spreadsheets that they have saved. If you have a problem with review scores and spreadsheets, that's not my problem. This is the last time I will be responding to you, by the way :)

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"] Oh lord you really do reach don't you :lol:

Jankarcop

I'm not going to get banned by posting pictures here, so google it and realise i'm not "reaching".

Or are you trolling me?

I can't believe a lot of hermits trying to take away an exclusive from the Wii due to quasi-legal emulation.Ravensmash

You're acting like it doens't exist. If I own a Wii and I have those games, is it really wrong for me to boot them up on my PC and have them look way better?

OP still hasn't removed the three MLB games for the PS3. After you redue the math...after 6 years the PC, Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii are all within 1% average (top 15 games) of each other. I bet it's even closer if you took a top 20 average.

Not sure what conclusion to make other than exclusives appear to be even in terms of ratings for all systems.

KC_Hokie

You're becoming quite the annoyance.

The Xbox 360 has the best retail library of the three consoles.
The Xbox 360 has the best downloadable library of the three consoles.

There is no reason not to include downloadable games when talking about Metacritic considering they appear in their yearly reports, this isn't the SW metagame.

THE COWS HAVE BEEN FUUCKING OWNED.

Only idiots compare metacritic scores.

Only idiots compare metacritic scores.

SW__Troll

Why you gotta insult me? ;(

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

So then I take it you live in North Korea? You prefer a dictatorship?

Heck, I'll take a democracy 8 days a week.

arkephonic

Ehh, after guys like Gerstmann and Kasavin left, I'm pretty sure no one takes the reviews here seriously.

All we need to make this thread complete is LoosingEnds to come in and tell us all how Fable Journey, Project Ryse and Draco are going to save the 360.

arkephonic

The mere fact that only one of those machines can play MGS4 makes it clear it the Godliest of all platforms :PZaibach

Oh look arkephonic has started yet another 360 bashing thread that plays with variables to "win" his "argument" what a big surprise.. :roll:

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]The mere fact that only one of those machines can play MGS4 makes it clear it the Godliest of all platforms :Pblackace

great threadarkephonic

you touched alot of lems in their private place, made them feel emotional and caused massive damage. Collective lem anger and frustration directed at you but it ain't your fault you are just doing what lems have done at the beginning of this gen. lems didn't seem to have a problem in 2007 when their faction made up "teh spread sheet"and concluded that PS3 didn't have any games, now they are all crying and saying how scores don't matter and sales are the only thing that counts.

It's clear lemsdon't have any real arguments here in SW, they only know how to defend MS but their arguments hold no weight. Lems don't even care about games now...it's pretty clear they only want the american company to win--their arguments are all misleading and or lying to create an impression that MS is the better company and their console is the best. There is no point to even debate with them at this point.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]The mere fact that only one of those machines can play MGS4 makes it clear it the Godliest of all platforms :Pblackace

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]The mere fact that only one of those machines can play MGS4 makes it clear it the Godliest of all platforms :Pblackace

I challenge you and anyone else on this board to finish MGS4 in 4 hours....

The big boss speed run requires 5.5 hours. 4 hours cannot be done.

People who say this are talking sh1t

great threadarkephonic

you touched alot of lems in their private place, made them feel emotional and caused massive damage. Collective lem anger and frustration directed at you but it ain't your fault you are just doing what lems have done at the beginning of this gen. lems didn't seem to have a problem in 2007 when their faction made up "teh spread sheet"and concluded that PS3 didn't have any games, now they are all crying and saying how scores don't matter and sales are the only thing that counts.

It's clear lemsdon't have any real arguments here in SW, they only know how to defend MS but their arguments hold no weight. Lems don't even care about games now...it's pretty clear they only want the american company to win--their arguments are all misleading and or lying to create an impression that MS is the better company and their console is the best. There is no point to even debate with them at this point.

casharmy

Just when i thought this thread couldn't get any dumber, casharmy shows up. Good job.