Top 3 Developers of ALL TIME. A halo lovers opinion. (56k death) UPDATED!

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#1 Rob2223
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BEFORE i start. I dont want to keep typing "IMO" so keep note, everything below is IMO.

3rd place goes to: TIE (dont worry, its the only tie) Epic Games, and Valve Software






Epic games created one of (if not, THE) most used game engines of all time (correct me if im wrong) the Unreal engine. LOTS of devs use this engine to create great games. Unreal is a widely used, and amazing game engine that keeps evolviong.



They've also made a multiplayer experience like no other, with its super fast paced, fps action, Unreal Tournament.It got alot of people into playingmainly multiplayer FPS.



Now, a new series they've created is getting rave reviews, and has sold millions on the Xbox 360, and soon will on the PC, Gears of War, this game uses an amazing cover system, along with amazing graphical, and physical effects. Amazing multiplayer.



Valve, also has made some amazing feats in gaming, Counter strike. argueably the most well known FPS, it had a basic FPS ****that people loved, kill the other team. Along with user created maps, mods, and whatever else you can think of, the possibilities were endless. this is the FPS.



not to mention Valve creating one of the best singleplayer FPS experiences of all time, theHalf-Life series. I love this series, the singleplayer is amazing, the weapons are VERY cool, the story rocks, gameplay is almost perfect, and the mods, maps, and weapons people created only sweeten the deal.

AND the Source engine is very widely used

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and now, one of the most innovative ideas ive seen, portal. this game looks amazing. a puzzle fps game. where portals are your means of transportation, shooting one portal, then the other to move through them. i love this idea, and cant WAIT to play it.



2nd place goes to:




Nintendo

nintendo knows how to make games. First, the game that brought alot of us into gaming, and did for me. The little plumber that was in all of our childhoods, and probably the most well known icon in gaming. The Super Mario Series.







next, the adventure game, that brought me into the genre, the game that so many people loved, getting amazing reviews. this open ended adventure game was fun on every level Legend of Zelda



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#3 Rob2223
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NUMBER 1

1st place goes to.....


RareWare

imo, most deserving of the number one spot, RareWare. they may have gone downhill since the n64 days, but those n64 days were the best in my gaming life.

Banjo Kazooie, my favourite platformer ever. lots say it copied mario, but i dont think so. the second one brought in amazing multiplayer to go with its almost perfect singleplayer. i love this series.



next, the Console FPS that birthed them all, Goldeneye 64. this game was a masterpeice, challenging singleplayer campaign, with awesome level design, then the 4 player splitscreen multiplayer that defined multiplayer FPS gaming (for me).



next, another FPS that took everything to "a whole noffa level" Perfect Dark. it had a long campaign, the amazing multiplayer from goldeneye, plus added Bots. with an amazing amount of weapons, with innovative secondary functions. this game rocked.



and now, the game that made gaming a little more humourous, while at the same time a little more fun. Conkers Bad Fur Day that rude little squirrel with attitude, making team combat more popular in consoles, adding strange gametypes that everyone loved. one of the best combinations of singleplayer and multiplayer around



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#4 Rob2223
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hounourable mentions:

1. Bioware corp.



2. Capcom



3. Sega



4. Blizzard Entertainment



5. Irrartional Games



6. Konami

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#5 Rob2223
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reserved (just in case)
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#6 Wahoo2k
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think it's also worth a mention that valve created the source engine as that has been used in making other games as well.

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#7 viralhunter
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can you at least tell us who the others are?
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#8 Greyhound222
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Umm,finish please?
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#9 ParkCarsHere
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can you at least tell us who the others are?viralhunter

Yeah! Then the flaming can begin... *sigh*

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#10 smokeydabear076
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I am going to laugh if Bungie is on there.
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#11 x_boyfriend
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I've a strange feeling Bungie's #1. hahaha.
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I am going to laugh if Bungie is on there.smokeydabear076

Lol, you know it will be though. Look at his sig. As soon as he says "Bungie" this thread loses all credibility as "unbiased."

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I am going to laugh if Bungie is on there.ParkCarsHere

Lol, you know it will be though. Look at his sig. As soon as he says "Bungie" this thread loses all credibility as "unbiased."

I am just waiting for it.
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#14 LastSamurai14
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All devs suck. It's the quality of the game that matters, not who made it.
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#15 killermoe_617
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Judging by your sig... I'm guessingBungie will either be #1 or 2. Am right? :)
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#16 nintendofreak_2
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I'll bet Blizzard will be there. Any takers?
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I am going to laugh if Bungie is on there.smokeydabear076

I dont see why it would be that big of deal, nearly all their game series has a AAA game in it.

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#18 Mardil
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Blizzard's gotta be #1. If not, it is definitely biased.
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What bethesda is not there when every game they made is AAA (GS can kiss my behind es3 is only 8.7 wtf) ???
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#20 joe_g_patton
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Epic, BioWare, and Valve. OK, moving on...
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I am going to laugh if Bungie is on there.justforlotr2004

I dont see why it would be that big of deal, nearly all their game series has a AAA game in it.

Doesn't mean they are the best. They are basically only known for one game these days and that is Halo.
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#22 Sir-Marwin105
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Bioware better be on that list.:x
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#23 Finale-
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1. Original Squaresoft.
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#24 Verge_6
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As long as you put Bethesda, Irrational,or Bioware in that list, I'm fine
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#25 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I am going to laugh if Bungie is on there.smokeydabear076

I dont see why it would be that big of deal, nearly all their game series has a AAA game in it.

Doesn't mean they are the best. They are basically only known for one game these days and that is Halo.

Not saying they are the best, but still it wouldnt be like some random thing as if Bungie is only a one hit wonder. They have made a whole lot of great games before Halo.

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#26 Rob2223
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I am going to laugh if Bungie is on there.smokeydabear076


its not :) dont worry, im not that much of a halo fanboy.
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#27 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I am going to laugh if Bungie is on there.justforlotr2004

I dont see why it would be that big of deal, nearly all their game series has a AAA game in it.

Doesn't mean they are the best. They are basically only known for one game these days and that is Halo.

Not saying they are the best, but still it wouldnt be like some random thing as if Bungie is only a one hit wonder. They have made a whole lot of great games before Halo.

I know Myth and Marathon are great games, but this topic is about the best and Bungie doesn't belong in the Top 3.
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How many times do you guys have to be told that Valve did not develop Counter-Strike? It was a mod that Valve picked up as acommercial product.

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#29 nintendofreak_2
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1. Original Squaresoft. Finale-
I could agree on that.
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#30 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I am going to laugh if Bungie is on there.smokeydabear076

I dont see why it would be that big of deal, nearly all their game series has a AAA game in it.

Doesn't mean they are the best. They are basically only known for one game these days and that is Halo.

Not saying they are the best, but still it wouldnt be like some random thing as if Bungie is only a one hit wonder. They have made a whole lot of great games before Halo.

I know Myth and Marathon are great games, but this topic is about the best and Bungie doesn't belong in the Top 3.

lol I know I realise that, Im just stating that you guys were acting as if they wernt that great when they are but yes they are not the best.

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#31 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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Kojima Productions

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Blizzard or Bungie.
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#33 justforlotr2004
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How many times do you guys have to be told that Valve did not develop Counter-Strike? It was a mod that Valve picked up as acommercial product.

gamer620

Yeah most of what Valve is known for right now was made by the community and bought out.

Portal, CSS, Gmod. None developed by Valve.

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#34 Sir-Marwin105
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Nintendo, nice.
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#35 ParkCarsHere
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Kojima Productions

/thread

Uzumaki_Naruto5

No way. Blizzard, Bioware, Squaresoft... those are (in the case of the original Squaresoft, were) the best developers of all time. Kojima Productions is good, yes, but not the best.

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#36 nintendofreak_2
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Even I wouldn't put Nintendo on #2. Maybe #3 at highest, but not that high on a list.
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#37 ParkCarsHere
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[QUOTE="gamer620"]

How many times do you guys have to be told that Valve did not develop Counter-Strike? It was a mod that Valve picked up as acommercial product.

justforlotr2004

Yeah most of what Valve is known for right now was made by the community and bought out.

Portal, CSS, Gmod. None developed by Valve.

Right. In fact, wasn't Portal just an idea by some interns that they showed Valve and got them to add it to their Steam program? Valve doesn't make half the stuff that they are accredited to making, lol.

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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="gamer620"]

How many times do you guys have to be told that Valve did not develop Counter-Strike? It was a mod that Valve picked up as acommercial product.

ParkCarsHere

Yeah most of what Valve is known for right now was made by the community and bought out.

Portal, CSS, Gmod. None developed by Valve.

Right. In fact, wasn't Portal just an idea by some interns that they showed Valve and got them to add it to their Steam program? Valve doesn't make half the stuff that they are accredited to making, lol.

Yeah it was made by a group of students and once Valve saw it they hired them to come complete the game at Valve as developers. So in a sense Valve did create it, but the ideas were basicly bought out and not really made internally so Im not to sure that would count towards them being great developers or not.

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#40 MyopicCanadian
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Valve should not get credit for Counter-Strike, btw. It was a user-made mod that Valve acquired the license to...
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#41 ginglejangle
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Bioware.

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#42 gamer620
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Valve is responsible for Half Life, Half Life 2 (and episodes) and in a sense Team Fortress 2, despite the fact that team fortress started out as a mod for Quake and turned into a huge deal in Half Life. It is essentially once again Valve commerciallizing on the community, but given itsunique style, i give them the benefit of the doubt.

And as for Bungie, i still consider the Myth Series (with the exception of 3 as it wasn't bungie) to be one of the greatest RTS games ever created. That series still has one of the strongest multiplayer components for an RTS title.

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#43 Heil68
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He says it his opinion...big deal
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#44 Mardil
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RAREWARE? Sure they made some great games but they are dead now...
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#45 smokeydabear076
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He says it his opinion...big dealHeil68
Indeed it is a big deal.
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#46 nintendofreak_2
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RARE?!?!? Come on. They haven't made a great game since the N64 era. Blizzard has always made amazing games.
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#47 Absynthetic
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well in my opinion its

squaresoft/enix for reinventing the RPG with FF7

id for putting the FPS genre on the map with Doom

and nintendo for starting it all with Mario

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#48 Sir-Marwin105
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RARE?!?!? Come on. They haven't made a great game since the N64 era. Blizzard has always made amazing games.nintendofreak_2
Viva Pinata and Kameo disagree with you.
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#49 ParkCarsHere
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Well, while I do think Rare had some great games back in the day, they aren't good right now. That means they were one-hit wonders. Sure, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Banjo Kazooie, and heck, even Conker's Bad Fur Day were great games, what else have they done that was really superb? Not much. Perfect Dark Zero, Viva Pinata, and Kameo were decent games, and yes, I had fun with all three, but they weren't "great" or "amazing." They were just decent.

Blizzard has been making great games from the beginning. The Warcraft and Diablo series, amongst others, have been the best games ever made for a long time. Bioware has also been a great developer for a long time, proving their worth as game developers.

I'm not saying that you're opinion is wrong, since it is your opinion, but in my eyes for a developer to be the best of "all time," they need to consistently make great games. Rareware was good years ago, but now? Not so much. Consistency is the key.

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#50 nintendofreak_2
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Viva Pinata and Kameo disagree with you.Sir-Marwin105
There isn't a Blizzard game out there that doesn't have higher overall ratings than both of those games.