The PC obviously :P
For or against it,It always seems to cause the most butthurt on these boards
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Was No Man's Sky announced last year as not coming to Xbone or this year?
Nintendo creating the most hype at E3 should also be on that list... and flops. The rest can be filled up with resolutions and frame rates.
(Also let's wait for the announcement of the GOTY, that's gonna create butthurt no matter what's chosen)
1. Wii U leading in the exclusive front
2. The stupidity that is GamerGate
3. PS4's sales
4. Bayonetta (although it started in 2012) and Tomb Raider exclusivity (one could add Street Fighter too it, but I don't think the reaction was as bad as Bayonetta and TR's). Adding the former getting a 10
5. Crap, I ran out.
Whelp, seems to me I have never seen the likes of BH over the announcement of RotTR being exclusive to X1, didn't people organize, put out nasty utube facebook stuff and even some involved got death threats, yikes. :P
The one thing I can honestly say that has pissed me off the most is the Tomb Raider deal. I've been playing that multiplatform series on PlayStation since it came out in 1996. Now thanks to Square accepting Microsoft's deal, Tomb Raider may as well be dead to me.
Tomb Raider is coming all platforms though.........
And you must be boycotting Street Fighter V as well.
You don't know that. There is just a timed exclusive deal with the XBox. It could come to XBox and PC and not PS4.
The one thing I can honestly say that has pissed me off the most is the Tomb Raider deal. I've been playing that multiplatform series on PlayStation since it came out in 1996. Now thanks to Square accepting Microsoft's deal, Tomb Raider may as well be dead to me.
Tomb Raider is coming all platforms though.........
And you must be boycotting Street Fighter V as well.
You don't know that. There is just a timed exclusive deal with the XBox. It could come to XBox and PC and not PS4.
Well long as it's multi platform from the get go it doesn't really matter.
If TR wasn't going on PlayStation they'd be shouting about it from the rooftops like they did with Titanfall.
The one thing I can honestly say that has pissed me off the most is the Tomb Raider deal. I've been playing that multiplatform series on PlayStation since it came out in 1996. Now thanks to Square accepting Microsoft's deal, Tomb Raider may as well be dead to me.
So do you think Final Fantasy fans should've acted the way you did over TR when that series went to PlayStation over Nintendo? Last I checked, they more than willingly put up with it.
(inb4 "but N64 cartridges forced Square away", maybe so, but it didn't change the fact that 1) Sony paid for Final Fantasy and 2) the series jumped ship)
The one thing I can honestly say that has pissed me off the most is the Tomb Raider deal. I've been playing that multiplatform series on PlayStation since it came out in 1996. Now thanks to Square accepting Microsoft's deal, Tomb Raider may as well be dead to me.
So do you think Final Fantasy fans should've acted the way you did over TR when that series went to PlayStation over Nintendo? Last I checked, they more than willingly put up with it.
(inb4 "but N64 cartridges forced Square away", maybe so, but it didn't change the fact that 1) Sony paid for Final Fantasy and 2) the series jumped ship)
The series jumped ship because of the format. Cartridges didn't hold much.....CDs do. FF7 was a massive game. Also cartridges cost a lot of money.
Next-gen Tomb Raider exclusively to the Xbox One, HELL YEAH
It's not exclusive....timed exclusive.
The one thing I can honestly say that has pissed me off the most is the Tomb Raider deal. I've been playing that multiplatform series on PlayStation since it came out in 1996. Now thanks to Square accepting Microsoft's deal, Tomb Raider may as well be dead to me.
So do you think Final Fantasy fans should've acted the way you did over TR when that series went to PlayStation over Nintendo? Last I checked, they more than willingly put up with it.
(inb4 "but N64 cartridges forced Square away", maybe so, but it didn't change the fact that 1) Sony paid for Final Fantasy and 2) the series jumped ship)
The series jumped ship because of the format. Cartridges didn't hold much.....CDs do. FF7 was a massive game. Also cartridges cost a lot of money.
That's what I said, hence "forced them away". I brought up Final Fantasy to a PlayStation fan because that console had a ton of "jumpships" especially from Nintendo (and in some cases, SEGA) and Final Fantasy is the de facto example. It doesn't matter if it's a bottleneck, money involved from the competition, or both.
I understand being frustrated that a game isn't going to be on your system of choice (I did it when I found out that Soul Calibur III wasn't going to be on the GameCube, nevermind SC II's GameCube version doing REALLY well in sales). But if you want to play a game on another console that badly: Put up, or shut up! (that's what my sheep bretherin and I have to do when getting games not on Nintendo consoles anyway)
@nintendoboy16: Let's take a look at the 1997 release of FF7 for PS1 and the time frame for technology.
1. Game forums such as this didn't exist yet. If you wanted to publicly rage, you had to write into a magazine and maybe if you were extremely lucky, they would print your rant. You had to wait at least a month for any possible replies.
2. The FF series was only 10 years old on Nintendo and the PS1/N64 era marked the first generation gaming started transitioning to true 3D. More space was needed and the game was already multiple CD's on PS1. In contrast, Tomb Raider will have been multiplatform nearly double that time and both systems are more than capable of handling anything the developer can throw their way.
3. I think what pisses me off more is all the secrecy surrounding the deal as far as details go. You have a massive fanbase spanning three system camps and you're not telling them what's going on with one of their favorite series. If they were to be forthcoming with info, it would have looked better. The transition from Nintendo to PlayStation with FF7 was pretty straight forward from what I remember.
The series jumped ship because of the format. Cartridges didn't hold much.....CDs do. FF7 was a massive game. Also cartridges cost a lot of money.
That's what I said, hence "forced them away". I brought up Final Fantasy to a PlayStation fan because that console had a ton of "jumpships" especially from Nintendo (and in some cases, SEGA) and Final Fantasy is the de facto example. It doesn't matter if it's a bottleneck, money involved from the competition, or both.
I understand being frustrated that a game isn't going to be on your system of choice (I did it when I found out that Soul Calibur III wasn't going to be on the GameCube, nevermind SC II's GameCube version doing REALLY well in sales). But if you want to play a game that badly: Put up, or shut up! (that's what my sheep bretherin and I have to do when getting games not on Nintendo consoles anyway)
The situations are a bit different. Had Nintendo gone with the cd format....FF would have stayed the course. At least for awhile. Depending on sales...they might have gone multi plat but I don't see them abandoning Nintendo. At the time the series still sold consoles as well.
Now TR is a multi plat game....and the last sold better AFAIK on Sony. It was announced for Sony as well....so I can see why fans might get pissed at SE. The reason it changed IS money. That doesn't sit well with fans that are invested in the series. Honestly I can't figure out what SE is accomplishing here. TR isn't a console seller. It's best days are behind it but it does have a dedicated fan base. MS must have thrown a ton of money their way for this.....and even if it ends up on everything else....the luster is generally gone after the initial release so it won't be a big deal...and that's best case scenario. I can see it being MS paying the marketing in return for getting it for a specific time frame...but again....good will is an intangible that does generate money and is hard to win back.
I think the problem with Nintendo and multi plats is they don't generate enough sales for the companies involved in general...too bad Nintendo and SEGA didn't team up. That would have been awesome.
@nintendoboy16: Let's take a look at the 1997 release of FF7 for PS1 and the time frame for technology.
1. Game forums such as this didn't exist yet. If you wanted to publicly rage, you had to write into a magazine and maybe if you were extremely lucky, they would print your rant. You had to wait at least a month for any possible replies.
2. The FF series was only 10 years old on Nintendo and the PS1/N64 era marked the first generation gaming started transitioning to true 3D. More space was needed and the game was already multiple CD's on PS1. In contrast, Tomb Raider will have been multiplatform nearly double that time and both systems are more than capable of handling anything the developer can throw their way.
3. I think what pisses me off more is all the secrecy surrounding the deal as far as details go. You have a massive fanbase spanning three system camps and you're not telling them what's going on with one of their favorite series. If they were to be forthcoming with info, it would have looked better. The transition from Nintendo to PlayStation with FF7 was pretty straight forward from what I remember.
Does that all matter? No, it doesn't. No matter how it goes (again, bottlenecks from the original system and/or money from the competition, it matters not), this shit happens and it's ironic when PlayStation fans are/we're willing to put up with it when it heads a direction they prefer, but yet when it happens to go to another system, the polar opposite happens.
The series jumped ship because of the format. Cartridges didn't hold much.....CDs do. FF7 was a massive game. Also cartridges cost a lot of money.
That's what I said, hence "forced them away". I brought up Final Fantasy to a PlayStation fan because that console had a ton of "jumpships" especially from Nintendo (and in some cases, SEGA) and Final Fantasy is the de facto example. It doesn't matter if it's a bottleneck, money involved from the competition, or both.
I understand being frustrated that a game isn't going to be on your system of choice (I did it when I found out that Soul Calibur III wasn't going to be on the GameCube, nevermind SC II's GameCube version doing REALLY well in sales). But if you want to play a game that badly: Put up, or shut up! (that's what my sheep bretherin and I have to do when getting games not on Nintendo consoles anyway)
The situations are a bit different. Had Nintendo gone with the cd format....FF would have stayed the course. At least for awhile. Depending on sales...they might have gone multi plat but I don't see them abandoning Nintendo. At the time the series still sold consoles as well.
Now TR is a multi plat game....and the last sold better AFAIK on Sony. It was announced for Sony as well....so I can see why fans might get pissed at SE. The reason it changed IS money. That doesn't sit well with fans that are invested in the series. Honestly I can't figure out what SE is accomplishing here. TR isn't a console seller. It's best days are behind it but it does have a dedicated fan base. MS must have thrown a ton of money their way for this.....and even if it ends up on everything else....the luster is generally gone after the initial release so it won't be a big deal...and that's best case scenario. I can see it being MS paying the marketing in return for getting it for a specific time frame...but again....good will is an intangible that does generate money and is hard to win back.
I think the problem with Nintendo and multi plats is they don't generate enough sales for the companies involved in general...too bad Nintendo and SEGA didn't team up. That would have been awesome.
Doesn't stray from my main point as it's hypocritical all the same. If you're willing to play a game on another console (or wait for a belated port), then deal with it. These companies are still doing it and there's no sign of stopping, no matter how "good" or "evil" their reasons are.
@nintendoboy16: How old were you when that happened? Judging from your reaction to it, I'd say you did act as I did with Tomb Raider. So you answered your original question.
When what happened?
When Final Fantasy VII was announced for PlayStation? Didn't really pay attention to other consoles at the time as I was a young kid playing his SNES. Hell, I didn't even know Final Fantasy existed until a neighbor had a PSOne with FFVII. Just looking back at all the praise it got and how much it sold pretty much implied that there was little to no protest to the series jumping ship.
When Soul Calibur III was announced? I was in Jr. High at the time and it was around that time frame my siblings and I got our GameCube with Metroid Prime (bundled) AND Soul Calibur II as our first game. I first read the announcement in an issue of Game Informer and while it didn't sit well with me at all I never went as far as to say the Soul series was "dead to me." In fact, I had a chance at buying the game when I got my own PlayStation 2, but instead, I ended up buying James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing and Gauntlet: Dark Legacy from a store called FYE (the latter was the first PlayStation 2 game I ever played, so I had to have that one in my collection), with The Hobbit and Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy the following day from a pawn shop. From the criticisms I understand of Soul Calibur III, it seemed like XBOX and GameCube fans weren't missing much and I made the better choice (I'll still add it to my collection someday).
I'd put Xbox One outperforming PS4 on AC Unity at the top of that list, it's been the invisible crux of the anti-Ubisoft sentiment.
Ps4 flopping in games so hard that the cows have to hide behind sales.
Funny reminds me of the Wii, except unlike that casual toybox, PS4 is a console designed for real gamers.
Definitely going with the butthurt of pc beggars.
On top of breaking the 40,000 sig mark for a port of The Last of Us,
https://www.change.org/p/%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B5%D0%BC-%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%80%D1%83-the-last-of-us-%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F-%D0%BF%D0%BA-port-the-last-of-us-on-pc
their rectums really bled when Bloodborne was announced PS4 exclusives.
https://www.change.org/p/from-software-release-bloodborne-for-the-personalized-computing-platform
Ps4 flopping in games so hard that the cows have to hide behind sales.
Funny reminds me of the Wii, except unlike that casual toybox, PS4 is a console designed for real gamers.
It does remind me of the wii. Cows boasting about how many games they have even though 3/4 of the library is shovelware, a term thrown around all the time when the Wii was pumping other systems in sales.
1. going on year 2 and the graphics gap between consoles and high end pcs is continuing to grow in consoles favor
2. driveclub
3. going on year 2 and the graphics gap between consoles and high end pcs is continuing to grow in consoles favor
4. pcars lol
5. going on year 2 and the graphics gap between consoles and high end pcs is continuing to grow in consoles favor
1. going on year 2 and the graphics gap between consoles and high end pcs is continuing to grow in consoles favor
2. driveclub
3. going on year 2 and the graphics gap between consoles and high end pcs is continuing to grow in consoles favor
4. pcars lol
5. going on year 2 and the graphics gap between consoles and high end pcs is continuing to grow in consoles favor
Resolution and frame rate are not included in your "gap" right? What about physics and AA?
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