Twilight Princess (Wii) vs Ocarina of Time (n64) vote

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#101 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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It depends.If you compare them how they were at their time,OoT might win to most people,but if you play them both now,you may find Twilight Princess better.It's all a matter of opinion.
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#102 flclisfun
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[QUOTE="Game_Addict247"]

I suppose Ocarina of Time was better for its time. HOWEVER, if you play either one for the first time, you won't magically transport back to 1998 nor conform to its standards. As unreasonable as it sounds, comparing them side to side is probably the only way to correctly judge them. Otherwise, things like nostalgia and childhood memories get in the way.

So I vote Twilight Princess.

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  But in terms of Atmosphere Twilight Princess surpasses OoT.

I strongly disagree. The worst part about TP for me was the (imho) total lack of atmosphere.
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#103 killamagig
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Twilight Princess is a great game, but my vote goes to Ocarina of Time. Ocarina is perfect in every way, and I still play on it sometimes.
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#104 liljon546
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Metal Gear.jlabadie88
Zelda>MGS.
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#105 liljon546
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OoT, greatest game of all time IMO.
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#106 hello12367890
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OOT by far i beat tp in under 35 hours.and i got all heart pieces in under 50. they made getting the heart pieces to easy and once you got all of those the game is boring.
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#107 Thunderjack
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MM wins by a long shot.
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#108 mylsd
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OoT all the way. Nothing can ever come close to the amazing journey that was that game.
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#109 Thunderjack
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MAJORA'S MASK! what are you people blind???
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#110 Moon_of_Majora
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I'm not surprised at the MM preference because I honestly think they're just kidding if they stay that. Also; I'm making a theory that says if you're young and didn't experience OOT at launch or during that era, then that means you wouldn't understand the impact that game made when it came out. Everyone has their own opinion on matters, that's fine. I'm just trying to use information to help form my theory. Call this thread "research" for me.mythrol

Just to let you know, I played OoT when it first came out -- first edition, gold cartridge, and all that stuff -- and I prefer MM. :|

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#111 blahzor
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I loved the hell out of ocarina of time. I have been a zelda fan for as long as i remember.. in fact the very first game that i exclusively owned was Links adventure(a very underated zelda).  OoT, Original, LA, LttP, MM, WW... they are all among my favourite games ever to be released.  The legend of zelda is by far my favourite franchise.

Ocarina was amazing even by todays standards, and i have some very fond memories of it.. as for twilight princess?  It was astounding!  I loved every bit of that game.  I was in awe the entire time i played it(similar to my OoT and LttP experiences), and i pourred nearly 70 hours into it within the two weeks of owning it after release.  Ocarina of time was amazing, and definitely was more "revolutionary".. but that in no way means TP is inferior.  TP did everything right and brought alot of new things not seen in other zelda games.  Nintendo successfuly brought an action adventure game to their new system using its motion sensing controls.

In twilight princess Link was at his coolest, the world was its largest, and the bosses were some of the most epic i have fought against. The mood and pacing were perfect, the story and characters were endearing, the art was brilliant, and the music was awesome(hyrule field for instance).  The controls were great. In the wii version of this game made the spin attack a very useful skill and vastly improved on range combat.. you could actually move forward and backword while aiming.  Also, there were tons of things to do in this game.  Bull-crap to anyone who says there weren't many "side quests".  Countless hearts, finding many of which were their own sidequests.  One moment i'm racing yetis on a chunk of ice or flying through caverns popping balloons, then i'm relaxing in a canoe fishing and finally, facing off in the western themed town(genious btw).

Ocarina was amazing, but twilight princess was better.  Many here seem to disagree, but to me; it reminded me of why i love games so much.  This game was in no way a ocarina rip-off, rehash, or an unoriginal game.  I'm curious to know if the people who claim these things of TP also believe them of LttP?
I loved twilight princess so much, it really is hard to explain.  It just had so much amazing diversity in its world.  A beautiful ice mansion(my favourite dungeon any game has ever produced), a haunting desert ruins with an epic and fast paced boss battle, the stylized and creepy twilight world.  Not to mention the final showdown was so satisfying.  This game was epic.. you really felt like you had gone everywhere and seen everything by the time you finished the story.

EDIT: To anyone who thinks someone cannot prefer one game to another, stop being a close minded idiot.  There are even some people who couldn't get into ocarina but loved twilight princess.

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#112 firedonut
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I think it all comes down to hype.

I was extremely excited about OoT before it was released, and when it did... Let's just say I didn't enjoy it as much as I felt I should.

I didn't hype Twilight Princess at all, and sure enough, I enjoyed it much more than OoT.
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#113 blahzor
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I think it all comes down to hype.

I was extremely excited about OoT before it was released, and when it did... Let's just say I didn't enjoy it as much as I felt I should.

I didn't hype Twilight Princess at all, and sure enough, I enjoyed it much more than OoT.
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In regards to your OoT experience, that sucks.  Sorry to hear it didn't live up to your hype.  I would agree that hyping a game less can increase the experience of the game because you won't be dissapointed.. but there is something to be said for hyping a game alot to find it surpasses even that.

Personally, i have never been more excited for a game then i had been for LttP, OoT and TP.  All of them surpassed my expectations, they just happen to be the kind of games that i prefer i suppose.  Cater to my tastes, so to speak!

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#114 p3anut
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I enjoyed TP more than OOT, 
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#115 project343
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] yep...he just lost all credibility

:roll: So, because I'm overly opinionated, and my opinion differs from you, I lose my credibility? Twilight Princess felt like a chore to me, and I'm a huge fan of the series. [QUOTE="StealthSting"] Not everybody found it to be an insult to the Zelda franchise. The same applies to Zelda II, since not everybody hated that game:P. Why o why do people hate it.................

I respect your opinion.
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#116 TSCombo
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] yep...he just lost all credibilityproject343
:roll: So, because I'm overly opinionated, and my opinion differs from you, I lose my credibility? Twilight Princess felt like a chore to me, and I'm a huge fan of the series.
Not everybody found it to be an insult to the Zelda franchise. The same applies to Zelda II, since not everybody hated that game:P. Why o why do people hate it.................StealthSting
I respect your opinion.

Your original statement was waaay to inconsistent for you to have credibility in the debate. That's why the comment was made.
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#117 project343
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Your original statement was waaay to inconsistent for you to have credibility in the debate. That's why the comment was made.TSCombo
Not consistent? :?
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#118 Pangster007
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i've played and completed every 3D zelda except for TP. Liked every one of them. All were great imo, but OoT had the advantage of being there first and making an impact. I think whether which Zelda is better or not depends a lot on people's preferences; for example, WW being more light-hearted, MM being darker with a sense of foreboding. and ouch... the polls are suggesting that i would be letdown when i will come to play TP...
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#119 TSCombo
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[QUOTE="TSCombo"]Your original statement was waaay to inconsistent for you to have credibility in the debate. That's why the comment was made.project343
Not consistent? :?

Twilight Princess was an insult to 3D Zelda games, (next to the CD-i games, and Zelda II) it was the worst Zelda game I've ever played. No, I'm not being a fanboy. I've beaten: - Minish Cap - Ocarina of Time - Majora's Mask - Wind Waker - Oracle of Ages - Oracle of Seasons - The Legend of Zelda - A Link to the Past - Zelda IIproject343
These statements are inconsistent with not being a fanboy. You've beaten all of those Zelda's but not TP, to say it's the worst game you have ever played :? It plays like ZELDA. Was it too much Zelda for you or what?

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#120 Thug_Pikachu
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TP was pretty bad in terms of Zelda games. Brown52
dear lord finally someone says it , its great and AAA as a adventure game but as a Zelda game its easily the worst in recent history
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[QUOTE="Pangster007"]i've played and completed every 3D zelda except for TP. Liked every one of them. All were great imo, but OoT had the advantage of being there first and making an impact. I think whether which Zelda is better or not depends a lot on people's preferences; for example, WW being more light-hearted, MM being darker with a sense of foreboding. and ouch... the polls are suggesting that i would be letdown when i will come to play TP...

People just put too much... into OoT. Just like FF7. TP was great. And it's general feeling changes smoothly. Like, what you feel like doing. I'm on the last temple, and I took my time, but I've definitely enjoyed.
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#123 KingOfTaco
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[QUOTE="Pangster007"]i've played and completed every 3D zelda except for TP. Liked every one of them. All were great imo, but OoT had the advantage of being there first and making an impact. I think whether which Zelda is better or not depends a lot on people's preferences; for example, WW being more light-hearted, MM being darker with a sense of foreboding. and ouch... the polls are suggesting that i would be letdown when i will come to play TP...Jandurin
People just put too much... into OoT. Just like FF7. TP was great. And it's general feeling changes smoothly. Like, what you feel like doing. I'm on the last temple, and I took my time, but I've definitely enjoyed.

I swear sometimes I think people vote for OoT just because it's a poll choice. Remember that Zelda won a 'Best FPS' poll once.

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#124 helium_flash
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I chose TP because I was too young when i played OoT and never beat it.  I haven't beat TP yet but i love it and i know i'm going to beat it.
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#125 StealthSting
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EDIT: To anyone who thinks someone cannot prefer one game to another, stop being a close minded idiot. There are even some people who couldn't get into ocarina but loved twilight princess.

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lol Yeah I know . Alot of people I know have indeed liked TP and never liked OOT, it actually makes it kind of funny to see people saying that TP is a complete rehash of OOT under those circumstances. For example the guy that reviewd TP in 1up, is one of them. He didn't find OOT to be all that special, but he definitely loved TP.
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I swear sometimes I think people vote for OoT just because it's a poll choice. Remember that Zelda won a 'Best FPS' poll once.

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Hah! I wasn't here for that, but that's pretty good.
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#127 project343
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These statements are inconsistent with not being a fanboy. You've beaten all of those Zelda's but not TP, to say it's the worst game you have ever played :? It plays like ZELDA. Was it too much Zelda for you or what?TSCombo
All previous Zelda titles were enjoyable, Twilight Princess was a 30-hour chore. There were a lot of ":roll:" moments, nothing was ever a surprise (well, except for someone being a little too sexy at the ending [if you know what I mean]). Most of the bosses were lame, and their mini-boss counterparts were typically more enjoyable. The items simply aren't balanced throughout the game as you hardly ever use the Dominion Rod after the temple which you receive it in. One of my biggest complaints was the lack of magic, and magic arrows. Bomb arrows were cool, but it just wasn't the same. Nintendo could have potentially filled the game with very clever transformation puzzles, but there are none. The wolf becomes next to useless after you have the option to turn into a human at any time... it was just poorly planned out. I could continue to nitpick at all the flaws in the game, but that would simply be me rambling on. The bottom line is that I didn't enjoy the game, yet I've enjoyed every other Zelda title that I've played (except Zelda II).
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[QUOTE="TSCombo"]These statements are inconsistent with not being a fanboy. You've beaten all of those Zelda's but not TP, to say it's the worst game you have ever played :? It plays like ZELDA. Was it too much Zelda for you or what?project343
All previous Zelda titles were enjoyable, Twilight Princess was a 30-hour chore. There were a lot of ":roll:" moments, nothing was ever a surprise (well, except for someone being a little too sexy at the ending [if you know what I mean]). Most of the bosses were lame, and their mini-boss counterparts were typically more enjoyable. The items simply aren't balanced throughout the game as you hardly ever use the Dominion Rod after the temple which you receive it in. One of my biggest complaints was the lack of magic, and magic arrows. Bomb arrows were cool, but it just wasn't the same. Nintendo could have potentially filled the game with very clever transformation puzzles, but there are none. The wolf becomes next to useless after you have the option to turn into a human at any time... it was just poorly planned out. I could continue to nitpick at all the flaws in the game, but that would simply be me rambling on. The bottom line is that I didn't enjoy the game, yet I've enjoyed every other Zelda title that I've played (except Zelda II).

That's a decent post, even with those complaints it doesn't sound like the worst GAME you have ever played, assuming you play more than just Zelda.  And to call the game a disgrace to 3D Zeldas considering what it good asspects it offered and the similarities to Oot and WW....
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[QUOTE="project343"][QUOTE="TSCombo"]These statements are inconsistent with not being a fanboy. You've beaten all of those Zelda's but not TP, to say it's the worst game you have ever played :? It plays like ZELDA. Was it too much Zelda for you or what?TSCombo
All previous Zelda titles were enjoyable, Twilight Princess was a 30-hour chore. There were a lot of ":roll:" moments, nothing was ever a surprise (well, except for someone being a little too sexy at the ending [if you know what I mean]). Most of the bosses were lame, and their mini-boss counterparts were typically more enjoyable. The items simply aren't balanced throughout the game as you hardly ever use the Dominion Rod after the temple which you receive it in. One of my biggest complaints was the lack of magic, and magic arrows. Bomb arrows were cool, but it just wasn't the same. Nintendo could have potentially filled the game with very clever transformation puzzles, but there are none. The wolf becomes next to useless after you have the option to turn into a human at any time... it was just poorly planned out. I could continue to nitpick at all the flaws in the game, but that would simply be me rambling on. The bottom line is that I didn't enjoy the game, yet I've enjoyed every other Zelda title that I've played (except Zelda II).

That's a decent post, even with those complaints it doesn't sound like the worst GAME you have ever played, assuming you play more than just Zelda.  And to call the game a disgrace to 3D Zeldas considering what it good asspects it offered and the similarities to Oot and WW....

Didn't he say it was the worst Zelda in the first place?

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#130 project343
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That's a decent post, even with those complaints it doesn't sound like the worst GAME you have ever played, assuming you play more than just Zelda. TSCombo
I said it was the worst Zelda game I've ever played (next to CD-i Zeldas and Zelda II). So that would end up looking like: 1. Majora's Mask 2. Ocarina of Time 3. A Link to the Past 4. The Legend of Zelda 5. Wind Waker 6. Minish Cap 7. Oracle of Ages 8. Oracle of Seasons 9. Twilight Princess 10. Zelda II
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#131 project343
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And to call the game a disgrace to 3D Zeldas considering what it good asspects it offered and the similarities to Oot and WW....TSCombo
What made Ocarina of Time so great was that it reinvented the series to fit into the 3D era, and it made this transition better then any other Zelda title. Another thing that made Ocarina of Time so great was the non-linearity to the dungeons. You were typically given 2 keys, and you had several possible paths to take in whichever order you chose; however, Twilight Princess took a step backwards. In Twilight Princess there was always 1 key, 1 door and it eliminated that sense of exploration and freedom that Ocarina did so well. As far as Wind Waker goes, I found Wind Waker to be so enjoyable due to the fun nature of the characters, along with the brilliant art style. I mean, you journey around with a talking boat and a pirate; in Twilight Princess, you have a twilight being who has you whipped. I myself am a collector of sorts, I love collecting things, so lets compare: Wind Waker offers the photography collection thing, where in you take pictures of everything, and enjoy the gallery. Twilight Princess has bugs. I'm sorry but I just can't even compare these. One offers insight into your journey, something which coincides with your adventure; however, the other is just a distraction (not to mention the useless reward). Wind Waker had over 50 (I believe) island to explore, and it was great fun exploring them... Twilight Princess has a big field and a few random caves. Again, I could go on, and on with comparisons but the bottom line is that I enjoyed Wind Waker way more then Twilight Princess.
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#132 TSCombo
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[QUOTE="TSCombo"]And to call the game a disgrace to 3D Zeldas considering what it good asspects it offered and the similarities to Oot and WW....project343
What made Ocarina of Time so great was that it reinvented the series to fit into the 3D era, and it made this transition better then any other Zelda title. Another thing that made Ocarina of Time so great was the non-linearity to the dungeons. You were typically given 2 keys, and you had several possible paths to take in whichever order you chose; however, Twilight Princess took a step backwards. In Twilight Princess there was always 1 key, 1 door and it eliminated that sense of exploration and freedom that Ocarina did so well. As far as Wind Waker goes, I found Wind Waker to be so enjoyable due to the fun nature of the characters, along with the brilliant art style. I mean, you journey around with a talking boat and a pirate; in Twilight Princess, you have a twilight being who has you whipped. I myself am a collector of sorts, I love collecting things, so lets compare: Wind Waker offers the photography collection thing, where in you take pictures of everything, and enjoy the gallery. Twilight Princess has bugs. I'm sorry but I just can't even compare these. One offers insight into your journey, something which coincides with your adventure; however, the other is just a distraction (not to mention the useless reward). Wind Waker had over 50 (I believe) island to explore, and it was great fun exploring them... Twilight Princess has a big field and a few random caves. Again, I could go on, and on with comparisons but the bottom line is that I enjoyed Wind Waker way more then Twilight Princess.

My bad about the misquote...even with the introduction of new items, characters, dungeons, gameplay mechanics, and lenght, you still place Twilight Princess in the disgrace category.
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#133 lzorro
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I liked TP over OT (IMO)
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#134 stevencompton
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I've finished both OOT for N64 and TP for GC, and I voted for OOT. TP was great, but OOT was more memorable and has much better temple music. TP was too easy, and the final bosses didn't build-up like in OOT, they were just a string of bosses with the ending of the story. The last few temples in TP were disapointing, there was way too much use of the clawshot and I started to tire of the game towards the end. I've played through OOT fairly recently and it still is a superb game. TP feels like it's trying too much to recreate OOT, instead of progressing it with new features and improved gameplay.
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#135 project343
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My bad about the misquote...even with the introduction of new items, characters, dungeons, gameplay mechanics, and lenght, you still place Twilight Princess in the disgrace category. TSCombo
What do you expect from a sequel? Rehashed dungeons? Rehashed characters? A lot of the items were rehashed, but several were new. Yes, they were interesting items, but typically, you don't use them a whole lot whilst others are just plain useless (Hawkeye, anyone?). There aren't too many new game mechanics, as transforming at will was done in Majora's Mask (even then, you had the option to switch between 4 different forms). The length wasn't all too impressive, as Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess had about the same length for the main quest (30-40 hours).
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HERO OF TIME >
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[QUOTE="TSCombo"]That's a decent post, even with those complaints it doesn't sound like the worst GAME you have ever played, assuming you play more than just Zelda. project343
I said it was the worst Zelda game I've ever played (next to CD-i Zeldas and Zelda II). So that would end up looking like: 1. Majora's Mask 2. Ocarina of Time 3. A Link to the Past 4. The Legend of Zelda 5. Wind Waker 6. Minish Cap 7. Oracle of Ages 8. Oracle of Seasons 9. Twilight Princess 10. Zelda II

Why does nobody like Zelda II?