Uh Oh X1's memory almost as fast as PS4's now - Digital Foundry

Digital Foundry put up an article on X1s memory and the speeds it produces. Apparently tests show that the memory is incredibly capable and 88% more than MS had actually thought before. 

Well-placed development sources have told Digital Foundry that the ESRAM embedded memory within the Xbox One processor is considerably more capable than Microsoft envisaged during pre-production of the console, 
with data throughput levels up to 88 per cent higher in the final hardware.

Bandwidth is at a premium in the Xbox One owing to the slower DDR3 memory employed in the console, which does not compare favourably to the 8GB unified pool of GDDR5 in the PlayStation 4. 
The 32MB of "embedded static RAM" within the Xbox One processor aims to make up the difference, and was previously thought to sustain a peak theoretical throughput of 102GB/s - 
useful, but still some way behind the 176GB/s found in PlayStation 4's RAM set-up. 
Now that close-to-final silicon is available, Microsoft has revised its own figures upwards significantly, telling developers that 192GB/s is now theoretically possible

Things just got Reaaaal interesting. Cows positives of the PS4 over X1 seem to be fading fast these days. This is shaping up to be one hell of a console war

More at the link

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Digital Foundry put up an article on X1s memory and the speeds it produces. Apparently tests show that the memory is incredibly capable and 88% more than MS had actually thought before. 

Well-placed development sources have told Digital Foundry that the ESRAM embedded memory within the Xbox One processor is considerably more capable than Microsoft envisaged during pre-production of the console, 
with data throughput levels up to 88 per cent higher in the final hardware.

Bandwidth is at a premium in the Xbox One owing to the slower DDR3 memory employed in the console, which does not compare favourably to the 8GB unified pool of GDDR5 in the PlayStation 4. 
The 32MB of "embedded static RAM" within the Xbox One processor aims to make up the difference, and was previously thought to sustain a peak theoretical throughput of 102GB/s - 
useful, but still some way behind the 176GB/s found in PlayStation 4's RAM set-up. 
Now that close-to-final silicon is available, Microsoft has revised its own figures upwards significantly, telling developers that 192GB/s is now theoretically possiblelegalize82

Things just got Reaaaal interesting. Cows positives of the PS4 over X1 seem to be fading fast these days. This is shaping up to be one hell of a console war

More at the link

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Digital Foundry put up an article on X1s memory and the speeds it produces. Apparently tests show that the memory is incredibly capable and 88% more than MS had actually thought before. 

Well-placed development sources have told Digital Foundry that the ESRAM embedded memory within the Xbox One processor is considerably more capable than Microsoft envisaged during pre-production of the console, 
with data throughput levels up to 88 per cent higher in the final hardware.

Bandwidth is at a premium in the Xbox One owing to the slower DDR3 memory employed in the console, which does not compare favourably to the 8GB unified pool of GDDR5 in the PlayStation 4. 
The 32MB of "embedded static RAM" within the Xbox One processor aims to make up the difference, and was previously thought to sustain a peak theoretical throughput of 102GB/s - 
useful, but still some way behind the 176GB/s found in PlayStation 4's RAM set-up. 
Now that close-to-final silicon is available, Microsoft has revised its own figures upwards significantly, telling developers that 192GB/s is now theoretically possiblelegalize82

Things just got Reaaaal interesting. Cows positives of the PS4 over X1 seem to be fading fast these days. This is shaping up to be one hell of a console war

More at the link

It still is, but nowhere near as big a gap as people thought. GDDR5 is also worse for the CPU while DDR3 is better due to latency

193 >>>> 176

Azure >>> Gaikai

TCHBO :lol:

Riiight..

Riiight..

Douevenlift_bro

 

Riiight..

Douevenlift_bro

Wow, what a well thought out post. Why don't you think so? 

And here come the cows

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Things just got Reaaaal interesting. Cows positives of the PS4 over X1 seem to be fading fast these days. This is shaping up to be one hell of a console war

More at the link

rjdofu

Just waiting on those Cows to come rampaging in. clyde46

They can't seem to catch a break lately lol. After E3 they had so much over lems and now all those positives are blowing in the wind. If this is true and holds up all cows have over them is price really

Bu, bu,buttt... eh forgetaboutit, who has lived through the last decade of gaming and didn't see this and mooooaaar coming ? Shheeeeesssssh.

And here come the cows

 

mems_1224

Doesn't make up for the fact their GPU has 50% less shader units than the PS4's. 

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

 

Riiight..

seanmcloughlin

Wow, what a well thought out post. Why don't you think so? 

Lame. Next...

PR BS.

Still has gimp GPU.

Any word from MS is to be taken with a grain of salt.

Especially that GDDR 5 is going to cause PS4 to overheat... :lol:

They have the worst tech advice and knowledge known to man.

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[spoiler] Microsoft will have to do whatever they can to make sure the Cablebox One is as powerful (or even more powerful) than PS4. I have to admit, I never expected this to happen, this evens out the playing field some more. But hey, this is great. This means that multiplats will look that much better on PC and PS4/Cablebox. [/spoiler]

Explains how Quantum Break looks better than every PS4 game combined. ShoulderOfOrion

x1 was running on a high-end PC and windows7. learning from the past, we cant comparing games' graphics side by side from e3. BEACAUSE THE HARDWARE ISNT READY PEOPLE!!!

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

 

Riiight..

Douevenlift_bro

Wow, what a well thought out post. Why don't you think so? 

Lame. Next...

It was the same with Sony and Teh Cell though

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Just waiting on those Cows to come rampaging in. seanmcloughlin

They can't seem to catch a break lately lol. After E3 they had so much over lems and now all those positives are blowing in the wind. If this is true and holds up all cows have over them is price really

um it's only 32MB :| and it suggest MS are even more desperately trying to get some kind of similar performance out of the console because they know it's underpowered in comparision.

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Wow, what a well thought out post. Why don't you think so? 

seanmcloughlin

Lame. Next...

It was the same with Sony and Teh Cell though

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Things just got Reaaaal interesting. Cows positives of the PS4 over X1 seem to be fading fast these days. This is shaping up to be one hell of a console war

More at the link

seanmcloughlin

It still is, but nowhere near as big a gap as people thought. GDDR5 is also worse for the CPU while DDR3 is better due to latency

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[spoiler] That's not a problem, they worked around the latency with the APU. I don't know all the details, but it was big news a couple weeks ago. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Things just got Reaaaal interesting. Cows positives of the PS4 over X1 seem to be fading fast these days. This is shaping up to be one hell of a console war

More at the link

seanmcloughlin

It still is, but nowhere near as big a gap as people thought. GDDR5 is also worse for the CPU while DDR3 is better due to latency

DDR3 is good for the cpu where GDDR5 is not but GDDR5 is good for the gpu where as DDR3 is slow for the gpu. In the end, both systems are comparable and games won't look different between the platforms. The X1 has its advantages where the PS4 has its advantages.

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]Explains how Quantum Break looks better than every PS4 game combined. solidx12

x1 was running on a high-end PC and windows7. learning from the past, we cant comparing games' graphics side by side from e3. BEACAUSE THE HARDWARE ISNT READY PEOPLE!!!

Doesn't make up for the fact their GPU has 50% less shader units than the PS4's. 

Wasdie

Yep, but the once huge gap between the two seems to be closing an awful lot lately. Overall, not just specs

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

 

Riiight..

Douevenlift_bro

Wow, what a well thought out post. Why don't you think so? 

Lame. Next...

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Wow, what a well thought out post. Why don't you think so? 

legalize82

Lame. Next...

Neither console is out. They're both theoretical at this point

Explains how Quantum Break looks better than every PS4 game combined. ShoulderOfOrion

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="legalize82"] gddr5-------> ddr3sirk1264

It still is, but nowhere near as big a gap as people thought. GDDR5 is also worse for the CPU while DDR3 is better due to latency

DDR3 is good for the cpu where GDDR5 is not but GDDR5 is good for the gpu where as DDR3 is slow for the gpu. In the end, both systems are comparable and games won't look different between the platforms. The X1 has its advantages where the PS4 has its advantages.

Bingo. But the PS4s GPU is better and that will make a bigger difference to games

This has sweet nothing all to do with the DDR3.  Thread is pathetic.

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]Explains how Quantum Break looks better than every PS4 game combined. NEWMAHAY

Digital Foundry put up an article on X1s memory and the speeds it produces. Apparently tests show that the memory is incredibly capable and 88% more than MS had actually thought before. 

Well-placed development sources have told Digital Foundry that the ESRAM embedded memory within the Xbox One processor is considerably more capable than Microsoft envisaged during pre-production of the console, 
with data throughput levels up to 88 per cent higher in the final hardware.

Bandwidth is at a premium in the Xbox One owing to the slower DDR3 memory employed in the console, which does not compare favourably to the 8GB unified pool of GDDR5 in the PlayStation 4. 
The 32MB of "embedded static RAM" within the Xbox One processor aims to make up the difference, and was previously thought to sustain a peak theoretical throughput of 102GB/s - 
useful, but still some way behind the 176GB/s found in PlayStation 4's RAM set-up. 
Now that close-to-final silicon is available, Microsoft has revised its own figures upwards significantly, telling developers that 192GB/s is now theoretically possibleseanmcloughlin

Things just got Reaaaal interesting. Cows positives of the PS4 over X1 seem to be fading fast these days. This is shaping up to be one hell of a console war

More at the link

First of all the xbox one could read faster than it can write.

Second it could have 250GB bandwidht,if there is no power to fill it,it means nothing as the 7850 and 7870 are no bandwidth starved,neither is the 7770 or 7790,you have the bandwidth effective to your power best usage,so using 250GB bandwidth on a 1.23 TF GPU mean little.

This has sweet nothing all to do with the DDR3.  Thread is pathetic.

Shewgenja

Dat butthurt

:lol:

I think the final product of the Xbox one would come close the PS4 in terms of spec, but overtaking it would be a far cry. It also rest on the developers to take advantage of what both consoles does best, in the case of DDR3, it handles data better in short burst while the GDDR5 is super fast. I suspect the multiplatform games would look very identical, it is perhaps the exclusives that would set them apart

Doesn't make up for the fact their GPU has 50% less shader units than the PS4's. 

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Wow, what a well thought out post. Why don't you think so? 

seanmcloughlin

Lame. Next...

It was the same with Sony and Teh Cell though

Nice one Sean. You've got the Cows to come damage control :lol:clyde46

It's what I do :cool: Serious DC already