UK - 360 outselling Wii and PS3 2:1 - Momentum coming to an end?

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#1 -Pred-Alien-
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Was reading around on the VGC forums and heres something i came across

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=78683&page=1

According to GfK Chart-Track, since 31 Jan 09 to 27 June 09, PS3 sold 300k (2.2 mil LTD) whereas the 360 600k (3.9 mil LTD).

The Wii? It sold 300k in the same period.

Now offcourse, there are many reasons being thrown around which includes pricing and current economic factors, but the way the Wii is marketed, it simply cannot be competed against. The story in Japan is similar, as we all know, their market has shrunk considerably and while the Wii may be doing better than the rest, its only selling in the teen thousands.

In fact, Wii Sports Resorts released last week and only managed to get Wii hardware to 20k. So yes, its only the UK, but the UK is a HUGE region, crazy hardware numbers for its size as well as sky high attach rates for all systems. It may be a stretch, but UK is almost half of Western Europe.

Does anyone see this happening elsewhere?

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#2 -Pred-Alien-
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Oh and heres more stats from the poster. YOY Growth in Feb-June 08 and Feb-June 09 360 = 100% PS3 = 0% Wii = -67%
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#3 airraido
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Omeegoshbbqsauce 360 won a couple of months in ONE country! whoa teh comeback. Wii Sports Resort released and that's all she wrote.
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#4 airraido
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Why do Cows and Lems bother. You already lost in sales accept it. By making threads like this you're just making it obvious how much you care when you say you dont in other threads.
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#5 -Pred-Alien-
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[QUOTE="airraido"]Omeegoshbbqsauce 360 won a couple of months in ONE country! whoa teh comeback. Wii Sports Resort released and that's all she wrote.

Wow youre taking it hard arent you:? I was simply discussing and issue, its funny how some people to love to rub in sales and then when its not on their side, its all of a sudden 'pathetic' The Wii is going to go back on top, but come on, the fact that the PS3 at such a high price tag is selling as much is clearly cause of concern.
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#6 airraido
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[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"][QUOTE="airraido"]Omeegoshbbqsauce 360 won a couple of months in ONE country! whoa teh comeback. Wii Sports Resort released and that's all she wrote.

Wow youre taking it hard arent you:? I was simply discussing and issue, its funny how some people to love to rub in sales and then when its not on their side, its all of a sudden 'pathetic' The Wii is going to go back on top, but come on, the fact that the PS3 at such a high price tag is selling as much is clearly cause of concern.

PS3 is in last place in UK :lol: How are 360's sales a postive thing for PS3?
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#7 themyth01
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UK accounts for most hardware sales out of EU countries. This simply means the 360 is outselling the PS3 worldwide, which we knew already.

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#8 mightychir
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The Wii obviously would eventually end its momentum.
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#9 thelastguy
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When the next Mario game comes along you will forget this sales dip happened

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#10 PS3_3DO
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The PS3 is going to outsell the 360 in the UK in 2015. :lol:

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#11 nchan
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Here in System War, UK doesn't matter. Only U.S. and Japan matter.
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#12 Menalque2
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Here in System War, UK doesn't matter. Only U.S. and Japan matter.nchan

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

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#13 AmayaPapaya
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When the next Mario game comes along you will forget this sales dip happened

thelastguy

This...The reason why sales have been going down is because the last AAA first party game to hit the wii was i think...March 2008 with SSBB. The only one i see on Gamespots thing is World of Goo with a 9.0, and thats 3rd party... Nintendo is making it up a bit this year, and a whole lot next year! This year we Metroid Prime Trilogy (the best deal to everhit the video game market), Wii sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, and New Super Mario Brothers Wii...Non of those games are even good enough for what we can expect for 2010. Super mario Galaxy 2=AAA, or AAAA (most likely AAA), Metroid other M=AA, or AAA, Pikmin 3=AAA, Zelda Wii=AAA, or AAAA (Zelda team said they are focusing on gameplay so its very possible AAAA). So i would expect sales to rise very soon!

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#14 AmayaPapaya
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[QUOTE="nchan"]Here in System War, UK doesn't matter. Only U.S. and Japan matter.Menalque2

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

It doesn't matter if it is...no one just cares for the U.K when it comes to gaming...unless it's a fanboy who realizes it helps the image of their console.

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#15 Mario2007
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[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

[QUOTE="nchan"]Here in System War, UK doesn't matter. Only U.S. and Japan matter.AmayaPapaya

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

It doesn't matter if it is...no one just cares for the U.K when it comes to gaming...unless it's a fanboy who realizes it helps the image of their console.

Or the said fanboy is from the UK?
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#16 Menalque2
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[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

[QUOTE="nchan"]Here in System War, UK doesn't matter. Only U.S. and Japan matter.AmayaPapaya

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

It doesn't matter if it is...no one just cares for the U.K when it comes to gaming...unless it's a fanboy who realizes it helps the image of their console.

That's funny. Cows are quick to boast when the PS3 outsells the Wii for a mere week in Japan, despite the fact that they are not Japanese, that they don't know anybody who is Japanese and that absolutely nobody using this forum is Japanese.

Yet if a British gamer points out at the 360 is outselling both of its competitors by a factor of 2 in the world's second biggest gaming market, they are fanboy trying to boost the image of that system. Don't make me laugh.

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#17 gago-gago
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I think any console outselling the Wii is quite a feat. Good for them.

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#18 menserman
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

Here in System War, UK doesn't matter. Only U.S. and Japan matter.nchan

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

It doesn't matter if it is...no one just cares for the U.K when it comes to gaming...unless it's a fanboy who realizes it helps the image of their console.

donno but most of us look more like a brit then a japaness. and since the uk is a bigger market. maybe we shouldnt care about japan since its got different game taste than us or the uk?
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#19 nintendoboy16
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Let's see. UK has 360. Japan has PS3. Everywhere else has the Wii. It's going to take a lot more than two countries to take the Wii down.
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#20 rybe1025
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Let's see. UK has 360. Japan has PS3. Everywhere else has the Wii. It's going to take a lot more than two countries to take the Wii down.nintendoboy16
The Wii has Japan also. There is no where the PS3 is pretty much always the best seller.
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#21 AmayaPapaya
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

Menalque2

It doesn't matter if it is...no one just cares for the U.K when it comes to gaming...unless it's a fanboy who realizes it helps the image of their console.

That's funny. Cows are quick to boast when the PS3 outsells the Wii for a mere week in Japan, despite the fact that they are not Japanese, that they don't know anybody who is Japanese and that absolutely nobody using this forum is Japanese.

Yet if a British gamer points out at the 360 is outselling both of its competitors by a factor of 2 in the world's second biggest gaming market, they are fanboy trying to boost the image of that system. Don't make me laugh.

Why don't you like to laugh :(Personally the onlyone that does matter is the U.S. The USis much bigger than the U.K or or Japan.Myguess is, if you added Japan and U.Ks sells, the U.S would still have more sells, or pretty close. BTW, i didn't call him a fanboy? I just said anyone that cares. He doesn't seem like he cares too much. he just saw it as a sign the Wii would stop selling consoles as well. It sounds like he just doesn't like the wii.

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#22 -Pred-Alien-
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Actually as many have said, it does matter because UK is the third, if not SECOND biggest region for games. Also, Japan is a closed-off region that has a completely unique taste whereas America and Europe follow a similar trend. But whats really shocking is that it didnt outsell the PS3 which is priced so much higher
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#23 GabeNewellsPie
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Wow congrats to the Brits.

You guys have really great taste when it comes to videogames consoles. :D

Keep it up.

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#24 Hexagon_777
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Omeegoshbbqsauce 360 won a couple of months in ONE country! whoa teh comeback. Wii Sports Resort released and that's all she wrote.airraido

The UK happens to be the second largest video game market in the world if you don't count the EU.

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#25 surrealnumber5
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so who wants to put each product in its propper product life cycle category

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#26 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

It doesn't matter if it is...no one just cares for the U.K when it comes to gaming...unless it's a fanboy who realizes it helps the image of their console.

AmayaPapaya

That's funny. Cows are quick to boast when the PS3 outsells the Wii for a mere week in Japan, despite the fact that they are not Japanese, that they don't know anybody who is Japanese and that absolutely nobody using this forum is Japanese.

Yet if a British gamer points out at the 360 is outselling both of its competitors by a factor of 2 in the world's second biggest gaming market, they are fanboy trying to boost the image of that system. Don't make me laugh.

Why don't you like to laugh :(Personally the onlyone that does matter is the U.S. The USis much bigger than the U.K or or Japan.Myguess is, if you added Japan and U.Ks sells, the U.S would still have more sells, or pretty close. BTW, i didn't call him a fanboy? I just said anyone that cares. He doesn't seem like he cares too much. he just saw it as a sign the Wii would stop selling consoles as well. It sounds like he just doesn't like the wii.

The EU is actually a larger gaming market than the US.

Evidence #1

Evidence #2

:D :D :D

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#27 -Pred-Alien-
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Wow congrats to the Brits.

You guys have really great taste when it comes to videogames consoles. :D

Keep it up.

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Yes and no, our software sales are pretty much the Imagine and Wii series.
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#28 -Pred-Alien-
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

That's funny. Cows are quick to boast when the PS3 outsells the Wii for a mere week in Japan, despite the fact that they are not Japanese, that they don't know anybody who is Japanese and that absolutely nobody using this forum is Japanese.

Yet if a British gamer points out at the 360 is outselling both of its competitors by a factor of 2 in the world's second biggest gaming market, they are fanboy trying to boost the image of that system. Don't make me laugh.

Hexagon_777

Why don't you like to laugh :(Personally the onlyone that does matter is the U.S. The USis much bigger than the U.K or or Japan.Myguess is, if you added Japan and U.Ks sells, the U.S would still have more sells, or pretty close. BTW, i didn't call him a fanboy? I just said anyone that cares. He doesn't seem like he cares too much. he just saw it as a sign the Wii would stop selling consoles as well. It sounds like he just doesn't like the wii.

The EU is actually a larger gaming market than the US.

Evidence #1

Evidence #2

:D :D :D

Yes but for a 360/PS3 game (exclusive or multi) the US is easily the biggest region.
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#29 jerahmeela
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It is interesting that people claim that the U.K. is a larger market than Japan, while the population of the U.K. is around 60 million, while Japan's population is around 175 million.

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#30 -Pred-Alien-
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It is interesting that people claim that the U.K. is a larger market than Japan, while the population of the U.K. is around 60 million, while Japan's population is around 175 million.

jerahmeela
So:? The world population is roughly 7 billion and yet its only NA, Western Europe and Japan that have any impact on videogame sales.
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#31 Hexagon_777
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It is interesting that people claim that the U.K. is a larger market than Japan, while the population of the U.K. is around 60 million, while Japan's population is around 175 million.

jerahmeela

Population may be a factor, but it certainly isn't the sole factor. Furthermore, it isn't just a claim that the UK is a larger market than Japan. It's a statement.

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#32 -Pred-Alien-
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[QUOTE="jerahmeela"]

It is interesting that people claim that the U.K. is a larger market than Japan, while the population of the U.K. is around 60 million, while Japan's population is around 175 million.

Hexagon_777

Population may be a factor, but it certainly isn't the sole factor. Furthermore, it isn't just a claim that the UK is a larger market than Japan. It's a statement.

Japan is still WAY WAY WAY ahead in terms of hardware sales (or totals anyway)
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#33 -Snooze-
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So ... The PS3 is losing in the US. Losing in the UK (which make sup most of the EU gaming market) and second in Japan.

Also, i hear it's first in Norway :)

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#34 -Pred-Alien-
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So ... The PS3 is losing in the US. Losing in the UK (which make sup most of the EU gaming market) and second in Japan.

Also, i hear it's first in Norway :)

-Snooze-
MS is doing well in Scandinavia from what ive heard.
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#35 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

So ... The PS3 is losing in the US. Losing in the UK (which make sup most of the EU gaming market) and second in Japan.

Also, i hear it's first in Norway :)

-Pred-Alien-

MS is doing well in Scandinavia from what ive heard.

This is nottrue. The PS3 has scandinavia wrapped up. I hear they have sold almost 100,000 consoles :o

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#36 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Let's see. UK has 360. Japan has PS3. Everywhere else has the Wii. It's going to take a lot more than two countries to take the Wii down.rybe1025
The Wii has Japan also. There is no where the PS3 is pretty much always the best seller.

PS3 is dominating in Latvia, and Ukraine.....

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#37 bobcheeseball
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Why do Cows and Lems bother. You already lost in sales accept it. By making threads like this you're just making it obvious how much you care when you say you dont in other threads.airraido

Well said. So much for " You cant play sales"

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[QUOTE="airraido"]Omeegoshbbqsauce 360 won a couple of months in ONE country! whoa teh comeback. Wii Sports Resort released and that's all she wrote.

Four.
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#39 sonny2dap
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any uk gamer could have told you the same and its not because of price etc. it's because the 360 occupies that niche the ps2 occupied last gen the console of choice where all your mates have one so you get one too so you can join in with the piss taking and general pissing about, end of. At the end of the day it's about fun and yeh the ps3 is fun too but its not £300 worth of fun if you know what I mean.

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#40 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="airraido"]Omeegoshbbqsauce 360 won a couple of months in ONE country! whoa teh comeback. Wii Sports Resort released and that's all she wrote.ToScA-
Four.

I totally forgot to correct him concerning that. I was too busy trying to convey to him that that "one" country happens to be the second largest video game market on the planet.

Oh well. :P

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[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Wow congrats to the Brits.

You guys have really great taste when it comes to videogames consoles. :D

Keep it up.

yep we do. its all down to our superior genes:P
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#42 CreepyBacon
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And some Sony fanboys still insist there winning in Europe. :lol: Not a chance in hell.

Nintendo shot themselves in the foot with late releases to games, upping hte price of the wii (granted retailers took the hit and the wii price has remained around the same) and not providing enough support. Sony shot themselves in the foot with the idiotic pricing, major lack of support and total lack of interest in europe as a whole.

Nice to see people are taking notice of microsofts efforts.

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#43 ALTAIR360
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[QUOTE="nchan"]Here in System War, UK doesn't matter. Only U.S. and Japan matter.Menalque2

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

no way the whole europe ;) uk is nothing
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#44 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

[QUOTE="nchan"]Here in System War, UK doesn't matter. Only U.S. and Japan matter.AmayaPapaya

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

It doesn't matter if it is...no one just cares for the U.K when it comes to gaming...unless it's a fanboy who realizes it helps the image of their console.

you realise this is a UK gaming site don't you?, and MS obviously care about the UK, we get the cheapest 360's in the world, also the UK used to dominate the gaming market,especially on the spectrum and the c64, you do know eidos used to be a British company called OCEAN also RARE used to be known as Ultimate (they created jetpac) at least 80% of the classics (manic miner,jet set willy,skool daze, etc) where made here in the UK, the UK market is bigger than the rest of Europe put together, to say the UK doesn't count is stupid, and stop speaking for every one, not everyone thinks the UK is irrelevant, only cows who don't like the fact the 360 is the favoured console here in blighty.
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#45 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

[QUOTE="nchan"]Here in System War, UK doesn't matter. Only U.S. and Japan matter.ALTAIR360

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

no way the whole europe ;) uk is nothing

yes way
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#46 macca404
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The PS3 is going to outsell the 360 in the UK in 2015. :lol:

PS3_3DO

Good one. :roll:

The Wii will eventually be back on top,

People are forgetting that Nintendo still have the long awaited price-cut up their sleeves

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#47 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

[QUOTE="nchan"]Here in System War, UK doesn't matter. Only U.S. and Japan matter.ALTAIR360

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

no way the whole europe ;) uk is nothing

Um...What? The UK is a bigger video game market than Japan. :?

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#48 delta3074
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[QUOTE="ALTAIR360"][QUOTE="Menalque2"]

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

Hexagon_777

no way the whole europe ;) uk is nothing

Um...What? The UK is a bigger video game market than Japan. :?

so it's official then, UK number 2 in the world when it comes to gaming, sometimes i really love it when history repeats itself, being a briton born and bred, this makes me very proud.
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#49 macca404
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[QUOTE="ALTAIR360"][QUOTE="Menalque2"]

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

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no way the whole europe ;) uk is nothing

Um...What? The UK is a bigger video game market than Japan. :?

It would be nice if Australia was seeing that kind of growth in the videogames market.:)

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#50 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

The UK is a bigger gaming market than Japan.

delta3074

It doesn't matter if it is...no one just cares for the U.K when it comes to gaming...unless it's a fanboy who realizes it helps the image of their console.

you realise this is a UK gaming site don't you?, and MS obviously care about the UK, we get the cheapest 360's in the world, also the UK used to dominate the gaming market,especially on the spectrum and the c64, you do know eidos used to be a British company called OCEAN also RARE used to be known as Ultimate (they created jetpac) at least 80% of the classics (manic miner,jet set willy,skool daze, etc) where made here in the UK, the UK market is bigger than the rest of Europe put together, to say the UK doesn't count is stupid, and stop speaking for every one, not everyone thinks the UK is irrelevant, only cows who don't like the fact the 360 is the favoured console here in blighty.

Sorry, it's not. Not at all.