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#51 Blue-Sky
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Uncharted gains more from PS3's HDD than it does from BR.

Like for example - no loading.

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#52 djsifer01
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UC2 is going to be insane, second best game this year to Demons Souls.
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#53 rappid_rabbit
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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

morons...

why do u think dvd's cant play at 1080p???

its because the transfer rate on the blu ray is higher allowing more pixel to be filled in smaller amount of time resulting in advanced codec which then allows for higher resolutions.

iliatay

so your saying this game is going to run at higher resolutions than 360 games...?

no im replying to what that guy said about blu ray bieng pointless. im just stating that blu rays are the only types of discs that u can buy that diplays in 1080p

Its clear you do not know anything about Blu-ray, the specs, or how the PS3 utilizes it. that mess about advanced codec and higher transfer rate you said was just sad and uneducated. Is this seriously what some people think?
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#54 abuabed
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Uncharted 2 is gonna be a bomb, a huge one..
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#55 Swift_Boss_A
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Though I don't believe HipHopGamer on anything I do agree that Blu-ray is a major factor why Uncharted 2 cannot be done on the 360. Ofcourse there are other reasons like the AWESOME power of Cell, I doubt 360 could handle the character animations present in Uncharted 2.

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#56 Next-Gen-Tec
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So when will he admit he is a PS3 fanboy instead of trolling on the 360?

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#57 Zaibach
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So when will he admit he is a PS3 fanboy instead of trolling on the 360?

Next-Gen-Tec

He's not a fanboy he's just easily excitable

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#58 Next-Gen-Tec
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[QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"]

So when will he admit he is a PS3 fanboy instead of trolling on the 360?

Zaibach

He's not a fanboy he's just easily excitable

He also doesn't know what he's talking about. Especially the textures part.
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#59 3SPbluray360gb
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dear god guys.. fanboyism is a sickness. YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE DVD>BLU RAY.....is that how blind you are
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#60 razgriz_101
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hip hop gamer show.

A. hes an obvious ps3 fanboy

B. hes an idiot and has no idea what hes talking about 100% of the time

He should learn how to speak english properly before he tries harder things like talking about hardware.

yes i know my grammar is atrocious.

washd123

agreed who would listen to hiphopgamer :S, he's pretty much facepalmed himself more than all of system wars combined together.Its more how naughty dog used the tech like the cell and RSX that uncharted looks good and the fact they know a lot bout the hardware.Blu-ray only really gives them more headroom for data.

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#61 Racer850
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Uncharted2 is going too rock! ;)

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I'll be buying it but the hype of the visuals is getting too much.
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#62 G-O-M-J
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like i said before, uncharted can be done on the 360 just compress it or put it on 2 discs, problem solved.
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#63 BoloTheGreat
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Though I don't believe HipHopGamer on anything I do agree that Blu-ray is a major factor why Uncharted 2 cannot be done on the 360. Ofcourse there are other reasons like the AWESOME power of Cell, I doubt 360 could handle the character animations present in Uncharted 2.

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ohhh so much Fail in one post
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#64 Furi-Kun
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Lol. Uncharted.

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#65 Will2Live
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I have Unchared preordered and all, but. . . what? Bluray is just a storage system. The only time that it really affects the game is like in MGS4 where they didn't want to compress certain files too much (like all of the sounds and music) to help it run a little better. Uncharted 2, as awesome as it looks, won't need all of the space.

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#66 smokedagoodyo
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[QUOTE="sexxxyboy"]looks like blu ray is really putting a dent in the 360s side http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-386259.aspx

halo reach will put this game in it's place.
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#67 smokedagoodyo
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It's a damn shame halo reach is a like a year owell.
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#68 Zaibach
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Much faith in this halo reach you have uhmmm?

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#69 smokedagoodyo
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halo 1/2 were some of the best graphics games for xbox on release. halo 3 used the halo 2 engine so that's why it's graphics werent amazing. halo reach will be using new engine made for xbox360 we will see how ps3 fairs now kids.
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#70 SecretPolice
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Bungie says: PS3 can't Reach

Rare says: PS3 lacks the Nuts & Bolts

MS says: B.R. not needed.

:P

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not true. DVDs can be 1080p. They just don't have as much storage, so they don't put HD videos on dvds. Bluray is ABSOLUTELY nothing more than DVD EXCEPT that it has more space on the disc. THAT'S it.
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#72 mythrol
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[QUOTE="3SPbluray360gb"]dear god guys.. fanboyism is a sickness. YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE DVD>BLU RAY.....is that how blind you are

I believe the DVD drive in the 360 has faster transfer rates than the Blu-Ray drive in the PS3. You actually believe Blu-Ray provides graphical advantages to the PS3. . .that's how blind you are.
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#73 Ontain
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[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] Honestly, ND doesn't even go into depth with WHAT exactly the 25 gigs of memory was used for, uncompressed sound, full on multi-national languages, it really isn't nessacary. tmntPunchout

25gb of space means jack sh*t when it comes to the blu-ray disks used for the ps3. the drive is so slow that data has to be copied multiple times. meaning that 25gb is really about 15 or so

That still doesn't change the fact that it probably will not need to load during the game if it is similar to Uncharted 1. I could care less of what the space is used for as long as it runs great which I have no doubt ND will succeed in.

Why would you care what the space is used for if it is used efficiently?

so if you are conceding that the space is because of multiple copies of the data on the same disc to overcome the drive speed then wouldn't that mean it could be done on dvd as well maybe requiring only another disc. after all uncharted is not a free roam game so swapping wouldn't be much of an issue.

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#74 BoloTheGreat
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]not true. DVDs can be 1080p. They just don't have as much storage, so they don't put HD videos on dvds. Bluray is ABSOLUTELY nothing more than DVD EXCEPT that it has more space on the disc. THAT'S it.

Also the trasnfer rate on the PS3 is pretty low (2X) so it necesitates Installs, making the argument even MORE redundant. Bluray has nothing to do with the graphics, that is dictated my the VRAM, System RAM, CPU and GPU.
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Also the trasnfer rate on the PS3 is pretty low (2X) so it necesitates Installs, making the argument even MORE redundant. Bluray has nothing to do with the graphics, that is dictated my the VRAM, System RAM, CPU and GPU.BoloTheGreat
to be fair, i install every game i play these days. On the 360 and PS3 and PC. I hate running off of discs.
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#76 BoloTheGreat
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]Also the trasnfer rate on the PS3 is pretty low (2X) so it necesitates Installs, making the argument even MORE redundant. Bluray has nothing to do with the graphics, that is dictated my the VRAM, System RAM, CPU and GPU.Jandurin
to be fair, i install every game i play these days. On the 360 and PS3 and PC. I hate running off of discs.

Not really a problem for 360 games i tend to find, only game i have installed is ME. I get your point though, why not have the best performance and loading you possibly can? People seem to STILL have this misguided veiw that BR has something to do with graphics, infact to an extent the size of a game in GB has little baring on it's graphics to a point.
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#77 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Though I don't believe HipHopGamer on anything I do agree that Blu-ray is a major factor why Uncharted 2 cannot be done on the 360. Ofcourse there are other reasons like the AWESOME power of Cell, I doubt 360 could handle the character animations present in Uncharted 2.

BoloTheGreat
ohhh so much Fail in one post

Ah so you doubt the power of teh cell 8) sigh it is you who fails my good sir....
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Funny how this dude's trying to act gangsta lol and my neighbor who's a black dude drives a acura but i seen him leaving going somewhere on 2 different occasions with his window rolled down listening to metalica's enter sandman song LMFAO!.
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#79 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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why not have the best performance and loading you possibly can?BoloTheGreat
this + less moving parts is better and makes less heat (especially important for the 360 :P)
People seem to STILL have this misguided veiw that BR has something to do with graphics, infact to an extent the size of a game in GB has little baring on it's graphics to a point. BoloTheGreat
yeah. Sometimes it seems like they just don't get it.
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#80 BoloTheGreat
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Though I don't believe HipHopGamer on anything I do agree that Blu-ray is a major factor why Uncharted 2 cannot be done on the 360. Ofcourse there are other reasons like the AWESOME power of Cell, I doubt 360 could handle the character animations present in Uncharted 2.

Swift_Boss_A
ohhh so much Fail in one post

Ah so you doubt the power of teh cell 8) sigh it is you who fails my good sir....

... I just got trolled didn't i. Dam it!! Sucessfull troll is Sucessfull
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#81 sexy_robot_man
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Bungie says: PS3 can't Reach

Rare says: PS3 lacks the Nuts & Bolts

MS says: B.R. not needed.

:P

SecretPolice

:lol: I liked that.

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#82 skektek
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like i said before, uncharted can be done on the 360 just compress it or put it on 2 discs, problem solved.G-O-M-J

Continuing with that logic U2 (or any game for that matter) could be done on the Wii or the DS.

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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] ohhh so much Fail in one post

Ah so you doubt the power of teh cell 8) sigh it is you who fails my good sir....

... I just got trolled didn't i. Dam it!! Sucessfull troll is Sucessfull

All Jokes aside Uncharted 2 cannot be done on 360 in it's current state since it's created specifically for the PS3's architecture, get it :|
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It will be fun in 5 years when we all look back and have a good laugh about the power of the Cell and Blu-Ray.

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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Ah so you doubt the power of teh cell 8) sigh it is you who fails my good sir....Swift_Boss_A
... I just got trolled didn't i. Dam it!! Sucessfull troll is Sucessfull

All Jokes aside Uncharted 2 cannot be done on 360 in it's current state since it's created specifically for the PS3's architecture, get it :|

Read my sig foo, that should help clear things up.

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#86 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]like i said before, uncharted can be done on the 360 just compress it or put it on 2 discs, problem solved.skektek

Continuing with that logic U2 (or any game for that matter) could be done on the Wii or the DS.

lol true, lemms think it's just blu-ray stopping Uncharted 2 to go 360. The game uses the PS3's strengths and if it were to go on the 360 (never) it will need to be heavily modified for the 360, the end result may not be as good as the game is now.
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#87 mythrol
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[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]like i said before, uncharted can be done on the 360 just compress it or put it on 2 discs, problem solved.skektek

Continuing with that logic U2 (or any game for that matter) could be done on the Wii or the DS.

If Blu-Ray = better graphics then why does the Wii not have equal graphics to the 360? They both use DVD's?
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[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]like i said before, uncharted can be done on the 360 just compress it or put it on 2 discs, problem solved.Swift_Boss_A

Continuing with that logic U2 (or any game for that matter) could be done on the Wii or the DS.

lol true, lemms think it's just blu-ray stopping Uncharted 2 to go 360. The game uses the PS3's strengths and if it were to go on the 360 (never) it will need to be heavily modified for the 360, the end result may not be as good as the game is now.

xbox360 could run this game with better graphics even if it needed to be on multiple disk lol.
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What's sad is xbox360 games are still comparable to ps3 games and none of those's games have graphics engine built only for 360 like ps3's games.
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#90 Riverwolf007
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before blu ray we had to install multiple discs now thanks to this amazing technology we only have to install one disc! :lol:

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insecurity at it's finest. Let me clear this up, any game can run on any system but that doen't mean it will be as good or the same. I'm sure Crysis coud be made for the PS3 or Wii, Halo Reach could possibly even be done on PS3. Seriously if the lemms want Unxharted 2 so bad they should know it's 1st party, no gamer should miss out on such a gem and since the PS3 just had a price cut, you know what I'm getting at ;)

PS3 and 360 have a completely different architecture, Koijma once stated that porting MGS4 on 360 could be done but the game needs to be heavily modified thus the final product may differ. So end this thread and lets stop repeating outrselfs. Lemms just want to bash Blu-ray in this thread, if MS adopts Blu-ray next gen it would be utter fail for the lemms if they support it. Blu-ray FTW!
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#92 skektek
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[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]like i said before, uncharted can be done on the 360 just compress it or put it on 2 discs, problem solved.mythrol

Continuing with that logic U2 (or any game for that matter) could be done on the Wii or the DS.

If Blu-Ray = better graphics then why does the Wii not have equal graphics to the 360? They both use DVD's?

I never said that. Blu-ray = less restrictions.

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insecurity at it's finest. Let me clear this up, any game can run on any system but that doen't mrean it will be as good or the same. I'm sure Crysis coud be made for the PS3 or Wii, Halo Reach could possibly even be done on PS3. Seriously if the lemms want Unxharted 2 so bad they should know it's 1st party, no gamer should miss out on such a gem and since the PS3 just had a price cut, you know what I'm getting at ;)

PS3 and 360 have a completely different architecture, Koijma once stated that porting MGS4 on 360 could be done but the game needs to be heavily modified thus the final product may differ. So end this thread and lets stop repeating outrselfs. Lemms just want to bash Blu-ray in this thread, if MS adopts Blu-ray next gen it would be utter fail for the lemms if they support it. Blu-ray FTW!Swift_Boss_A
Don't worry Microsoft I believe is actually aiming for the future which will be DD. Sony won the format war at a time when formats are being phased out congrats guys.

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#94 skektek
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What's sad is xbox360 games are still comparable to ps3 games and none of those's games have graphics engine built only for 360 like ps3's games.smokedagoodyo

Comparable? I see lots of topics about PS3 "graphics king": Uncharted, Uncharted 2, MGS4, Killzone2, GT5, GOW 3, Heavy Rain, etc People have to constantly defend Crysis against PS3 exclusives. I don't see that happening with 360 games.

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#95 mythrol
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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="skektek"]

Continuing with that logic U2 (or any game for that matter) could be done on the Wii or the DS.

skektek

If Blu-Ray = better graphics then why does the Wii not have equal graphics to the 360? They both use DVD's?

I never said that. Blu-ray = less restrictions.

Less restrictions or more due to load times being slower? The 360 wasn't restricted at all with games like Lost Odyssey. They spanned 4 discs just fine.
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#96 mythrol
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insecurity at it's finest. Let me clear this up, any game can run on any system but that doen't mean it will be as good or the same. I'm sure Crysis coud be made for the PS3 or Wii, Halo Reach could possibly even be done on PS3. Seriously if the lemms want Unxharted 2 so bad they should know it's 1st party, no gamer should miss out on such a gem and since the PS3 just had a price cut, you know what I'm getting at ;)

PS3 and 360 have a completely different architecture, Koijma once stated that porting MGS4 on 360 could be done but the game needs to be heavily modified thus the final product may differ. So end this thread and lets stop repeating outrselfs. Lemms just want to bash Blu-ray in this thread, if MS adopts Blu-ray next gen it would be utter fail for the lemms if they support it. Blu-ray FTW!Swift_Boss_A

I'm not against Blu-Ray itself, now that it's won. I'm against Sony only putting a 2x's Blu-Ray drive in PS3's.

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[QUOTE="smokedagoodyo"]What's sad is xbox360 games are still comparable to ps3 games and none of those's games have graphics engine built only for 360 like ps3's games.skektek

Comparable? I see lots of topics about PS3 "graphics king": Uncharted, Uncharted 2, MGS4, Killzone2, GT5, GOW 3, Heavy Rain, etc People have to constantly defend Crysis against PS3 exclusives. I don't see that happening with 360 games.

It's actually due to the fact that Cows are more insecure and dillusional, I mean honestly Uncharted>Crysis :lol: what planet are these Cows even from :lol:

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#98 smokedagoodyo
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[QUOTE="smokedagoodyo"]What's sad is xbox360 games are still comparable to ps3 games and none of those's games have graphics engine built only for 360 like ps3's games.skektek

Comparable? I see lots of topics about PS3 "graphics king": Uncharted, Uncharted 2, MGS4, Killzone2, GT5, GOW 3, Heavy Rain, etc People have to constantly defend Crysis against PS3 exclusives. I don't see that happening with 360 games.

gears of war has better textures than all of those ps3 games.
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#99 skektek
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[QUOTE="mythrol"] If Blu-Ray = better graphics then why does the Wii not have equal graphics to the 360? They both use DVD's?mythrol

I never said that. Blu-ray = less restrictions.

Less restrictions or more due to load times being slower? The 360 wasn't restricted at all with games like Lost Odyssey. They spanned 4 discs just fine.

The PS3 has a standard HDD, a slower optical drive is moot (just look at Batman:AA). It was restricted by the fact that it came of 4 discs instead of one. The developer had to take extra time and expense to master the game for 4 discs. Not to mention that each copy sold costs the publisher a bit more vs one disc.
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#100 skektek
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[QUOTE="smokedagoodyo"]What's sad is xbox360 games are still comparable to ps3 games and none of those's games have graphics engine built only for 360 like ps3's games.sexy_robot_man

Comparable? I see lots of topics about PS3 "graphics king": Uncharted, Uncharted 2, MGS4, Killzone2, GT5, GOW 3, Heavy Rain, etc People have to constantly defend Crysis against PS3 exclusives. I don't see that happening with 360 games.

It's actually due to the fact that Cows are more insecure and dillusional, I mean honestly Uncharted>Crysis :lol: what planet are these Cows even from :lol:

Actually most of the threads say CONSOLE, but its the insecure PC fanboys that feel the need to come in and spam Crysys pics.