Uncharted 2 Using Blu-Ray To Outperform Xbox360

[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="skektek"]

I never said that. Blu-ray = less restrictions.

skektek

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]PS3 and 360 have a completely different architecture, Koijma once stated that porting MGS4 on 360 could be done but the game needs to be heavily modified thus the final product may differ. So end this thread and lets stop repeating outrselfs. Lemms just want to bash Blu-ray in this thread, if MS adopts Blu-ray next gen it would be utter fail for the lemms if they support it. Blu-ray FTW!mythrol

I'm not against Blu-Ray itself, now that it's won. I'm against Sony only putting a 2x's Blu-Ray drive in PS3's.

[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="skektek"]

I never said that. Blu-ray = less restrictions.

skektek

A slower optical drive is not moot. It requires either mandatory installs or some hybrid system of loading data to HDD's to make up for the lack of transfer rates. Lost Odyssey was not restricted in the least by DVD. It just spanned more discs.

The game is still the same as it would had it fit on 1 disc. Blu-Ray discs cost much more to make than DVD's. Your point is moot.

ps3 exclusives use very little parallax mapping/bump/normal maps. killzone2 uses some but not much most just flat detailess textures. same with uncharted. gears of war looks alot more next gen even if the shadowing isnt as good.smokedagoodyo

They use them, they just use them better.

The folds in Nathan's shirt aren't modeled they are normal/bump mapped.

[QUOTE="skektek"][QUOTE="mythrol"] Less restrictions or more due to load times being slower? The 360 wasn't restricted at all with games like Lost Odyssey. They spanned 4 discs just fine.mythrol

A slower optical drive is not moot. It requires either mandatory installs or some hybrid system of loading data to HDD's to make up for the lack of transfer rates. Lost Odyssey was not restricted in the least by DVD. It just spanned more discs.

The game is still the same as it would had it fit on 1 disc. Blu-Ray discs cost much more to make than DVD's. Your point is moot.

/facepalm NS, thats what makes it moot. Caching to the standard HDD negates the slow 2x read speed.

No the game isn't the same. There are additional logistics involved in mastering a game so it will run off of multiple discs. This isn't to say that the end user will see a difference but it costs additional time and expense to the developer.

Initially there was a few cents difference in the cost of producing a Blu-ray vs DVD, but now there is no measurable difference. They are even produced on the same line. The only real difference is the additional hard coating step.

[QUOTE="smokedagoodyo"]ps3 exclusives use very little parallax mapping/bump/normal maps. killzone2 uses some but not much most just flat detailess textures. same with uncharted. gears of war looks alot more next gen even if the shadowing isnt as good.skektek

They use them, they just use them better.

The folds in Nathan's shirt aren't modeled they are normal/bump mapped.

Lack of Blu-Ray didn't stop 360 from getting FFXIII, Star Ocean 4, Blue Dragon, nor Lost Oddessey. HDD instalallations especially mandatory ones make no sense to me on the PS3. I would think that the Blu-Ray disc was made to circumvent the idea of HDD installations. PC has games that are more vast then console games and it doesn't use Blu-Ray. It uses a combination of DVD + HDD. So in the end if anything is holding 360 back its not the lack of Blu-Ray it would be the lack of a standard HDD in all systems.

hip hop gamer show.

A. hes an obvious ps3 fanboy

B. hes an idiot and has no idea what hes talking about 100% of the time

He should learn how to speak english properly before he tries harder things like talking about hardware.

yes i know my grammar is atrocious.

washd123

[QUOTE="mythrol"]

[QUOTE="skektek"] The PS3 has a standard HDD, a slower optical drive is moot (just look at Batman:AA). It was restricted by the fact that it came of 4 discs instead of one. The developer had to take extra time and expense to master the game for 4 discs. Not to mention that each copy sold costs the publisher a bit more vs one disc.skektek

A slower optical drive is not moot. It requires either mandatory installs or some hybrid system of loading data to HDD's to make up for the lack of transfer rates. Lost Odyssey was not restricted in the least by DVD. It just spanned more discs.

The game is still the same as it would had it fit on 1 disc. Blu-Ray discs cost much more to make than DVD's. Your point is moot.

/facepalm NS, thats what makes it moot. Caching to the standard HDD negates the slow 2x read speed.

No the game isn't the same. There are additional logistics involved in mastering a game so it will run off of multiple discs. This isn't to say that the end user will see a difference but it costs additional time and expense to the developer.

Initially there was a few cents difference in the cost of producing a Blu-ray vs DVD, but now there is no measurable difference. They are even produced on the same line. The only real difference is the additional hard coating step.

It doesnt hurt to have blu ray. Its wierd that people are actually making it seem like blu ray is a disadvantage