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Your stats are all based on UC3 being an open beta. The first week of the Gears 3 beta was for Bulletstorm owners and VIP. While everyone on PS3 had access to it. Can`t make it any more simple. Let`s compare the stats when the games release. UC3 will get stomped because 7k people will be playing the MP after a month like UC2.GrawseOh please what he pointed out was very easy to understand. Even that Uncharted 3 did not have a huge lead over GOW3 in number of players,the stats for the game it self reveal that it was incredibly more played than Gears 3,in fact 11 million games were complete on gears 3,while on Uncharted 3 with just 240,000 more players they double Gears of war 3 complete matches by double numbers 22 million,which mean people were playing Uncharted 3 more for more time that Gears 3. Look at the Kills 927 million for gears,1.9 billions for Uncharted 3,1 billion more kills with just 240,000 players more,by % even if Uncharted 3 had the same amount of players of Gears 3 1.29 million,still Uncharted 3 would have rack bigger stats period he % doesn't lie. Also Gears Beta was open to who ever pre order Gears on gamestop also had access to the Beta,mind you that Gears of War 3 was say to be having record pre-orders,add on top Bullet storm users and VIP and there is a ton of people that could have get in. Gears of War 3 is selling for who ever want to buy it,that doesn't mean it will sell 55 million copies,been of easy access by no mean warranty that people will use it more,by your logic Uncharted PS3 should had been download by 50 million,PSN is free so was the beta.
Uncharted 3: Open Beta Gears of War 3: Close Beta Case Closed on that a long time ago. Still awesome numbers and I'm glad to hear (since I couldn't play it) this UC MP might actually be worth sticking to, possibly becoming TPS' MP 1st choice for some.moose_knuckler
This , I cant believe OP is still proudly saying UC got twice in everything - if it didn't it'd be awkward.
Gears has always been more tactical than UC no doubt about that.tagyhagThere is nothing tactical about Gears 3,even from the videos you can see that and team work is a most in any shooter,basically gears tactics are,run dock roll trow grenade shoot,chainsaw if close and possible. Those stats become even more impressive if you take into account,that Gears Beta was open for 28 days,while Uncharted 3 one was open just for 17,11 days less.
:lol: Comparing an open beta vs a closed beta! I would have liked to see the difference had Gears been an open beta! Not to mention that everyone had access to the UC beta before July 5th because everyone got a free month of Playstation Plus and could get the beta early, due to the abomination called the PSN hack! :lol:
[QUOTE="tagyhag"] Gears has always been more tactical than UC no doubt about that.tormentosThere is nothing tactical about Gears 3,even from the videos you can see that and team work is a most in any shooter,basically gears tactics are,run dock roll trow grenade shoot,chainsaw if close and possible.
You've never played Gears, have you?
[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Uncharted 3: Open Beta Gears of War 3: Close Beta Case Closed on that a long time ago. Still awesome numbers and I'm glad to hear (since I couldn't play it) this UC MP might actually be worth sticking to, possibly becoming TPS' MP 1st choice for some.Ironbash
This , I cant believe OP is still proudly saying UC got twice in everything - if it didn't it'd be awkward.
Gears wasn't a close beta. In close betas people can't get in by getting a code from gamestop,every one who pre-order Gears 3 from gamestop got a code,and enter the beta a week after Bullet Storm players,also Bullet Storm i am sure sold more than a million or 2 copies,so there were many codes out there. BY that logic Uncharted 3 should have get 50 million beta testers,it was open and free and online play is free on PS3,the fact that something is open and another thing is believe to be close in nothing matter toward numbers,all sony games can be access by buying them,just like the xbox ones,that doesn't mean every one will buy all games the same.You've never played Gears, have you?waltefmoneyThe first 2 actually,and most of what people do is dock roll is the most used tactic on Gears,they can't walk 10 paces without doing a roll,add the shotgun+perfect reload+ host advantage and tactics mean nothing on Gears,deny it if you want.
[QUOTE="Ironbash"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Uncharted 3: Open Beta Gears of War 3: Close Beta Case Closed on that a long time ago. Still awesome numbers and I'm glad to hear (since I couldn't play it) this UC MP might actually be worth sticking to, possibly becoming TPS' MP 1st choice for some.tormentos
This , I cant believe OP is still proudly saying UC got twice in everything - if it didn't it'd be awkward.
Gears wasn't a close beta. In close betas people can't get in by getting a code from gamestop,every one who pre-order Gears 3 from gamestop got a code,and enter the beta a week after Bullet Storm players,also Bullet Storm i am sure sold more than a million or 2 copies,so there were many codes out there. BY that logic Uncharted 3 should have get 50 million beta testers,it was open and free and online play is free on PS3,the fact that something is open and another thing is believe to be close in nothing matter toward numbers,all sony games can be access by buying them,just like the xbox ones,that doesn't mean every one will buy all games the same.OWNED? :lol:
http://twitter.com/#!/xbox_news/statuses/43855956928495616
http://3anime.com/gears-of-war-3-closed-beta-to-start-in-april-18/2752
"In the Gears of War 3 Closed beta, There will be three game modes that is expected to launch, Team Deathmatch, King of the Hill, and Capture the Leader. Four new Maps will be first released in the Gears of War 3 Closed Beta."
I loved the beta. Didn't play it constantly but loved it nonetheless. Though flawed, the game is pure fun.
My favorite of the game........ the Falcon Punch!!! I show it in a video HERE
[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]You've never played Gears, have you?tormentosThe first 2 actually,and most of what people do is dock roll is the most used tactic on Gears,they can't walk 10 paces without doing a roll,add the shotgun+perfect reload+ host advantage and tactics mean nothing on Gears,deny it if you want.
The whole idea of Gears MP is to use teamwork. The question stands.
I loved the beta. Didn't play it constantly but loved it nonetheless. Though flawed, the game is pure fun.
My favorite of the game........ the Falcon Punch!!! I show it in a video HERE
TruthBToldShow
Quit advertising your Youtube channel on Gamespot.... :roll:
Gears Beta was far from close. Remember that Gears got record pre-orders,pre-orders make on gamestop allowed access to the Beta,not only that the few million who bough Bullet Storm also had a code,it was far from close,when you could just get a code by putting $5 down toward gears and you did not even had to buy the game. You are grasping dude.. Close beta or not,that doesn't explain Gear Of war 3 low number in stats vs Uncharted 3,when you consider that UC3 just had 240,000 more,yet raked 22 million games while gears online got 11 million half,worst for Gears 3 because the Beta was open for far longer than than UC3 one. So is like this. Uncharted 3 = 22 million games completed in 17 days. Gears of War 3 = 11 million games completed in 28 days. No matter how you slice it,240,000 are way to small to make such a huge difference in %,the real truth is that Uncharted 3 was more played by PS3 fans for longer sections than Gears3. UC3 gamers player were spending more time on UC3,than Gears 3 fans were spending on Gears 3,stats don't lie UC3,spanked Gears stats with a whopping 11 days less of play time.:lol: Comparing an open beta vs a closed beta! I would have liked to see the difference had Gears been an open beta! Not to mention that everyone had access to the UC beta before July 5th because everyone got a free month of Playstation Plus and could get the beta early, due to the abomination called the PSN hack! :lol:
BloodyFalcon007
The whole idea of Gears MP is to use teamwork. The question stands.waltefmoneyAll shooter require team work dude,from Warhawk to Resistance,from Halo to Gears,Socom,COD all require team work Uncharted is not different either,which bring me to the second point,team work and Party Chat don't mix well,reason why Activison even turn it off in some mode on COD if i am not mistaken. Party chat restrict your ability to talk to team mates. If you are party chatting it mean you are talking with people out side the game you are playing,if i want to communicate with you,i can't because you are talking to other people out side the game we are playing.Which basically kill any team work effort. It happen to me on Gears,and on Halo Reach as well,and it will happen again when i buy Gears 3 and a 3 month pass to play the game latter on.
All shooter require team work dude,from Warhawk to Resistance,from Halo to Gears,Socom,COD all require team work Uncharted is not different either,which bring me to the second point,team work and Party Chat don't mix well,reason why Activison even turn it off in some mode on COD if i am not mistaken. Party chat restrict your ability to talk to team mates. If you are party chatting it mean you are talking with people out side the game you are playing,if i want to communicate with you,i can't because you are talking to other people out side the game we are playing.Which basically kill any team work effort. It happen to me on Gears,and on Halo Reach as well,and it will happen again when i buy Gears 3 and a 3 month pass to play the game latter on.tormentos
Did you just try to justify PSN's lack of party chat in a discussion about Gears of War?
Did you not see this post?"In the Gears of War 3, There will be three game modes that is expected to launch, Team Deathmatch, King of the Hill, and Capture the Leader. Four new Maps will be first released in the Gears of War 3 BloodyFalcon007They call it that way is not close in any way,if it was close how could any one enter with just a pre-order of gears.? But i am glad that you focus just on that,and completely ignore the fact that with just 240,000 more players UC3 spanked Gears 3 stats,even that it was open 11 days less,spin it in every way you like. Going by % Uncharted 3 was averagely more played by every single player than Gears 3,and in 11 days less to make the insult worst,the close beta excuse justify the 1.29 million players,but not the low stats.
[QUOTE="BloodyFalcon007"]Did you not see this post?"In the Gears of War 3, There will be three game modes that is expected to launch, Team Deathmatch, King of the Hill, and Capture the Leader. Four new Maps will be first released in the Gears of War 3 tormentosThey call it that way is not close in any way,if it was close how could any one enter with just a pre-order of gears.? But i am glad that you focus just on that,and completely ignore the fact that with just 240,000 more players UC3 spanked Gears 3 stats,even that it was open 11 days less,spin it in every way you like. Going by % Uncharted 3 was averagely more played by every single player than Gears 3,and in 11 days less to make the insult worst,the close beta excuse justify the 1.29 million players,but not the low stats.
I'm glad you completely ignore what was stated by Microsoft in that Gears 3 was a closed beta. No matter how you try and justify things it was closed.
[QUOTE="BloodyFalcon007"][QUOTE="TruthBToldShow"]
I loved the beta. Didn't play it constantly but loved it nonetheless. Though flawed, the game is pure fun.
My favorite of the game........ the Falcon Punch!!! I show it in a video HERE
TruthBToldShow
Quit advertising your Youtube channel on Gamespot.... :roll:
Mind your own. People advertise or promote things all the time in their sig..... its the purpose for having it. But thanks for the reply and the opportunity for me to post this sig up in this thread another time. Next, time, try sticking to the subject at hand.
And it's allowed in your sig or on your blog. No need to make up your own rules.
Gears has always been more tactical than UC no doubt about that. What does that even mean? :|[QUOTE="Androvinus"]average of 24 bullets to kill a person in each game :P. It also seems that uncharted is much more fast paced than gears. Oh well.tagyhag
anyone could actually get in the gears beta if they really wanted even without a pre order :P Close beta mean invite only something gears was not.
Did you just try to justify PSN's lack of party chat in a discussion about Gears of War?waltefmoneylol... I don't even know how you can get that from what i wrote. You know why i bring party chat,because you are actually implying that Gear of war has to be play with team work in mind,which is how all shooters should be play by the way,but Party Chat is a team work killer. Give you a nice example quite easy to see. We are playing demolition on MW2,in that mode you have to plant a bomb in a specific place,if you are the one in charge of not allowing the bomb to be plant,you are on the defensive with other player trying to block routes of access to where the bomb will be plant,another team mate is guarding the place where the bomb can be plant,if he gets kill and the person that kills it start to plant the bomb,how would you know the bomb is been plant if you are chatting with people out side the game. Even that the person who got kill is trying to tell you that the bomb is been planted and he is asking for help,you don't hear him you are party chatting with other people not playing the game.
anyone could actually get in the gears beta if they really wanted even without a pre order :P Close beta mean invite only something gears was not.
GTSaiyanjin2
It was invite. You had to buy Bulletstorm "360 EPIC Edition" or Pre order the game to get the invite. It wasn't open to the public so everyone could play for free...
I'm glad you completely ignore what was stated by Microsoft in that Gears 3 was a closed beta. No matter how you try and justify things it was closed. BloodyFalcon007Here is something to ease your pain. 22 million divided by 1.5 million peoples = 14.6 11 million divided by 1.29 million people = 8.5 Been close or open is irrelevant,UC3 players played and average of 6 games more per person than Gears 3 players. 22 million divided between 17 days = 1,294,117. games daily. 11 million divided by 28 days = 392,857 games daily. But lets go further,let pretend than Gears actually has 1,5 million players and than Uncharted 3 has 1.29 million...lol 1.5 million multiply by 8.5 = 12,750,000 played games more or less because i am going by just 8.5 which are the first 2 number of the division. 1.29 million multiply by 14.6 =18,834,000 played games again more or less because i am going by the first 2 numbers of the division. No matter how you slice it,Uncharted 3 even with less players than Gears 3 would have spanked it,because the % was higher per player,and not just the number of players.
Well to be fair quite frankly, GEARS of War only hasa good userbase in US and uk. while uncharted fanbase is spread all around the world. gears1 and 2 did not see release in germany (360 sales over there are terrible). With that being said, Gears is a tedious multiplayer game. I only liked the horde mode. everything else was clunky and frustrating.
Lol the beta king. I can see it now. How low can SW go, tune in next week.
dommeus
I know. Kind of sad how people are using this for ownage.
What exactly are you trying to prove showing Uncharted 3's beta got more players. Gears is gonna annihilate Uncharted in actual sales. Uncharted's single player will probably be better though.
SP might be better but Gears SP is more fun to me and but maybe thats cause I play it in coop :D Gears 3 will annihilate UC3, period. in every way that matters, sales and gameplayWhat exactly are you trying to prove showing Uncharted 3's beta got more players. Gears is gonna annihilate Uncharted in actual sales. Uncharted's single player will probably be better though.
tryagainlater
I believe the initial point was that PS3 owners actually play game, despite 360 fanboys claiming the beta just sat there on everyone's XMB because PS3 owners don't play games.What exactly are you trying to prove showing Uncharted 3's beta got more players. Gears is gonna annihilate Uncharted in actual sales. tryagainlater
Nobody here ever said Uncharted would sell more. I realize the thought of someone saying this greatly afflicts with some people's emotions, but I don't believe anyone has said that in this whole thread. >.>
[QUOTE="BloodyFalcon007"]I'm glad you completely ignore what was stated by Microsoft in that Gears 3 was a closed beta. No matter how you try and justify things it was closed. tormentosHere is something to ease your pain. 22 million divided by 1.5 million peoples = 14.6 11 million divided by 1.29 million people = 8.5 Been close or open is irrelevant,UC3 players played and average of 6 games more per person than Gears 3 players. 22 million divided between 17 days = 1,294,117. games daily. 11 million divided by 28 days = 392,857 games daily. But lets go further,let pretend than Gears actually has 1,5 million players and than Uncharted 3 has 1.29 million...lol 1.5 million multiply by 8.5 = 12,750,000 played games more or less because i am going by just 8.5 which are the first 2 number of the division. 1.29 million multiply by 14.6 =18,834,000 played games again more or less because i am going by the first 2 numbers of the division. No matter how you slice it,Uncharted 3 even with less players than Gears 3 would have spanked it,because the % was higher per player,and not just the number of players. You do realize matches in both games don't last the same amount of time and total number of kills you need win are not the same right? You're comparing apples to oranges. I could also bring up the lack of a down system in uc3 which skews the number of kills.
[QUOTE="tryagainlater"]SP might be better but Gears SP is more fun to me and but maybe thats cause I play it in coop :D Gears 3 will annihilate UC3, period. in every way that matters, sales and gameplayWhat exactly are you trying to prove showing Uncharted 3's beta got more players. Gears is gonna annihilate Uncharted in actual sales. Uncharted's single player will probably be better though.
LanceSSJ
Opinions Opninions. Thats why uncharted smokes alot of games when it came down to game of the year awards. Gears 1 and 2 sold 5 million copies as of the last update. Uncharted 1 sold 3.5 million and counting while Uncharted 2 as crossed the 4 million mark and counting. people act as if gears does halo numbers or something. it does not.
SP might be better but Gears SP is more fun to me and but maybe thats cause I play it in coop :D Gears 3 will annihilate UC3, period. in every way that matters, sales and gameplay[QUOTE="LanceSSJ"][QUOTE="tryagainlater"]
What exactly are you trying to prove showing Uncharted 3's beta got more players. Gears is gonna annihilate Uncharted in actual sales. Uncharted's single player will probably be better though.
Blaze-Agent
Opinions Opninions. Thats why uncharted smokes alot of games when it came down to game of the year awards. Gears 1 and 2 sold 5 million copies as of the last update. Uncharted 1 sold 3.5 million and counting while Uncharted 2 as crossed the 4 million mark and counting. people act as if gears does halo numbers or something. it does not.
Has uc ever won a goty award here?[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"][QUOTE="LanceSSJ"] SP might be better but Gears SP is more fun to me and but maybe thats cause I play it in coop :D Gears 3 will annihilate UC3, period. in every way that matters, sales and gameplayMFDOOM1983
Opinions Opninions. Thats why uncharted smokes alot of games when it came down to game of the year awards. Gears 1 and 2 sold 5 million copies as of the last update. Uncharted 1 sold 3.5 million and counting while Uncharted 2 as crossed the 4 million mark and counting. people act as if gears does halo numbers or something. it does not.
Has uc ever won a goty award here?who cares? its won more GOTY awards than the Gears of war series. How do you spin the amount of years worth of play for both games? Gears 3 beta has 249 years, while unchated 3 beta as 362 years worth of play. Gears 3 beta lasted a month, UC3 beta lasted 17 days. How do you spin these figures. tke it for what it is and move on.
Holy ice cream on a driveway in the 4th of July, people cannot aim at all. Luckily I used the Dragon Snpier, so no spray and pray for me :D.
TrapJak
Considering the recoil in that game, I'm nor surprised there are a lot of shots fired. Ever try shooting a player far away with the AK47 in time before they run away? You'll end up missing a lot of shots.
[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"][QUOTE="LanceSSJ"] SP might be better but Gears SP is more fun to me and but maybe thats cause I play it in coop :D Gears 3 will annihilate UC3, period. in every way that matters, sales and gameplayMFDOOM1983
Opinions Opninions. Thats why uncharted smokes alot of games when it came down to game of the year awards. Gears 1 and 2 sold 5 million copies as of the last update. Uncharted 1 sold 3.5 million and counting while Uncharted 2 as crossed the 4 million mark and counting. people act as if gears does halo numbers or something. it does not.
Has uc ever won a goty award here?No,but it has won 120.Please Log In to post.
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