Uncharted 3 is by far more superior technically than Gears of War 3

I have not played either, but I have beaten Gears 2 and I played the demo for Uncharted 2 when I was updating a PS3 for the Youth Center. I didn't like Uncharted 2 much at all. It felt incredibly linear, and from what I've seen, the rest of it looked about the same. But then, I didn't care extensively for Gears either. But I'm assuming that both games expanded on what they had, so I would hope that both Gears 3 and Uncharted 3 are both great games.

bub166

Yeah, I know a lot of people that don't like Uncharted since it's linear. It makes sense ;) that's a big drawback for it.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Nope, I didn't play Gears of War 3 because I don't have an Xbox 360.

XVision84

Then how on Earth can you even reasonably compare the two? I mean, unless you're just heavily biased towards...oh, I've answered my own question.

Wow, people are on high guard trying to take me down O_o I asked for moments in Gears 3 showing its tech that stick out more than Uncharted 3. People could not find any, and I don't need to actually play the game in order to see gameplay.

I think because Gears doesn't have to show off to be great. U3 felt like a tech demo sometimes putting all those physics objects everywhere and those useless moments like the one walking across the sand as if to say "ooh look what we can do". GoWIII (god of war) had crazy stuff like that too with awesome zoom outs but they served a purpose like fighting on a titans hand or chest. But U3's were just useless. just to look at really

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] If you are referring to the walk in the desert, I can't believe u liked that. I was gritting my teeth thinking why is this not just a cut scene what's the point here?seanmcloughlin

I liked that for the sheer sense of scale. It was linear, I'll give you that, but it was still stunning. I would say that Uncharted's linearity did stick out a little more in Uncharted 3 than the other Uncharted games, but I don't mind that so it wasn't a problem for me.

The problem is U2 is linear but very very focused story wise. U3 is even more linear almost and is a shambles. The story and pacing are very disjointed and all over the place.

I agree. Uncharted 2 had better pacing than Uncharted 3, and they at least tried to hide the linearity (in a way) in Uncharted 2. I would say that they wanted a more ambitious story with Uncharted 3, but that ended up biting them in the end.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

I liked that for the sheer sense of scale. It was linear, I'll give you that, but it was still stunning. I would say that Uncharted's linearity did stick out a little more in Uncharted 3 than the other Uncharted games, but I don't mind that so it wasn't a problem for me.

XVision84

The problem is U2 is linear but very very focused story wise. U3 is even more linear almost and is a shambles. The story and pacing are very disjointed and all over the place.

I agree. Uncharted 2 had better pacing than Uncharted 3, and they at least tried to hide the linearity (in a way) in Uncharted 2. I would say that they wanted a more ambitious story with Uncharted 3, but that ended up biting them in the end.

No there isn't, but you don't seem to know what technology means in terms of games. The whole game is one massive scripted event, so don't even try and play the I wasn't talking about that card.

millerlight89

I'm not playing any cards, I'm telling you what I was talking about in my OP. I'd rather you didn't question my knowledge of technology in games, because I'm very sure I know more than enough.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Then how on Earth can you even reasonably compare the two? I mean, unless you're just heavily biased towards...oh, I've answered my own question.

seanmcloughlin

Wow, people are on high guard trying to take me down O_o I asked for moments in Gears 3 showing its tech that stick out more than Uncharted 3. People could not find any, and I don't need to actually play the game in order to see gameplay.

I think because Gears doesn't have to show off to be great. U3 felt like a tech demo sometimes putting all those physics objects everywhere and those useless moments like the one walking across the sand as if to say "ooh look what we can do". GoWIII (god of war) had crazy stuff like that too with awesome zoom outs but they served a purpose like fighting on a titans hand or chest. But U3's were just useless. just to look at really

I liked them, but I'm a sucker for those anyways ;) I never doubted that Gears 3 was great, because it is a great game :).

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="XVision84"]

It seems like you're completely missing the point of a discussion forum. If everyone did what you said, there would be no discussion about games...flawed logic is flawed :o

XVision84

Manchild? Dear god, are you having a bad day or something? Or have you not seen the technical comparisons of games in System Wars ever since the beginning of System Wars? I would only be biased if I wasn't willing to accept that Gears 3 is better than Uncharted 3. From what I've seen, it isn't, but if I can be proven otherwise, then I'd gladly state otherwise.

-In uncharted banwagon? check

-hasn't played gears? check

-no real argument in forum? check

-wanting some attention? check

-doesn't own a 360? pics or it didn't happen - check

-feels the need to answer to every comment that disagrees with him/her? check

Yep, my accusations seem to be on point.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

The problem is U2 is linear but very very focused story wise. U3 is even more linear almost and is a shambles. The story and pacing are very disjointed and all over the place.

Phazevariance

I agree. Uncharted 2 had better pacing than Uncharted 3, and they at least tried to hide the linearity (in a way) in Uncharted 2. I would say that they wanted a more ambitious story with Uncharted 3, but that ended up biting them in the end.

I wish I could play Gears 3, chances are I won't be playing it anytime soon. Like I said before, you don't really need to play the game to see gameplay, and from what I've seen; I just don't see any moments that stick out. I was just asking for some videos or examples or anything that proved otherwise since a lot of people believe that Gears 3 is much better on that level than Uncharted 3.

i love how people call uncharted linear, gears of war 3 is also a linear experience.

I'd rather you didn't question my knowledge of technology in games,XVision84

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

I liked that for the sheer sense of scale. It was linear, I'll give you that, but it was still stunning. I would say that Uncharted's linearity did stick out a little more in Uncharted 3 than the other Uncharted games, but I don't mind that so it wasn't a problem for me.

XVision84

The problem is U2 is linear but very very focused story wise. U3 is even more linear almost and is a shambles. The story and pacing are very disjointed and all over the place.

I agree. Uncharted 2 had better pacing than Uncharted 3, and they at least tried to hide the linearity (in a way) in Uncharted 2. I would say that they wanted a more ambitious story with Uncharted 3, but that ended up biting them in the end.

They built U2 from the ground up and worked out things in a "as you go" way but U3 they said they designed the set pieces first and they wrote the story and fitted the game around them. And it shows way too much and really did bite them in the ass

i love how people call uncharted linear, gears of war 3 is also a linear experience.

Chris_Williams

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

i love how people call uncharted linear, gears of war 3 is also a linear experience.

millerlight89

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"] You're a manchild that has no real arguement, bias is all I see. This forum doesn't discuss games, it's all about the metagame. It seems it's you who doesn't get it.edo-tensei

Manchild? Dear god, are you having a bad day or something? Or have you not seen the technical comparisons of games in System Wars ever since the beginning of System Wars? I would only be biased if I wasn't willing to accept that Gears 3 is better than Uncharted 3. From what I've seen, it isn't, but if I can be proven otherwise, then I'd gladly state otherwise.

-In uncharted banwagon? check

-hasn't played gears? check

-no real argument in forum? check

-wanting some attention? check

-doesn't own a 360? pics or it didn't happen - check

-feels the need to answer to every comment that disagrees with him/her? check

Yep, my acussations seem to be on point.

1) I'm not in Uncharted because it's a bandwagon, I never get into games because of that. Uncharted is my kind of game, and I love it. There's nothing wrong with that.

2) I haven't played Gears 3, but I don't need to play it in order to see the "amazing moments", although I agree that it's better to play it. Doesn't mean I can't talk about it.

3) I have a real argument, the argument is in the title. Few people have proven otherwise so far, I've only received comments bashing me.

4) That's a big assumption on your part, I'm not one to want attention, but you wouldn't know that since you're having lots of fun trying to attack me.

5) Yep, I don't own a 360. Why's that a problem?

6) Would you rather I didn't reply to comments in a discussion board?

I don't think your accusations are very good ;)

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

i love how people call uncharted linear, gears of war 3 is also a linear experience.

Chris_Williams

Well, seanmcloughlin makes a great point about Uncharted 3's linearity being a much bigger problem that Uncharted 2's.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Yea and that makes Unchatrted's linearity better how?XVision84

Well, seanmcloughlin makes a great point about Uncharted 3's linearity being a much bigger problem that Uncharted 2's.

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Manchild? Dear god, are you having a bad day or something? Or have you not seen the technical comparisons of games in System Wars ever since the beginning of System Wars? I would only be biased if I wasn't willing to accept that Gears 3 is better than Uncharted 3. From what I've seen, it isn't, but if I can be proven otherwise, then I'd gladly state otherwise.

XVision84

-In uncharted banwagon? check

-hasn't played gears? check

-no real argument in forum? check

-wanting some attention? check

-doesn't own a 360? pics or it didn't happen - check

-feels the need to answer to every comment that disagrees with him/her? check

Yep, my acussations seem to be on point.

1) I'm not in Uncharted because it's a bandwagon, I never get into those games because of that. Uncharted is my kind of game, and I love it. There's nothing wrong with that.

2) I haven't played Gears 3, but I don't need to play it in order to see the "amazing moments", although I agree that it's better to play it. Doesn't mean I can't talk about it.

3) I have a real argument, that argument is in the title. Few people have proven otherwise so far, I've only received comments bashing me.

4) That's a big assumption on your part, I'm not one to want attention, but you wouldn't know that since you're having lots of fun trying to attack me.

5) Yep, I don't own a 360. Why's that a problem?

6) Would you rather I didn't reply to comments in a discussion board?

I don't think your accusations are very good ;)

UC is superior because i haven't played GeOW blah, blah, blah. Predictable and expected. You have no point.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] i never said it made it better, i'm just saying that people forget that this is the 3rd game in the series, if your now surprise of how the game plays then i think your just complaining just to be complaining. Chris_Williams

Well, seanmcloughlin makes a great point about Uncharted 3's linearity being a much bigger problem that Uncharted 2's.

No doubt Uncharted 2 was linear, but it was structured well so that the linearity tied into the story. There are moments in Uncharted 3 where you'd think you can go everywhere, but it was made clear that you need to walk a certain path.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

-In uncharted banwagon? check

-hasn't played gears? check

-no real argument in forum? check

-wanting some attention? check

-doesn't own a 360? pics or it didn't happen - check

-feels the need to answer to every comment that disagrees with him/her? check

Yep, my acussations seem to be on point.

edo-tensei

1) I'm not in Uncharted because it's a bandwagon, I never get into those games because of that. Uncharted is my kind of game, and I love it. There's nothing wrong with that.

2) I haven't played Gears 3, but I don't need to play it in order to see the "amazing moments", although I agree that it's better to play it. Doesn't mean I can't talk about it.

3) I have a real argument, that argument is in the title. Few people have proven otherwise so far, I've only received comments bashing me.

4) That's a big assumption on your part, I'm not one to want attention, but you wouldn't know that since you're having lots of fun trying to attack me.

5) Yep, I don't own a 360. Why's that a problem?

6) Would you rather I didn't reply to comments in a discussion board?

I don't think your accusations are very good ;)

UC is superior because i haven't played GeOW blah, blah, blah. Predictable and expected. You have no point.

But I didn't say the game was superior, I said it had much better moments outlining its tech. So far, I haven't seen many people post viable evidence to prove otherwise and discuss both games with me. You're not making much of a point like this, and it seems that you're a little too angry and serious right now.

Good lord was Uncharted 3 a disappointment for me and my god do I hate Gears of War. I want to say Gears 3 is more impressive just because I'm mad at Naugty Dog for putting the focus on the MP. Really hurt the SP.

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

1) I'm not in Uncharted because it's a bandwagon, I never get into those games because of that. Uncharted is my kind of game, and I love it. There's nothing wrong with that.

2) I haven't played Gears 3, but I don't need to play it in order to see the "amazing moments", although I agree that it's better to play it. Doesn't mean I can't talk about it.

3) I have a real argument, that argument is in the title. Few people have proven otherwise so far, I've only received comments bashing me.

4) That's a big assumption on your part, I'm not one to want attention, but you wouldn't know that since you're having lots of fun trying to attack me.

5) Yep, I don't own a 360. Why's that a problem?

6) Would you rather I didn't reply to comments in a discussion board?

I don't think your accusations are very good ;)

UC is superior because i haven't played GeOW blah, blah, blah. Predictable and expected. You have no point.

But I didn't say the game was superior, I said it had much better moments outlining its tech. So far, I haven't seen many people post viable evidence to prove otherwise and discuss both games with me. You're not making much of a point like this, and it seems that you're a little too angry and serious right now.

Good lord was Uncharted 3 a disappointment for me and my god do I hate Gears of War. I want to say Gears 3 is more impressive just because I'm mad at Naugty Dog for putting the focus on the MP. Really hurt the SP.

RandomWinner

Too bad you feel that way, everyone gets that once in a while.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"] They don't have to be good(raw you can call them), they have to be true.

UC is superior because i haven't played GeOW blah, blah, blah. Predictable and expected. You have no point.

edo-tensei

But I didn't say the game was superior, I said it had much better moments outlining its tech. So far, I haven't seen many people post viable evidence to prove otherwise and discuss both games with me. You're not making much of a point like this, and it seems that you're a little too angry and serious right now.

pointless and naive? That's in your opinion ;) it clearly wasn't pointless and naive to me since I posted it, and it sparked some discussion (and I'm not talking about the ones trying to take me down :P).

I haven't seen any gameplay from Gears of War 3 that even matches the many epic moments in Uncharted 3. I don't want to spoil anything, so I'll refrain from saying any of them, but I want to see any moment that's as epic as what was in Uncharted 3. If Epic's idea of a "wow" moment is standing there and shooting the eye of a giant boss, then they need some rethinking IMO. There's no doubt that Gears 3 is a great game, but I haven't seen anything that proves that its singleplayer is even remotely as good as Uncharted 3's.

XVision84

By the way just to be clear are you talking about ACTUAL gameplay from uc3 or cinematic set pieces? Please tell me you don't think that the number of set pieces shows how technically advanced a game is :|

Lol is that what you're saying? No joke whenever I see these debates between these franchises why is it that Gears fans tend to post more IN-GAME stuff as opposed to uncharted fans that post bullshots, set pieces, cinematic sequences, etc.... You tell me which one is more important.

Even when you guys post so-called "gameplay" there's rarely any characters on screen and/or limited action taking place. I mean I might as well be looking at a still painting in a museum. **cue-in Drake walking through the desert** Oh yeah that "moment" is definitely an example of why uc3 is technically superior to gears 3 :roll:

lol UC3 is 2 hours of actual gameplay intermixed with movies, onrails and QTE's....

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="XVision84"]

But I didn't say the game was superior, I said it had much better moments outlining its tech. So far, I haven't seen many people post viable evidence to prove otherwise and discuss both games with me. You're not making much of a point like this, and it seems that you're a little too angry and serious right now.

pointless and naive? That's in your opinion ;) it clearly wasn't pointless and naive to me since I posted it, and it sparked some discussion (and I'm not talking about the ones trying to take me down :P).

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

I haven't seen any gameplay from Gears of War 3 that even matches the many epic moments in Uncharted 3. I don't want to spoil anything, so I'll refrain from saying any of them, but I want to see any moment that's as epic as what was in Uncharted 3. If Epic's idea of a "wow" moment is standing there and shooting the eye of a giant boss, then they need some rethinking IMO. There's no doubt that Gears 3 is a great game, but I haven't seen anything that proves that its singleplayer is even remotely as good as Uncharted 3's.

T-razor1

By the way just to be clear are you talking about ACTUAL gameplay from uc3 or cinematic set pieces? Please tell me you don't think that the number of set pieces shows how technically advanced a game is :|

Lol is that what you're saying? No joke whenever I see these debates between these franchises why is it that Gears fans tend to post more IN-GAME stuff as opposed to uncharted fans that post bullshots, set pieces, cinematic sequences, etc.... You tell me which one is more important.

Even when you guys post so-called "gameplay" there's rarely any characters on screen and/or limited action taking place. I mean I might as well be looking at a still painting in a museum. **cue-in Drake walking through the desert** Oh yeah that "moment" is definitely an example of why uc3 is technically superior to gears 3 :roll:

:lol: Of course I'm not talking about cutscenes, I'm talking about the moments like [spoiler] the desert, collapsing city, the environments, the cities, the airplane moment, the sinking ship, etc. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"] Not more serious than your pointless and naive thread.edo-tensei

pointless and naive? That's in your opinion ;) it clearly wasn't pointless and naive to me since I posted it, and it sparked some discussion (and I'm not talking about the ones trying to take me down :P).

Whatever you say man ;)

By the way just to be clear are you talking about ACTUAL gameplay from uc3 or cinematic set pieces? Please tell me you don't think that the number of set pieces shows how technically advanced a game is :|Lol is that what you're saying? No joke whenever I see these debates between these franchises why is it that Gears fans tend to post more IN-GAME stuff as opposed to uncharted fans that post bullshots, set pieces, cinematic sequences, etc.... You tell me which one is more important.Even when you guys post so-called "gameplay" there's rarely any characters on screen and/or limited action taking place. I mean I might as well be looking at a still painting in a museum. **cue-in Drake walking through the desert** Oh yeah that "moment" is definitely an example of why uc3 is technically superior to gears 3 :roll:T-razor1

TC, it seems like you are asking for scripted events, and not actual technical capabilities of the engine or console. You are stacking the deck in your favor because Gears doesnt rely on heavily scripted gameplay the way uncharted does. You have no idea how narrow UC's focus is. There are tons of place you cant go/view. Just because you can SEE it doesnt mean its there to go, or is being rendered in real time. UE3 is actually rendering more than the UC engine. Its not just about scripted events that you deem to be epic or technically advanced. Any* engine can render an epic scene if its being tightly controlled. Take the Alone in the Dark game. It had entire buildings crashing down and tearing up. Doesnt mean it was technically advanced.

I haven't played either game myself, but I watched my friend play a chapter of UC3. I'm really shocked at how common QTE showed up. My friend really likes QTE, especially when you have to mash a button, and I cannot understand why.ActionRemix

Many of the QTE moments are tense, and I liked the combat, but I also found some QTE moments to be a bit much. It really depends on preference, but I agree that it could have done without some QTE moments.

TC, it seems like you are asking for scripted events, and not actual technical capabilities of the engine or console. You are stacking the deck in your favor because Gears doesnt rely on heavily scripted gameplay the way uncharted does. You have no idea how narrow UC's focus is. There are tons of place you cant go/view. Just because you can SEE it doesnt mean its there to go, or is being rendered in real time. UE3 is actually rendering more than the UC engine. Its not just about scripted events that you deem to be epic or technically advanced. Any* engine can render an epic scene if its being tightly controlled. Take the Alone in the Dark game. It had entire buildings crashing down and tearing up. Doesnt mean it was technically advanced.

navyguy21

I know all of that, I just want to see some technical marvels is all, scripted or not :P. Uncharted is fairly linear, but they still did a great job with a lot of the details in Uncharted 3. Of course, Naughty Dog's engine isn't exactly the best, but they do well with it so it's good enough. It's much like God of War 3 where you see titans and huge environments, but you can't go to those places.

:lol: Of course I'm not talking about cutscenes, I'm talking about the moments like....

XVision84

TC, it seems like you are asking for scripted events, and not actual technical capabilities of the engine or console. You are stacking the deck in your favor because Gears doesnt rely on heavily scripted gameplay the way uncharted does. You have no idea how narrow UC's focus is. There are tons of place you cant go/view. Just because you can SEE it doesnt mean its there to go, or is being rendered in real time. UE3 is actually rendering more than the UC engine. Its not just about scripted events that you deem to be epic or technically advanced. Any* engine can render an epic scene if its being tightly controlled. Take the Alone in the Dark game. It had entire buildings crashing down and tearing up. Doesnt mean it was technically advanced.

navyguy21

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

TC, it seems like you are asking for scripted events, and not actual technical capabilities of the engine or console. You are stacking the deck in your favor because Gears doesnt rely on heavily scripted gameplay the way uncharted does. You have no idea how narrow UC's focus is. There are tons of place you cant go/view. Just because you can SEE it doesnt mean its there to go, or is being rendered in real time. UE3 is actually rendering more than the UC engine. Its not just about scripted events that you deem to be epic or technically advanced. Any* engine can render an epic scene if its being tightly controlled. Take the Alone in the Dark game. It had entire buildings crashing down and tearing up. Doesnt mean it was technically advanced.

XVision84

I know all of that, I just want to see some technical marvels is all, scripted or not :P. Uncharted is fairly linear, but they still did a great job with a lot of the details in Uncharted 3. Of course, Naughty Dog's engine isn't exactly the best, but they do well with it so it's good enough. It's much like God of War 3 where you see titans and huge environments, but you can't go to those places.

Ok, here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsGw_2xZE9o

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

TC, it seems like you are asking for scripted events, and not actual technical capabilities of the engine or console. You are stacking the deck in your favor because Gears doesnt rely on heavily scripted gameplay the way uncharted does. You have no idea how narrow UC's focus is. There are tons of place you cant go/view. Just because you can SEE it doesnt mean its there to go, or is being rendered in real time. UE3 is actually rendering more than the UC engine. Its not just about scripted events that you deem to be epic or technically advanced. Any* engine can render an epic scene if its being tightly controlled. Take the Alone in the Dark game. It had entire buildings crashing down and tearing up. Doesnt mean it was technically advanced.

navyguy21

I know all of that, I just want to see some technical marvels is all, scripted or not :P. Uncharted is fairly linear, but they still did a great job with a lot of the details in Uncharted 3. Of course, Naughty Dog's engine isn't exactly the best, but they do well with it so it's good enough. It's much like God of War 3 where you see titans and huge environments, but you can't go to those places.

Ok, here you go

I still prefer Uncharted's epic moments overall and I still believe it's superior (technically) than Gears of War 3, but that was great. Lots of great effects going on there, especially the lighting and water (oh those god rays ;)). You were the only one in the thread who actually provided a good example (or any example at all :P) of a nice "technical" moment in Gears 3.

Nah man, Gears is right up there.

For one thing, Gears has fantastic shadows, while Uncharted's are bad.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

I haven't seen any gameplay from Gears of War 3 that even matches the many epic moments in Uncharted 3. I don't want to spoil anything, so I'll refrain from saying any of them, but I want to see any moment that's as epic as what was in Uncharted 3. If Epic's idea of a "wow" moment is standing there and shooting the eye of a giant boss, then they need some rethinking IMO. There's no doubt that Gears 3 is a great game, but I haven't seen anything that proves that its singleplayer is even remotely as good as Uncharted 3's.

TH1Sx1SxSPARTA

I haven't seen any gameplay from Gears of War 3 that even matches the many epic moments in Uncharted 3. I don't want to spoil anything, so I'll refrain from saying any of them, but I want to see any moment that's as epic as what was in Uncharted 3. If Epic's idea of a "wow" moment is standing there and shooting the eye of a giant boss, then they need some rethinking IMO. There's no doubt that Gears 3 is a great game, but I haven't seen anything that proves that its singleplayer is even remotely as good as Uncharted 3's.

XVision84

Gears 3 looks a lot better to me TBH and has art and monsters i prefer by miles over Uncharted 3 earth/humans setting

So, not only Gears 3 looks better, but actually uses these graphics in a setting/art i like

Nice but scripted stuff

How about Crysis 1-2, that do all that in a far bigger scale and non scripted ?

I know the staging in Uncharted is better, but is just because it is all scripted and look more impressive, but technically are not really better at all

Does Uncharted 3 have volumetric smoke like Crysis 2 or leveling a whole forest with full physics like Crysis 1 ? Or nuking a city and all houses be destroyed with actual non scripted physics ?

I have to say Crysis 1-2 look far better technically to me and far more impressive than scripted stuff

Light rays through smoke, reflections, scale etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLwh9S0jtak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-0MWls-C5A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JHVxOgUyDo&feature=related

Nice opinion buddy, but i think both are technically even. Let alone the 'by far' lol

Ok, here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsGw_2xZE9o

navyguy21

I love the way an Uncharted 3 ad plays before the video, how very appropriate.

:lol:

Well TC, since all you want is proof, here it is:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-gears-of-war-3

'Gears 3 is one of the most technically advanced games this generation' Considering both consoles are equally capable, do you honestly think a PS3 game will ever look 'fat superior' to the best looking game on 360?

Both seem tied to me. If something, would give Gears 3 the advantage for moving so many objects on screen, especially when played in coop.

They're equally impressive. I'm talking about Uncharted 2 and Gears of War 3. :P haven't played UC3 yet...Elann2008

U2 is better IMO than U3