it barely looks better than Doom 3 or Half life 2, console gamers have insanely low standards
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After watching my bro play Uncharted 3 last night. I can easily say it's one of the best games visually due to the high consistency. Of course there are better looking PC games, but the consistent quality Uncharted 3 brings to the table overall is top notch. It's not like Battlefield 3 where you have some amazing looking visuals contrasted by random crap textures. The art design, textures, and lighting are amazing.
And I know what you're gonna say, "But mystic, BF3's lighting is the best".
And you're right, BF3's lighting system certainly is the best, but one serious thing I have to fault BF3's lighting is DICE mixing dynamic and pre-baked lighting. You can blow out the lights, but you'll still see some of the lighting across the room from where you blew the light out. That was a horrible thing to do. Why? Because, what's the point of taking a performance hit by making the lights dynamic if ur just gonna pre-baked it into the walls anyways? If you're gonna bake it in, fine, but DICE made a bad decision baking in the lights after making them dynamic just to make things seem a little brighter. The end result is silly where you have a lit room with no lights in it, which kills the whole point of shooting the lights out in the first place which would've made a great tactic. And even then it doesn't sound like a big deal, but I see it ALL the time, so it's quite a noticeable flaw.But maybe I'm going to hard on it, because I'm comparing U3's storyline to BF3's multiplayer. If I compared it to BF3's campaign, it'd probably be no match. But it's hard for me to wanna compare it to BF3's campaign since it's design is so craptastic. All I know is the high consistency of U3's keep you compelled where as BF3's highly inconsistent visuals break me out of the immersion here and there. I say that as a person who loves BF3 and hasn't even played U3 yet, only watched.
Don't get me wrong though, when it comes down to it, many games on PC trump Uncharted 3's visual fidelity. But when it comes to high fidelity along with consistency, Uncharted 3 is hard to beat. Even the almighty Crysis/2 has issues with consistency.
Mystic-G
lol, UC3 is very inconsistent, the textures all suck, the jungle level looks the same as UC1
[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]best animations? hopefully you're not talking gameplay-wise. Uncharted has some of the most unrealistic character animations, drake moves like he is drunk or just too loose, like the guys made of jelly. He doesn't have the realistic stiffness, too much of his body moves. a lot of clipping issues too...like missing frames in animations it isn't smooth enough..hard to explain. Battlefield 3 having the best with the splinter cell games right behind. IMO. drake will only move like a drunk if you control him like a drunk. The game has context sensitive animations for the entire game which are unique for eac environment hes in, id day its pretty impressiveFor me, Uncharted 3 is the best looking game I've ever seen. I'm sure RAGE and BF3 are more technically demanding on PS3, but the end result with Uncharted 3 = amazing consistent textures, tremendous artwork, varied environments, best lighting, superb models, and best animations which makes it the best looking game I've ever seen.
soapandbubbles
[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]
After watching my bro play Uncharted 3 last night. I can easily say it's one of the best games visually due to the high consistency. Of course there are better looking PC games, but the consistent quality Uncharted 3 brings to the table overall is top notch. It's not like Battlefield 3 where you have some amazing looking visuals contrasted by random crap textures. The art design, textures, and lighting are amazing.
And I know what you're gonna say, "But mystic, BF3's lighting is the best".
And you're right, BF3's lighting system certainly is the best, but one serious thing I have to fault BF3's lighting is DICE mixing dynamic and pre-baked lighting. You can blow out the lights, but you'll still see some of the lighting across the room from where you blew the light out. That was a horrible thing to do. Why? Because, what's the point of taking a performance hit by making the lights dynamic if ur just gonna pre-baked it into the walls anyways? If you're gonna bake it in, fine, but DICE made a bad decision baking in the lights after making them dynamic just to make things seem a little brighter. The end result is silly where you have a lit room with no lights in it, which kills the whole point of shooting the lights out in the first place which would've made a great tactic. And even then it doesn't sound like a big deal, but I see it ALL the time, so it's quite a noticeable flaw.But maybe I'm going to hard on it, because I'm comparing U3's storyline to BF3's multiplayer. If I compared it to BF3's campaign, it'd probably be no match. But it's hard for me to wanna compare it to BF3's campaign since it's design is so craptastic. All I know is the high consistency of U3's keep you compelled where as BF3's highly inconsistent visuals break me out of the immersion here and there. I say that as a person who loves BF3 and hasn't even played U3 yet, only watched.
Don't get me wrong though, when it comes down to it, many games on PC trump Uncharted 3's visual fidelity. But when it comes to high fidelity along with consistency, Uncharted 3 is hard to beat. Even the almighty Crysis/2 has issues with consistency.
HaloinventedFPS
lol, UC3 is very inconsistent, the textures all suck, the jungle level looks the same as UC1
The fact that you say the textures suck invalidates you opinion.
I think Gears 3 deserves a lot of praise. Mostly because their gameplay priority was above of graphics. They designed the whole campaign around a 4 player component with 2 player split-screen, as well as a whole horde mode filled with a huge amount of creatures. Still they've managed to make the game look nice.
I agree game looks awesome and i cant wait to get my hands on it. People are so caught up in system warring that they cant stop to appreciate two great gamesI think Gears 3 deserves a lot of praise. Mostly because their gameplay priority was above of graphics. They designed the whole campaing around a 4 player component with 2 playersplit-screen, as well as a whole horde mode filled with a huge amount ofcreatures. Still they've managed to make the game look nice.
Masculus
Lots of PC games have higher rez (such as any game made in the last 10 years) but I can't think of even 1 PC game that has the same level of polish and uses the hardware to its full potential.
UC3 takes terrible hardware and makes it cry for mercy.
PC games take great hardware, turn up the rez, add smoke and say "all done."
I'm looking at videos of UC3 going "wow, I didn't know you could do that on a sucky PS3."
I'm looking at videos of Witcher 2 on PC going "What, it doesn't even look that good."
LolLots of PC games have higher rez (such as any game made in the last 10 years) but I can't think of even 1 PC game that has the same level of polish and uses the hardware to its full potential.
UC3 takes terrible hardware and makes it cry for mercy.
PC games take great hardware, turn up the rez, add smoke and say "all done."
I'm looking at videos of UC3 going "wow, I didn't know you could do that on a sucky PS3."
I'm looking at videos of Witcher 2 on PC going "What, it doesn't even look that good."
ZombieKiller7
Who has said the graphics are "weak" and/or terrible?
Stevo_the_gamer
Witcher 2 has clunky animation and iffy combat.
Console graphics "king". Many PC games look better.
h575309
this! And it leads to aeurogamer credibility --;
[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]
[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]
After watching my bro play Uncharted 3 last night. I can easily say it's one of the best games visually due to the high consistency. Of course there are better looking PC games, but the consistent quality Uncharted 3 brings to the table overall is top notch. It's not like Battlefield 3 where you have some amazing looking visuals contrasted by random crap textures. The art design, textures, and lighting are amazing.
And I know what you're gonna say, "But mystic, BF3's lighting is the best".
And you're right, BF3's lighting system certainly is the best, but one serious thing I have to fault BF3's lighting is DICE mixing dynamic and pre-baked lighting. You can blow out the lights, but you'll still see some of the lighting across the room from where you blew the light out. That was a horrible thing to do. Why? Because, what's the point of taking a performance hit by making the lights dynamic if ur just gonna pre-baked it into the walls anyways? If you're gonna bake it in, fine, but DICE made a bad decision baking in the lights after making them dynamic just to make things seem a little brighter. The end result is silly where you have a lit room with no lights in it, which kills the whole point of shooting the lights out in the first place which would've made a great tactic. And even then it doesn't sound like a big deal, but I see it ALL the time, so it's quite a noticeable flaw.But maybe I'm going to hard on it, because I'm comparing U3's storyline to BF3's multiplayer. If I compared it to BF3's campaign, it'd probably be no match. But it's hard for me to wanna compare it to BF3's campaign since it's design is so craptastic. All I know is the high consistency of U3's keep you compelled where as BF3's highly inconsistent visuals break me out of the immersion here and there. I say that as a person who loves BF3 and hasn't even played U3 yet, only watched.
Don't get me wrong though, when it comes down to it, many games on PC trump Uncharted 3's visual fidelity. But when it comes to high fidelity along with consistency, Uncharted 3 is hard to beat. Even the almighty Crysis/2 has issues with consistency.
Mystic-G
lol, UC3 is very inconsistent, the textures all suck, the jungle level looks the same as UC1
The fact that you say the textures suck invalidates you opinion.
the textures are all low res, i saw better textures in 2004
[QUOTE="h575309"]
Console graphics "king". Many PC games look better.
Blazerdt47
While I do agree PC is obviously better. To the naked eye Uncharted 3 wins every time.
No, have you seen BF3 on PC?
Lots of PC games have higher rez (such as any game made in the last 10 years) but I can't think of even 1 PC game that has the same level of polish and uses the hardware to its full potential.
UC3 takes terrible hardware and makes it cry for mercy.
PC games take great hardware, turn up the rez, add smoke and say "all done."
I'm looking at videos of UC3 going "wow, I didn't know you could do that on a sucky PS3."
I'm looking at videos of Witcher 2 on PC going "What, it doesn't even look that good."
ZombieKiller7
Doom 3, Fear 1, Crysis, were all made for the best PC hardware
they all look better than any console game aswell
On a console? Maybe. The PC still has it beat by a considerable margin though. It's not really a contest.
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]
Who has said the graphics are "weak" and/or terrible?
Pray_to_me
Witcher 2 has clunky animation and iffy combat.
Is this not a thread on graphics?
[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]
[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]
lol, UC3 is very inconsistent, the textures all suck, the jungle level looks the same as UC1
HaloinventedFPS
The fact that you say the textures suck invalidates you opinion.
the textures are all low res, i saw better textures in 2004
Nice opinion bro. Trust me, even BF2 (graphics king of 2005) doesn't come anywhere close to Uncharted 3. Stop being such an elitist.I don't even know what PC gamers are doing Here those games coming from PC are not impressive at all,Uncharted 3 coming from the PS3 is. Which why many site ignored PC games and gave Uncharted 2 awards for graphics,coming from PC which get a new GPU and CPU every year those games are not that impressive. If the PC had those graphics while the PS3 and xbox 360 had similar specs,and both console gave graphics like Uncharted and gears ok,PC gamers had a point but the PS3 and xbox 360 don't have a top of the line GPU and CPU with 4 GB of system ram and 2GB of video ram.tormentos
So, because the PS3 and 360 can't possibly compete with the PC on a technical level, it shouldn't be allowed in graphics debates? Well, forgive me if I think that's a little silly.
The best looking game is Battlefield 3 PC, followed by Crysis PC, Metro 2033 PC, Shogun 2, The Witcher 2, Crysis 2 PC, Arma II, Stalker: CoP, Stalker: CS, Stalker SoC, Far Cry 2 PC, Mirror's Edge PC, Napoleon: Total War, Rage, Dirt 3 PC, Alien Vs Predator PC, Dirt 2 PC, Cryostasis and Assassin's Creed II. Perhaps at number 20 comes Uncharted 3, the best looking console game.
I can only IMAGINE how good Uncharted 3, God of War 3, Killzone 3, Gears of War 3, Red Dead Redemption, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Metal Gear Solid 4 and such would look on PC.
I can completely agree with that. I couldn't even believe they were able to improve the graphics and tech from U2.. But they did in every way.
The game definitely took my breath away on a number of occasions.
I don't even know what PC gamers are doing Here those games coming from PC are not impressive at all,Uncharted 3 coming from the PS3 is. Which why many site ignored PC games and gave Uncharted 2 awards for graphics,coming from PC which get a new GPU and CPU every year those games are not that impressive. If the PC had those graphics while the PS3 and xbox 360 had similar specs,and both console gave graphics like Uncharted and gears ok,PC gamers had a point but the PS3 and xbox 360 don't have a top of the line GPU and CPU with 4 GB of system ram and 2GB of video ram.tormentos
your ignoring the fact that UC3 runs at 30fps, 720p with no aa, still manages to drop below 25
any old PC can run current games at console settings
Crysis on medium still trashes any console game, Shogun 2 is a whole gen ahead, UC3 is smoke and mirrors and scripted events, the graphics are meh aswell
The best looking game is Battlefield 3 PC, followed by Crysis PC, Metro 2033 PC, Shogun 2, The Witcher 2, Crysis 2 PC, Arma II, Stalker: CoP, Stalker: CS, Stalker SoC, Far Cry 2 PC, Mirror's Edge PC, Napoleon: Total War, Rage, Dirt 3 PC, Alien Vs Predator PC, Dirt 2 PC, Cryostasis and Assassin's Creed II. Perhaps at number 20 comes Uncharted 3, the best looking console game.
I can only IMAGINE how good Uncharted 3, God of War 3, Killzone 3, Gears of War 3, Red Dead Redemption, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Metal Gear Solid 4 and such would look on PC.
Mozelleple112
assassins creed games look great on PC, but not on consoles, any console port with the knobs turned up looks better than UC3, Bulletstorm looks amazing on PC for example and its a console port plain and simple
Edit: not to mention modded games, like modded GTA4 and Doom 3 look insane
Even with an analysis from professionals people are still in denial trying to deny Uncharted 3's greatness. Just buy a PS3 and be done with it! :lol:
graphic king and stuff are just terms fanboys use in SW but if you read the article and stop nitpicking so much, DF are subtly saying that this is the best looking game. Period. Now don't come crying if Uncharted 3 wins GOTY too (but I know is gonna be Portal 2 anyway).
[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"]
The fact that you say the textures suck invalidates you opinion.
Mystic-G
the textures are all low res, i saw better textures in 2004
Nice opinion bro. Trust me, even BF2 (graphics king of 2005) doesn't come anywhere close to Uncharted 3. Stop being such an elitist.BF2 looked bad even for its time bro
UC3 has bad textures, you must be blind, have some Doom 3
Even with an analysis from professionals people are still in denial trying to deny Uncharted 3's greatness. Just buy a PS3 and be done with it! :lol:
graphic king and stuff are just terms fanboys use in SW but if you read the article and stop nitpicking so much, DF are subtly saying that this is the best looking game. Period. Now don't come crying if Uncharted 3 wins GOTY too (but I know is gonna be Portal 2 anyway).
Gue1
on consoles maybe, but console fanboys are getting way ahead of themselves by saying it looks better than PC games
Even with an analysis from professionals people are still in denial trying to deny Uncharted 3's greatness. Just buy a PS3 and be done with it! :lol:
graphic king and stuff are just terms fanboys use in SW but if you read the article and stop nitpicking so much, DF are subtly saying that this is the best looking game. Period. Now don't come crying if Uncharted 3 wins GOTY too (but I know is gonna be Portal 2 anyway).
Gue1
So, because a professional said so, everyone must agree with them and a dissenting opinion is nothing more than denial?
[QUOTE="tormentos"]I don't even know what PC gamers are doing Here those games coming from PC are not impressive at all,Uncharted 3 coming from the PS3 is. Which why many site ignored PC games and gave Uncharted 2 awards for graphics,coming from PC which get a new GPU and CPU every year those games are not that impressive. If the PC had those graphics while the PS3 and xbox 360 had similar specs,and both console gave graphics like Uncharted and gears ok,PC gamers had a point but the PS3 and xbox 360 don't have a top of the line GPU and CPU with 4 GB of system ram and 2GB of video ram.HaloinventedFPS
your ignoring the fact that UC3 runs at 30fps, 720p with no aa, still manages to drop below 25
any old PC can run current games at console settings
Crysis on medium still trashes any console game, Shogun 2 is a whole gen ahead, UC3 is smoke and mirrors and scripted events, the graphics are meh aswell
UC3 has AA, mp and sp. Also, smoke and mirrors is just another way of saying "optimization" which is what consoles have been doing since they released all those years ago.if you atually read it they are saying it's ONE OF the best looking game on consoles not the best looking game period,lolEven with an analysis from professionals people are still in denial trying to deny Uncharted 3's greatness. Just buy a PS3 and be done with it! :lol:
graphic king and stuff are just terms fanboys use in SW but if you read the article and stop nitpicking so much, DF are subtly saying that this is the best looking game. Period. Now don't come crying if Uncharted 3 wins GOTY too (but I know is gonna be Portal 2 anyway).
Gue1
I don't even know what PC gamers are doing Here those games coming from PC are not impressive at all,Uncharted 3 coming from the PS3 is. Which why many site ignored PC games and gave Uncharted 2 awards for graphics,coming from PC which get a new GPU and CPU every year those games are not that impressive. If the PC had those graphics while the PS3 and xbox 360 had similar specs,and both console gave graphics like Uncharted and gears ok,PC gamers had a point but the PS3 and xbox 360 don't have a top of the line GPU and CPU with 4 GB of system ram and 2GB of video ram.tormentosOh yes, better tech isn't impressive...
How do graphics evolve again?
[QUOTE="tormentos"]I don't even know what PC gamers are doing Here those games coming from PC are not impressive at all,Uncharted 3 coming from the PS3 is. Which why many site ignored PC games and gave Uncharted 2 awards for graphics,coming from PC which get a new GPU and CPU every year those games are not that impressive. If the PC had those graphics while the PS3 and xbox 360 had similar specs,and both console gave graphics like Uncharted and gears ok,PC gamers had a point but the PS3 and xbox 360 don't have a top of the line GPU and CPU with 4 GB of system ram and 2GB of video ram.FallenAngel-
So, because the PS3 and 360 can't possibly compete with the PC on a technical level, it shouldn't be allowed in graphics debates? Well, forgive me if I think that's a little silly.
He's excluding the PC, and that isn't allowed in System Wars, plus if sites gave Crysis 1 awards for graphics, why can't other PC games do according to him.[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"][QUOTE="tormentos"]I don't even know what PC gamers are doing Here those games coming from PC are not impressive at all,Uncharted 3 coming from the PS3 is. Which why many site ignored PC games and gave Uncharted 2 awards for graphics,coming from PC which get a new GPU and CPU every year those games are not that impressive. If the PC had those graphics while the PS3 and xbox 360 had similar specs,and both console gave graphics like Uncharted and gears ok,PC gamers had a point but the PS3 and xbox 360 don't have a top of the line GPU and CPU with 4 GB of system ram and 2GB of video ram.ohgeez
your ignoring the fact that UC3 runs at 30fps, 720p with no aa, still manages to drop below 25
any old PC can run current games at console settings
Crysis on medium still trashes any console game, Shogun 2 is a whole gen ahead, UC3 is smoke and mirrors and scripted events, the graphics are meh aswell
UC3 has AA, mp and sp. Also, smoke and mirrors is just another way of saying "optimization" which is what consoles have been doing since they released all those years ago.MLAA is garbage, the MP has terrible graphics
and i like how you said PC graphics are not that good and need to upgrade every year, nice going ignoring PS3 was $600 at launch and any $600 PC from 2006-7 is alot more powerful than both consoles
[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]
Well,there you have it,folks.Uncharted 3 is graphics king.
Nothing,absolutely nothing looks better.KiZZo1
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ...
Yeah,the game does look beautiful.[QUOTE="Gue1"]if you atually read it they are saying it's ONE OF the best looking game on consoles not the best looking game period,lolEven with an analysis from professionals people are still in denial trying to deny Uncharted 3's greatness. Just buy a PS3 and be done with it! :lol:
graphic king and stuff are just terms fanboys use in SW but if you read the article and stop nitpicking so much, DF are subtly saying that this is the best looking game. Period. Now don't come crying if Uncharted 3 wins GOTY too (but I know is gonna be Portal 2 anyway).
delta3074
Didnt the same exact guys say a month ago that Gears 3 was 'one of the most advanced games this gen'?
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]
Who has said the graphics are "weak" and/or terrible?
Pray_to_me
Witcher 2 has clunky animation and iffy combat.
What does that have to do with my comment?if you atually read it they are saying it's ONE OF the best looking game on consoles not the best looking game period,lol[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Gue1"]
Even with an analysis from professionals people are still in denial trying to deny Uncharted 3's greatness. Just buy a PS3 and be done with it! :lol:
graphic king and stuff are just terms fanboys use in SW but if you read the article and stop nitpicking so much, DF are subtly saying that this is the best looking game. Period. Now don't come crying if Uncharted 3 wins GOTY too (but I know is gonna be Portal 2 anyway).
PAL360
Didnt the same exact guys say a month ago that Gears 3 was 'one of the most advanced games this gen'?
"It's safe to say that Gears of War 3 is one of the most advanced video games of this generation, and a ringing endorsement of what the Xbox 360 is capable of handling when the right people, the right tech, a lengthy development cycle and an inordinately large budget are in play. From a technological perspective, with just a few caveats that we've touched upon, the overall presentation is first class." sounds familiar doesn't it:)[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="delta3074"]if you atually read it they are saying it's ONE OF the best looking game on consoles not the best looking game period,loldelta3074
Didnt the same exact guys say a month ago that Gears 3 was 'one of the most advanced games this gen'?
"It's safe to say that Gears of War 3 is one of the most advanced video games of this generation, and a ringing endorsement of what the Xbox 360 is capable of handling when the right people, the right tech, a lengthy development cycle and an inordinately large budget are in play. From a technological perspective, with just a few caveats that we've touched upon, the overall presentation is first class." sounds familiar doesn't it:) But Gears of War 3 came BEFORE Uncharted 3, so what was said about Uncharted 3, was said AFTER considering and having analysed Gears 3's graphics first.Please Log In to post.
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