Uncharted 3 is Graphics King based on Digital Foundry

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

You are touching on a major strength of consoles which is optimization.

If you know everyone is using X hardware, you can push that hardware to the wall.

Whereas on PC, you have some guy with %100 processor utilization, and some guys with %1 processor utilization, and the code isn't optimized to use the hardware efficiently.

I have GTA : SA (original Xbox) and GTA IV, I think GTA IV looks 10x better graphically.

Cloud567kar

Excuses excuses, fact is PC has better graphics end of story. Dont say oh well only some can run it so it doesnt count.

no 1 says PC aren't having better graphic, but not even close to the way hermits trying to exaggerated it, as now in 2011, PC with all the upgrades edge it does righteously have the better graphic than console in every mutlipaltis, but some big name console exclusive are still mind blowing and looks better than most PC games (maybe not PC's best)

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Thats like saying PS3 is 15x faster the PS2 where's the 15x better games? when the fact remains that many games arent that great and some dont even compare

Pc's can more then 10x faster... A GTX 580 is like 11x faster then console gpu's with 6x or 12x the memory. then a i5 2500K is like 15x stronger then console cpu's. What you seem not to understand is that we are in an age where multiplatforming is the norm. Getting the product out to as many people as possible and allowing them to use it on a wide range of devices. They are not going to create a game on PC where only 10% can run the game at all. Which is why there are multiple graphical settings. Also almost all Pc games now that take use of Pc's power require a Gpu thats 3x stronger then the console's and differences show. You can take any well done multiplat game and get 2x the graphics and get 4+ times the performance allows a smoother game experience.

O please you just shoot yourself in the foot with that coment proving what you are.... a person with denial

ConsoleCounsla_

You are touching on a major strength of consoles which is optimization.

If you know everyone is using X hardware, you can push that hardware to the wall.

Whereas on PC, you have some guy with %100 processor utilization, and some guys with %1 processor utilization, and the code isn't optimized to use the hardware efficiently.

I have GTA : SA (original Xbox) and GTA IV, I think GTA IV looks 10x better graphically.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

You are touching on a major strength of consoles which is optimization.

If you know everyone is using X hardware, you can push that hardware to the wall.

Whereas on PC, you have some guy with %100 processor utilization, and some guys with %1 processor utilization, and the code isn't optimized to use the hardware efficiently.

I have GTA : SA (original Xbox) and GTA IV, I think GTA IV looks 10x better graphically.

GameFan1983

No thats not touching the strength of optimization for consoles any more its not optimization its all about compromises for the last 3 years what cut to make it run .... getting 2x the graphics and 4x the performance on a gpu thats 4x faster means that optimization is also a big part on Pc gaming too... RE5 as an example on Pc ran ok on a pentium 4 with a 8600GT above console settings while Pc version requires a dual core. Most console games that push the consoles, have glitches,lag and framerate issues... ya right on the strength of optimization for consoles its called lack of processing power to match what the devs what to do.

You will never have a senerio like that on the same Pc game on different Pc's where one guy gets 1% and the other gets 100%.... that right there shows you dont know what your talking about when it comes to Pc gaming or hardware.

he's making 1000 times more sense than you are, some hermits just can't pull their heads out of the sand with PC spec = console spec. and it's hilarious to see you use "You don't know what you talking about" as escape smoke screen whenever you got owned, saw you did that in other thread too lol.

btw, i'm a pc gamer too.

[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"] very excellent argument, this is why i argue with some pc homits that most ps3 games are graphic kings and look better then the pcs gk that they claim. only certain machines perform certain ways when it comes to pcs. but the graphics shown for the ps3 graphics king such as U3 are consistent on every system running them. ConsoleCounsla_

Excuses excuses, fact is PC has better graphics end of story. Dont say oh well only some can run it so it doesnt count.

Excuses excuses, fact is PC has better graphics end of story. Dont say oh well only some can run it so it doesnt count.Cloud567kar

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"][QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]

Excuses excuses, fact is PC has better graphics end of story. Dont say oh well only some can run it so it doesnt count.

mitu123

ya really, or even back in 2007

[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]Excuses excuses, fact is PC has better graphics end of story. Dont say oh well only some can run it so it doesnt count.tormentos

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

You are touching on a major strength of consoles which is optimization.

If you know everyone is using X hardware, you can push that hardware to the wall.

Whereas on PC, you have some guy with %100 processor utilization, and some guys with %1 processor utilization, and the code isn't optimized to use the hardware efficiently.

I have GTA : SA (original Xbox) and GTA IV, I think GTA IV looks 10x better graphically.

Love to see how funny the haters/lemmings making excuses and the PC Elitists feeling even more insecure are. lol

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"] very excellent argument, this is why i argue with some pc homits that most ps3 games are graphic kings and look better then the pcs gk that they claim. only certain machines perform certain ways when it comes to pcs. but the graphics shown for the ps3 graphics king such as U3 are consistent on every system running them. ConsoleCounsla_

[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]Excuses excuses, fact is PC has better graphics end of story. Dont say oh well only some can run it so it doesnt count.tormentos

[QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

No thats not touching the strength of optimization for consoles any more its not optimization its all about compromises for the last 3 years what cut to make it run .... getting 2x the graphics and 4x the performance on a gpu thats 4x faster means that optimization is also a big part on Pc gaming too... RE5 as an example on Pc ran ok on a pentium 4 with a 8600GT above console settings while Pc version requires a dual core. Most console games that push the consoles, have glitches,lag and framerate issues... ya right on the strength of optimization for consoles its called lack of processing power to match what the devs what to do.

You will never have a senerio like that on the same Pc game on different Pc's where one guy gets 1% and the other gets 100%.... that right there shows you dont know what your talking about when it comes to Pc gaming or hardware.

04dcarraher

he's making 1000 times more sense than you are, some hermits just can't pull their heads out of the sand with PC spec = console spec. and it's hilarious to see you use "You don't know what you talking about" as escape smoke screen whenever you got owned, saw you did that in other thread too lol.

btw, i'm a pc gamer too.

:cool: this is exactly why hermits can never get over their inferior complex, you got your logic wrong again, the way PC and console hardware optimizing is completely different, like a freight truck with bigger horse power doesn't go faster than a sports car. fact is console graphic evaluate as time pass by, look at first gen ps3 games and like at them now, let's say COD2 vs COD BO, on PC this takes at least 2 gen video card upgrade to achieve,

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"][QUOTE="mitu123"] There are many machines out there that max out games, and once hardware gets better they'll handle the PC graphics kings with no problems. Just because someone can't run it doesn't stop the game from having best graphics. That didn't stop Crysis so why start now? That's like saying COD games maxed out look better than BF3 because the person can't run BF3 even though it's a fact that BF3 on Ultra blows away any current COD game.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"] does golden eye HD on PS3 make golden eye on N64 GK? if so then your right. golden eye HD is running on a better system now. does that make golden eye 64 graphics king on N64ConsoleCounsla_

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Not sure where you're getting at...

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"] lets back it up then in case someone (not saying you) tries to take it out of context. is golden eye still exclusive to N64?ConsoleCounsla_

Ohhhhh!!!! My oh my! Who woulda thought that one little article could rattle and infuriate so many hermits andlemmings alike. Fanboy damage control at its finest hear at SW ladies and gentlemen:lol:

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Someone has to argue that.

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"][QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]

Excuses excuses, fact is PC has better graphics end of story. Dont say oh well only some can run it so it doesnt count.

mitu123

PS3 came out in late 2006 and cost $600

[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]Excuses excuses, fact is PC has better graphics end of story. Dont say oh well only some can run it so it doesnt count.tormentos

you dont need to upgrade every year

once again, a high end PC from 2006 (which cost the same as a PS3), is alot more powerful and can run games like shogun 2, witcher 2 and crysis, that destroy uncharted 3

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"] why? didnt you argure mlb the show on PS3 and PS2?ConsoleCounsla_

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"] if yours runs it better than U3 (which i highly doubt unless your shopping at bestbuy +) then good for you, but lets not speak for the rest of us??HaloinventedFPS

PS3 came out in late 2006 and cost $600

Can someone explain whats so impressive about the fire? Its just like any other fire ive seen in any other game aside from FC2. Iantheone

Dude, are you underestimating the power of da fire?

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Doesn't take much to beat 2005 hardware with today's PCs...

mitu123

PS3 came out in late 2006 and cost $600

yet you and many others keep saying its 6-7 year old hardware when it isnt

Ohhhhh!!!! My oh my! Who woulda thought that one little article could rattle and infuriate so many hermits andlemmings alike. Fanboy damage control at its finest hear at SW ladies and gentlemen:lol:

Adamantium4k2

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="GameFan1983"]

he's making 1000 times more sense than you are, some hermits just can't pull their heads out of the sand with PC spec = console spec. and it's hilarious to see you use "You don't know what you talking about" as escape smoke screen whenever you got owned, saw you did that in other thread too lol.

btw, i'm a pc gamer too.

GameFan1983

:cool: this is exactly why hermits can never get over their inferior complex, you got your logic wrong again, the way PC and console hardware optimizing is completely different, like a freight truck with bigger horse power doesn't go faster than a sports car. fact is console graphic evaluate as time pass by, look at first gen ps3 games and like at them now, let's say COD2 vs COD BO, on PC this takes at least 2 gen video card upgrade to achieve,

No optimizing on both is basically the same , the only difference is that on a console they only have one console configuration to worry about. so they do not have to set multiple settings for different processing and memory abilities. Your example is off basis. truck vs a sports car, its more like a honda(console) vs a ferrari (Pc) while having more horsepower and it's faster.... Your Call duty example HA! A Pc with a Geforce 7800GTX can play both those examples on above console settings, there goes your two card gens to match consoles idea... You really are not a Pc gamer your ability to understand the differences shows. Ps3 uses a gimped Geforce 7 chipset and no matter how well they optiminze a game a Geforce 7 is still a Geforce 7, 256mb of video memory is still 256mb of video memory.

Shouldn't we be posting some of these:

you dont need to upgrade every year once again, a high end PC from 2006 (which cost the same as a PS3), is alot more powerful and can run games like shogun 2, witcher 2 and crysis, that destroy uncharted 3 HaloinventedFPS

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]you dont need to upgrade every year once again, a high end PC from 2006 (which cost the same as a PS3), is alot more powerful and can run games like shogun 2, witcher 2 and crysis, that destroy uncharted 3 tormentos

haha ha wow, not sure if you are trolling

and a good PC from 2006 didnt cost 2k, it cost about 500-600 and a PC from 2006 can run BF3 on medium, which is above console settings, not to mention still gets 64 players, enjoy 24 players

No optimizing on both is basically the same , the only difference is that on a console they only have one console configuration to worry about. so they do not have to set multiple settings for different processing and memory abilities. Your example is off basis. truck vs a sports car, its more like a honda(console) vs a ferrari (Pc) while having more horsepower and it's faster.... Your Call duty example HA! A Pc with a Geforce 7800GTX can play both those examples on above console settings, there goes your two card gens to match consoles idea... You really are not a Pc gamer your ability to understand the differences shows. Ps3 uses a gimped Geforce 7 chipset and no matter how well they optiminze a game a Geforce 7 is still a Geforce 7, 256mb of video memory is still 256mb of video memory.04dcarraher

no 1 says PC aren't having better graphic, but not even close to the way hermits trying to exaggerated it, as now in 2011, PC with all the upgrades edge it does righteously have the better graphic than console in every mutlipaltis, but some big name console exclusive are still mind blowing and looks better than most PC games (maybe not PC's best)GameFan1983

What's impressive is how much better textures, lighting, character models, etc. look while doing a lot because it'll prove how powerful hardware really is thus more impressive, that's ALWAYS been the case. So why not have it looking the best while doing more, why do you think Crysis is still one of the best this gen? Why do you think we have "console graphics threads"? Why do we have to lower standards? Exactly.

And that depends on the game if PC is doing more or not.

And that's them, millions do like favs on Windows after all.

mitu123

Have you ever watched a Blu-Ray movie? It looks fake.

The technicals are there, but the entertainment value isn't.

People are having a hard time seeing the forest for the trees.

Every time I see those GTA IV "reality mod" screenshots it makes me puke. They've removed the beautiful artwork and replaced it with...yuck.

Sometimes drawn cartoons look better than hi-rez CGI.

And sometimes 45's sound better than CD's.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]you dont need to upgrade every year once again, a high end PC from 2006 (which cost the same as a PS3), is alot more powerful and can run games like shogun 2, witcher 2 and crysis, that destroy uncharted 3 tormentos

A High end PC of 2006 cost more than $2000 dollars back then,in fact the X1900 which was release on January 2006 and which basically was the equivalent of the xbox 360 GPU cost $550 dollar when it came,and you need a good PC to put that card in you know,you can't pare on 2006 a X1900 with a $500 Dell PC from Sams,it would not work as intended. Lets say this a 2006 PC with a 2006 GPU,will not destroy Uncharted 3 in any way,hell Killzone 2 was release on 2009 and while Crysis look better,the animation on Killzone 2 was far an abode Crysis to and basically any shooter on PC at that time,so not everything on PC was better. Bringing PC graphics is silly debating the price even more,you will not run BF3 on a 2006 PC with a 2006 GPU like it was shown on E3 or close.

A high end Pc in 2006 did not cost $2000. Your trying to pass a top of line Pc as a high end Pc back in early 2006

Now how about the fact that you totally forgot about the Geforce 8800GTX that came out the same week as the PS3? which IS 3x stroger and has 3x the memory then ethier console graphics ability. A high end Pc in 2006 with an AMD dual core, 2gb of memory and a Geforce 7800GTX was only a $1K and it outclassed both consoles. And Pc's with a C2D 2/4gb of memory and a Geforce 8 says high with BF3 running better graphics and resolutions then the console versions.

Every time I see those GTA IV "reality mod" screenshots it makes me puke. They've removed the beautiful artwork and replaced it with...yuck. Sometimes drawn cartoons look better than hi-rez CGI. And sometimes 45's sound better than CD's.ZombieKiller7

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]No optimizing on both is basically the same , the only difference is that on a console they only have one console configuration to worry about. so they do not have to set multiple settings for different processing and memory abilities. Your example is off basis. truck vs a sports car, its more like a honda(console) vs a ferrari (Pc) while having more horsepower and it's faster.... Your Call duty example HA! A Pc with a Geforce 7800GTX can play both those examples on above console settings, there goes your two card gens to match consoles idea... You really are not a Pc gamer your ability to understand the differences shows. Ps3 uses a gimped Geforce 7 chipset and no matter how well they optiminze a game a Geforce 7 is still a Geforce 7, 256mb of video memory is still 256mb of video memory.tormentos

No... Pc cpu's from 2004+out classes the poor PS3 Cell with normal Cpu workloads. the Cell working on a single item in parallel workloads is the only way it could out process a dual core from 2005.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

What's impressive is how much better textures, lighting, character models, etc. look while doing a lot because it'll prove how powerful hardware really is thus more impressive, that's ALWAYS been the case. So why not have it looking the best while doing more, why do you think Crysis is still one of the best this gen? Why do you think we have "console graphics threads"? Why do we have to lower standards? Exactly.

And that depends on the game if PC is doing more or not.

And that's them, millions do like favs on Windows after all.

ZombieKiller7

Have you ever watched a Blu-Ray movie? It looks fake.

The technicals are there, but the entertainment value isn't.

People are having a hard time seeing the forest for the trees.

Every time I see those GTA IV "reality mod" screenshots it makes me puke. They've removed the beautiful artwork and replaced it with...yuck.

Sometimes drawn cartoons look better than hi-rez CGI.

And sometimes 45's sound better than CD's.

But it's a fact that those GTA4 mods have better textures, GTA4 vanilla isn't that graphically impressive. Look at the car textures, they alone beat vanilla GTA4.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]you dont need to upgrade every year once again, a high end PC from 2006 (which cost the same as a PS3), is alot more powerful and can run games like shogun 2, witcher 2 and crysis, that destroy uncharted 3 tormentos

I don't know how you think this is yuck.

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I prefer art to reality.

Don't get me wrong, it's crisp, it just....looks bad and crisp at the same time.

I don't know how you think this is yuck.

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I prefer art to reality.

Don't get me wrong, it's crisp, it just....looks bad and crisp at the same time.

ZombieKiller7

Doom 3 in 2004

dont bother saying Doom 3 doesnt count because its a linear corridor shooter, because we all know uncharted is an open world game

I don't know how you think this is yuck.

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I prefer art to reality.

Don't get me wrong, it's crisp, it just....looks bad and crisp at the same time.

ZombieKiller7

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

I don't know how you think this is yuck.

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I prefer art to reality.

Don't get me wrong, it's crisp, it just....looks bad and crisp at the same time.

RyviusARC

it does look better than any 360/PS3 game

Uncharted's best graphics come from cutscenes, ingame looks garbage, so Policenauts counts, so does Snatcher

haha ha wow, not sure if you are trolling and a good PC from 2006 didnt cost 2k, it cost about 500-600 and a PC from 2006 can run BF3 on medium, which is above console settings, not to mention still gets 64 players, enjoy 24 playersHaloinventedFPS

[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] yeah some 360 multiplats have the edge because 3rd party developers find it harder to develop on PS3, this has been known for quite some time good thing Naughty Dog knows how to harness the power of it and make a damn good game :-)ConsoleCounsla_

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]haha ha wow, not sure if you are trolling and a good PC from 2006 didnt cost 2k, it cost about 500-600 and a PC from 2006 can run BF3 on medium, which is above console settings, not to mention still gets 64 players, enjoy 24 playerstormentos

[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]Excuses excuses, fact is PC has better graphics end of story. Dont say oh well only some can run it so it doesnt count.tormentos

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]haha ha wow, not sure if you are trolling and a good PC from 2006 didnt cost 2k, it cost about 500-600 and a PC from 2006 can run BF3 on medium, which is above console settings, not to mention still gets 64 players, enjoy 24 playerstormentos

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"][QUOTE="Allthishate"] well good on u sir . at least we both can agree. and yes i do find uc3 more colorful then gears 3 . but equally impressive on there respected consoles. and i find uc3 to be an amazing game jst like gears of war 3. Allthishate