Uncharted 4 60FPS! Not so fast ....

Naughty Dog said previously that it was targeting 60fps for upcoming PlayStation 4 game Uncharted 4: A Thief's End. But the studio has since backed away from that objective somewhat, saying it wants to do what's best for A Thief's End, even if it means sub-60fps.

Now, Naughty Dog has yet again spoken about 60fps for A Thief's End. Game director Neil Druckmann says achieving that frame-rate is no simple task. Naughty Dog will keep pushing and optimizing to make the game look as best as it can, he said, though he wouldn't say if 60fps is a benchmark the developer is hoping to achieve overall.

"Really f**king hard," Druckmann said when asked byGame Informer how difficult it would be to get the game running at 60fps. "That's true for any game. It was really hard on The Last of Us Remastered, and that's a game we had finished and we knew exactly what the end result needs to look like. And here [with Uncharted 4] we're trying to push the boundaries of what this game can look like; and do realistic, real-time cutscenes; and trying to do 60fps is really hard."

Asked directly if Naughty Dog is targeting 60fps for A Thief's End, Druckmann said the game remains a work-in-progress, and nothing is nailed down right now.

"I don't know," he said. "The objective for us is just to make the best experience. And right now we're trying to push the look. Then we'll see where we're at and reassess. We're constantly making choices to our production about what's going to make the game feel best and look its best."

The gameplay video above, from December's PlayStation Experience event, is running at a locked frame-rate of 30fps, even though current builds of the game are running higher.

Game director Bruce Straley said previously that Naughty Dog won't push for 60fps if doing so negatively impacts the overall experience.

"We're going to do whatever it takes to make the game we want to make," he said in January. "If it means we could go for 60 but lose something that would really impact the player's experience, then it's our choice as developers to say, 'Well, we're going to go for the experience [instead of] the 60 frames.'"

Regarding the general technical abilities of the PS4 itself, compared to the PS3, Straley said, "It's actually pretty amazing, to tell you the truth."

"There's things that have been issues in the past that aren't issues at all right now," he said. "And it's funny because how quickly you forget that that used to be an issue. That being said, just like every piece of tech, what Naughty Dog does is we push the limits to anything and everything that's in our eyesight, in our reach."

Druckmann interjected: "There's always limited resources."

Straley continued, "all the problems that used to exist are pretty much gone at this point; we've just come up with new problems."

A Thief's End, which is aiming for 1080p resolution, launches later this year exclusively for PS4. Sony has not yet announced an official release date.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/getting-uncharted-4-to-run-at-60fps-really-f-king-/1100-6425090/

Sounds like UC4 might be more cinematic than you'd hoped! I'm guessing 60fps and 1080p is going to matter less and less very soon ... :P

That next-gen powah!

(hopefully I'm not as late as usual with my topics :P )

30 fps is perfect for Uncharted. Makes the game even more cinematic.

The best graphics on any platform comes at a price..

Was anyone really expecting that first E3 trailer *ahem* tech demo graphics at 60 FPS ?

It has already been downgraded and now the FPS will take a backseat to graphics too. Watch Dogs, Unity, Uncharted, The Division... Companies selling their games with impressive visuals in the first trailer, then downgrading them. Is this really what we are in store for for the rest of this gen ?

Well, to lock something at 30FPS it needs to play above that target in the first place, so maybe they'll make it work :P I hear Sony is pretty decent with blood sacrifices and whatnot! :D

Seriously though, 30FPS incoming! And honestly for UC that's perfectly fine. It's a series focused on great graphics with some light but fun gameplay.

Yep. Consoles. Developers can only do so much with the hardware and more often than not they're going to push visuals over performance. This fact will become increasingly evident as we get further into this generation. Always been that way before and it seems it will only continue.

"The objective for us is just to make the best experience. And right now we're trying to push the look. Then we'll see where we're at and reassess. We're constantly making choices to our production about what's going to make the game feel best and look its best."

That is more important than anything else.

Yes, having to be on PC.

Why not 24?

Yeah the moment I heard this news it was pretty much confirmed

@R4gn4r0k: How does one downgrade what essencitally was an in-engine custscene? :P

Cows told me ND were programming gods...

I'll be glad when the illusion of 1080p and 60 fps dies with these consoles. Its already been proven that all 3 struggle with it. Maybe in the future there will be less talk about that and more about the game itself.

...but probably not.

That's not what I saw here on these forums. Lots of people here believed those would be the actual in game graphics.

I mean we can take the Dead Island trailer as an example too. It's different, but still the same. First impressions are very deciding for people. Uncharted 4 will never look as good as its original trailer. Dead Island was never a game about emotional investment. But the devs/publishers are still very happy when they can make people believe that they are. Sales guaranteed. Many people bought Watch_dogs thinking it would look like that original trailer...

Yeah, well when your priorities are dumb shit like animated neck muscles and chest hair physics. Really goes to show what ND and Sony care most about.

bu-bu-bu-bu-but Naughty gods. 60fps with the best graphics ever. Cows told me so.

Did anyone really expect 60fps?

@blue_hazy_basic:

But uncharted 4 will be graphics king until The Division

I'll be so glad when this stupid "a game isn't great unless it's 60fps" thing dies down. In terms of graphics, all I care about is that the game looks as good as possible, whether that be 30FPS, 60FPS or 9,000FPS.

You say this, but it never pans out. Too much downgrades by release. Those ND E3 cutscene vids trick you for a 4th time?

Also, if it actually does happen from some Mircale, that would make it the first console title to become graphics king this far into a Gen.

Keep the dream alive.

Also, TC is obviously a delusional lembot.

Never understood why they were talking about 60fps in the first place. Really silly goal for an Uncharted game. Uncharted is much more about the look than precise gameplay. Would much rather have more outrageous setipieces, and better visuals than a higher framerate for a cinematic, over the top action game like this.

And by talking about 60fps in the first place they will just end up having to disapoint people when they are not able to live up to it...

Consoles, where you can have great graphics or 60 fps, but never both.

He even bought an xbone for the MCC. :P

if the game had the quality of the demo we saw at 60fps it would be amazing. at 30fps? nah.. naughtyfails

It would be hilarious if Naughty Dog somehow pulled off 60fps...For tormentos threads alone.

Only the people that take ND at their word. I guess we can call them liars now?

Framerate goes a long way in determining the speed and quality of the gameplay. Games like CoD have always capitalized on this.

@Sushiglutton:

Yah I don't get it.

With Tomb Raider @ 1080p i max out the settings, use 4xAA and get 30 FPS. No way I lower settings or use no AA to get 60 FPS

And this with a 6 core Intel CPU @4.2 Ghz and an overclocked GTX 970

@Heirren: The fps will be the only thing Tormentos will be able to talk about since he won't actually be playing the game. And he won't be able to do that until DF releases their analysis.

To be honest, The Last of Us: Remastered wasn't locked at 60FPS. There is constant frame-rate drop. TLoU; Remastered was a test indeed. I'm sure Naughty Dog will make the correct choice for the best experience of the game and really, the whole Last of Us: Remastered was a beta test to them so they know what there up against for PS4.

Yeah you were a bit late on this, there was a thread a few weeks ago I believe. But yeah, no way UC4 is gonna be 60fps. No way in hell, the PS4 isn't powerful enough to have a game that good looking running at 60fps in 1080p

@davillain-: What is your sig from? I need to know!

@R4gn4r0k:

Some people also don't believe gravity is a thing :P I have no doubt the in-engine cutscenes will achieve that graphical fidelity. Obviously the gameplay will have to be toned down a bit, but from what I saw it's not such an huge difference (especially considering what this game gained versus the previous ones).

But like I said, blood sacrifices and all that! Sony will find a way! :D

Yes, the price of a PC.

Anyway i'm not a big fan of the Uncharted series, and 30fps is acceptable for a console game with a controller, however, 60fps made a huge difference with TLOU so personally i'd prefer they reduce some eyecandy if it would allow them to hit 60fps.

lol consoles

The game looks like shit already, I hope this means they can stick to 30fps to take the graphics to a decent level

Le grande surprise -_-

They said "targeting 1080p/60FPS" from the start, giving them an easy way out.

I'm curious why more developers don't give the choice between locked 30FPS and unlocked 30+FPS.

Will there ever be a gen where 60fps will be a standard? May be just after 8-10 years, during next generation? We'll finally get there. Just you wait.

@GioVela2010: I call bullshit on that. I get better performance in Tomb Raider than that with a 660Ti. Look at the 970 benchmarks online - they get better performance than you just described in 4K. Are you sure you own a 970?

Are you using TressFX? Because otherwise, that's impossible.

making games of the gen like uncharted 2 and last of us? yeah. They should ask 343 how to make games that actually work, amirite?

@SuddenlyTragic:

Don't take him seriously. According to him, his Plasma TV makes Ps3 games look better than PC games.

@Krelian-co: Im not going out with you, man. I like girls.

Naughty Dog and Sony would never lie to us or stretch the truth ever! If they say it's 60 then it's 60! If they then come out and tell us 60 is too hard then it's too hard! If 30 is better for us then it's better for us!

And in the end who cares? It's gonna run at 0p and 0fps on the Xbone. Just a touch below what the other Xbone games run at am I right??

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how weird, i get everything 120 fps with everything maxed on my 3.8 i5 and 290x

oh wait i forgot the part where everything you say is bullshit, carry on.

we are sure he doesn't

@DEadliNE-Zero0:

He's lying. Everyone knows Gio is alt of m3. He uses it for trolling. He recently made a thread about his 970 where he posted pics from google images and said it's his proof that he owns one and as a PC gamer he admits that games don't look much better on it. Later links were posted by users from where he took those pics and thread was locked. He even admitted that this is his alt account. He doesn't own any 970 or a gaming PC.

Naughty Dog will take more polygons and robust rendering over 60fps. Bet my game collection on it.

Fine by me. just make decent game play changes, the game felt old after U3.

how is that cloud going on? the power of 10 xbones on your home!

you know when you don't have arguments sometimes just not replying is an option, i am not that much of an ahole as to keep hurting your feelings :(