Uncharted 4 60FPS! Not so fast ....

yeah. Frame-rate more than something that can be achieved it's a commitment. When you want to wow people the first thing to sacrifice is the frame-rate. It always been like this and always will be.

Devs care more about selling games than gameplay.

Framerate and resolution wouldn't be such a big deal had Sony not said they were targeting 1080p and 60fps for ALL games. They never said that this would definitely happen with every game but they shouldn't have put that claim out there before the console released because now that's what people are expecting - yet basically none of the games with the exception of a few have been able to hit this mark

Game developers should care most about creating a game that works and is fun to play. The graphics at this stage of tech are fine. Graphics whores...smh.

Its SW, if companies are going to pump out PR they are going to be bashed when their PR is bull. If you make a big deal about your console hitting 60 fps and 1080p and your opponent not what do you think will happen?

I agree. I think they are purposefully building the hype for the next reveal.

Dont care what it is as long as multiple time top 5 GOAT maker Naughty Gods is behind it. Day 1 mother fuckinggggg CE inbound

Nobody claims that 60fps do not have any effect. But they come at a price, and I am not willing to pay that price. If I can have better neck muscle movement or hair physics that is all much more important to me than 60fps. Unless we have photo-realistic images, every bit of performance is bette spent on visuals than on 60fps.

That's exactly the point: Better visuals are always more important than 60fps, as long as we do not already have photo-realistic images.

Lipstick on a pig. Sony style.

Thats funny, I could swear many console fans saying gameplay (60fps) matters more.

Looks like the fanbase is split on this issue.

It is good to have both though, via PC.

Yeah I totally agree. I don't give a shit if my games are playable as long as they look super realistic. Hell, as long as I can see the veins on Nathan Drake's dick I'm totally cool with a 7fps slide-show.

fanboys will say whatever the PR tells them to

I said that visuals are more important then *60* fps. I did *not* say, that framerate does not matter at all. Of course, games must be playable, but stable 30fps are sufficient for that purpose from my point of view.

Shut up and get out!

The Order has officially been upgraded as of the final build. It's happened with every PS4 exclusive so far. Cycle for every PS4 exclusive this gen:

Footage for a new game gets shown --> People are impressed, some don't believe it's real --> New footage gets shown (most of the time with different lighting), talks of downgrades for months --> Game finally releases, final build is an upgrade from the initial

You're probably going to post the same images for The Order that's from a build that's close to a year old now.

lol 5club

lol u know ubi gunna downgrade that shit and prob be unplayable + what weve seen from trailers graphic wise isn't top of the line

Thank god all the "super powered console" talk is getting strangled in it's crib, soon the graphic hype will fall off completely everywhere but from die hard PCers. I mean seriously, if a game is dumping millions into chest hair physics and neck muscle detail but is unable to offer up a single rare or interesting game mechanic the developers need to get smacked on the nose with a rolled up news paper. I am not even asking for new or unique. Simply "Not found in CoD, Tomb Raider, Farcry, Gears of Battleduty, or Assassin's creed" will do. Would be nice if some first party studios asks themselves "What should we do with our game?" instead of "What are the top multiplats doing?"

I swear to gosh that whole "Video games are not art!" thing must have made every first party studio wet it's self last gen. Nintendo of course excluded. Nintendo doesn't ask themselves what EA and Activision are doing. They ask themselves what EA and Activision would be doing if their design directors were eleven year olds that just dropped acid.

I believe my eyes, knowledge and DF more than a ragging cow. :D

First the Order 800p has baked lighting so I don't give two crap if it's is changed/improved or removed at all. It doesn't matter. It's not real time, LEL. Second thing changes in lighting doesn't reduce polygons which the new build of order has much less than their initial bullshit video. Third point LOL at the lack of dynamic shadows in the Order 800p that I have already pointed out previously and I think it was also your post. Please post those gifs again so we can all laugh at you.

Last but not the least, it happened with every Sony game, every Sony game got downgraded, at least happened with all games I know of. Pretty sure about UC2, 3, TLOU, UC4, KZ:SF and the Order 800p.

Pretty damn sure no 900pStation game has so far managed to challenged Crysis 2 technically, not even 5Club.

It's a PS3 game to be fair, doesn't look that hot after playing Second Son and First Light. All the 30fps lock gives you is better shadows and it's really not worth it, so I stick to 60fps.

@scottpsfan14:

My dear Scotty, Crysis 2 is the first game to use RLR so nice try spinning this and yup it uses it in all reflections not just in selected places. Please post me a FPS view where it misses any of the RLR reflections. We all know how Crysis 2 looks and reacts all weird in TPS view. boooooo..............

Yes, it has real particles, don't know about fake particles. Please show me a gif of the same pic where these particles aren't effected by light or physics?

Third, Fire your gun in front of any glossy building and see for your self that neither the particles are fake not the reflections. Both are RLR and are effected by wind and light and even cast shadows. As a matter of fact even of SW there's a gif showing exactly that owning G-puking when he claimed a similar thing. Too bad it's quite an old game not many people have it installed on their PC to make gifs now. I know I don't have it installed.

Oh and did I mention that 5Club doesn't have anything baked but it doesn't have many things on which dynamic lighting ?GI doesn't even effect apart from the main car object. Now go back in your previous 5club topic and post the pictures where I highlighted that. Oh wait, I know you won't.

The only thing that linear car game has over C2 is is PBR and that's that. Crysis 2 still technically pawns it and you know the funny thing? C2 is actually a 360 port unlike C3. That's even more embarrassing.

@scottpsfan14:

lol even with all that downgrade they're still struggling to hit 30fps

Uncharted isn't a racer, fighter or FPS. There is rarely frantic, fast paced action on screen.

Of course they are going to prioritize graphics over frame rate in a game like that.

Static screenshots can look more impressive and frankly, your average gamer really doesn't care and will be more impressed by higher fidelity graphical effects than 60fps.

@scottpsfan14 said:

@cimbom1993 said:

@scottpsfan14:

Yeah that's pretty bad, but it's reflecting the environment in real time none the less. That takes more recources than cube maps.

I don't see the hands being reflected, Scotty. Can be cubemaps, won't be the first time Sony devs lied about technical specs of a game. :P Oh and show shadows being cast off or reflected from other objects than the main car. LEL.