Uncharted: The Greatest Action Adventure Franchise Ever Made?

[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="iAtrocious"]

No. Zelda.

KevinButlerVP

This. Zelda is the greatest action adventure franchise ever made.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Uncharted is shooter first, adventure/platformer second. And no, Zelda, Metroid and Castlevania all have something to say about the claim UC is the "best" the action-adventure genre has to offer. [QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]Except you're wrong, and when Uncharted 3 drops and recieves more triple-A reviews across the board, you'll have to accept the franchise as more than a 'flash in the pan'. Games don't have to be unique to be fantastic or go down in gaming history.DarkLink77

Edit - Also, remember we're on SW here. Just because the cows have forgotten about UC1 now, in favour of UC2...doesn't mean the original is a irrelevant as it may seem in this place - the obsession with graphics and looking better than Gears of war doesn't exist in the real world. The story remains worthwile, and the untweaked gameplay is perfectly tolerable.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I won'y have to accept anything, actually, especially just because video game critics say so. Video game "journalism" is a joke. I couldn't care less what they think. I can pretty much guarantee that ten years from whenever they stop making Uncharted games, no one will care about the franchise. People will still care about Quake 3, Super Metroid, Ocarina of Time, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, etc, etc, etc. Those are timeless games. Uncharted is a flash in the pan. DarkLink77

I wouldn't go as far to say that they're a joke but I will say that my confidence in what most of them write was totally shaken with the release of KZ2. Anybody who was remotely intrerested in this game upon its release should know why.

The controls were bad. There was lag/controller latency issues resulting in a about a 1/2 second delay between the time you moved the controller and the movement seen on screen. It also had poor hit detection most notably when aiming down the sights of your gun. I could recall numerous times capping enemies in the head from a distance and nothing happened. The game was basically broken when it was released and had no business scoring even an 8 much less a 9 with controls that were so busted. But no all the reviewers seemed to care about were the graphics which are nothing special.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] The franchise may not be flash-in-the-pan, but each individual game seems to be. As soon as UC2 dropped, everyone stopped talking about UC. And as soon as UC3 drops, everyone is going to forget UC2 even exists. It is the same thing with a lot of franchises this generation, they get replaced so quickly with so many sequels, people tend to forget the ones that came before. It also says something to the lasting quality of many of these games as well. Being able to be so easily forgotten means that no one will really care to pick up UC2 10 years from now and play it again... it'll be dated within the genre by its successor, let alone everything else that comes out in that period in time. A flash-in-the-pan is defined as something that makes everyone exclaim "this is the greatest thing ever" and then forget about it once something greater comes along. Lasting franchises tend to have something unique about all their iterations that makes them stand out from the rest of the crowd. I'd say Mario and Zelda are good examples of this. They are both based on their own similar mechanic (Mario platforming, and Zelda action-adventure), but each iteration has done something completely different and unique. SMB, SMB2, SMB3, SMW, SMW2YI, SM64, SMS, SMG, SMG2; TLoZ, ZIIAoL, ALttP, OoT, MM, WW, TP, SS. All of them have either an art styIe and/or gameplay elements that make them unique. And both franchises have been around for 24-25 years... and still are extremely popular and see tons of people still going back more than two decades later and enjoying them still, or enjoying them for the first time. Games like Uncharted 2 are just improvements on what already worked in the first game with little altered in terms of content or styIe. What will really illustrate this, is the effect that UC3's release has on UC2 and the subsequent years as time passes. How many people do you really think will be playing UC2 10 years from now? Or UC?Kan0nF0dder

Edit - Also, remember we're on SW here. Just because the cows have forgotten about UC1 now, in favour of UC2...doesn't mean the original is a irrelevant as it may seem in this place - the obsession with graphics and looking better than Gears of war doesn't exist in the real world. The story remains worthwile, and the untweaked gameplay is perfectly tolerable.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

I wouldn't go as far to say that they're a joke but I will say that my confidence in what most of them write was totally shaken with the release of KZ2. Anybody who was remotely intrerested in this game upon its release should know why.

T-razor1

The controls were bad. There was lag/controller latency issues resulting in a about a 1/2 second delay between the time you moved the controller and the movement seen on screen. It also had poor hit detection most notably when aiming down the sights of your gun. I could recall numerous times capping enemies in the head from a distance and nothing happened. The game was basically broken when it was released and had no business scoring even an 8 much less a 9 with controls that were so busted. But no all the reviewers seemed to care about were the graphics which are nothing special.

Say what like about 'the heavy feel' for KZ2, can totally understand why you might dislike that, but leave the graphics hate out, just makes you look a silly, blind fanboy.Kan0nF0dder

Says the guy who wrote up that wall of text that could have ben summed up as:

"I love Uncharted, and i believe people are going to play this spectacular series in the future, i also think that Mario/Zelda titles on the Wii in the future will not be remembered"

They will be remembered, and they will be enjoyed. As for Uncharted, the first one is already irrelevant. 10 years from now, we'll be thinking of Uncharted as a good series, but just another drop in the ocean of 'that' generation of games.

Wile people are still going to play Mario, Zelda, Deus Ex, as they have ben playing and replaying, and re-replaying for years on end now. If you want proof, look at the past, end of.

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Summed up with much more tact and precision than I can manage. This is what I'm saying. Excellent post, foxhound.DarkLink77

Edit - Also, remember we're on SW here. Just because the cows have forgotten about UC1 now, in favour of UC2...doesn't mean the original is a irrelevant as it may seem in this place - the obsession with graphics and looking better than Gears of war doesn't exist in the real world. The story remains worthwile, and the untweaked gameplay is perfectly tolerable.

Another GamingBolt article. Lol, it almost looks like I'm promoting the site. :P But I can't help it, they've got some cool article over there.

This one has a video preview too.

http://gamingbolt.com/uncharted-the-greatest-action-adventure-franchise-ever-made

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"] Say what like about 'the heavy feel' for KZ2, can totally understand why you might dislike that, but leave the graphics hate out, just makes you look a silly, blind fanboy.Lucianu

Says the guy who wrote up that wall of text that could have ben summed up as:

"I love Uncharted, and i believe people are going to play this spectacular series in the future, i also think that Mario/Zelda titles in the future will not be remembered"

They will be remembered, and they will be enjoyed. As for Uncharted, the first one is already irrelevant. 10 years from now, we'll be thinking of Uncharted as a good series, but just another drop in the ocean of 'that' generation of games.

Wile people are still going to play Mario, Zelda, Deus Ex, as they have ben playing and replaying, and re-replaying for years on end now. If you want proof, look at the past, end of.

...the hell? Your summing up is wrong, that is not what I said, certainly not in absolute terms. If you couldn't understand, then whatever, sorry.Kan0nF0dder

I think it's a bit unfair to expect Drake or the Uncharted franchise to compete on any level with Mario or Zelda. A lot of the games you listed are still 'being enjoyed for the first time today' cause they're 2D I'd guess, and hence timeless classics. Will the 3D mario and zelda games currently on the Wii be remembered so well? I think not.After OOT and SM64 (mainly IMO cause they were the first games to take the franchises 3D) do I see the rest as games that people will go back to in large numbers, 5 - 10 years from now? Naw. Because UC/UC2 are so cinematic (hell, they're both better than Indiana 4, in terms or dialogue/acting/script), and because they're just great to play and look at, they'll be remembered and replayed down the line to some extent, I'm sure. They're solid, entertaining, single-player games.

Edit - Also, remember we're on SW here. Just because the cows have forgotten about UC1 now, in favour of UC2...doesn't mean the original is a irrelevant as it may seem in this place - the obsession with graphics and looking better than Gears of war doesn't exist in the real world. The story remains worthwile, and the untweaked gameplay is perfectly tolerable.

Kan0nF0dder

Excuse me? And what's with this '..the hell?' expression, as if you don't remember what you wrote.

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]Uncharted is a great series, no doubt, but it's nothing more than a child of Tomb Raider, Gears of War and Indiana Jones clobbered together for a cinematic experience that paces pretty well. In short, it has a little bit of everything, but nothing that truly revolutionizes the gaming industry. Greatest Action Adventure series ever 1. Zelda 2. Metroid 3. God of Warglez13

But, bu, but Metal Gear Solid :cry:

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"] ...the hell? Your summing up is wrong, that is not what I said, certainly not in absolute terms. If you couldn't understand, then whatever, sorry.Lucianu

I think it's a bit unfair to expect Drake or the Uncharted franchise to compete on any level with Mario or Zelda. A lot of the games you listed are still 'being enjoyed for the first time today' cause they're 2D I'd guess, and hence timeless classics. Will the 3D mario and zelda games currently on the Wii be remembered so well? I think not.After OOT and SM64 (mainly IMO cause they were the first games to take the franchises 3D) do I see the rest as games that people will go back to in large numbers, 5 - 10 years from now? Naw. Because UC/UC2 are so cinematic (hell, they're both better than Indiana 4, in terms or dialogue/acting/script), and because they're just great to play and look at, they'll be remembered and replayed down the line to some extent, I'm sure. They're solid, entertaining, single-player games.

Edit - Also, remember we're on SW here. Just because the cows have forgotten about UC1 now, in favour of UC2...doesn't mean the original is a irrelevant as it may seem in this place - the obsession with graphics and looking better than Gears of war doesn't exist in the real world. The story remains worthwile, and the untweaked gameplay is perfectly tolerable.

Kan0nF0dder

Excuse me? And what's with this '..the hell?' expression, as if you don't remember what you wrote.

Exactly dude, reread what I wrote...note the phrases 'think not', 'to some extent' and 'tolerable'. Also my acceptance of mario and zelda being well remembered and replayed, just 2D more than 3D, particularly in the case of the more modern games on the Wii. And in future, don't edit my words down to skew my opinion.

[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Can you explain for those of us that weren't?Kan0nF0dder

The controls were bad. There was lag/controller latency issues resulting in a about a 1/2 second delay between the time you moved the controller and the movement seen on screen. It also had poor hit detection most notably when aiming down the sights of your gun. I could recall numerous times capping enemies in the head from a distance and nothing happened. The game was basically broken when it was released and had no business scoring even an 8 much less a 9 with controls that were so busted. But no all the reviewers seemed to care about were the graphics which are nothing special.

See...now why do I have to be a silly fanboy? Your opinion is no better than mine. I think KZ2 graphics are overrated and if you can't handle someone saying that then tough. The problem here is that you're trying to pass off your opinion as fact. IMO the game is blurry, grainy, has poor textures and some low poly-structures in the environment. But somehow these qualities mixed in with a lovely color of gray equates to setting the bar in graphics.

Maybe if Uncharted 1 wasn't just an ok game. Uncharted 2 is one of the best games this gen though.

The problem with it is, Zelda and Metroid are both AA's, and IMO, given their history, are far better than just 1 game (Uncharted 2).

If Uncharted was considered just an Action series, then I would probably say yea considering I don't care for Action games too much.

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

The controls were bad. There was lag/controller latency issues resulting in a about a 1/2 second delay between the time you moved the controller and the movement seen on screen. It also had poor hit detection most notably when aiming down the sights of your gun. I could recall numerous times capping enemies in the head from a distance and nothing happened. The game was basically broken when it was released and had no business scoring even an 8 much less a 9 with controls that were so busted. But no all the reviewers seemed to care about were the graphics which are nothing special.

T-razor1

See...now why do I have to be a silly fanboy? Your opinion is no better than mine. I think KZ2 graphics are overrated and if you can't handle someone saying that then tough. The problem here is that you're trying to pass off your opinion as fact. IMO the game is blurry, grainy, has poor textures and some low poly-structures in the environment. But somehow these qualities mixed in with a lovely color of gray equates to setting the bar in graphics.

Exactly dude, reread what I wrote...note the phrases 'think not', 'to some extent' and 'tolerable'. Also my acceptance of mario and zelda being well remembered and replayed, just 2D more than 3D, particularly in the case of the more modern games on the Wii. And in future, don't edit my words down to skew my opinion.Kan0nF0dder

You're crazy if you think i'm gonna re-read that wall of text, yet again.

My sum up is still as valid as it was before, since it's summarises your wall of text. You can add words that were irrelevant in that particular context, as much as you want. I don't know why it is so hard to comprehend what the intent of a summarization is.

Either way, i'm done, feel free to quote me and respond, like i know you are..

I like the Assassin's Creed series a lot so...hard to really say.

[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="iAtrocious"]

No. Zelda.

KevinButlerVP

This. Zelda is the greatest action adventure franchise ever made.

[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"] Say what like about 'the heavy feel' for KZ2, can totally understand why you might dislike that, but leave the graphics hate out, just makes you look a silly, blind fanboy.Kan0nF0dder

See...now why do I have to be a silly fanboy? Your opinion is no better than mine. I think KZ2 graphics are overrated and if you can't handle someone saying that then tough. The problem here is that you're trying to pass off your opinion as fact. IMO the game is blurry, grainy, has poor textures and some low poly-structures in the environment. But somehow these qualities mixed in with a lovely color of gray equates to setting the bar in graphics.

...and again you are passing off your opinion as fact. Do you not see what you're doing? Also the "you're a troll" comment was not needed. Done with you.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

I honestly don't understand people who hate Uncharted so much and give it no credit. At the very least people need to recognize it is one of the most if not THE MOST cinematic, immersive, and move like experiences ever in gaming. I can't think of another game that puts you IN THE MOVIE (feel) as much as it.

Wolfetan

Enslaved: Odyssey to the West

Mafia II

Mass Effect

Mass Effect 2

Bioshock

Bioshock 2

Heavy Rain

Alan Wake

Just to name a few more. ;)

lol no. It'd be Zelda.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"] I think it's a bit unfair to expect Drake or the Uncharted franchise to compete on any level with Mario or Zelda. A lot of the games you listed are still 'being enjoyed for the first time today' cause they're 2D I'd guess, and hence timeless classics. Will the 3D mario and zelda games currently on the Wii be remembered so well? I think not. After OOT and SM64 (mainly IMO cause they were the first games to take the franchises 3D) do I see the rest as games that people will go back to in large numbers, 5 - 10 years from now? Naw. Because UC/UC2 are so cinematic (hell, they're both better than Indiana 4, in terms or dialogue/acting/script), and because they're just great to play and look at, they'll be remembered and replayed down the line to some extent, I'm sure. They're solid, entertaining, single-player games.

Edit - Also, remember we're on SW here. Just because the cows have forgotten about UC1 now, in favour of UC2...doesn't mean the original is a irrelevant as it may seem in this place - the obsession with graphics and looking better than Gears of war doesn't exist in the real world. The story remains worthwile, and the untweaked gameplay is perfectly tolerable.

Kan0nF0dder

Except you're wrong, and when Uncharted 3 drops and recieves more triple-A reviews across the board, you'll have to accept the franchise as more than a 'flash in the pan'. Games don't have to be unique to be fantastic or go down in gaming history.Kan0nF0dder

[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]Uncharted is a great series, no doubt, but it's nothing more than a child of Tomb Raider, Gears of War and Indiana Jones clobbered together for a cinematic experience that paces pretty well. In short, it has a little bit of everything, but nothing that truly revolutionizes the gaming industry. Greatest Action Adventure series ever 1. Zelda 2. Metroid 3. God of Warhiphops_savior

But, bu, but Metal Gear Solid :cry:

...and Stealth is a subgenre of what genre?;)

Except you're wrong, and when Uncharted 3 drops and recieves more triple-A reviews across the board, you'll have to accept the franchise as more than a 'flash in the pan'. Games don't have to be unique to be fantastic or go down in gaming history.Kan0nF0dder

The most overrated maybe. When people make whopping statements like this it rages me so.

The first game was good, not great. Its really only the second game that is acclaimed and I feel it is so overrated. I enjoyed it, but damn is it overrated.

It needs another few entries in the series of similar quality to Uncharted 2 to be called the best action adventure franchise. Uncharted 2 is high up on the best action adventure game list though.

I would say Uncharted 2 is my 3rd favourite of the genre after Orcarina of Time and MGS2.

Franchise? Lol no. 2 games isnt really a franchise.

Game? To me, yes, but Zelda isnt that far off :D.

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

No one hopes that the game they just bought will turn out to be fairly unspectacular. It just happens.

DarkLink77

All those games... started with one.. or 2 games that people really liked... then the developers continued to make games that were good and lived up to the first. They all start with just a few games.

As I recall... metroid other M SUCKS. But people still say metroid is good because its a good franchise... and if you don't think nostalgia plays a role, I'm inclined to tell you you are wrong, but yes I know nostalgia isn't everything. Why won't people go back and play some of the greatest games from this generation??? They go back and play the best stuff from older generations.. .why not this one. Nostalgia.. plain and simple.

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]Exactly dude, reread what I wrote...note the phrases 'think not', 'to some extent' and 'tolerable'. Also my acceptance of mario and zelda being well remembered and replayed, just 2D more than 3D, particularly in the case of the more modern games on the Wii. And in future, don't edit my words down to skew my opinion.Lucianu

You're crazy if you think i'm gonna re-read that wall of text, yet again.

My sum up is still as valid as it was before, since it's summarises your wall of text. You can add words that were irrelevant in that particular context, as much as you want. I don't know why it is so hard to comprehend what the intent of a summarization is.

Either way, i'm done, feel free to quote me and respond, like i know you are..

LOL an incorrect summary is an incorrect summary. It's easy to make one if you don't even read what people post properly.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"] Except you're wrong, and when Uncharted 3 drops and recieves more triple-A reviews across the board, you'll have to accept the franchise as more than a 'flash in the pan'. Games don't have to be unique to be fantastic or go down in gaming history.Infinite_Access

All those games... started with one.. or 2 games that people really liked... then the developers continued to make games that were good and lived up to the first. They all start with just a few games.

As I recall... metroid other M SUCKS. But people still say metroid is good because its a good franchise... and if you don't think nostalgia plays a role, I'm inclined to tell you you are wrong, but yes I know nostalgia isn't everything. Why won't people go back and play some of the greatest games from this generation??? They go back and play the best stuff from older generations.. .why not this one. Nostalgia.. plain and simple.

[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I won'y have to accept anything, actually, especially just because video game critics say so. Video game "journalism" is a joke. I couldn't care less what they think. I can pretty much guarantee that ten years from whenever they stop making Uncharted games, no one will care about the franchise. People will still care about Quake 3, Super Metroid, Ocarina of Time, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, etc, etc, etc. Those are timeless games. Uncharted is a flash in the pan. DarkLink77

All those games... started with one.. or 2 games that people really liked... then the developers continued to make games that were good and lived up to the first. They all start with just a few games.

As I recall... metroid other M SUCKS. But people still say metroid is good because its a good franchise... and if you don't think nostalgia plays a role, I'm inclined to tell you you are wrong, but yes I know nostalgia isn't everything. Why won't people go back and play some of the greatest games from this generation??? They go back and play the best stuff from older generations.. .why not this one. Nostalgia.. plain and simple.

Well... I would say you can't see into the future and don't know what people will be playing in 15/20 years... but thats no fun is it? I'm pretty sure there will be games added to your list of nostalgic experiences.

Uncharted is shooter first, adventure/platformer second. And no, Zelda, Metroid and Castlevania all have something to say about the claim UC is the "best" the action-adventure genre has to offer. [QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]Except you're wrong, and when Uncharted 3 drops and recieves more triple-A reviews across the board, you'll have to accept the franchise as more than a 'flash in the pan'. Games don't have to be unique to be fantastic or go down in gaming history.foxhound_fox

As a franchise not so much, but Uncharted 2 was definitely one of the best A/A games I've played.FIipMode

It will inevitably become the absolute best adventure game on the market.

Even if its still bombarded by hateful comments, Naughty God never disappoints. Uncharted 3 will be again GOTY in dozens of tons of sites and score the same if not better than UC2.

Uncharted will earn and don its place as the pantheon of both Action and Adventure genres. Quote me and come at me breh.